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Drudge Report: Foley Im's Was Prank Gone Awry  
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 38
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

http://www.drudgereport.com/page.htm

CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.


First, we find out the kid was 18 when he had this conversation. Now, we find out that it was a prank. Of course, Foley still should be skewered for being a total perv, but shouldn't this say something else about America's drive-by (to borrow a term from Rush Limbaugh) media.


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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8114 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

Sick sick sick. Jcs, you should be ashamed of yourself. Why would you attempt to condone any of it. Sick.


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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

You seriously believe that all the components of this scandal simply stem from a 'prank'? Josh, you're even dumber than i thought!


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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

What about the cellphone text messages? Were THOSE a prank?

User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2118 times:

haha, this is still laughable, even though i've read it up on drudge-the GANG LEADER of drive-by media- and a few thoughts cross my mind:

why would foley resign if it were a lie? it's EASILY proven false with the electronic record.

even if this occured before and after his 18th bday, that doesnt make foley any less creepy.

this still doesn't explain away the fact of multiple former pages corroborating the story.

the kids name was leaked. the chat session makes him look gay. he recruits a friend to say IT WAS ALL A PRANK HAHA!!!! makes no sense at all.


i have many other points galore, but this latest proclamation by drudge is simply feckless. AT BEST.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 1):
Sick sick sick. Jcs, you should be ashamed of yourself. Why would you attempt to condone any of it. Sick.

I find it funny that many of those who say that Foley should be hung out to dry for sending dirty text messages and saying that it is inexcusable for such a highly placed politician to be messing around with a page are the same ones who said that Clinton did nothing wrong with the intern, that blowjobs are not sex (and text messages are)...

The only thing that Foley did that Clinton did not do a lot more was being gay.

Could it be that there a re a bunch of homophobic hypocrits on this forum, and that they are NOT Republicans?  laughing  laughing  laughing 


User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

Congressional people should have better things on there mind than "pranking young boys". Clearly a croc of crap and attempt at damage control.

This is the kind of thing that junior high kids do, not old men.



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User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
The only thing that Foley did that Clinton did not do a lot more was being gay.

and a pedophile. the other pages that are coming forward are not necessarily the 18 year olds that would make for such and easy comparison to the clinton-lewinsky 'scandal'


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8114 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

Sick sick sick. Jcs, you should be ashamed of yourself. Why would you attempt to condone any of it. Sick.


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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3863 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

More likely the GOP's No Child Left Behind...Program


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User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2058 times:


" .. I'm so sorry to have embarrased my district and my family .. "










" .. Oh wait, did I tell you that I am gay? .. "










" .. Oh yeah, did I meantion I have failed in my alcoholism recovery? .. "










" .. Hey! Did you know I was molested as a teen ???? .. "










" .. Some people just don't get my quirky sense of humor .. "






Oh please.


How many more people are going to completely discredit themselves by trying to spin this story in a new direction? It was funny for about one minute, and now it's just scary and sad that these people have any authority over the rest of us.



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User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4278 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
I find it funny that many of those who say that Foley should be hung out to dry for sending dirty text messages and saying that it is inexcusable for such a highly placed politician to be messing around with a page are the same ones who said that Clinton did nothing wrong with the intern, that blowjobs are not sex (and text messages are)...

The only thing that Foley did that Clinton did not do a lot more was being gay.

Could it be that there a re a bunch of homophobic hypocrits on this forum, and that they are NOT Republicans?

Charles, do you really not see the difference? Look, I do not condone Clinton's extramarital affair, nor do most people. The difference is his fling was not with someone who is underage. See, there is a law that says Foley cannot get his rocks off with underage people. That's what the difference is.

And you still cannot spell hypocrite correctly.

And your statement of "homophobic hypocrits" is pretty much offbase. Thanks for playing, though.

Texan



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User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

Oh, and I forgot about this predictable tactic - blame it on Clinton!

" .. The people who want to see this thing blow up are ABC News and a lot of Democratic operatives, people funded by George Soros," Hastert told the Chicago Tribune ... "Operatives associated with Clinton knew about the allegations and may have been behind the disclosure of the e-mails so close to the November congressional elections," Hastert added, offering no evidence. .. "



Then, last night, Hastert's campaign manager made a recording which was phoned to constituents in his own district. The recording said:

" .. Hi. I’m sorry to bother you at home this evening – but I felt that I needed to call to set the record straight about my friend and my congressman Denny Hastert. Last night, a Washington based Democratic front group called American Family Voices phoned residents in our communities to spread falsehoods about our congressman Denny Hastert. Unfortunately, these untrue partisan attacks are not uncommon in Washington, but they are not welcome in the 14th District. This group is actually a liberal extremist group whose leader is a former Clinton [unintelligible] operative – [garbled] Pelosi as Speaker, and Hilary Clinton as President, and they will resort to anything to accomplish it. We know that Denny Hastert is a public servant who has spent his life working for families – whether as a teacher, coach, or congressman. Join me in rejecting these untrue facts in [unintelligibile] campaigning. Thank you for your time and have a good evening. My call to you is paid for by the Hastert for Congress Committee .. "


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/hastert_robo_call.mp3



Weak.




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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 1):



Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 2):

Of course Jcs wants desperately to believe it-as did Texdravid before him. To believe that a REPUBLICAN was capable of this (even though they were capable of Watergate, Iran-Contra, starting a stupid war, condoning torture, etc, not withstanding), just tears apart the far right-wing world on which they stand, that says Republicans can do no wrong, are morally superior, and have a moral right to run the country.

If either of them for a second believes any of the truth here, they can't handle it, and they're like the robot in "Lost In Space" when, faced with something he doesn't graps, says "that does not compute!"

They're so brainwashed by now, they simply can't believe it.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
I find it funny that many of those who say that Foley should be hung out to dry for sending dirty text messages and saying that it is inexcusable for such a highly placed politician to be messing around with a page are the same ones who said that Clinton did nothing wrong with the intern, that blowjobs are not sex (and text messages are)...

Never said it wasn't wrong, Charles. It was. Most people believe that. What most people with a shred of common sense DO believe, Charles, is it wasn't worth impeachment.

There's a difference. Get them straight.

And do you buy the nonsense Jcs wrote?


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

Quoting Texan (Reply 11):
The difference is his fling was not with someone who is underage.

I have not been following the case (I have better things to do), but is there proof that the page was underage, or is it possible he was 18?

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
Never said it wasn't wrong, Charles. It was. Most people believe that. What most people with a shred of common sense DO believe, Charles, is it wasn't worth impeachment.

Assuming the page was 16, that is certainly a crime and worthy of prosecution. But if he was 18, then no crime was committed, right?

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 13):
And do you buy the nonsense Jcs wrote?

About it being a prank? Not really (although I have not followed the case close enough to know either way). About the page being 18? That is something I've been hearing on the news for the past day, so it's quite likely.


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
I find it funny that many of those who say that Foley should be hung out to dry for sending dirty text messages and saying that it is inexcusable for such a highly placed politician to be messing around with a page are the same ones who said that Clinton did nothing wrong with the intern, that blowjobs are not sex

The only person who said that a blowjob wasn't sex was that idiot, Clinton himself.

Plus, Ms Lewinsky was 22 years old when she first laid her lips on the Presidential pipe. And apparently she was quite eager to do so.

If you can't tell the difference between a consenting 22 year old adult eager to blow the President, and a 16 year old who was apparently uncomfortable - at a minimum - with sexual propositions, then God help your own kids.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
Could it be that there a re a bunch of homophobic hypocrits on this forum, and that they are NOT Republicans?

No. It only takes real homophobic hypocrites like you to believe that being gay is tantamount to propositioning minors for sex. The rest of us find a 52 year old man propositioning a 16 year old of any gender just plain creepy.

Quoting Jcs17 (Thread starter):
First, we find out the kid was 18 when he had this conversation. Now, we find out that it was a prank. Of course, Foley still should be skewered for being a total perv, but shouldn't this say something else about America's drive-by (to borrow a term from Rush Limbaugh) media.

LOL. Oh, yes. Anne Richards did it. From the grave.

Btw, has Drudge heard of this? Apparently, the ex-page and his parents don't think its a prank.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/05/page.statement/index.html

Or this?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/three_more_form.html


User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

I take the Drudge report with a grain of salt at best. Drudge is really a biased mighty to the righty institution. My big question then? If Foley was "punked" by these nefarious pages then, why did he resign and not fight for his reputation and innocence?

Reminds me of Michael Jackson proclaiming innocence back in the early 90's at the first allegations of his diddling the male kiddies. Jacko instead of being a man and fighting for his innocence paid off big bucks to his accusers. Seems a little strange doesn't it?



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):
Assuming the page was 16, that is certainly a crime and worthy of prosecution. But if he was 18, then no crime was committed, right?

Actually, even if the page was 16, Foley could get away on a legal technicality if the DC Statute applies. See Reply 161 http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1386538/.

Discuss.

Well, you folks have been entertaining enough, but I'm sick in bed with the flu, and its goodnight to all.


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4125 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 14):
I have not been following the case (I have better things to do), but is there proof that the page was underage, or is it possible he was 18?

There is however more than 1 page involved in all of this. So maybe there is a lot more left that needs to be made public.

Seriously, can the hard-right backpedal any harder?



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1914 times:

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 18):
Seriously, can the hard-right backpedal any harder?

I think the left is backpedelling just as hard.

Politicians and diapers should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.


User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 19):
I think the left is backpedelling just as hard.

No, they're not.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 19):
Politicians and diapers should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.

Sorry Charles. Now that I've heard Robin Williams say that line, it's just not funny anymore. He has a way of doing that.  Sad



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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

First of all nothing changes the fact that Foley is a perv and a sicko in my book. But if the page was 18, then what's wrong with consentual virtual sex between persons of legal age?

User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8153 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

Read the conversations and be your own judge...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2006/10/05/AR2006100500008_pf.html



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User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 21):
But if the page was 18, then what's wrong with consensual virtual sex between persons of legal age?

When the page reports to the congressman, we'll never know for sure if it was truly consensual, or if he felt obligated because Foley was 'the boss.' He can say it was consensual now, and change his mind later - and the court will allow him to do so.

If there is an actual, or even implied reporting relationship between people in an organization, it exposes that organization to high risk of a sexual harassment claim. The page could have been 30, for that matter. The fact that he was in a role that reported to the congressman.

The page may never file a sexual harassment claim. Or he could have 2nd thoughts 5 years from now, and file it then. At that point, if the Congress is not on record has having completely remedied the situation then they are still liable for damages.



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

Quoting Diamond (Reply 23):
When the page reports to the congressman, we'll never know for sure if it was truly consensual, or if he felt obligated because Foley was 'the boss.'

So can we say the same about Clinton and Monica?


25 Post contains images Superfly :
26 Diamond : Yeah, probably. The prez is responsible for everything in that branch of goverment. So everyone reports to him either directly or indirectly. So now,
27 Lucky42 : No it's no childs behind will be left
28 Post contains images Superfly : ...and Monica certainly got her taste of that branch of government.
29 N1120A : Foley has been doing this with multiple pages, underage pages, for years. A non-credible source like Drudge isn't going to change that.
30 Searpqx : Sorry Charles, it doesn't matter what Bill, Gary, or any other politician has ever done, the Repubs are in a tailspin over this. Additional pages hav
31 Cfalk : Sorry to repeat myself, but what exactly is the crime? AFAIK, he only solicited sex from one page, and he waited until after the page had turned 18 t
32 B777-700 : The fact that you can't recognize this for what it is says a lot about you.
33 Pope : And there we go. The hypocrisy is clear. Page who works for 1 of 435 members of Congress is labeled as "reporting" to him and therefore unable to for
34 Pope : I think you should take a look at what other members of the media are saying about Drudge's credibility. I believe that there is a new book coming ou
35 Santosdumont : Check the positioning of this supposed bombshell story on the Drudge Report page: it's on the right-hand column in an area which could be safely descr
36 Travelin man : Um. No. Per the article linked above: Foley resigned last week after Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a left-leaning watchdog gr
37 Post contains images B777-700 : Easy! Because Republicans aren't responsible for anything bad!
38 Searpqx : Right now he hasn't been formally accused of one, its under investigation, just as Jefferson still is under investigation and has not been charged. I
39 Pope : And likewise, the left said it wasn't about perjury but it was about sex between consenting adults.
40 VSLover : back to the original post though, funny how mister drive by himself, drudge, may had to retract as his site clearly shows that the prank claim probabl
41 B777-700 : Just wanted to clear a few things up... This isn't Clintons fault. This isn't the Democrats fault. This isn't the page's fault. This wasn't a prank.
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