"JOPLIN, Mo. (AP) -- The father of a 13-year-old who fired a shot inside his school in a bloodless shooting was arrested Thursday and charged with being a felon in possession of a gun, authorities said.
He has two felony convictions on his record: one for burglary in Florida and one for possession of a controlled substance in California, said Marino Vidoli, assistant special agent from the Kansas City office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Police found five rifles, two shotguns and one pistol during their search of White's home Monday, Vidoli said."
Can someone tell me how, with background checks, a convicted felon can own so many guns?
ShakeZulaNJ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1629 times:
There will always to be criminal activity. Not amount of regulation is going to stop that from happening. And as long as the 2nd amendment stands, guns will never be banned. Good luck trying to revoke that.
I, myself, have never held nor even seen a gun in person. I probably never will, and more than likely will never own one. But if I do, then I'm going to be a responsible person about owning and using it.
Charlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1098 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1484 times:
Maybe if we had better "truth in sentencing laws" this mope would have still been behind bars,as far as gun bans go I would only give mine up if the police and military would give them up too..it's only logical right? The gun ban crowd says crime would stop...oh brother
EWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 57 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1471 times:
Always wanted to know where the parents all were when these kids go on shooting sprees.
Why the hell don't parents have more control/knowledge/access/accountability/involvement with their kids lives? Parents should sure as hell take part of the blame for this. Just like parents who let their kids have computers in their rooms and not out in the open so parents can keep an eye on what they do on the internet. If you don't want the involvement in your child's life, should have thought about it more when you were doing the deed to make them.
Banning guns isn't the answer. But making parents more culpable and liable is a good way to start.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12688 posts, RR: 13 Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1368 times:
The parent of this minor was a convicted felon and not allowed to possess any weapons with him or in his home. In this case, it was easy to arrest this particular wayward parent (I mean the guy served serious jail time, so what kind of parent was he in the first place?).
Still, the owner of the gun or the adult occupant (as named owner or named renter) where the guns were sourced from for a crime like this should also be put into jail for allowing their use as an accessory. There have been cases where minors in shooting acts in schools and on the street have broken into or got access to the keys for where their parent(s) stored the guns and ammo. Even where that is done, the parent should go to jail as they are responsible for any gun from their property. In any event, they should also face civil liability and lose their house and any assets for their acts of omission.
Ilikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 21 Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1352 times:
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 20): There have been cases where minors in shooting acts in schools and on the street have broken into or got access to the keys for where their parent(s) stored the guns and ammo. Even where that is done, the parent should go to jail as they are responsible for any gun from their property. In any event, they should also face civil liability and lose their house and any assets for their acts of omission.
I think that is a bit excessive. How is it that the parent should be responsible when the parent has made an effort to lock up the guns and the child has made a deliberate effort to contravine the actions of the parent? That is like saying you should go to jail if your kid steals the spare key to your car, takes the car without you knowing and causes an accident that kills someone else.
Canuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1303 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
No Gun ban is going to solve that problem. The illegal weapons will still be out there. . .
So then, are you suggesting NO action should be taken at all?
Using that logic, why make ANY laws? Why ban drugs? Why ban rape? People are still going to find drugs and people. Do you think it's a GOOD thing that you can do to downtown Anchorage, or anywhere else and pick up a firearm with ease?
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
... yet another BAN THE GUNS thread posted by the ignorant out of ignorance . . .
I find it wholly ironic that you'd make a comment like the one above and then accuse OTHERS of ignorance.
Many people feel QUITE strongly about guns in society. Even though a simple ban won't end the problem, it would AT LEAST be a step in the right direction. While I am well aware this problem won't be solved overnight, even a small and arguably symbollic gesture towards finding a solution is a GOOD thing.
The desire to ban guns is NOT ignorant.
I foolishly expected a bit better from you ANC.
Charlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1098 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 1296 times:
A small and symbolic gesture that would violate the 2nd Amendmant to the Constitution,do that and that gives the ability to change or nullify the others,how about keeping the thugs off the streets,how about not releasing them on a technicality,no time for good behavior or religious conversion,too many of these judges are from the side that doesn't want honest,law abiding citizens to own firearms.
25 Ilikeyyc: BS. You can't compare them. Owning a gun is a constitutionally protected right in this country. Rape and drugs are not. The "ban on drugs" is a perfe
26 Canuckpaxguy: Ok, I can see your point to some extent. So what's the answer? Assuming we can all agree that guns are a problem, what would you suggest happen in or
27 Queso: Incorrect assumption, invalidating the rest of your argument.[Edited 2006-10-16 00:05:04]
28 Canuckpaxguy: It wasn't an argument. It was a question. I was hoping for a real answer. If you honestly believe there is no problem with guns in society, then the
29 Queso: You're missing the point. The problem is not with the guns, it's with the people using them incorrectly.
30 ANCFlyer: Gun Ban action - NO. Put this assmonkey in jail for violating the law - YES. Why? Anyone thinking a ban on guns would have prevented this CONVICTED F
31 Galapagapop: Whether he's a convict or not, the parents that have kids get ahold of weapons and do stuff like this should be arrested anyway. But alas its not hard
32 Canuckpaxguy: I got that Queso. I understand ANC's point too. I don't agree with it, but I don't have to. The way I see it, you can only react once the guns are us
33 Aa757first: Background checks, mandatory gun safety courses before you buy your first gun, registering the gun and showing proof that you had a safe and secure p
34 ANCFlyer: Start with a serious, thorough background check. I don't mean this silly assed check they have now, I mean all the way live - as if you're trying to
35 Ilikeyyc: The answer is, as ANCFlyer points out, is that there is nothing that can be done to keep people 100% safe from guns. Whether guns are banned or not,