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Gingrich: Dems Sex Scandals Are Worse  
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2065 times:

Gingrich: Dems' Sex Scandals Are Worse
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Wednesday, October 4, 2006

(10-04) 19:07 PDT Greenville, S.C. (AP) --

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Wednesday that Democratic sex scandals have been far worse than the suggestive Internet messages sent to teenage congressional pages by former Rep. Mark Foley.

Gingrich said Democrats have wanted to punish their offenders less than the GOP.

"What we don't have to do is allow our friends on the left to lecture us on morality," Gingrich said at a party fundraiser in Greenville. "There's a certain stench of hypocrisy."

Foley abruptly resigned Friday after being accused of sending salacious Internet messages to teenage boys who served as pages on Capitol Hill. The FBI and Florida law enforcement officials are investigating.

Gingrich would not say whether House Speaker Dennis Hastert should step down in the wake of the scandal. He also declined to discuss reports that Hastert may have known about Foley's behavior for more than three years.

"I don't know what he knew," Gingrich said.

 bigmouth  Open mouth and insert foot, recently everytime he speaks he is making less and less sense. Morality is a term Gingrich might not be aware of. Wasn't he the one that served divorce papers on his wife while she was in the hospital, so that he could marry an aide.

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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4128 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2060 times:

I think that a member of the so called "Party of Morals" in America ought to keep his trap shut too, lest he sound like a hypocrite as well. This stupid crybaby business serves nobody.

Is this the latest GOP talking point? Spin it towards the Dems? I think so far, the Dems have been good about keeping the outcry to a minimum so far.



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2051 times:

How dumb is fighting about which sex scandal is worse? Just more partisan bullshit.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2050 times:

Yeah, this Foley cat was trying to get into teenage boy's pants. I can see how things much be must worse than that. Sick.

-Copa


User currently offlineFlyVirgin744 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1313 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2030 times:

Lovely, so now politicians are fighting over who has worse sex scandals. All the while the country is still being run like crap.


Sometimes I go about in pity for myself and all the while a great wind carries me across the sky.
User currently offlineHalcyon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

Quoting FlyVirgin744 (Reply 4):
Lovely, so now politicians are fighting over who has worse sex scandals.

Yeah, excellent state of things. Sheesh. The worst thing is that it's not surprising anymore. Most politicians from every side suck, and that's about how to sum it up, whether you're a Democrat or Republican. Personally, I don't see that as changing.

Lucas


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21796 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 2):
How dumb is fighting about which sex scandal is worse?

Pretty f*cking dumb. Meanwhile, we have a budget crisis.  Yeah sure

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

I'll take a guy in the white house spooging over another consenting adult versus a 'potential' child molestor ANY fucking day.

PS. Who the fuck asked Newt (the adultering pig) GinGrinch (who stole congress)?


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 7):

2nd that.

Whats worse - fuck around with an intern and lie about it under oath or Foley's repulsive shenanigans. And - on top of that - cover it up.

Hastert knew about this. The radical Republican right regime we have in charge has got to go. Period. The ones in charge are a bunch of lying, theiving, child-molesting invertibrates.

[Edited 2006-10-05 16:41:57]

User currently offlineA332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 8):
The ones in charge are a bunch of lying, theiving, child-molesting invertibrates.

 checkmark  Best description I've heard in some time!

America has far more pressing issues to resolve... it's good to see that the nation's priorities continue to take a backseat to partisan BS.



Bad spellers of the world... UNTIE!
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1914 times:

Note to Gingrich:

The only thing worse than some closeted Republican pedo is some fat disgusting Republican perv who serves divorce papers on his terminal cancer afflicted wife in her hospital room so he can marry the aide he was cheating on said wife with.

Now who could that perv be?

All I can say is STFU Newton.


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11761 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

I, too, have been trying to figure this one out:

It is worse for two consenting heterosexual adults to have relations than sending explicit e-mails to minors of the same gender?

Add to that the wanting to torture and leaving people living in human waste and dead bodies for weeks..... yes, those are all family values.....

GO CANUCKS!!



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13169 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Anytime it involves minors, it is worse, but any sex scandal is bad. I don't want to hear about sex scandals, that is something to be investigated and the wrongdoers punished.
Problem is that any scandal distracts from real news we need to know. 13 USA soldiers have been killed in Iraq in the last 3 days in insurgent attacks. We have a Senate and Congress that has all but a few members bought out by the rich and big business.


User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

I am of the opinion that we Republicans who stand for personal and public morality need to police our own severely and not compare ourselves to the Democrats, the party of no morality and no shame and everything goes culture.

True, the Democratic congressman form Provincetown, RI in 1983 did not resign after his sex scandal and his voters in his overwhelmingly gay district did not care and re-elected him many times until he retired in the 1990's.

However, Republicans should realize that championing "family values" has its downside, too. That is, when caught with your pants down, it is a bigger story than when democrats do it because the hypocrisy charge will be swift, lethal and entirely appropriate.

Thus, there is a clear reason why Dems and Repubs get treated differently on sexual matters. That's life. Republicans like Gingrich, Hastert, et. al need to deal with it.

BTW, the Christian conservatives I know in rural Texas are outraged and disappointed like you wouldn't believe. They WILL be staying home this November and with the Republicans doing poorly among other voters, this is an extremely bad sign and an electoral spanking is on the way.

Pelosi, speaker
Reed, majority leader.
Unhappy Bush, who is gonna be impeached, tarred and feathered.
Rejoice A.netters. One month and all your dreams will come true.



Tort reform now. Throw lawyers in jail later.
User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

This is something else! Link to today's New York sLimes article about Foley.

You may choose to use http://www.bugmenot.com

some excerpts. . .

His colleagues in Washington liked him — if they had to tolerate him trampling them on his way to the nearest camera. He was known for his sense of humor and his imitations of politicians — including Bill Clinton’s famous “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” line.

When he became a leading critic of Mr. Clinton’s during impeachment,
and the president’s supporters were poking around in the private lives of Republicans, several people said they recalled hearing that Mr. Foley told people he was engaged.





Oh the irony! I know someone is going to shoot back and say well, at least Foley resigned like Clinton should have


Well, one difference is two consenting adults of age.

[Edited 2006-10-05 17:55:18]

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
Pelosi, speaker

Oh, big deal.

You're just trading in a guy who looks and sounds like a hippo (Hastert) for a woman who looks and sounds like a screeching owl.

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
True, the Democratic congressman form Provincetown, RI in 1983 did not resign after his sex scandal and his voters in his overwhelmingly gay district did not care and re-elected him many times until he retired in the 1990's.

Uhh, that's Provincetown, MA.

And back in 1983, P-town's gay vote was still marginal (and actually still is, because many gay residents are only summer residents). Studds just did a damn good job of representing the fishing industry, his Portuguese-American constituents and his gay constituents that he was loved across the board. Also, when he won his district, he wrested it from a Republican (of course a 1972 Republican barely resembled the fire and brimstone bigots one sees today).

And while Studd's relationship was sleazy and gross, it occurred in 1973 with a fully consenting 17 year old, and was statutorily legal at the time. What's more, when the Democratic controlled House discovered Studds' 10 year old relationship, he was immediately censured.

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
Thus, there is a clear reason why Dems and Repubs get treated differently on sexual matters.

Yes. Because we don't go around preaching what you should do in the privacy of your bedroom. One wonders why a party (the GOP) that champions the freedom of Americans from governmental intrusion into their wallets would be so hypocritical when it comes to intrusion into their personal lives. Reverse that for the Dems, of course.

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
BTW, the Christian conservatives I know in rural Texas are outraged and disappointed like you wouldn't believe.

What a pity. I guess the trifecta of bigotry, Christo-fascism, and "family values" can just go that far.

But don't worry, ye who loves his rural, Christian, finger-wagging friends so much. I doubt very much if Congress will shift hands to the Dems. Sleep easy, for the corrupt, the hypocritical and the incompetent will continue to rule.


User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 8):
invertibrates.

Hey steady, there are some really nice invertebrates, like trilobites and the nautilus.


User currently offlineB777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
I am of the opinion that we Republicans who stand for personal and public morality need to police our own severely and not compare ourselves to the Democrats, the party of no morality and no shame and everything goes culture.

 rotfl 

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
Unhappy Bush, who is gonna be impeached, tarred and feathered.

Damn straight...

Don't look now Tex, the liberals are comin' for ya!


User currently offlineSantosdumont From Brazil, joined Dec 2003, 1201 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1835 times:

They say first impressions are the strongest....

Sometime around 1983, I remember seeing Gingrich as a then young loudmouth Representative from Georgia (this was before he took on his roly-poly, "omniscient elder statesman persona") who was giving a hystrionic speech to the House floor ripping into the Democrats for being soft on communism.

Unbeknownst to the hot-headed Representative, then Speaker Tip O'Neill ordered the C-Span cameras to pan the audience. What we saw was an empty room, except for a couple of custodians sweeping up.

That was my introduction to the so-called Special Order speeches, where any lawmaker can speak to any topic after the House concludes its business.

Poor Newtie had such a hissy fit that he nearly pissed his pants.



"Pursuit Of Truth No Matter Where It Lies" -- Metallica
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 17):
Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
I am of the opinion that we Republicans who stand for personal and public morality need to police our own severely and not compare ourselves to the Democrats, the party of no morality and no shame and everything goes culture.

ROFL!!!! How did I miss that gem?

That's just too much. I guess Republican men think that Republican chicks don't give head.

That's because the Democrats - those of no morality and no shame and everything goes culture - are the ones they're going down on.

Wowza. I wonder what Texdravid's rural, Christian, morally-upstanding folks would have done if he'd boinked one of their lily-white daughters, let alone laid eyes on their blossoming peaches and cream womanhood? Oh, wait. They of morality and shame and nothing goes culture don't engage in that sort of pre-marital miscagenation. And they sure know how to police that sort of thing severely. Cuz whats a better way to spend a Sunday afternoon after a morning of Church than a good ol' fashioned lynchin'?


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Quoting AirCop (Thread starter):

Wasn't Newtie busted once for an extra-marital affair? I can't remember.

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
I am of the opinion that we Republicans who stand for personal and public morality need to police our own severely and not compare ourselves to the Democrats, the party of no morality and no shame and everything goes culture.



Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
However, Republicans should realize that championing "family values" has its downside, too. That is, when caught with your pants down, it is a bigger story than when democrats do it because the hypocrisy charge will be swift, lethal and entirely appropriate.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

You stuck-up, arrogant %^*)#! You Republicans-the ones of Watergate, Iran-Contra, of the Iraq war; of approving of torture and holding people without charge or counsel. And now, the party of a 52-year old Congressmen trying to get in the pants of teenage boys, while championing laws to protect the same, and having your leadership cover it up?

Morally superior to WHO? Ants? Cockroaches? Moles? Who? You certainly aren't superior to most people who call themselves liberal-those mainstream kind, like myself, not the loonies you try to label as mainstreem. Most "liberals" as correctly defined, have strong moral and family values, who try to raise their children right, who obey the law, who love their country just as much, if not more, in reality than you do. You try to claim moral superiority?

 rotfl 

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 13):
Thus, there is a clear reason why Dems and Repubs get treated differently on sexual matters.

Sure, that's why the Republicans dragged Bill Clinton through impeachment over oral sex. Uh huh.

You have lost what little credibility you ever had on here, Tex. Your smug arrogance shows why the GOP is in such trouble now. You claim moral superiority, while trying to defend those who tried to cover up your moral inferiority as a party.

Thanks for the laugh though. Sadly, it's nothing to laugh about, when you stop and think about it.

And I didn't think my contempt for you could get any lower.

(Waiting now for the usual reply about me being a bitter airline employee, and a the like).


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1799 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 19):
That's just too much. I guess Republican men think that Republican chicks don't give head.

They do-but only to us Democrats, because the Republicans and their "family values" don't approve of such pleasure.  Big grin


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

"At least Tom didn't make some lovin' to no macaca.

Cuz, thats 'gainst the law in Virginia."

Signed

George Allenbergsteinowitz.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1788 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 7):
I'll take a guy in the white house spooging over another consenting adult versus a 'potential' child molestor ANY fucking day.

Yea it's not like he would kill him if he threatened to expose the affair like Chandra Levy or anything.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 23):
Yea it's not like he would kill him if he threatened to expose the affair like Chandra Levy or anything.

What the fuck are you talking about? Last time I heard Condit was cleared. He's still a scumbag for effing her, but he didn't kill her.


25 Jaysit : Gary Condit was in the White House? You need to contact the FBI and the DC Police pronto. Clearly, you have some evidence against Condit that no one
26 Post contains images Confuscius : "Last time I heard Condit was cleared." I thought it was Stonecipher that had an affair...not Condit!
27 NIKV69 : Sure he was cleared but so was OJ. There was no evidence but I think Condit had her taken for a ride. Wish I did, he covered up his tracks very well.
28 TedTAce : No. Trust me there is no way he got away with killing her without so much as a trial if he wasn't completely innocent of KILLING her.
29 Confuscius : Wish I did, he covered up his tracks very well. Or most likely paid some muscle to do it, you do remember there are professionals out there that kill
30 Jaysit : LOL. That's not an apt comparison. OJ was tried, and the evidence was all there. We all know why OJ didn't get criminally convicted. But he got slamm
31 NIKV69 : How you figure? Believe it or not you can still kill someone and never see the inside of a cop car not to mention a court room. Haha, good one. I was
32 Bushpilot : Way to go Newt, thanks for reminding us that despite having an inept President, and a scandalous legislature, that the country is still better off wi
33 TedTAce : I take it you know this from exeperience?
34 Post contains images Dougloid : Why, yes. Far be it from us to criticize one who dumped his wife for a floozy when the wife was sick in the hospital with cancer.... the man's a douc
35 Texdravid : Notice how I said the Christian conservatives I know, not loves or is friends with. But, when have you been objective, anyway? Like never. On this we
36 Jaysit : Uh, huh. I bet you were the Lothario of small town Texas Christiana! Not one, but many small town white christian females. Oooh, baby, you smoooooooo
37 Post contains images Falcon84 : Your version of "liberal" is along the Rush Limbaugh line, chum. You're not talking mainstream people when you mention liberal. The image you try to
38 Post contains images Jaysit : You got that, Falcon? Stop being jealous of Texdravid for dating "many small town white christian females."
39 Post contains images Falcon84 : Jealous? He dates 'em-I married one.
40 Srbmod : Newt and his cohorts ought to watch out, as they may see Larry Flynt put out another Flynt Report.
41 Texdravid : You woudn't know a straight date if it hit you on the head. Really, your kind giving me lectures on straight dating is like me giving you lectures on
42 Falcon84 : Gosh, but that one was weak, Tex! That's the best you can do. I had more faith in you than that. I'm so disappointed! And I wasn't looking at a mirro
43 MUWarriors : Wow. I mean, really. Wow. I don't know whether to laugh at your ignorance, or be horrified by it. I lean way left, I don't think I live an immoral li
44 Texdravid : Yeah, because I don't come across as a junkyard dog, like you, foaming at the mouth. Please, you are an unhinged liberal who thinks he is some fair-m
45 Texdravid : Jaysit, Falcon, et. al, If you read carefully, my letter was to say how Republicans are always going to be tarred on sexual matters because of the hyp
46 Post contains links Texdravid : Maybe if this board wasn't full of unhinged types like Falcon, then maybe someone would understand that I think this Foley nonsense is killing the GOP
47 Post contains links MUWarriors : Who are you to determine what "mirrors America?" It's an honest question that I have. You live in the heart of Texas, how do you know what someone li
48 Baroque : Interesting how moral values are assumed to reside only with Homo sapiens. Most beasties that live in groups have very firm systems of how to relate
49 Columba : This must be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read.
50 Texdravid : Yeah, just like your left leaning friends characterize EACH AND EVERY republican like he is a stooped over neaderthal abusing minorities and gays, st
51 Falcon84 : That's more like it, Tex! Whew, I thought you had lost it for a while. Well, you have, actually, but that's more the response I was expecting. Not th
52 Post contains links Baroque : Assuming this is the problem, does this help. http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomfr...F52880%253Bjsessionid%253Daaa5LVF0 Marc Hauser interviewd by Gre
53 Post contains images PA110 : No not each and every republican... just the ones who manage to buy or steal their way into elected office.
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