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Air America Has Filed For Chapter 11  
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2372 times:

Air America Radio, a liberal talk and news radio network, has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, a network official told The Associated Press.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/10/13/airamerica.radio.ap/index.html

let the bash fest begin!

[Edited 2006-10-13 16:57:41]

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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
let the bash fest begin!

Nah, it's just not worth it. I think their main issue was taking folks with no real experience in radio and putting them on the air. Yes, they gave most of them a handler to guide them through things but the few times I listened in they just weren't entertaining. Add to that they just didn't have the listeners and the advertising to pay their way. How many places were they paying to be put on the airwaves? It was more than a few IIRC. Not a good business model if you ask me.

Personally, I've become unamused by talk radio as of late on both sides of the aisle. The blowhards on the right and left just yell and yammer on and call each other names and just generally piss me off anymore. I'll still listen to Boortz because he can be so insensitive that it's funny but the rest of the lot drive me bonkers.

The real question here is will the Dems (if they gain control of Congress) put the equal airtime stuff back into place. I say no since it is the role of the FCC to manage the airwaves and ensure that the broadcaster who has paid for that airwave can use it with no interference.

I could care less if you are on the radio talking about Nazis molesting poodles while wearing those damn Croc shoes. If you've paid for the license to that airwave it is your right to yammer on about whatever you want.

Sadly, the FCC doesn't seem to agree with my opinion and have taken a role as our thought and decency police. We'll just have to see what happens.



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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2348 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
Air America Radio, a liberal talk and news radio network, has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, a network official told The Associated Press.

My only regret is that this doesn't necessarily mean that it will go off the air.

Frankly, in my opinion, National Public Radio (NPR), which is center-left, is far more interesting than Air America. If listeners to Air America would give NPR a chance -- it's found on your FM dial -- it's likely that they would be better informed, less inflamed, and more educated, in my view, than what would result from a force-feeding of the likes of Randi Rhodes. As I see it, Randi Rhodes is nothing more than the left's equivalent of Ann Coulter at her most vicious.

What Air America has tried to do, I believe, is to create a "yahoo" culture of left-liberalism that echoes the wild abandon of the mileu of the 1960's. But America has changed since four decades ago -- not least of all because the 1960's have already occurred. And 2006 is less susceptible to political fun-and-games than back then; I think that 9/11 has proved that with a fairly significant degree of emphasis.

Besides, why, exactly, did Mike Malloy lose his place at Air America? There are various theories, and most of them are hardly flattering to AM radio's most leftist major network.

NPR is the closest that the United States has to the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), which is to praise neither the BBC nor NPR, but to say that Air America is, in my view, a continuing failure and a travesty. Air America is a horrible means by which the prejudices of the left are legitimized in the same way that those of the right are supported by borderline-demagogues with far more idealism than sense, and by supporters with far more enthusiasm than wisdom.

It cannot go off the air fast enough -- if only it would.

[Edited 2006-10-13 17:46:09]

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17278 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

I'll really miss not listening to them  Silly ...Not that I could ever find them on the radio in Texas...


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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

I guess the free market has spoken.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Here are some alleged details of the Chapter 11 filing, including schedules filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013062airamerica1.html

I'm going to guess that Air America's biggest star, Al Franken, whose company is owed hundreds of thousand and is entitled to priority as to only $10,000.00, going from the schedules, can't be too happy. I think he's said that he hasn't been paid for a while.

Mike Malloy is also named as a creditor, among dozens of others.

Millions of dollars of other liability on the part of Air America Radio (through its parent) are described, including to such famous names as Clear Channel, etc. Interesting reading.

I can't help noting that this bankruptcy filing comes after a denial a little while ago that Air America was going to do just that.

[Edited 2006-10-13 18:38:11]

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13474 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2263 times:
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So much for Stuart Smalley Radio...  duck 


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 4):
I guess the free market has spoken.

More like the exact opposite.



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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2253 times:

EBIL BOOSH DID IT!!!

User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

I honestly didnt realise they were still on the air. I heard about it when it first came out, then it fell of my radar, but that probably has something to do with the fact I live in the middle of nowhere, we do have a local radio station though, it does air NPR news...but mostly local stuff.

User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

There is a God!

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
What Air America has tried to do, I believe, is to create a "yahoo" culture of left-liberalism that echoes the wild abandon of the mileu of the 1960's. But America has changed since four decades ago -- not least of all because the 1960's have already occurred. And 2006 is less susceptible to political fun-and-games than back then; I think that 9/11 has proved that with a fairly significant degree of emphasis.

You can say the very same thing about many of the hosts of the extreme right wing radio programs - instead of creating a "yahoo" culture of left-liberalism, they have been intent of creating a culture of right-conservatism.

I understand you are conservative, but for crying out loud, you ought to at least be fair.

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 2):
It cannot go off the air fast enough -- if only it would.

Don't like opposing viewpoints, eh? Sounds like you are a fan of fascism....

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
Quoting Pope (Reply 4):
I guess the free market has spoken.

More like the exact opposite.

How has the free market NOT spoken?


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
You can say the very same thing about many of the hosts of the extreme right wing radio programs - instead of creating a "yahoo" culture of left-liberalism, they have been intent of creating a culture of right-conservatism.

I tend to agree, to some degree. I never quote Rush Limbaugh here, for example. And, as might be inferred from one of my postings, above, I think that Ann Coulter can go too far, despite the fact that I've defended some of her statements in the past.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
Don't like opposing viewpoints, eh? Sounds like you are a fan of fascism....

Only if you disregard my comments about NPR, above, among many of my other comments in this Forum.

[Edited 2006-10-13 20:11:10]

User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4860 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2208 times:

About time, Al Franken is an absolute retard and does nothing to but make Dems look bad.


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User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4271 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

Air America...you know, I listened to it a few times back in Dallas. It seemed to be WBAP's alter-ego: instead of Rush you have Malloy, who is just as much of an idiot (if he's the guy who was on around midnight); you have Hannity's opposite; you have O'Reilly's opposite. It is still just a bitch and moan station for the most part. It would have been better, in my opinion, if maybe they had tried constructing some ideas for how to improve our situation instead of just bashing it out of hand and decrying every conservative idea as evil before they even think it through. Not all of the hosts did this, just the ones who happened to be on as I drove to and from work. It is hypocritical, in my view, to blast the repugnant crap Rush throws out there and then throw the same bag of crap from the left side of the road. And don't get me wrong, I disagree with many ideas of our current conservative government (and Texas' conservative state government), but the ideas are not all bad. By looking at the ideas of your opposite, you might find that there are some facets that you could adopt to your position. Anyway, this rant has gone on long enough. Air America is not a bad idea, it just seems they forgot what they set out to do and what we needed them to do.

Texan



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User currently offlineArtieFufkin From United States of America, joined May 2006, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2195 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 4):
I guess the free market has spoken.

True.

And when November 7th comes along and the GOP will be thrown out 20 seats, losing Congress and the Senate, the voters will have spoken.

Big wheel keep on turning.


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13474 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2189 times:
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Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 15):
And when November 7th comes along and the GOP will be thrown out 20 seats, losing Congress and the Senate, the voters will have spoken.

We'll see, Artie. We'll see.



"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

If you really wanted to listen to liberal Talk radio all you have to do is listen to NPR, Which has survived on the Government dole and begging since the early seventies.

The problem with Air America is that unlike NPR they didn't depend on the Government, and isn't that what Liberals want people to do!


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2182 times:

Quoting Texan (Reply 14):
Air America is not a bad idea, it just seems they forgot what they set out to do and what we needed them to do.

Texan, you are quite right in this, may I say.

If only Air America would hire or prominently and consistently interview impartial experts in their respective fields, for example, then its listeners would stand to benefit.

It is a shame that the left does not sufficiently take into account its own critics. Nor does the national media give such critics the role they deserve in a debate where both sides of an issue should be heard, leaving each side to present only a biased viewpoint to such an extent that it may easily mislead an audience. For example, Michael Scheuer, author of Imperial Hubris and a critic of both the Bush and Clinton approaches to terrorism, has been extensively featured on at least one conservative radio talk show (the syndicated Larry Elder Show) for his statements that, during a forceful defense of his policy on Fox News Sunday, former President Clinton outright lied about the CIA's assessment concerning bin Laden. Scheuer should know -- he headed the CIA's bin Laden desk during former President Clinton's Administration.

On CBS's Early Show the morning after Pres. Clinton's comments, Scheuer had said that the accusation that the CIA had refused to certify bin Laden's role in terror attacks cited by Mr. Clinton was false and defamatory.

(Excerpt from a third source)

Quote:
In his role of CBS News terrorism analyst, Scheuer was asked Monday to comment on Clinton’s Sunday performance and provided more than his questioner apparently bargained for. To claim that the CIA could not verify that bin Laden was responsible for the attack on the USS Cole, said Scheuer, “the former president seems able to deny facts with impunity.”

Scheuer continued: “He defames the CIA . . . and the men and women who risked their lives to give their administration repeated chances to kill bin Laden.” Asked whether Bush was no less responsible for letting bin Laden escape from Tora Bora in Afghanistan, Scheuer replied: “The fact of the matter is that the Bush administration had one chance that they botched, and the Clinton administration had eight to 10 chances that they refused to try. At least at Tora Bora, our forces were on the ground.”

Scheuer was just interviewed by Larry Elder, a prominent Republican talk show host and attorney and reaffirmed those statements.

Air America, as far as I know, would never interview someone like Scheuer or give any quarter to the idea that Pres. Clinton was mistaken his policies on the war against terror. In fact, the mainstream national media, with the exception of the CBS program mentioned above, has not given Scheuer's claims their due. To see this, one need only execute a Google search.

Air America could still be a reasonable alternative to right-wing radio by dropping its partisan approach and allowing a bipartisan debate on the various issues of the day -- something that conservative talk radio does not often promote.

Instead, Air America has turned to comedians such as Al Franken and so-called "young turks" for nothing less than the leftist version of Rush Limbaugh. For this, it deserves to fail, in my view.

Citation to article serving as third source:

http://www.mexiadailynews.com/opinio...124817.html?keyword=secondarystory

[Edited 2006-10-13 20:58:25]

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 12):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
Don't like opposing viewpoints, eh? Sounds like you are a fan of fascism....

Only if you disregard my comments about NPR, above, among many of my other comments in this Forum.

SAying you are glad they are off the air comes pretty close. Tells me that while you are OK with middle of the road liberalism a la NPR, you would rather not have really liberal content on the air.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 16):
Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 15):
And when November 7th comes along and the GOP will be thrown out 20 seats, losing Congress and the Senate, the voters will have spoken.

We'll see, Artie. We'll see.

I belive Artie is correct with regard to the House, and possibly even the Senate, though the latter will be a tough one.

In any event, it won't matter. In the immortal words of Pete Townshend, as sung by Roger Daltrey, "Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss."

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 17):
If you really wanted to listen to liberal Talk radio all you have to do is listen to NPR, Which has survived on the Government dole and begging since the early seventies.

The problem with Air America is that unlike NPR they didn't depend on the Government, and isn't that what Liberals want people to do!

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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

Awwwww, that's too bad.  cry 





 rotfl 





-NWA742


User currently offlineArtieFufkin From United States of America, joined May 2006, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2139 times:

Let's just say for sake of argument that NPR is a liberal program. Has no redeeming qualities.

This is a great example of where blue collar right wingers are just not sophisticated enough to know what's in their interest and what's not in their interest.

The amount of money NPR gets is so incredibly tiny compared to the Billions squandered on a bogus war. Compared to the money GOPers gave in tax cuts to oil companies. Jesus Christ, they proposed a social security program that would cut your kids SS payments by 40% (with the private accounts). The present program could have been fully funded if they had raised the SS tax cap on those making over $250K per year. And all you can come up with is NPR, flag burning, and Defense of marriage act...LOL


User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

I'm not into talk radio. Personally I think it's a waste of time, most keep talking about the same issues over and over. We had to listen to political radio for a pols class and talk about what we heard. The left talk shows seemed almost childish, kind of like the high school radio stations, filled with stupid jokes and heavy radio sound effects. Almost 99% of the time they were negative about everything that is going on right now, top of that the callers were NEVER against the host, you would never hear a person on the right call in to defend. On the other hand the right talk shows were a little more boring but at least they talked with some common sense about the issues and 90% of the time callers were people on the left trying to go against the host. Something that I don't get is why left shows never get peole to call in to object??

User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 21):
This is a great example of where blue collar right wingers are just not sophisticated enough to know what's in their interest

You're absolutely right. It's not like they are having all these issues because most of us, left and right, don't want to hear their extremist views. No, nothing like that at all.




-NWA742


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 19):
SAying you are glad they are off the air comes pretty close. Tells me that while you are OK with middle of the road liberalism a la NPR, you would rather not have really liberal content on the air.

I hope Air America is kicked off the air not because of its left-liberalism, but because I think it's garbage. If it so happens that I think that it's the left-liberalism that makes it garbage, then that's my prerogative. I'm not obligated to be unhappy that it could be off the air out of a sense that I should be nice to everyone: Not everyone is entitled to be on the air.

[Edited 2006-10-13 22:23:18]

25 Pope : Just one question - if this doesn't happen they way you think it will, does that imply that American has spoken and rejected the Democratic party yet
26 ArtieFufkin : nwa742 I wasn't clear in my post who I was replying to. My blurb you quoted was in response to the poster bashing NPR. Like it's some big deal. All li
27 Post contains links AerospaceFan : Apparently over at the Air America message boards, they're discussing up a storm about the Chapter 11 thing. Or maybe not. See: http://www.airamericap
28 DLPMMM : This statement exemplifies the biggest problem of the far left wing. They seem to feel that all decisions should be made by government bureaucrats (m
29 AndesSMF : And I assume that you are smart enough to know what is better for all Americans? I mean, that is a pretty condescending and disgusting attitude on yo
30 Halls120 : Bad argument. If government shouldn't be funding it, it shouldn't be funded. Really? Who IS entitled to be on the air, in your view?
31 AerospaceFan : Anyone who can make money at it and who doesn't espouse blind hatred or puerile garbage. You know, Michael Savage, on the right, sometimes crosses th
32 ArtieFufkin : 43% of these dumbasses think Saddam was involved in 9/11. How could you not have contempt for Bush's base? Hall want don't you get about me saying ju
33 Post contains links AerospaceFan : (Note: The following is SATIRE.) By the way, if you're concerned about Air America's financial health, you, too, can ask Barbra Streisand and George S
34 ArtieFufkin : Oh and another thing about the common man? The common man is coming home from the military and signing up to run as Dems to the tune of 24 to 1 this e
35 AndesSMF : Keep digging the hole, Artie...(be careful, too, you are almost in China) Source? Please, you already showed how much you 'liked' the common man abov
36 ArtieFufkin : Run away little boy. As if my credible source would make a dent in your ideology. Google it yourself.
37 AerospaceFan : Actually, re-enlistment rates are fairly high, so I'm not sure of the accuracy of your statement. That was uncalled-for, might I say. AndesSMF is a r
38 Post contains images AndesSMF : You are managing to totally fulfill my expectations today!
39 Halls120 : I sure am glad you aren't an FCC Commissioner or in Congress. Garbage and hatred might be objectionable to you, but you aren't the arbiter of broadca
40 AerospaceFan : That's marginally interesting, and quite beside the point. Everyone has the ability to decide for themselves whether or not they like a radio offerin
41 Halls120 : I'm confusing nothing. When I come across a TV show or a radio program I find objectionable, I change the channel/station. I don't suggest that it is
42 AerospaceFan : That's your prerogative. You certainly can't reasonably believe that no one else is entitled to think differently. If something can't make money and
43 Halls120 : You are free to think/believe what you want. What does making money have to do with the right to be on the air? LOL, changing your tune now, I see. N
44 Gunsontheroof : Absolutely agreed. Chalk up another victory for free-market capitalism...boo-yah. Seriously though, is it really any surprise that a leftist radio st
45 AerospaceFan : That's my original position, all right. I want it to get off the air, and soon. Why is that inconsistent with my lack of support for the network? You
46 AerospaceFan : Absolutely agreed. I'm glad we agree!
47 Halls120 : Not at all. Calling for Air America to be kicked off the air is not the same as taking pleasure that it "may soon be off the air." So which is it - a
48 AerospaceFan : Both. Station owners should kick the network off the air because it's unprofitable, absent contractual obligations to the contrary. Of course, if the
49 AirCop : Well presented arguments. Apparently we have an individual that just doesn't understand the concept of "freedom of speech". Must drive him crazy that
50 Halls120 : Really? I guess then that all those Sunday morning religion broadcasts that are paid programming ought to be tossed off the air, right? After all, ho
51 AirCop : Just because the network isn't making money, doesn't mean the local station isn't. The old Air America station in Phoenix was making money, so a righ
52 AerospaceFan : Absent any contractual obligation, regardless of content, if it's unprofitable, why should it have any right to remain on the air? Because it's "good
53 N1120A : The extreme financial disadvantages caused by the consolidation in the radio industry, which is controlled by Clear Channel and Infinity, mean that t
54 Post contains images Allstarflyer : I'll give a to AirAmerica and a to its inevitable conclusion. Exactly. And I wonder where N1120A went after his remark. He's a Libertarian, unless he
55 Post contains images N1120A : Yeah, that is why he had the smallest government since the New Deal while Dubya has been spending money like Jennifer Lopez on a shopping spree. Hmm,
56 AirCop : Got that one right on! Beats watching cable news all day. I have found that people that have a life outside of work and interact with real people fac
57 Halls120 : But Air America is on the air. How has Clear Channel and Infinity's "monopoly" prevented people from listening to Air America?
58 Post contains images Allstarflyer : He had the smallest government? Nobody denies Bush is a free-spender, but didn't the surplus come under a (here I go, defending the GOP) Republican C
59 AerospaceFan : Your "Nazi" aspersion aside, you're also wrong about his party affiliation. He's officially a Republican, and has been for a little while. He was ask
60 N1120A : Being on the air on low power, obscure radio stations without the money for heavy self promotion is not like having the power of a massive conglomera
61 GuitrThree : That's funny. I seem to remember Rush Limbaugh starting out in ONE non-syndicated station in California in the 80's. Sean Hannity started out in ONE
62 Usnseallt82 : Guess what? Otherwise known as a byproducts of a free market system.
63 Post contains images TPAnx : Sadly, it's true. Lots of reenforcement of existing beliefs..little debate. CC does have some AA affilates TPAnx
64 GuitrThree : That is true... in markets where AAR looked to be profitable. Thus, again, proving how the Free Market that N1120A doesn't think exists in this case.
65 Post contains images Halls120 : maybe if they put a product on the air that was worth listening to, more people would listen, allowing them to charge more for advertising, thus allo
66 UALPHLCS : Not that I'm a "Blue collar Right-winger" but this is the kind of attitude that liberals spout all the time that infuriates me. I have more respect f
67 Post contains links ArtieFufkin : Oops I got my numbers wrong. It's worse than 24 Democratic veterans running for office versus 1 single GOPer veteran. My apologies. http://www.csmonit
68 Post contains images N1120A : You are talking about single radio shows getting syndicated, not a whole network idea. That is two seperate issues. I should show this to my "far lef
69 GuitrThree : Actually, your idea of the "real free market" is that you are "free" to make as much money as you want. However, at the same time, it's the Governmen
70 N1120A : You are so off the mark, it is funny I guess you forgot about the massive government intervention and investment in Japanese industry, particularly c
71 GuitrThree : And I guess you forgot the Jimmy Carter oil issues that pushed Americans into the smaller Japanese cars, and while they were there they found out tha
72 AerospaceFan : It's reassuring to know that (n)CNN and (n)MSNBC have each run objective analyses of the Air America bankruptcy as well as in-depth interviews with th
73 N1120A : The Jimmy Carter oil issues? Right, I am sure he is the one who said to OPEC "g'head, kill us". Anyway, American companies were building efficient ca
74 UALPHLCS : Seems to me that a case could be made that Republicans in the military are staying in where there duty is rather than Democrats who are leaving and t
75 Post contains links AerospaceFan : It's pretty clear that it was the decision of Japanese companies to make the right types of cars and invest in the right kind of technology that was
76 N1120A : That mother's milk definately goes against free market policies.
77 GuitrThree : But what you are arguing is contrary to your point of: Rush, Hannity, et. al ALL built their shows from a single, small dollar show. Air America star
78 Post contains images N1120A : No it isn't. I was talking about government intervention. The financial backing wasn't anywhere near what their competition has. When Limbaugh and Ha
79 GuitrThree : Once again, Sean Hannity went syndication, on September 10th, 2001. AAR went on the Air, March 31, 2004. That is only 2 and a half years difference.
80 N1120A : And they are in very different businesses Sean Hannity's show was on the air way before that. He may have gone into syndication in 2001, but he was o
81 GuitrThree : ON ONE STATION. How can you establish a National Audience from ONE STATION? And besides that, AAR had radio personalities, such as Randi Rhodes who w
82 N1120A : The same way all radio people do. Word of (loud) mouth Who in the world would syndicate her?
83 GuitrThree : You are right there.... And again, you are right there.... However, AAR did.. might explain something there... Oh well, I'm off to watch the 0-3 Nash
84 Post contains links Jdwfloyd : And I got blasted when I posted this a year and a half ago. http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/787286
85 AerospaceFan : Perhaps, but keep in mind that Japan was devastated by World World II merely a decade or two prior.
86 N1120A : And? Free markets, remember?
87 Halls120 : given that you are the person who thought refiners were running their refineries at less than full capacity, when in fact refinery capacity is near a
88 AerospaceFan : So what? Contribution by the government in the earliest stages of the development of an industry rules out the subsequent operation of market forces
89 PPVRA : Does not guarantee a customer base to turn the station profitable. Perfection is an ideology, it does not happen on the real world. Again, does not g
90 N1120A : The vast majority of the radio is now controlled by very few, as opposed to before, when the law made it so that there was a much larger playing fiel
91 AerospaceFan : I don't think you understand my point. My point is that the past is the past, and that merely because assistance was given in the past doesn't mean t
92 MaverickM11 : So in other words, they had too much supply and not enough demand....how is this not a market response to anything other than Air America's lack of d
93 Post contains images Halls120 : Horse manure. Limbaugh started on small stations, many with weak signals. He didn't have a network of support at the beginning. In any event, what yo
94 Post contains links and images Allstarflyer : This doesn't sound like a president whose policies reflect fiscal responsibility . . . http://www.iht.com/articles/2000/02/08/budget.2.t.php . . . an
95 AerospaceFan : I've noticed that there are significant numbers of conservative talkers who are well-educated -- such as Hugh Hewitt, Larry Elder, Michael Medved, Den
96 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Reader service alert! CNN is carrying live coverage of the Air America thing right now. [Edit: They were interviewing Stephanie Miller. Also, wow, I h
97 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : WTF? So would you like governmental control to disallow concentration? Until you make small cities worth their weight in gold, or in listeners, you w
98 N1120A : That is what happened before. You just don't get it.
99 Texdravid : Air America will be back in some form or another. It will get financial banking from a generous leftist donor because it is too important in the abstr
100 Post contains images Halls120 : obviously it is you that doesn't understand the free market. Or the refining business. Since you aren't going to explain your version of how the free
101 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : Whatever makes you feel better. So while I'm figuring out what I supposedly "don't get," how about you work on answering Halls questions... Impress u
102 UALPHLCS : Conservative Talk radio has grown through the syndication of individual shows. No Conservative NETWORK exists. In NYC WABC which produces and airs Rus
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