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Schumacher - 10Mil For 2 Nascar Races?  
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1687 times:
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Have just heard a rumor that M Schumacher has been offered a cool $10 Million US to drive the two NASCAR road coarse races next year, Sears Point and Watkins Glen.

Anyone in Europe have a link, or any further info?

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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter):
Have just heard a rumor that M Schumacher has been offered a cool $10 Million US to drive the two NASCAR road coarse races next year, Sears Point and Watkins Glen.

There are also rumors of him driving the diesel Audi DTM car.

Schumie dodges questions about his future... would make excellent candidate in the current midterm elections in the US stirthepot 


User currently offlineDrewfly From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 303 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter):
Have just heard a rumor that M Schumacher has been offered a cool $10 Million US to drive the two NASCAR road coarse races next year, Sears Point and Watkins Glen.

Wow.....if true, I may actually watch a NASCAR race



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter):
$10 Million US to drive the two NASCAR road coarse races

I don't know why this offer would be of any special interest to him.

1. He is a billionaire. He will not live long enough to spend the money his money is earning, even living lavishly.

2. It is slightly less than he was making at Ferrari. A reported $80 million divided by 18 two-hour (maximum) races is about $2.22 million per hour. Nascar races are longer. It is a pay cut.



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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 3):
I don't know why this offer would be of any special interest to him.

To add to that, now that I think about it, Schumacher thinks oval races are dangerous, and he doesn't think he has anything to gain by running in them...


User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Arrogant European perpsective aside (and Schuey has that in spades), few if any of the NASCAR fans know of or care about him. The feeling is mutual, I am sure.

I remembers seeing this jerk interviewed on 60 Minutes. He said that the Indianapolis 500 did not interest him, that he thought the speeds at that race were too high, etc. If this turkey won't drive in the Indy 500, no way he will drive in the "Banquet Frozen Chicken" 300 at the Glen.



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1626 times:
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but we are not talking ovals, we are talking road races.

User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 4):
Schumacher thinks oval races are dangerous

oops

Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter):
two NASCAR road coarse races next year, Sears Point and Watkins Glen.

...not ovals. Left. Right. Uphill. Downhill. Short radius. Long sweepers. Much like F1.

Quoting Stretch 8 (Reply 5):
Indianapolis 500 did not interest him, that he thought the speeds at that race were too high, etc.

Well he has raced the USGP at Indianapolis and come back "up" the front straight off Indy turn 1 at speeds equal to Indy 500 speeds every time the race has been held there. I didn't hear that interview but I don't think he is allergic to high velocities.

"arrogant?" No argument. But then I seem to recall an American "legacy" racetrack brat taking 2nd place there on his rookie outing and telling the press "second place - that is NOTHING"

That is pretty arrogant too.



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter):
M Schumacher has been offered a cool $10 Million US to drive the two NASCAR road

Yeah right....what a nonsense..there is absolutely NO reason for him to do it, the money is just change for this guy, should he opt to make more money by racedriving, a lot of people in Formula 1 are ready to pay much much more because he is fast (but Alonso is fast as well), BUT because he is able to get the act of a team together to be a winning combination, and that NOB ODY is able to do, at least not alive!!

And next season this will get quite obvious!!

NASCAR, what a nonsense, same goes for DTM, maybe a VIP race for charity, but definitely NOT a championship race.

Quoting Stretch 8 (Reply 5):
If this turkey won't drive in the Indy 500, no way he will drive in the "Banquet Frozen Chicken" 300 at the Glen.

Exactly..this turkey with his 90 GP wins, 7 World championships...what a pathetic excuse for a racedriver really...besides a European, therefore arrogant and a surrendering pinko-commie Salooncar-driver anyway Big grin Big grin Big grin



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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

Quoting Stretch 8 (Reply 5):
few if any of the NASCAR fans know of or care about him. The feeling is mutual, I am sure.

I know of him, he's the reason I stopped watching F1, he was too damn good and it got boring. I always liked NASCAR better, I wouldn't mind him being in a few road races, but I'd still give the advantage to Boris Said and Ron Fellows over him, they're used to the stock cars.


User currently offline53Sqdn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Quoting Stretch 8 (Reply 5):
Arrogant European perpsective aside (and Schuey has that in spades), few if any of the NASCAR fans know of or care about him. The feeling is mutual, I am sure.

I remembers seeing this jerk interviewed on 60 Minutes. He said that the Indianapolis 500 did not interest him, that he thought the speeds at that race were too high, etc. If this turkey won't drive in the Indy 500, no way he will drive in the "Banquet Frozen Chicken" 300 at the Glen.

You know what, for once in my life I agree with the sentiments of a US member in what is stated above.

Schumacher is now history. Any wonker that is offering that sort of money for two drives should stand in the middle of a major airports runway whilst A/C are landing/ taking off.

Michael who? Forget the German twat. If he was on fire I would not perspire on him. (Not quite the right word, but this is A.Net)


User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1541 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 1):
There are also rumors of him driving the diesel Audi DTM car.

Actually, the DTM car is a regular petrol engine, there are rumors of him being offered drives in that as well as the turbodiesel R10 Le Mans car, but both are certainly nothing more than rumor.

Quoting Stretch 8 (Reply 5):
I remembers seeing this jerk interviewed on 60 Minutes. He said that the Indianapolis 500 did not interest him, that he thought the speeds at that race were too high, etc.

He's a jerk because he is not interested in the precious 500? I think his concerns about the safety in indy cars are valid, if the cars didn't cause so many injuries and even death over the last 8 years, then he would have no problem with the velocities they achieve. Hell, they hit higher speeds at Monza in the F1 cars than IRL does at most tracks. The man is just not interested in oval racing.

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 9):
but I'd still give the advantage to Boris Said and Ron Fellows over him, they're used to the stock cars.

As much as I respect Ron (not Boris, he has said some stupid things over the years), I think they would have an advantage over schumacher for maybe 4 laps, and then MS's sheer talent would take over and he'd be much faster than those old sportscar drivers. Let's be honest, they never made it in single seaters, they are nearing 50 (or is Ron already over?) and their reactions have slowed. Michael is a few days removed from one of the best comeback drives in Formula 1 for quite some time, and he is a spring chicken compared to many of the NASCAR drivers. In fact, I'd love to see him do Watkins or Sears just to stick it to the NASCAR boys, much as Montoya is going to do next season.

Quoting 53Sqdn (Reply 10):
Michael who? Forget the German twat. If he was on fire I would not perspire on him. (Not quite the right word, but this is A.Net)

The Damon Hill bitterness runs deep  Wink


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

Quoting 53Sqdn (Reply 10):
Michael who?

Damon Who? (Graham Who?)
Stirling Who?
Jimmy Who?
Peter Who?
Mike Who?
Trevor Who?
Tony Who?

It just might be that MS has won more GP than all British drivers who ever sat in a car combined. I don't know, I don't care. Your pretense of superiority does you no credit.



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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

Well, he got an island in the world project in UAE for free, so he don´t need to earn money.

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

Isn't Schumacher, despite his retirement, still contractually bound to Ferrari?

User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13116 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

I doubt he would ever do a NASCAR race, even one of the 2 road course races they do. I wouldn't be surprised of him driving at the Sebring 12 hour, Daytona 24 hour and LeMans 24 hour races as part of a racing team. Several F1 drivers have gone into those races as part of winning teams. Don't forget too that for example Mario Andretti won the Daytona 500 NASCAR race in the early 1970's and later was a F1 champion and drove as part of winning LeMans teams. Good drivers can drive anything - so Schumacher can too.

User currently offlineKevinL1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

Well wadda ya know.

And I got flamed for posting the suggestion that he could go roundie-round in his retirement thread.

NASCAR TV ratings are starting to drop. Having Michael, even as a ringer, adds a whole new spin and will certainly attract more international broadcast distributors. $$



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 4):
To add to that, now that I think about it, Schumacher thinks oval races are dangerous, and he doesn't think he has anything to gain by running in them...

Forgive me, but WHAT THE F&%K DO YOU THINK WE PAY YOU SO MUCH MONEY FOR?!?!?

If anyone is being paid a million or more bucks per race, it had better be dangerous. Nothing sickens me than drivers who complain that the cars go too fast. If you can't keep up, stand aside and let someone else have a go.

Formula 1 is supposed to be the technological peak of racing. The cars are supposed to be faster every year. The whole idea of the spectacle is watching guys race around the track at insane speeds, and the occasional fireball should be expected. The sheer fact that no driver has been killed in F1 since 1994 is proof in my mind that F1 has ceased to push the envelope. And if they are not pushing the envelope, I'm no longer watching.

As far as Schumi driving in NASCAR, I say go for it. Closed wheel racing is very different from open-wheel racing. You are up close and personal. Bumping into other cars is normal - few cars reach the finish line without body damage. That style of driving in open-wheelers would be suicidal.

Which means that a driver migrating from open to closed-wheel racing will have to force himself to be more agressive. That means pushing the envelope, going outside your comfort zone. THAT, I'll watch.


User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 15):
Mario Andretti won the Daytona 500 NASCAR race in the early 1970's and later was a F1 champion and drove as part of winning LeMans teams.

Just for clarification, Mario never managed to win Le Mans despite decades of attempts. He even returned in 2001 (IIRC) in a Panoz LMP, but they didn't come close to toppling the Audis.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 17):
Formula 1 is supposed to be the technological peak of racing. The cars are supposed to be faster every year. The whole idea of the spectacle is watching guys race around the track at insane speeds, and the occasional fireball should be expected. The sheer fact that no driver has been killed in F1 since 1994 is proof in my mind that F1 has ceased to push the envelope. And if they are not pushing the envelope, I'm no longer watching.

Complaining drivers may sicken you, but I'll tell you what sickens me. Someone who actually finds the lack of death in Formula One a turnoff. Maybe, just maybe, F1 has pushed the envelope in terms of safety at a faster pace than the car performance envelope? I see nothing wrong with that, as the terrible days of the 1970s when several drivers died every season in preventable circumstances are not something to be revered. The cars may have been cool, the tracks awe inspiring, but that sort of constant threat of death when it could so easily be prevented is totally unacceptable today to fans, drivers, sponsors, hell, everyone except for sick people like you. There is a reason Jackie Stewart was such a vocal advocate of driver safety and retired before his time following his teammate's death, because anyone who actually experienced the "spectacle" you seem to desire was deeply disturbed by it.

Nascar and Indy (IRL, CART) cars have had deaths in recent years (Dale Earnhardt sr. Tony Renna, Greg Moore, ect.), but that certainly does not mean that they are pushing the envelope, no one argues that NASCAR cars are advanced in any way, they are just way behind the times in terms of safety. I'll give the IRL credit, the most recent chassis designs have been far safer than their earlier machines, and even NASCAR has made some changes such as mandatory HANS devices. For me, F1 is not about building the absolute fastest car to get around a track, risks be damned. Go watch Can Am tapes from the early 70s if you are after that. F1 is about building cars that achieve amazing performance within a given set of rules formulated to preserve driver safety, and I enjoy watching each team's solution to the dilema immensely.


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1447 times:

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 18):
Complaining drivers may sicken you, but I'll tell you what sickens me. Someone who actually finds the lack of death in Formula One a turnoff. Maybe, just maybe, F1 has pushed the envelope in terms of safety at a faster pace than the car performance envelope? I see nothing wrong with that, as the terrible days of the 1970s when several drivers died every season in preventable circumstances are not something to be revered. The cars may have been cool, the tracks awe inspiring, but that sort of constant threat of death when it could so easily be prevented is totally unacceptable today to fans, drivers, sponsors, hell, everyone except for sick people like you. There is a reason Jackie Stewart was such a vocal advocate of driver safety and retired before his time following his teammate's death, because anyone who actually experienced the "spectacle" you seem to desire was deeply disturbed by it.

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You are exactly right.

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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 17):
Cfalk

Beeeeeeeeeeeep Incorrect, The reason no body has died since 1994 (thank god its been that long) is becaues F1 cars now are built with a Safety cell, were everything around the cockpit will break away at a certain speed. This has been incorperated in numorous road cars also. 10-15 years ago Rosbergs crash at brazil would probably have killed someone, same with Alonsos last year at brazil. This cars still race at awesome speeds, At monza they reach 212 MPH. NAscar doesnt have this mainly because not nearly as much money goes into it as does F1. I believe this is what schumacher means when he says it's too dangerous.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 14):
Isn't Schumacher, despite his retirement, still contractually bound to Ferrari?

Yes, IIRC he's contract is there for 5 weeks.

Schumacher wont race in anything other than F1 simply because, he didnt leave F1 because of hatred or anything like that but simply to spend time with his family and friends, so your more likely to see him in F1 than nascar or anything like that.

Rgds --James--



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 18):
Someone who actually finds the lack of death in Formula One a turnoff.

I was a huge Ayrton Senna fan, and was devastated at his death. I don't find it a turn-on, and a logical result when you are driving machines to the very limit of what it and the human body are capable of. Do you think that supersonic aircraft or spaceflight would have been possible if people were not willing to push the outside of the envelope? I'm not hoping for a fatality - but the lack of any such incidences shows that F1 has lost its edge.

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 18):
Maybe, just maybe, F1 has pushed the envelope in terms of safety at a faster pace than the car performance envelope? I see nothing wrong with that, as the terrible days of the 1970s when several drivers died every season in preventable circumstances are not something to be revered.



the whole point of F1 is to drive fast. If I wanted a race that sacrifices speed for safety, I'll go to the local amusement park and check out the go-carts.

Quoting Waterpolodan (Reply 18):
Nascar and Indy (IRL, CART) cars have had deaths in recent years (Dale Earnhardt sr. Tony Renna, Greg Moore, ect.), but that certainly does not mean that they are pushing the envelope, no one argues that NASCAR cars are advanced in any way,

NASCAR suffered from the other extreme. Not using full helmets for instance. My point is that there should be a middle ground between recklessness and a studied pushing back the bounderies.

And NASCAR was never meant to be the ultimate racing series, as is F1. NASCAR still use carburetors, and generally use pretty antiquated technology. What makes it fun to watch is that they stay close, racing wheel-to-wheel the whole race. The only time you get that excitement in F1 is the first turn.


User currently offlineWaterpolodan From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1649 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 21):
the whole point of F1 is to drive fast. If I wanted a race that sacrifices speed for safety, I'll go to the local amusement park and check out the go-carts.

Well, maybe you've never seen F1 cars in person, but I can assure you- they are about as fast as you can imagine a car travelling around a track, and there is not another racing series anywhere in the world that achieves the sort of laptimes F1 cars do. The sacrifices they have made in terms of speed for the stellar safety record today is certainly worth it, and since Ratzenberger and Senna's death at Imola in '94, the cars are many seconds a lap faster and yet also far, far safer.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 21):
And NASCAR was never meant to be the ultimate racing series, as is F1. NASCAR still use carburetors, and generally use pretty antiquated technology. What makes it fun to watch is that they stay close, racing wheel-to-wheel the whole race. The only time you get that excitement in F1 is the first turn.

To each his own, but IMO we saw some truly exciting races in F1 this year- Schumacher's drive this past weekend, Hungary, Turkey, ect.


User currently offlineDuff44 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1410 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 12):
It just might be that MS has won more GP than all British drivers who ever sat in a car combined

Just for posterity:

Name - Wins (driver titles)

Michael Schumacher - 91 (7)

Nigel Mansell (England) - 31 (1)
Jackie Stewart (Scotland) - 27 (3)
Jim Clark (Scotland) - 25 (2)
Damon Hill (England) - 22 (1)
Stirling Moss (England) - 16
Graham Hill (England) - 14 (2)
David Coulthard (Scotland) - 13
James Hunt (England) - 10 (1)
Tony Brooks (England) - 6
John Surtees (England) - 6 (1)
John Watson (Northern Ireland) - 5
Eddie Irvine (Northern Ireland) - 4
Mike Hawthorn (England) - 3 (1)
Peter Collins (England) - 3
Johnny Herbert (England) - 3
Innes Ireland (England) - 1
Peter Gethin (England) - 1
Jenson Button (England) - 1

That's 191 for all of the UK. 65 for Scotland, 117 for England, and 9 for Northern Ireland.

12 World titles for the UK. 5 for Scotland, 7 for England.

No, I don't have anything better to do  no 

All information from www.forix.com



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 23):
No, I don't have anything better to do

I was hoping to goad someone (a Brit, preferably) into doing that research. Your list will do nicely, thanks.

Hey! I was wrong.

Still, Schumi has a pretty impressive total. More than Jimmy Clark, Stirling Moss, Juan Manuel Fangio, Alberto Ascari, and my personal favorites Innes Ireland and Carel deBeaufort and my all-time, hands-down favorite Masten Gregory combined.

edit: I loved Ireland' style. He seemed to enjoy what he did more than most. Admired deBeaufort for being within a couple seconds of the works cars in his own, private entry. Moss was just staggeringly talented and at least as competetive as anyone else you can name. We saw him make a huge blunder just a couple of years ago in the vintage races at Laguna Seca where he went down the inside at turn two and T-boned a museum piece racer ahead of him. And MS gets crucified for hitting Damon Hill in an ACTUAL RACE - for point?

[Edited 2006-10-27 01:52:17]


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25 Post contains images HKGKaiTak : I don't think the rumours would be true, Schumi has nothing to gain by going to Watkins Glen or Sears Point for a race or two ... Schumacher himself s
26 Post contains images Duff44 : My sister is an England resident, between London proper and LHR... partial credit? I think win percentage is more telling, because there's a lot more
27 NeilYYZ : I don't see Schumacher doing well at all if he were to race one of NASCAR's road tracks. Said and Fellows are road course specialists, and have been
28 Bill142 : It would be an easy $10 mill. He has to pay for the go kart track on his slice of 'Antartica' in 'The World' development which hes been give by the S
29 HKGKaiTak : Maybe not during the race, but he'll be up there in qualifying, being a road course specialist - but won't finish high in the race. I remember when t
30 Zarniwoop : But there is a difference between a blunder and an intentional crash to win a championship.........
31 Bill142 : Oh if were talking about bluders, did anyone see Sebastian Bourdais move at the Gold Coast Indy on the weekend. Locked up miles away from the corner
32 Post contains links Zarniwoop : At least he hasnt ruled out returning to motorsport at some point: "Schumacher, meanwhile, who retired from Formula One after Sunday's Brazilian GP, h
33 Wingman : Both boring as piss these days. NASCAR with its childish circles, Watkins Glen notwithstanding, and F1 with its "whoever has the most money wins" poli
34 Duff44 : It was Will Power... The only thing that stunk more than Bourdais' driving was Paul Tracy's comments that the race was fixed: From autosport.com: Thi
35 Bill142 : Champ Car = Formula 1 for idiots?
36 Post contains images 53Sqdn : The Iceman has left the circuit. Get over it! Jeez! He ain't no God! As a driver he was good. As a human being, he was definitely (IMO) a third rate t
37 BA757 : The Iceman was Hakkinen, or Raikkonen as he has been called a few times recently. Schumacher was just a tool. (That sounds a bit American, no?) Adam
38 Post contains images Nosedive : Fair enough. But even still, if MS wanted to win something in NASCAR, I think having the "title" of "pinch hitter" at the Glen or Sears Point (Infine
39 Post contains images Waterpolodan : That's not true, when Schumacher was beaten by people he respects, he gave them full credit. He and Hakkinen had a great mutual respect, and their ba
40 2H4 : So, it seems as though many people are faulting MS for one or a combination of three things: Being very, very good at what he does Accepting very hig
41 Bill142 : I never remember him being called that. He was always nick named the Flying Finn
42 Duff44 : No, just a couple of idiots in particular. Correct. He was running there and moving forward when the race was cut short due to darkness (no lights at
43 Kay : Of all my years of viewing F1, Michael Schumacher has provided the most thrills (and that includes the Prost-Senna years since I started watching F1 i
44 Post contains images Tod : I assume that these are the word of someone that hasn't attend too many racer funerals. It puts the game in perspective. Tod
45 Post contains images HKGKaiTak : I must say I like that description ... It's certainly the series for Formula 1 wannabes/has beens. Yeah, but not enough respect not to run Mika off t
46 Bill142 : MS just blocked him. They were bothing trying to Lap Zonta and MS just used Zonta as a block. Mika simply went underneath the both of them and made t
47 BA757 : He was called that fairly often by the British media, granted, Flying Finn was the more frequently used one. Adam
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