Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1283 times:
Quoting Liedetectors (Reply 4): Quoting 7474ever (Reply 3):. I'm quiet surprised how safe the Smart is - I mean concerning its size.
At lows speeds yes. But the video did say a high speed crash like that would have likely killed the pax.
Quoting Klaus (Reply 6): Quoting Liedetectors (Reply 4):But the video did say a high speed crash like that would have likely killed the pax.
As in most other cars - don't kid yourself about your chances surviving a high-speed crash in any larger car.
Correct. Even if the passenger compartment survives intact, the human body probably can't stand the forces involved going from 70 to 0 in one second.
Springbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1279 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11): I'll take my BAFDT over a SMART or THINK any day of the week . . . I would imagine my chances of survival in this . .
SUVs are notorious for overturning when they are suddenly swerved. There was a Top Gear (or 5th gear....not sure) episode about this, where they tested a Range Rover and a Jaguar. They were both following a car (which was in front), which suddenly braked...the Jag was able to swerve and avoid hitting the vehicle in front, but when the Range Rover swerved, it went cartwheeling 4-5 times...scary stuff.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1259 times:
Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 12): It totally depends on the accident. In a single vehicle accident you're probably better off in a Smart believe it or not.
How many single vehicle accidents have you seen (much less investigated) a truck like mine get in to? I've seen many . . . other than a bent bumper or a caved finder, not much else to write home about . . .
As for crumple zones, well - I figure someone driving the Smart has about 24 inches of crumple zone in front of the windshield - then the driver is fucked. I pretty much have an 8 foot hood with plenty of 'crumple' out there.
In a multi-vehicle incident, involving say, my BAFDT and perhaps a Toyota Tundra, or a (God forbid) Dodge Neon or that spare tire in the photo above, who do you think is gonna come outta that in better shape?
Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 15): There was a Top Gear (or 5th gear....not sure) episode about this, where they tested a Range Rover and a Jaguar.
And I wouldn't own either one . . . they're nothing but wannabes, along with the Mercedes, Toyota, BMW and all the other psuedo SUVs out there.
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 14): Even if the passenger compartment survives intact, the human body probably can't stand the forces involved going from 70 to 0 in one second.
Not unless you're strapped in like Tony Stewart . . .
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I'm sticking with the BAFDT . . . you can keep those lawnmower engine powered roller skates on steroids.
L410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5585 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1214 times:
Forget Smart. It's so small it's useless. Sometime you just need more trunk space than to fit your backpack or take more than one pax.
I'd go for one of these:
Peugeot 107 and especially Citroen C1 is much cheaper than Toyota Aygo only because of the badge (living proof how stupid brand awareness sometimes is).
The cars are identical, designed, developed and manufactured by Toyota, powered by Toyota's exellent 1.0 VVTi engone. The only difference is design of headlights.
It's only marketed and sold under three different badges.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1178 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 16): As for crumple zones, well - I figure someone driving the Smart has about 24 inches of crumple zone in front of the windshield - then the driver is fucked. I pretty much have an 8 foot hood with plenty of 'crumple' out there.
No, you don't.
You have a few centimeters between the radiator and the motor block and again a few between the motor and yourself.
And when that little Euro-Speck of a car gets hit, and after I roll over the top of it, perhaps damaging the skid plate covering my transmission and fuel cell, I'll send you a photo. Or when it rear ends me and they peel the thing from under my rear bumper where it is jammed in up to the windshield and all the driver of the Euro-Speck can see is a close up version of my license plate, we'll see who comes out of it in better shape.
Now should something hit me dead on head to head, there's a lot of engine in there to stop it. 7.6 liters is pretty damn big. What ever hits me may well get through the Moose Catcher, and plow right through the radiator and engine and transmission oil coolers but it's gonna stop shortly thereafter. Unless of course, it's one of these Euro-Speck cars, in which case, I'm sure I'll be able to put the tranny in 4-Low and back down off the top of it . . .
I've seen these Superduties after accidents. I've investigated accidents with these Superduties. My trust in them is NOT unfounded.
Seriously though: My only concern is being top heavy. The truck does sit fairly high off the ground - eighteen inches to the bottom of the frame rail - and a sudden jerk of the wheel might prove complicating.
: That's surprising to read. I just went here . . . http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/Index2.cfm . . . since the Toyota Sequoia was the first SUV that came