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Looks Like It's Over For The Republicans  
User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15319792/

With all the opinion polls (even Fox news!) pointing towards a Democratic landslide next month, it looks like it is finally over for the GOP (Grand Old Pedophiles as they are known following the Foley scandal). Next question is how many decades will it take for the country to recover? Will it ever?

Let the flaming and defending of the indefensible begin!

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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
Next question is how many decades will it take for the country to recover? Will it ever?

I would bet my life on it that they will recover eventually, it's just a matter of how much they need to recover. The polls look bad, but I'll wait until the day of to determine how bad it is. I seem to remember the polls showing Kerry kicking Bush's arse the day of the last election, and that clearly didn't happen. I'm betting that the GOP lose seats, but I doubt that it will be as much of a landslide as polls show.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
Next question is how many decades will it take for the country to recover?

Recover from what?

Expect answer: **Teh EBILS teh GOP has comit33d that ruined teh coun7ry**

Could we please get some specific problems the nation needs to recover from?


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Recover from what?

That's a better question. Even though I said above that it would take time to recover, it's not recover, it's just how much time it will take them to regain control of the House and the Senate. However, at this point, it's all speculation, they may retain control of both.


User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Recover from what?

The damage that I, and apparently a large part of the population think has been done by the current administration. I'm not going to list specifics so you can attack them - just read the news. Of course if you are a die hard republican supporter, you won't agree that there has been any damage done, regardless of any facts, so there is no point in starting a big debate. Those republicans who are willing to stop and think are beginning to realize that things are heading in the wrong direction. Just ask the NINE former republicans who are now running as democrats in Kansas ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15319792/ ). Those who are blind to it all will remain so. As history has shown, if you tell enough lies for long enough, you eventually even believe them yourself.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 4):
I'm not going to list specifics so you can attack them

Very telling.

Don't confuse the problems of a political party with the problems of a nation. The GOP is crap, so are the Dems. Now, I want to know what is wrong with the nation that needs recovering from. Not what is wrong with certain political parties. Those problems are fixed easily on a constitutionally scheduled basis.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2704 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 4):
I'm not going to list specifics so you can attack them

1. So you ask a general question but won't refine it in fear of having your thoughts attacked or argued against.

2.You say the country needs fixing but won't list what you think needs fixing.

It all sounds pretty childish to me on your part.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 6):
It all sounds pretty childish to me on your part.

Then ignore it. Or start your own thread for me to ignore  wink 

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 5):
Don't confuse the problems of a political party with the problems of a nation.

Well my point is that the problems of the Nation are caused by the government (i.e. the governing party). Can the Dems do any better? That remains to be seen. Lets hope that they take Congress now, and the white house in 08, then they will have the chance to show us. Contrary to popular belief, I pretty much agree with your comment that both parties are crap. I just see the Dems as the lesser of two evils since we have no third option.


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2686 times:

Before any of you dyed-in-the-wool Democrats break out your champagne, let me just tell you that unless YOU can offer up something that will better the overall national mood (which currently the only thing you can offer is that you are *NOT* Republicans.....and that you'd like to raise taxes for social programs to the moon.....you'll need to come up with a little more than that), the same thing will happen again in 2010: The Dems will have their butts handed to them.

And round and round it will go every 4 years until either A: one of the parties get in touch with reality, or B: Enough voters demonstrate that they are fed up with the ineptitude of both parties and vote a third party into power.


User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2245 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

We need to recover from the gestapo-type tactics the GOP is employing in this country, I mean, omg, my freedom of speech was taken away!

Sincerely,
the 14-year-old dumbass in California that "threatened" Bush



"On spaceship earth there are no passengers...only crew."
User currently offlineArtieFufkin From United States of America, joined May 2006, 704 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Could we please get some specific problems the nation needs to recover from?

Loss of trust and respect around the World.
3000 Families who've lost a Father, Mother, Son, Daughter.
Thousands of maimed soldiers who go through life with brain damage, being paralyzed.
Budget deficit caused in by 400 Billion in costs.
Increased cynicism of Government due to Bush propaganda.

Yep our UK friend here just told you the truth as any friend would. The problem is you've still got your head in the sand. Bush set us back 30 years.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
With all the opinion polls (even Fox news!) pointing towards a Democratic landslide next month, it looks like it is finally over for the GOP (Grand Old Pedophiles as they are known following the Foley scandal). Next question is how many decades will it take for the country to recover? Will it ever?

Rather incendiary, wouldn't you say?

Unless you assent in the description of the opposition as the DemocRAT party. Democ-RAT; get it?

A bit absurd, this name-calling.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

The Dems in Ohio are now targeting 5 more House races that, 2 months ago, seemed unwinnable. Sherrod Brown has opened up a double-digit lead on GOP incumbent Senator Mike DeWine; Ted Strickland has like a 30-point lead on Secretary of State Ken Blackwell for Governor.

Blackwell has gotten so desperate, he using his own office to try and get Strickland completely removed from the Governor's race.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/plaind.../news/1161255485153120.xml&coll=2>

Even if he would succeed in doing so, Strickland's running mate, Lee Fischer, would still probably trounce Blackwell, so unpopular is that GOP nutcase.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
Loss of trust and respect around the World.
3000 Families who've lost a Father, Mother, Son, Daughter.
Thousands of maimed soldiers who go through life with brain damage, being paralyzed.
Budget deficit caused in by 400 Billion in costs.
Increased cynicism of Government due to Bush propaganda.

I don't believe that we've lost the meaningful co-operation of any nation. Europe won't go to war on our side.. So? They don't seem to have any problems working with us economically.

Yes, the loss of soldiers is tragic, but I don't see that as a national recovery issue.

And if you think cynicism towards the government is new, please explain the Second Amendment.

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
Yep our UK friend here just told you the truth as any friend would. The problem is you've still got your head in the sand. Bush set us back 30 years.

Another assumption of political affiliations?

What has been set back 30 years? Our economy? Don't think so. Our foreign relations? Wouldn't that mean France joined NATO again? Industry? I wasn't aware Bush controlled Industry. Social Programs? The deficit you mentioned seems to indicate we have more social spending than ever before. What are we thirty years behind on?


User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1133 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
3000 Families who've lost a Father, Mother, Son, Daughter

Please please oh Please o'wise one tell me how this was the administrations fault

Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
Yep our UK friend here just told you the truth as any friend would. The problem is you've still got your head in the sand. Bush set us back 30 years.

Again tell me how,30 years ago we we wer still recovering from Watergate and were suffering through stagflation...I'm waiting eagerly for your brilliance to lead us out of the desert.


User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 13):
What has been set back 30 years?

Exactly as I said in my reply number 4. No point in debating with someone who has his blinkers so tighly fixed. That's why I refused to get into it.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26704 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 13):
And if you think cynicism towards the government is new, please explain the Second Amendment.

"In order to maintain a well-regulated militia" sounds an awful lot like a government action.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Reply 15):
No point in debating with someone who has his blinkers so tighly fixed.

That could easily refer to you, as well.


User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
With all the opinion polls (even Fox news!) pointing towards a Democratic landslide next month

Well I guess we will all see here in just under three weeks.

I will say this, it is time for a viable third party as niether party is doing the job it is supposed to, and that is serve the American people. Both sides are more interested in thier campaign war chests than passing quality legislation with good common sense.
If the Dems do take control of one or both houses, I hope they actually plan to get something done instead of trying to punish the GOP for the last 6 years. Which I think is exactly what will happen.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
all the opinion polls (even Fox news!) pointing towards a Democratic landslide next month

isn't it a bit too early to take such polls as a definite thing ? in many countries, decisive swings occur in the last week before an election.

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
to recover?

I mean the Republicans over the past 3 decades have moved more and more to the right, so that Richard Nixon now looks like a leftist. They may move back somewhat towards centreground.


User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 17):
That could easily refer to you, as well.

Gracias chico. Viva Rafael Correa  Smile


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
"In order to maintain a well-regulated militia" sounds an awful lot like a government action.

And you claim to be a law student?

Do they make you learn english first?

Let's read the amendment shall we.

Quote:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Right. Now read it.

Now, who's right is it to keep and bear arms?

Does it say, "the right of the GOVERNMENT to keep and bear arms?"

No, it says, "the right of the PEOPLE keep and bear arms?"

And why do you think that is? Do you think it's because the nation had just fought a war in which the PEOPLE had to fight the GOVERNMENT? Yes, that's right... the people who formed our government so distrusted government that they made it an absolute right to be able to fight the government. Cynicism towards the government new? HA!

Seriously, go to your professors and make them remove you from the class roles if you can't separate a clause from the subject of a sentence. Go back to freshman english and learn to diagram sentences all over again.

Let's try some simple exercises:

Which sentence makes sense.
1) A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State.
2) The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Can you tell now?

[Edited 2006-10-19 19:53:23]

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 14):
Quoting ArtieFufkin (Reply 10):
3000 Families who've lost a Father, Mother, Son, Daughter

Please please oh Please o'wise one tell me how this was the administrations fault

If he's talking about Iraq, then yes, it is the Administrations fault, since they sent them to war.

And I think you should change the first part of your handle to "Ollie". It might be more appropriate.


User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

Quoting Coyoteguy (Thread starter):
landslide

 rotfl  a Landslide would be if they won every position possible with a large margin of victory. That will not be the case here. The Dems might win enough positions to take over, but not 'by a landslide'.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 6):
It all sounds pretty childish to me on your part.

 checkmark 

This thread start is childish flamebait.


User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2513 times:

THE REPUBLICANS WILL HOLD THEM BOTH!!!! and when they do, because more americans voted for republicans than democrats, im sure some of the more fanatical among us will be saying that the voting was rigged or somesuch....get over it! Now 1 of 2 things is going to happen:

1. I am wrong and you guys will flame me until I recant all of this.

2. You are wring and I say told ya so.

I predict #2!

Cheers,
Kyle


25 TedTAce : You might be wrong and if you are, you will be flamed, but making you recant something you have already stated would be foolish. At best we would 'ma
26 Falcon84 : Glad to see your so positive, when all the polling date says the exact opposite. I do like an optimist, though.
27 ZRH : Easy to answer: recover from the politics of hypocrite liar and country destroyer, called George W. Bush.
28 AndesSMF : My point would be Falcon, that this polling now reflects the same realities of the polling done in the last several elections, and we now what those
29 TedTAce : Yeah, and the polls worked how well for the last two presidential elections?
30 Post contains images Coyoteguy : Well happily there is only one Brother who is Governor of a state. And even that is not for much longer
31 N1120A : I paraphrased it pal. You read it again. "A well regulated Militia" Militia 1. a body of citizens enrolled for military service, and called out perio
32 MDorBust : Revolution is often called treason. It all depends on who wins. Alas, yet again, you are fixating on the clause and not on the subject of the sentenc
33 N1120A : Read below. I was specifically talking about the subject as well as the clause which gives the amendment a meaning. Ok, so muskets are legal The Sena
34 GuitrThree : Yep... and your same polling data has Al Gore in the WH in 2000, and JK in the White House in 2004. Oh, wait. Yea. Election Fraud. How long is it goi
35 N1120A : And guess what? He won
36 Falcon84 : On BIG difference, my friend, is those two individual races were too close to call for weeks, if not months. Here, you have a slew of Congressional r
37 ANCFlyer : No, he didn't . . . no matter how you try to spin it.
38 L-188 : With all do respect I think that point went right over your head. Can I give you a bit of a hint....neither are the courts. The people are the final
39 Post contains images ANCFlyer : For once, I don't think I mind ole useless Don Young winning another election. He's useless, generally, but Benson would be abyssmal. . . .
40 N1120A : Actually, yes they are, when it comes to Constitutional interpretation. Again, gun grabbing scum? How about Life, Liberty and Property grabbing right
41 L-188 : Did you here you latest grip. The AFN is in town and as part of their conference they have invited several elected politicians to speak. Including th
42 GuitrThree : Not if you turned on the TV in 2004 about 4PM and listened to the following networks: ABC (All Bill Clinton) NBC (Nothing but Clinton) CBS (Clinton B
43 L-188 : Hey it was the left wing of the USSC that pushed the Eminent Domain ruling through. Again, that assumes the people actuall listen to them. The more n
44 Post contains images ANCFlyer : She's a moron. She oughta quit while she's ahead . . . if her own ethnicity doesn't want her around, what makes her think she's got a snowballs chanc
45 MDorBust : At the time of the muster of the militia. Perhaps you should read the decision now. 1. I included a SCOTUS decision that says the same 2. The congres
46 Post contains images MCIGuy : Dow: 12,011 In the words of a famous Democrat, "it's the economy, stupid"!
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