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Why Do The Brits Hate Halloween?  
User currently offline102IAHexpress From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1156 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4272 times:



Just curious as I am of the belief that Halloween is our best holiday here in America. I admit Halloween is meaningless and commercial ridden; as is all our other holidays, but at least it’s an equal opportunity holiday. Pretty much everyone can and does celebrate it.

It’s pretty cool, that no matter how poor you are, you can knock on some strangers’ door and you will be treated to free candy for doing absolutely nothing!
I have my own house now, so I’ll be greeting the neighborhood problem childs with candy in the hopes they won’t TP my house. But I’ll be prepared if they get any ideas. Man, I love it.
But our friends across the pond seem to hate Halloween.

Quote:
...in a Halloween discussion group on Mumsnet, a popular mothers’ Web site here. The tips being traded were not about how to make pumpkin soup, but about how to repel would-be trick-or-treaters. “I’ve thought about removing the cover from my doorbell so they electrocute themselves,” one participant wrote.

What gives?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/31/wo...13a03d87d&ei=5094&partner=homepage

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User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4269 times:

Well, I for one don't mind Halloween at all, and tonight after work shall go to the Northumberland Arms and have some halloween beer.

I think the propblem is that recently it was observed in a poll that many UK residents feel threatened by gangs of youths roaming the streets behaving in an antisocial manner. Halloween is feared to increase such gangs.

For me, the whole evening is a winner, as all of the girls out and about will be dressed up in sexy costumes, and I am off work tomorrow!  Wink

Kieron747


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4267 times:

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Thread starter):
Just curious as I am of the belief that Halloween is our best holiday here in America. I admit Halloween is meaningless and commercial ridden; as is all our other holidays, but at least it’s an equal opportunity holiday. Pretty much everyone can and does celebrate it.

and here it isn't even a holiday - just a normal work or school day. That may have much to do with the fact that so many of us just aren't interested in it particularly. Its fun for small kids, but for everyone else its just really another night of TV, the pub or whatever.

Perhaps if it was a public holiday we might be more enthusiastic  Wink



Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlineCosec59 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4262 times:

I think Ryan summed it up perfectly in another thread

Quote:
Its gone way too far over this side of the pond, when i think of trick or treat i conjure up an image depicted in the film E.T with kids out dressed up and having parties.I guess the american ideal to me.

But, where i am in reality it is an excuse for Robbery, Criminal Damage and Assaults. Even the kids that are more well behaved through the rest of the year seem to see it as an excuse and acceptable behaviour.
To make matters worse the egging has already started 4 or 5 days prior...

No fun here im afraid.

Ryan


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

I'm going dressed as JGPH1A tonight.


One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4254 times:

I think it has something to do with this guy:



QFF


User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

Because it is another excuse for people to cause trouble and vandalise things.

Tom.



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User currently offlineKazzie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

I love it! i was going to go out 2nyte... cant now though!

User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4226 times:

Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 5):
I think it has something to do with this guy:

Victor is a role model for us all. when I'm retired I want to be just like him..

I always put out signs telling anyone that I don't celebrate halloween, and that anyone who knocks will not be made welcome. It's glorified bribery "give me something or else I'll egg your house" as far as I'm concerned, they're all fat little rich kids that don't need to beg for food at all.

It's nothing a highpressure hose full of water can't fix however.


User currently offlineRyangooner From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 969 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4213 times:

Its the busiest night of the year for Police i know that much, only new years eve comes close.

I think its a big night for insurance claims too!!

Ryan



ooh to ooh to be ooh to be a gooner!
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 4):
I'm going dressed as JGPH1A tonight.

Do Asda sell a "cultured, intelligent, sophisticated and stunningly gorgeous" costume then ? Even if they did, you still wouldn't be convincing.

You should go as Kirkie rather - you just need a used syringe sticking out of your arm, and a deep-fried Mars Bar, and you're good to go.


User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6696 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4198 times:

Quoting Ryangooner (Reply 9):
Its the busiest night of the year for Police i know that much

This was last night, in Liverpool

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6101232.stm

"More than 1,000 police officers were on duty in Merseyside on Mischief Night to combat anti-social behaviour."


My wife used to teach at a "special school" in London and after one Halloween one of the kids said that some old geezer didn't give him anything for trick-or treat so he got a couple of bricks through his windows.



wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4198 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 10):
You should go as Kirkie rather - you just need a used syringe sticking out of your arm, and a deep-fried Mars Bar, and you're good to go.

not to mention spend the evening lying in gutter stinking of alcohol  Wink



Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4191 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 12):
lying in gutter stinking of alcohol

Kirkie can't afford alcohol. Alex would have to lie in the gutter stinking of drain cleaner.


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4180 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 13):
Alex would have to lie in the gutter stinking of drain cleaner.

While dressed as Dr Frankenfurter in an attempt to look like you tonight Big grin



Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 1):
tonight after work

What!?!?! I thought you would be staying home with your ear to the wall!!!

I fear that some British kid's often go to far with fireworks. Once they get their hands on them...you know that something bad will happen. However if there is a proper fireworks display on, it can be enjoyable. However if staying at home, turn out the lights and pretend you're not home. Avoid the trick or treaters. Save the treats for yourself!



Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4165 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 10):
Do Asda sell a "cultured, intelligent, sophisticated and stunningly gorgeous" costume then ?

No but they do sell bin liners so I Can emulate your attire.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 13):
Kirkie can't afford alcohol. Alex would have to lie in the gutter stinking of drain cleaner.

Is that what me and him will drink tomorrow afternoon then? Urgh.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
While dressed as Dr Frankenfurter in an attempt to look like you tonight

Does this mean I have to go buy some sausages?



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4153 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 14):
While dressed as Dr Frankenfurter in an attempt to look like you tonight

That rich, coming from a man who took advantage of the dismantling of the Grimsby herring fleet to finally get enough netting together to make one pair of stockings - enough for 25,000 kg of herring or one of your thighs  Smile

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 16):
Is that what me and him will drink tomorrow afternoon then? Urgh.

Probably. Domestos "Ocean Fresh" with ice, lemon and a cherry.

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 16):

No but they do sell bin liners so I Can emulate your attire

Bin liners ? Mr. Balenciaga will scratch your eyes out !


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 17):
Bin liners ? Mr. Balenciaga will scratch your eyes out !

But they are D&G bin liners Big grin

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 17):
enough for 25,000 kg of herring or one of your thighs

Yes i do indeed have masculine muscular hairy thighs, so stop drooling you old tart, I'm not one of your sailor boyz down the docks  Wink

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 17):
Probably. Domestos "Ocean Fresh" with ice, lemon and a cherry.

Otherwise known as WKD Blue....



Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4135 times:

Quoting 102IAHexpress (Thread starter):
Why Do The Brits Hate Halloween?

Coz it givs the Chavs an excuse to behave even worse than they normally do.  Angry



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4135 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):
Yes i do indeed have masculine muscular hairy thighs, so stop drooling you old tart, I'm not one of your sailor boyz down the docks

 yuck   vomit  - and you still wear fishnets ? BIG mistake - no wonder the punters are staying away in droves.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):
But they are D&G bin liners

D&G ? Might as well be bin-liners - cheap, chavvy rubbish.

Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):
Otherwise known as WKD Blue....

Oh - they rebranded it ?  Smile


User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4122 times:

Ah, JG surfaces for a debate on Halloween and turns it into a slanging match re dress code! Big grin

Halloween sucks, should be banned and anyone taking part should be incarcerated with Cornish and JGPH1A for all eternity! Big grin

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4110 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 21):
Halloween sucks, should be banned and anyone taking part should be incarcerated with Cornish and JGPH1A for all eternity!

Oi why do I have to be incarcerated with that old tart as well ?  grumpy 

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 21):
turns it into a slanging match re dress code!

Dress code is important in some of the classier establishments some of us frequent. We are not talking dress codes of comfy beige cardies and slippers down at your local Darby & Joan club Skidz  Wink



Just when I thought I could see light at the end of the tunnel, it was some B*****d with a torch bringing me more work
User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4102 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 21):
Halloween sucks

C'mon, you're only saying that because people try to return you to your home every time you go trick or treating.

"Oh, you poor old man, come in and have some Werthers originals while we call someone..."

Thom@s Big grin



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13739 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 19):

Too right.




Horrid hoodlums (spelling).



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
25 Post contains images JGPH1A : I was about to ask the exact same thing ! I'm having hideous visions of Baby Oil Night again
26 ME AVN FAN : there used to be, quite near to that pub, an Italian restaurant and gelateria which was really good. Is that restaurant still existing ?
27 Kieron747 : There is! You are talking to the one on Tottenham Court Road I presume? Kieron747
28 ME AVN FAN : In Zurich, there used to be the so-called "school-sylvester" on the very early morning of 23rd December, which increasingly degenerated into an "anti
29 ME AVN FAN : Why not ? Here in ZRH it as far as I can see it primarily is a fun-time for school-children, and a replacement for the "gone" school-sylvester.
30 ME AVN FAN : Bad. BUT, are you sure that the "anti-social behaviour" would not have occurred at just another time in more or less the same place done by more or l
31 Ryangooner : Not on this scale, this is in fact nationwide and not just seen in Liverpool, this time of year is a busy time, halloween and firework night being th
32 Post contains links RAPCON : Taking into consideration the dilapidated look of some of those depressed mill towns that one can find in England, I would recommend that instead of H
33 ME AVN FAN : - OK, let me turn my question around. Don't you think that these riots would have taken place at another date and time, and another pretext, but in t
34 Ryangooner : No, these mini riots on this scale do not happen at other times, yes there are the same old anti social behaviour problems that happen all year round
35 Baroque : Would you believe that he protests. We will send Chaney round to arrange some water sports. Has the problem of "doctored" candies gone away? When I s
36 Post contains images PlymSpotter : That poster comes from Devon & Cornwall constabulary, and I'm glad that they are trying to stop it. A couple of yeas ago the "trick or treaters" set f
37 Pope : If you had to go to something called a "fancy dress" party I'd bet you'd be pissed too.
38 Post contains images AerospaceFan : True, that!
39 Post contains images Scbriml : Why do we hate it? It's an American thing that 10-15 years ago meant nothing in the UK. I've just had a bunch of American brats ringing my doorbell (t
40 ME AVN FAN : well, they would have used another excuse for their mis-doings
41 Post contains images FlyKev : I think it may be because of the amount of "chavs", "yobs" and "hoodies", who generally use the holiday as an excuse to cause more damage, violence et
42 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Wow! I didn't know that the American tradition of Halloween was actually making its way to Ye Olde England. What's next? July 4th?
43 Post contains images PlymSpotter : How about NO But then again it wouldn't surprise me actually
44 Post contains images AirbusA346 : *cough*Bush-Blair*couch* Tom.
45 Post contains images AerospaceFan : It shouldn't surprise you at all, since turnabout is fair play, and according to some on the left, America already has its version of King George.  
46 LTBEWR : Halloween has become even bigger in the States in the last seveal years, especially for adults. For many, it is an excuse to be someone that they are
47 Ryangooner : So what your saying is if it wasnt for Halloween they would be causing this mayhem in another time and place and for another reason? So why is it tha
48 BigOrange : Why Do The Brits Hate Halloween? Because it's a day of legal extortion by the kids who go round trick or treating. Unlike here in the US, they are not
49 ME AVN FAN : - I simply do NOT believe that they just do what they do because of Halloween. They would do so anyway, simply using another excuse. In Zurich, as me
50 Post contains images Eatmybologna : They're scared!!!
51 Post contains images Vc10 : We do not really hate Halloween but just pretend too, as if we let it be known that we enjoy it then our nice Mr Blair will tax it littlevc10
52 Ryangooner : Your not getting it are you. Crime soars on Halloween - period Your telling me how to do my job, i thank you for the input but i have been planning H
53 ME AVN FAN : I am sorry, but it looks as if it is NOT a "Halloween" problem but YOUR problem ! It just is as with hooliganism. NOT football is the problem, but th
54 Post contains images Jcs17 : At least you guys don't have to throw down $15 on a good set of novelty teeth for your costumes.
55 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : isn't that your teeth ??
56 Ryangooner : I am not blaming the occasion but the hooligans that hijack the occasion, unfortuantely this is what the UK is now faced with, It just so happens tha
57 ME AVN FAN : But again, Halloween does NOT bring such things to the doorsteps of anybody. It however may ignite already existing problems IF there are people who
58 Post contains links and images Mdsh00 : How could you not like this? http://www.fhmus.com/articles-2422.asp?i=181 I say, if the Brits are going to emulate Halloween from us. Do it right!
59 Cosec59 : I just went down the local supermarket for some milk. There were signs everywhere in the shop stating "We will NOT be selling flour nor eggs on Hallow
60 Ryangooner : Take your average law abiding youth in Britain - All year round he abides by the law and never causes anti social behaviour - bring on Halloween and
61 Post contains images Thom@s : And obviously it is impossible to buy that sort of stuff say... the day before Halloween... Thom@s
62 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Well, even here in California, while shopping for a few sundries, I saw someone with a mask walk around in a store yesterday evening. The gentleman in
63 ME AVN FAN : suggest you hand the stuff to a school nearby or something thelike
64 Post contains images FDXMECH : You stole my post, LMAO.
65 Sunshine79 : Normally, I don´t bother with Halloween, but I went out last night dressed up as a witch and had a brilliant time. My flatmate and I went to a kids p
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