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User currently offlineChrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1068 posts, RR: 8
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

With Melbourne experiencing temperatures of over 36c(97f) yesterday in the middle of October, water storage for the city is at 45.1% and rapidly declining. Much of the state and Australia is already in the worst drought ever recorded, climate change or just a normal cycle? In any case the situation is dire, everyone is affected. Thoughts?

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...cord/2006/10/12/1160246228661.html

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...want/2006/10/12/1160246263493.html

"Such a long period with no decent rain is unprecedented for Melbourne," said senior climatologist Andrew Watkins from the bureau's National Climate Centre. "The previous record was six years in a row of below average rainfall, from 1979 to 1984. Ten years is really entering unfamiliar territory."

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...lems/2006/10/12/1160246263503.html

"FARM production could fall into recession and there are warnings that suicide among farmers could increase as the country faces what might be the worst drought on record."

"Greens spokeswoman Christine Milne said the Government had not recognised climate change as a significant risk when it brought down this year's budget.

"It just demonstrates that the Government still doesn't understand that more intense droughts and forces are a result of climate change," she said.

"They are only going to get worse if the Government does not address the climate change problem."


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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5524 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

Quoting Chrisrad (Thread starter):
In any case the situation is dire, everyone is affected.

Indeed it is but it doesn't help when both the state and the federal governments take a long time to realise what is really happening particular people in rural areas. IMO they have taken a long time to respond to this situation.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...story/0,20867,20572341-601,00.html
This article shows the failure of the state governments on the water shortages but the Federal government did release a relief package today to help the farmer is worst affected areas.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...story/0,20867,20573395-601,00.html

Quoting Chrisrad (Thread starter):
With Melbourne experiencing temperatures of over 36c(97f)

This very unseasonal weather for east coast Australia in particular Melbourne. Summer is already HERE. 2 months early
Lets hope there is some decent rainfall and very soon

[Edited 2006-10-13 04:58:13]

User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

I found it humorous that up in Queensland the resevoirs to catch and hold rain water were on the backside of the Dividing Range thus putting them into the dry section. Who planned that one?

It was kind of funny to hear everyone complaining about thee drought in Brisbane and Sydney while all it did the entire time I was there was rain, just on the wrong side of the mountains.



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User currently offlineChrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1068 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2127 times:

In Victoria regardless of location, the lack of rainfall in all areas does not fill up our dams, our main source of water for the city.




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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

We're flooding . . . what say we make an even trade . . .

Southcentral Alaska Flooding (by ANCFlyer Oct 12 2006 in Non Aviation)


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

Government is being reactive rather the proactive and even then the reaction is taking along time to happen. We hear about how were running out of water every day, yet no one seems willing to commit to anything.

User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5524 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
We're flooding . . . what say we make an even trade . . .

I'll be happy to do it if you take the raging bushfires and 45C plus summers with you. its 40C in parts of Sydney at the moment

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5):
We hear about how were running out of water every day, yet no one seems willing to commit to anything.

So true.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2103 times:

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 6):
its 40C in parts of Sydney at the moment

I got out just in time it seems. It was a wee bit chilly just a month ago.



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3938 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

Its currently sunny and about 23C (75F) here in Brizzie, pretty nice

Thomas



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User currently offlineJoge From Finland, joined Feb 2000, 1444 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

The water storages in Queensland at the moment are about 27% of what they should be. Level 3 water restrictions apply.

-Joge



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User currently offlineJeepBoy From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

It's 37C here in Sydney CBD at the moment and we are expecting the same tomorrow.

Record temps and crazy weather, it's happening everywhere.

I feel sorry for our drought affected farmers. Our wheat crop is stuffed and it looks like we are actually going to have to import wheat for the first time in a very long time.

js



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

I was in SYD last month and it was over 30deg for 3 days straight... in September!!! Went to the beach and people were swimming even!
Back there next week again... hopefully not too hot... 30deg is nice 40deg is not

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User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

I know i'm only from a little tiny place of no importance but it hasn't rain for more than an hour here in what seems like weeks. Though temps are down to their normal of around 2/3 oC

Hope you guys get some rainfall soon

Regards
Colin  Smile


User currently offlineBa757gla From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

has Australia only entered spring ?

User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 13):
has Australia only entered spring

Yes. If it stays this way, it's going to be a very hot summer.

Quoting Joge (Reply 9):
The water storages in Queensland at the moment are about 27% of what they should be. Level 3 water restrictions apply.

A town about 70km north of here (Canberra) has actually run out of water and is trying to source it from Sydney.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2386 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

Hmm it's like its the worst drought ever every time I read about an Australian drought. I was there during the (european) summer 2005, and while I was there, it started raining but everyone was so happy about it because it was the first rain for months

User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5524 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 14):
A town about 70km north of here (Canberra) has actually run out of water and is trying to source it from Sydney.

Do you mean Goulburn???


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8442 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 16):
Do you mean Goulburn???

Yes

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 15):
it started raining but everyone was so happy about it because it was the first rain for months

And it was probably in the city, not out in the catchment area where it is needed.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2386 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 17):
And it was probably in the city, not out in the catchment area where it is needed.

Yes it was


User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1745 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2021 times:
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If only the government decided to build a new dam for NSW 20yrs or even 10yrs ago when it was the worst drought ever in 96/97 for NSW we might not be shit deep in tough water restrictions and our major dam under 40% ...They um and argh every week over building new dams for the states but so far nothing and by the time they make up their mine they"ll have no water to mix the cement!

They have suggested recyling water from Sewerage,Build DeSalination plant,Using ships running on Solar from Tasmania to ship water across the tasman and drilling into the Warragamba Dam where they found some extra water but so far nothing has happened.'


Oh well just gives the fuel companies a new reason to Jack the prices up 30%....Blame the drought for higher fuel prices!


User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5524 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 19):
They have suggested recyling water from Sewerage

which the NSW state govt is currently doing in parts of the state

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 19):
Build DeSalination plant,

this very costly and not environmentally friendly and maybe the last option available for the government. Its not only up to the government to find solutions but also the citizens to conserve water E.G - rainwater tanks water saving taps and limiting usage where possible

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 19):
If only the government decided to build a new dam for NSW 20yrs or even 10yrs ago when it was the worst drought ever in 96/97 for NSW

The question is where do we build it?


User currently offlineBNE From Australia, joined Mar 2000, 3183 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

In the news today in Brisbane it mentioned that we were going to go to level 4 restrictions on the 1st November.

Water level is expected to reach 25%.

There was a plan about 20 years ago to build another dam but all the nimbys shot it down. Another attempt by the government this year seems also destined to fail.



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User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1995 times:

Quoting Chrisrad (Thread starter):
climate change or just a normal cycle?

Normal cycle. In West Texas, we had a prolonged drought through the last half of the 90's and first half of the 00's but the rainfall has been back above average now for the past two years. Don't worry, it'll turn around and your reservoirs will fill up again.


User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1745 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1979 times:
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Quoting VHVXB (Reply 20):
The question is where do we build it?

Where their building all those Housing estates across NSW....no point building them when their isnt much water left,We need something put in place ASAP as our politicans are still living in 90's when population was like 3million and in 2006 its almost 7million.


User currently offlineMelpax From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 1600 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 14):
Yes. If it stays this way, it's going to be a very hot summer

It's looking that way. Bushfire season has also had an early start, wouldn't want to be living in the hills this summer. Had to have the air con cranked up driving home yesterday, way too hot for October here in Melbourne.....

[Edited 2006-10-13 15:03:44]


Essendon - Whatever it takes......
25 LTBEWR : One does have to be concerned with the possibility of long term affects upon natural cycles from global warming, including very hot or extended dry co
26 VHVXB : Yes and another hot day again up here. This is not good at all
27 Bill142 : What good is building a new dam now when were not getting the rain to fill it up? All are options. The desal plant has been talked about for the last
28 Gemuser : Where the experts told them to! and where they even have most of the land necessary, legislation in place and an enviromental impact statement done!
29 Springbok747 : Its 19 degrees C (81F) right now in Adelaide..nice weather. We had a bit of rain yesterday, but we have permanent water restrictions in place here...t
30 Post contains links Chrisrad : Another interesting article http://news.independent.co.uk/world/australasia/article1870837.ece Fires and worst drought in 100 years wake Australia up
31 VHVXB : Many of these fire were started by stupid arsonist Not doubt. We should start to do more in relation to water conservation
32 HKGKaiTak : And yet "Climate Change" (what a stupid American euphemism) is still not really recognised by Johnny Howard and his big business mates. It's all busin
33 Elite : The weather is getting worse in many parts of the world. I know in China there has been major droughts up north. The weather is in for a big change...
34 Bill142 : And the smoke dosn't help things either as it deteriorates the atmosphere, yet they insist on controlled burns. If the f'n hippies didn't insist on t
35 Aussie18 : Some are started by some lame ass pyschopaths who get a thrill out of starting a fire and watching it burn out of control and have no remorse if hous
36 Elite : Or sometimes the fires are just caused by clumsy people.
37 VHVXB : life is a bit to harsh IMHO though the state government did introduce laws couple years about this issue.
38 Senliture : There are a few things that I don't understand. As far as I know some coastal cities from other countries use sea water to flush their toilet, but why
39 Bill142 : The political agenda gets in the way. Government isn't willing to fork out to do it, and private industry sees no benefit. The end result is, were al
40 Chrisrad : Summer storms, what are they again? We hardly ever have them anymore Especially with all of the money pouring in with the GST..... how much was the s
41 TSV : Yes people have to be when their Politicians are cowardly, lacklustre, and inept. Whatever happened to cloud "seeding"? Did some bright phd spark pro
42 Aussie18 : I know ive seen plenty over last few years and their predicting some for this year as well,not the best storms to experience.
43 Bill142 : It's a whole lot more effective then a desal plant.
44 Chrisrad : Not in Melbourne, we have so many "dry" cool changes in summer now. The days of a nice thunderstorm in the afternoon hardly happen any more
45 QFA380 : Well, were I live in CFS, our damn is up to around 97% and it's raining as I type.
46 HKGKaiTak : Don't agree with you here - I think 4WDs should be banned and only human-powered vehicles should be able to explore the backcountry, ie bicycles and
47 Bill142 : Tell that to the owners of those 300 homes which were lost here in 2003 during the bush fires because fire trails had grown over and there was only a
48 Joge : I'm just back from Ayers Rock. It was raining two days back and I was told that I was lucky to see that as it happens only few times a year. Despite t
49 VHVXB : Well today we had some rain here in Sydney and a lot more need to end this current drought
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