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Can You Get USA DirecTV Signal In Mexico?  
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 31
Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 16243 times:

Hi guys,

I was wondering if it's technically possible to receive DirecTV USA satellite signals in northern Mexico, especially in Monterrey which is just 200km ( 125mi aprox.) away from Texas.

Thanks for your replies,
Luis

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User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 16240 times:

Yep, people do it all the time... illegally. You really wouldn't have to worry about it either since you are in Mexico. Just buy a US DirecTV box and dish, set it up, find someone on the net with phony SmartCards and throw it in your DirecTV reciever.


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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 16238 times:

I imagine he might want to do it legally. Though at least you've answered that it's technically feasible.

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User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16230 times:

If it's technically possible, I will buy the DirecTV equipment online and will pay DirecTV for its service, giving them my US billing address. My family that lives in Monterrey would like to have American DirecTV box in order to watch a specific channel which shows live Venezuelan TV 24/7.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16229 times:

It's best to ask a DirecTV representative that might know the answer. If there are no DirecTV vendors in Monterrey, I assume you can still buy the equipment and the service, but installation is a ball in your court.

In addition you have to aim the dish properly. Installers usually have information based on zip code, town, or reagion on where the dish is generally supposed to be pointed.

Again, a DirecTV representative will know more. You might have to ask around a bit though.

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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16213 times:

We discussed this something like 2 years ago. this might interest you:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1193362/

My post:

"Heres a list of free channels to be had via satellite. Its just that people in this country are willing to pay for DirecTV or what not and think they are getting some kind of flipping value.

Just for our case, Let me copy here to you what you can have for free: You might recognize some of those channels...such as HBO, ESPN, AMC etc etc. Also listed next to it are satellites/bands that provide it...so in case you want to import equipment to the USA you know where to look. I suggest looking at http://www.lyngsat.com/ to see what you can get @ what frequencies and where.

3ABN AMC 23 DVB
Optus B3 DVB
Thaicom 3 DVB
Hot Bird 3 DVB
PAS 9 DVB
AMC 4 DVB
3ABN Latino PAS 9 DVB
AMC 4 DVB
A&E East Galaxy 11 Digicipher 2
ABN Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
ACN Galaxy 10R Digicipher 2
AFN Guide Intelsat 10-02 DVB
AFN TV Telstar 12 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Aghapy TV Telstar 12 DVB
Al Hayat Türksat 2A DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Al Masriyah USA Intelsat 10-02 DVB
Alhurra Intelsat 701 DVB
NSS 703 DVB
Arabsat 2B DVB
Badr C PAL
Badr 2 DVB
Nilesat 101 DVB
Intelsat 907 DVB
Alhurra Iraq Intelsat 701 DVB
NSS 703 DVB
Badr 2 DVB
Nilesat 101 DVB
Intelsat 907 DVB
Alkarma TV Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Almavisión SatMex 5 DVB
America One EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
America's Store AMC 11 DVB
AmericanLife TV Network Galaxy 4R Digicipher 2
Angel One AMC 4 DVB
EchoStar 7 DVB
Angel Two AMC 4 DVB
Appadana International Telstar 12 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
ARCS AMC 8 DVB
ARY Digital USA Nimiq 2 DVB
ASC Flix Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
ASC Xtra Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Asianet USA Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
AssyriaSat PAS 8 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
ATN USA
Amazonas DVB
B-Mania TV EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
Black Belt TV Amazonas DVB
Black Family Channel Galaxy 11 Digicipher 2
Bloomberg TV Asia-Pacific Optus B1 DVB
AsiaSat 3S DVB
Bloomberg TV Brasil PAS 3R DVB
Bloomberg TV Deutschland Astra 1F PAL
Astra 1G DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Bloomberg TV Europe Hot Bird 6 DVB
Bloomberg TV Latin America PAS 3R DVB
Bloomberg TV UK Hot Bird 6 DVB
Bloomberg TV US AMC 11 DVB
Bluegrass Music Galaxy 10R DVB
Boston Catholic TV AMC 11 Digicipher 2
BYU TV NSS 5 DVB
AsiaSat 2 DVB
Telstar 12 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
SatMex 5 DVB
C-SPAN AMC 11 NTSC
C-SPAN 2 AMC 10 NTSC
C-SPAN 3 Galaxy 10R Digicipher 2
CBN Super Channel Telstar 12 DVB
CCCSAT Galaxy 10R Digicipher 2
CCN Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Celebrity Shopping Network Galaxy 11 Digicipher 2
Channel G
AsiaSat 3S DVB
Channel One Hot Bird 2 DVB
Telstar 12 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Classic Arts Showcase Intelsat Americas 6 DVB
Galaxy 15 NTSC
Classic Black Gospel Galaxy 10R DVB
CN8 AMC 1 Digicipher 2
CNBC Arabiya Badr 2 DVB
Nilesat 101 DVB
CNBC Europe Hellas Sat 2 DVB
Astra 1E DVB
Hispasat 1C DVB
CNBC Germany Astra 2C PAL
CNBC US PAS 3R DVB
CNBC-E Türksat 2A DVB
CNN International Badr C PAL
CNN International Europe Astra 2A DVB
Astra 1E PAL
Astra 1H DVB
NSS 7 DVB
CNN Türk Türksat 2A DVB
CNN USA Intelsat Americas 6 DVB
Intelsat Americas 7 DVB
Coin Country AMC 3 DVB
Comcast Sports Southeast Galaxy 11 Digicipher 2
Cornerstone TV (WPCB) AMC 4 DVB
Create
AMC 3 Digicipher 2
CTN - Christian TV Network (WCLF) AMC 1 DVB
CTN International PAS 9 DVB
Cutlery Corner Network AMC 3 DVB
Dandana TV Nilesat 101 DVB
Daystar TV AMC 23 DVB
Optus B3 DVB
Thaicom 3 DVB
Telstar 10 DVB
PAS 10 DVB
Eurobird 1 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Sirius 2 DVB
NSS 806 DVB
Galaxy 3C DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
AMC 4 DVB
Galaxy 10R DVB
Didar Global TV Hot Bird 2 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Discovery Channel Europe Eutelsat W2 DVB
Discovery Español AMC 11 Digicipher 2
Discovery HD Theater AMC 11 Digicipher 2 - HD
EchoStar 1 DVB - HD
Discovery HD UK Astra 2B DVB-S2 - HD
Discovery Health Channel AMC 11 Digicipher 2
Discovery Kids América Latina Solidaridad 2 DVB
AMC 11 Digicipher 2
Discovery Travel & Living América Latina AMC 11 Digicipher 2
DISH Network FYI EchoStar 3 DVB
EchoStar 7 DVB
Disney Channel Korea Koreasat 3 DVB
DoveVision Eurobird 1 DVB
AMC 4 DVB
E! Telstar 12 DVB
EBC 1 Hot Bird 6 DVB
Encore West EchoStar 1 DVB
Enlace TBN PAS 9 DVB
Enlace TBN Europa Hot Bird 6 DVB
Hispasat 1C DVB
ESNE PAS 3R DVB
SatMex 5 DVB
Esperanza TV AMC 4 DVB
ESPNU EchoStar 8 DVB
Events Order
EchoStar 7 DVB
EWTN Africa & India PAS 10 DVB
PAS 3R DVB
Galaxy 11 DVB
EWTN Asia Intelsat 701 DVB
PAS 8 DVB
Optus B3 DVB
EWTN Canada Galaxy 11 DVB
EWTN Europe Eurobird 1 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
PAS 3R DVB
Galaxy 11 DVB
EWTN Latin America PAS 9 DVB
Galaxy 11 DVB
EWTN Pacific Rim Galaxy 11 DVB
EWTN US Galaxy 11 DVB
Galaxy 15 NTSC
Eye Music Network AMC 10 Digicipher 2
Faith TV AMC 1 DVB
Familyland TV Network Agila 2 DVB
AMC 4 DVB
FamilyNet TV EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
FE TV Amazonas DVB
Florida Education Channel AMC 3 Digicipher 2
Florida Knowledge Network AMC 3 Digicipher 2
Florida Lottery AMC 3 Digicipher 2
FordStar Dealer Network
AMC 4 Digicipher 2
Fox News Channel Amos 2 DVB
Galaxy 15 NTSC
Fox Sports Middle East Eutelsat W2 DVB
Fox Sports Net Rocky Mountain EchoStar 7 DVB
Fuse EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
Future TV USA Badr C DVB
G4 Video Game TV East AMC 10 DVB
G4 Video Game TV West AMC 10 DVB
GameZnFlix Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Gavel to Gavel Alaska AMC 8 DVB
Gem Country AMC 3 DVB
Global TV Telkom 1 DVB
God's Learning Channel Insat 2E DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
AMC 4 DVB
Gol TV EchoStar 8 DVB
Golden Eagle Broadcasting AMC 4 DVB
Gospel Music Channel Galaxy 11 Digicipher 2
Gospel Music TV EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
GPTV PBS AMC 3 Digicipher 2
GünAz TV Telstar 12 DVB
Hakha TV
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
HBO HDTV West EchoStar 1 DVB - HD
HBO West EchoStar 1 DVB
HDTV Demo
EchoStar 3 DVB - HD
HITN-TV EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
Homa TV Hot Bird 6 DVB
Hope Channel AMC 4 DVB
Hope Channel Europe Hot Bird 6 DVB
Hope Channel International PAS 2 DVB
Optus B3 DVB
PAS 7 DVB
PAS 10 DVB
Horizon Armenian TV Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
HorseRacing TV Galaxy 11 DVB
HSN - Home Shopping Network Galaxy 3C DVB
AMC 10 NTSC
HSTV Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
HTV EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
I East AMC 1 DVB
I Mountain AMC 1 DVB
I Pacific AMC 1 DVB
ImaginAsian TV EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
INSP - The Inspiration Network Galaxy 15 NTSC
Inspiration Network International Eurobird 1 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
NSS 806 DVB
International Music Feed EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
IPN Hot Bird 2 DVB
IPTV News Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Iran TV Network Hot Bird 2 DVB
Intelsat Americas 8 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
IRS satellite Network Intelsat Americas 6 DVB
Jaam-e-Jam International Hot Bird 2 DVB
Intelsat Americas 8 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
JCTV Intelsat 701 DVB
Optus B3 DVB
Agila 2 DVB
PAS 10 DVB
Intelsat 906 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
Galaxy 15 Digicipher 2
Jetix Italia Eutelsat W2 DVB
Jewelry TV Galaxy 11 DVB
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 NTSC
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
JSTV - Jesus satellite TV EchoStar 3 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
KMT-LP
Galaxy 10R DVB
KBEH-TV AMC 1 Digicipher 2
KCBU-TV Galaxy 10R DVB
KCHF-TV Galaxy 4R DVB
KCSG-TV Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
KCWY-TV Galaxy 4R DVB
KEEN-LP AMC 1 DVB
KEGS-LP Galaxy 10R DVB
KET Star Channel 703 AMC 1 Digicipher 2
KET Star Channel 704 AMC 1 Digicipher 2
KET Star Channel 705 AMC 1 Digicipher 2
KEYU-LP
Galaxy 10R DVB
KFDF-CA
Galaxy 10R DVB
KHIZ-TV Galaxy 11 DVB
Kids & Teens TV AMC 4 DVB
KJLA-TV Galaxy 11 DVB
KKFQ-CA
Galaxy 10R DVB
KKTU-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
KLRA-LP
Galaxy 10R DVB
KLUZ-TV
Galaxy 11 DVB
KMCC-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
KMOH-TV
AMC 1 Digicipher 2
KPBI-CA Galaxy 10R DVB
KPOU-TV Galaxy 10R DVB
KQUP-TV Galaxy 10R DVB
KTEL-TV
AMC 5 DVB
KTLN-TV AMC 1 DVB
KTVC-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
KTWO-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
KUAC-TV AMC 8 DVB
KUEN-TV
AMC 5 DVB
KUIL-TV
AMC 4 DVB
KUKC-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
KUNS-LP
Galaxy 3C DVB
KUOK-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
Galaxy 10R DVB
KUTF-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
KUTH-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
KUTU-CA
Galaxy 3C DVB
KVMD-DT Galaxy 11 DVB
KWBF-TV Galaxy 10R DVB
KWBM-TV Galaxy 10R DVB
KWBS-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
KWFT-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
KWWF-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
KXLA-TV Galaxy 11 DVB
KXUN-LP
Galaxy 10R DVB
KYPX-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
La Familia TV Network Amazonas DVB
Lao BC Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Lawyers TV
AMC 4 DVB
Living Faith TV
Galaxy 4R DVB
LLBN TV AMC 4 DVB
LPB AMC 3 Digicipher 2
LPB Metro 21 AMC 3 Digicipher 2
Maharishi Open University US Telstar 11 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Markazi TV Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
MGM Korea Koreasat 2 DVB
MiracleNet JCSAT 3 DVB
Montana PBS
AMC 3 DVB
MTC Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
MTV Adria Amos 1 DVB
MTV Chi Galaxy 10R Digicipher 2
AMC 10 Digicipher 2
MTV China PAS 8 DVB
MTV Desi Galaxy 11 Digicipher 2
Galaxy 10R Digicipher 2
MTV Germany Astra 1E PAL
Astra 1G DVB
MTV Jams Galaxy 15 Digicipher 2
MTV Latino Sud Intelsat 805 DVB
MTV Russia Yamal 201 DVB
MTV Schweiz & Österreich Hot Bird 6 DVB
Más Música Galaxy 10R DVB
NASA Education Services AMC 6 DVB
AMC 7 DVB
NASA Media Services AMC 6 DVB
AMC 7 DVB
NASA Public Service AMC 6 DVB
AMC 7 DVB
NASA TV Intelsat 701 DVB
Optus B1 DVB
EchoStar 7 DVB
NAT TV Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
National Geographic Channel Europe Eutelsat W2 DVB
NBC Central AMC 4 DVB
NBC East AMC 4 DVB
NBC Mountain AMC 4 DVB
NBC News Channel AMC 1 DVB
NBC Pacific AMC 4 DVB
Neb*Sat 102 Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
Neb*Sat 103 Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
Neb*Sat 104 Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
Neb*Sat 105 Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
Neb*Sat 106 Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
Neb*Sat 107 Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
NET 1 Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
NET 2 Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
NET 3 Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
NET HD Intelsat Americas 5 Digicipher 2
New Screen TV AMC 10 Digicipher 2
New York State Legislature
AMC 1 DVB
NHL on OLN
Galaxy 11 DVB - HD
Nick Deutschland Astra 1C PAL
Astra 1G DVB
Astra 1H DVB
NITV - National Iranian TV Telstar 12 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
North West Cable News AMC 10 Digicipher 2
NTD TV NSS 6 DVB
Eutelsat W5 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
NYN - New York Network AMC 5 DVB
OBN EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
OETA AMC 5 Digicipher 2
Omid-e-Iran Hot Bird 2 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
ONN - Ohio News Network SBS 6 DVB
OTB - Off Track Betting AMC 5 DVB
Outdoor Channel 2HD Galaxy 10R DVB - HD
Pars TV Telstar 12 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Payam TV Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
PBS Adult Learning Service AMC 3 Digicipher 2
PBS HDTV AMC 3 DVB - HD
PBS Kids AMC 3 Digicipher 2
PBS X AMC 3 Digicipher 2
PBS X East AMC 3 Digicipher 2
AMC 3 DVB
Intelsat Americas 6 NTSC
AMC 4 NTSC
PBS X West AMC 3 Digicipher 2
AMC 3 DVB
PBS You AMC 3 Digicipher 2
PEN Hot Bird 2 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Pennsylvania Cable Network AMC 6 DVB
Pentagon Channel NSS 5 DVB
NSS 6 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Intelsat 10-02 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
AMC 1 DVB
Galaxy 10R DVB
PIN
Galaxy 11 Digicipher 2
Playboy One Eurobird 1 DVB
PNN - Persian News Network
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
PPV Guide
EchoStar 7 DVB
PPV Pre Order
EchoStar 6 DVB
Q TV Network EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
QVC Deutschland Astra 2C PAL
Astra 1G DVB
QVC Japan JCSAT 3 DVB
N-Sat 110 ISDB
QVC UK Astra 2B DVB
QVC US AMC 10 NTSC
Rang-A-Rang TV Telstar 12 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Raynham Park
Galaxy 3C DVB
ResearchChannel Galaxy 10R DVB
Retro Jams
Galaxy 10R DVB
RFD-TV Galaxy 13/Horizons 1 DVB
Ru Music PAS 4 DVB
SAC TV Network SatMex 5 DVB
Safe TV AMC 4 DVB
Safeway satellite Network AMC 1 DVB
Salaam TV Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Schedule 501 AMC 3 Digicipher 2
Schedule 502 AMC 3 Digicipher 2
Schedule 504 AMC 3 Digicipher 2
Schedule 505 AMC 3 Digicipher 2
Setanta Sports USA Amazonas DVB
SG Simulcast Home Channel
Intelsat 905 DVB
Shop At Home Galaxy 11 NTSC
ShopNBC Galaxy 15 NTSC
Smile of a Child Intelsat 701 DVB
Optus B3 DVB
Intelsat 906 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
Sorpresa EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
Southern Gospel Galaxy 10R DVB
Spirit AMC 3 DVB
Star TV Network Intelsat Americas 7 DVB
Starz West EchoStar 1 DVB
STEP Star Network Channel 501 Galaxy 10R DVB
STEP Star Network Channel 502 Galaxy 10R DVB
STN TV Badr C DVB
STV US Telstar 10 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
Super Channel AMC 4 DVB
T2 Hot Bird 4 DVB
Tamasha International Network Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
TAN TV 2 AMC 4 DVB
Tapesh TV Hot Bird 2 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
TBN Asia-South Pacific Optus B3 DVB
Agila 2 DVB
Palapa C2 DVB
TBN Enlace USA Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
TBN Europe Eurobird 1 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
TBN Italia Hot Bird 6 DVB
TBN Philippines Agila 2 DVB
TBN Rossiya Express AM 2 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Atlantic Bird 1 DVB
TBN US Intelsat 701 DVB
Intelsat 906 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
Galaxy 14 NTSC
TCM Brasil PAS 3R DVB
TCT Network Agila 2 DVB
Thaicom 3 DVB
PAS 7 DVB
PAS 10 DVB
Hot Bird 3 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
TeleGracia NSS 806 DVB
Thane Xpress Shop Badr 2 DVB
Nilesat 101 DVB
The Annenberg/CPB Channel AMC 3 Digicipher 2
The Beauty and Fashion Channel
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
The California Channel Galaxy 15 DVB
The Church Channel Intelsat 701 DVB
Optus B3 DVB
Agila 2 DVB
Intelsat 906 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
Galaxy 15 Digicipher 2
The Documentary Channel EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
The Golf Channel UK Eurobird 1 DVB
PAS 3R DVB
The Healing Channel Hot Bird 6 DVB
The HorseTV Channel AMC 10 Digicipher 2
The Learning Channel East AMC 11 Digicipher 2
The Liberty Channel AMC 1 DVB
The Men's Channel Galaxy 11 Digicipher 2
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
The Outdoor Channel East Galaxy 10R DVB
The Outdoor Channel West Galaxy 10R DVB
The Patient Channel AMC 3 DVB
The Prophetic Word Hot Bird 3 DVB
Eutelsat W3A DVB
Atlantic Bird 1 DVB
The Reformation Channel Galaxy 4R DVB
The Shepherd's Chapel Network Galaxy 4R NTSC
The Soundtrack Channel EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
The Sportsman Channel EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
The Tube Music Network AMC 3 DVB
The University Network AMC 3 NTSC
Intelsat Americas 6 DVB
The WB Central/Mountain Galaxy 11 DVB
The WB East Galaxy 11 DVB
The WB West Galaxy 11 DVB
The Word Network Thaicom 3 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Galaxy 11 DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
TiP TV AMC 3 DVB
TLN Cable AMC 1 DVB
TLN satellite AMC 1 DVB
Trinity Workplace Learning Galaxy 11 DVB
TV Auction Network
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
TV Guide PAS 9 Digicipher 1
TV Guide East Galaxy 15 Digicipher 2
TV Guide West Galaxy 15 Digicipher 2
TV Japan Intelsat Americas 7 DVB
TV Martí Hispasat 1C DVB
NSS 806 DVB
TV Orient Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
TV Superstore EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2
TVU AMC 3 DVB
TVW EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
UATV - Urban America TV Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
UCTV - University of California TV AMC 4 DVB
Ultimate Shopping Network EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
EchoStar 1 DVB
University of Alaska TV AMC 8 DVB
USDTV Guide Channel Galaxy 3C DVB
UWTV - University of Washington TV Galaxy 10R DVB
Veterans Affairs Knowledge Network 3 Galaxy 10R DVB
VH1 East Galaxy 11 Digicipher 2
VH1 Indonesia Palapa C2 DVB
Palapa C2 PAL
VoA TV Intelsat 701 DVB
AsiaSat 2 DVB
Hot Bird 3 DVB
Intelsat 907 DVB
NSS 806 DVB
Galaxy 3C DVB
VoA TV Africa NSS 703 DVB
VoA TV Europe Eutelsat W5 DVB
Hot Bird 3 DVB
VoA TV Latin America NSS 806 DVB
VoA TV Persian Hot Bird 3 DVB
Telstar 12 DVB
NSS 806 DVB
VPTV AMC 4 DVB
VSEN Henrico Anik F2 NTSC
VSEN Varina Anik F2 NTSC
VSEN Wise Anik F2 NTSC
Water Channel EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 DVB
WBIF-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
Galaxy 10R DVB
WBMM-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
WCFC-CA AMC 1 DVB
WealthTV Galaxy 13/Horizons 1 Digicipher 2
WGMU-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
WGNO-TV SBS 6 DVB
Wine Network Telstar 10 DVB
Eurobird 1 DVB
Telstar 12 DVB
WIPR-TV PAS 1R DVB
Wisebuyz TV
AMC 1 Digicipher 2
WKAQ-TV PAS 1R DVB
WLII-TV PAS 1R DVB
WMQF-TV Galaxy 10R DVB
WNGS-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
Galaxy 10R DVB
WNOL-TV SBS 6 DVB
WNYI-TV
Galaxy 10R DVB
World Harvest TV Galaxy 4R NTSC
Worship Network AMC 1 DVB
WPRU-TV Galaxy 4R DVB
WPXS-TV Galaxy 10R DVB
WRBJ-TV
AMC 6 DVB
WSJP-LP Galaxy 4R DVB
WTLE-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
WTXL-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
WUDT-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
WUMN-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
Galaxy 10R DVB
WUVF-TV
Galaxy 3C DVB
WVGN-LP Galaxy 4R DVB
WVXF-TV Galaxy 4R DVB
WYDN-TV AMC 3 DVB
WZRB-TV
AMC 6 DVB
Zee Cinema USA Intelsat 805 DVB
Zee TV USA Intelsat 904 DVB
Intelsat 805 DVB
EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13 Digicipher 2




Wrong Again, Each satellite servicing Europe provides free channels (Eutelsats, Telestars...)
German: 45 channels (Astra1, Hotbird)
Italian: 35 (Hotbird, Astra1, Eutelsat 2)
Arabic: 35 (Hotbird, Arabsat, Astra1)
English: 15 (Astra2, Hotbird, Astra1)
Spanish: 14 (Hotbird, Astra1)
Polish: 12 (Hotbird, Astra1, Eutelsat 3)
French: 10 (Astra1, Hotbird, Telecom 2D)
Persian: 4 (Hotbird)
Dutch: 4 (Hotbird, Astra1, Eutelsat 2)
Chinese: 3 (Hotbird, Thor)
Russian: 2 (Hotbird, Thor)
Greek: 2 (Hotbird)
Danish: 1 (Thor)

Out of those, even if one picks up a legal $20 dish without a motor and puts it in stationary position you can pick up at the least HotBird + one Astra sat.

SATX: I would suggest not arguing with the master of rigged satellite dish networks. Texas (and the USA don't offer much in this department)

BTW, if you dont pay you have nothing to watch works in the USA. In Europe its not hard to buy a dish + decoder card and receiver for cheap (think $50 for card and reciever) on the "grey market" and watch EVERYTHING for free including your favorite channel: Al-Jazeera. Hence, 90% of the people I know back home dont pay crock for extended TV service.

A normal dish in a retail store goes for 59zl=20USD. Hence I can spend around $70USD and I have 400 channels..and no monthly fee. If you want to do it monthly and feel good about yourself you pay 39zl=$12 a month and you get 400 channels.

+ That would equate to paying for NBC, CBS, ABC, UPN and WB...

I myself installed one of these in my room in Warsaw.



Except that mine runs on Polsat Cyfrowy not Cyfra + (Canal +)

The dish that I have set up is in a fixed position (but motorized dish of course) to receive Astra1 and HotBird satellites over continental Europe. I believe about 180-200 come off Astra1 and the rest off of HotBird. If I move the dish I can get Eutelsat W1, W3 + Telestar 12)

Just in itself free channels from Poland:

4 Fun TV Hot Bird 4 DVB
Edusat Hot Bird 7A DVB
Intelsat 10-02 DVB
ITV Hot Bird 7A DVB
Mango 24 Hot Bird 7A DVB
Podróze TV Hot Bird 6 DVB
Polonia 1 Hot Bird 7A DVB
Polsat 2 Optus B3 DVB
Hot Bird 6 DVB
Polsat Zdrowie i uroda Hot Bird 6 DVB
Tele 5 Hot Bird 7A DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
TMT Amos 1 DVB
TV Biznes Hot Bird 4 DVB
TV Polonia Astra 2C DVB
Hot Bird 7A DVB
Eutelsat W3A DVB
TV Polonia USA Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
TV Puls Hot Bird 6 DVB
TV TRWAM Astra 2C DVB
AMC 4 DVB
TVN Hot Bird 1 PAL
TVN Gra Hot Bird 7A DVB
TVP 3 Regionalna Astra 2C DVB
Intelsat Americas 5 DVB
TVP Kultura Astra 2C DVB
Hot Bird 7A DVB
Eutelsat W3A DVB
Viva Polska Hot Bird 6 DVB

My friend from Tangiers, Morocco has set to TurkSat, Arabsat (Astra1+Astra2 (It is actually a couple satellites but AFAIK they create the Astra2 network and are recognizable as 1...I believe most of the UK users use this, because sky uses it) and receives quite a load of CHANNELS on his TV. In this case, it is possible to even acquire a sky satellite (they own the system encoded on their "Videoguard" band from Astra2 sat) approved-decoder box and rigged card. Pretty amazing when your in the UK you know that your choice is to get sky or not to get sky with their receiver.

So what does this equate to SATX..

F*ck DirecTV and Dish Network. When I see these fools what they offer and at what price I laugh in their face, people in this country go like blind sheep and pay $100USD per month for idiotic TV service with no variety.

US satellite Market=Joke."


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16211 times:

Allrighty then, I'll refer you to my sales associate Peter Rolek.

I wash my hands of this matter now.  Wink

 airplane B4e-Forever New Frontiers airplane 


User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16204 times:

Hmm, looks like lots of good information there. If you do decide to go with DTV, one challenge you might run into is having it connected to a phone line to have it activated. You might want to set it up and connect it to a phone line here in the US when you call to have it activated, then after confirming it works OK you can take it Mexico.

User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16194 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 3):
If it's technically possible, I will buy the DirecTV equipment online and will pay DirecTV for its service, giving them my US billing address. My family that lives in Monterrey would like to have American DirecTV box in order to watch a specific channel which shows live Venezuelan TV 24/7.

Its possible to technically do almost anything in satellite business. Its a well guarded industry though in the USA because DirecTV and Dish both send out hostile signals down to receivers and can disable them thats why its harder to rig one compared to say a signal comming from a AstraSat.

Proud to say I got deeply immersed into this la la land of hacking into receivers when I was 16-17. It took me several weeks worth of reading and several hundred dollars of buying Sagem and Hughes receivers and rigged cards from Ukraine and Egypt that I finally could laugh at DirecTV. Certainly not as easy as hooking up a black box to your cable TV but it is definately do-able.

Oh yea, since you want Venezuela channels ill show you the free list that I can easily tune into, I dont know if you recognize any of these. You can easily pull these up for free:

LyngSat Free TV

Channel Name
Satellite Video
ATEL TV NSS 806 DVB
CMT Canal 51
PAS 1R DVB
Colombeia
NSS 806 DVB
ContacTV Apure
NSS 806 DVB
Globovisión NSS 806 DVB
LaTele NSS 806 DVB
MuchMusic Venezuela PAS 9 DVB
Promar TV Nahuel 1 DVB
Puma TV NSS 806 DVB
Telesur NSS 806 DVB


TRT Tachita
Nahuel 1 DVB
Venezolana de TV NSS 806 DVB
ViVe NSS 806 DVB

Here are the coordinates for satellites that broadcast to the North and South Americas and where to tune in. Notice DirecTV is also listed

North & South America

61.5°W EchoStar 3
61.5°W Rainbow 1
63.0°W Estrela do Sul 1
65.0°W Brasilsat B2
70.0°W Brasilsat B1
71.8°W Nahuel 1
72.0°W AMC 6
72.5°W DirecTV 1
74.0°W SBS 6
77.0°W EchoStar 4
77.0°W Galaxy 4R
79.0°W AMC 5
82.0°W Nimiq 2
83.0°W AMC 9
84.0°W Brasilsat B3
85.0°W AMC 2
85.1°W XM 3
87.0°W AMC 3
89.0°W Intelsat Americas 8
91.0°W Galaxy 11
91.0°W Nimiq 1
92.0°W Brasilsat B4
93.0°W Intelsat Americas 6
95.0°W Galaxy 3C
97.0°W Intelsat Americas 5
99.0°W Galaxy 16
99.2°W Spaceway 2
101.0°W DirecTV 1R/4S/8
101.0°W AMC 4
102.8°W Spaceway 1
103.0°W AMC 1
105.0°W AMC 15
107.3°W Anik F1
107.3°W Anik F1R
109.8°W DirecTV 5
110.0°W EchoStar 8
110.0°W EchoStar 10
111.1°W Anik F2
113.0°W SatMex 6
114.9°W Solidaridad 2
115.0°W XM Rock
116.8°W SatMex 5
118.8°W AMC 16
119.0°W EchoStar 7
119.0°W DirecTV 7S
121.0°W EchoStar 9/Intelsat Americas 13
123.0°W Galaxy 10R
125.0°W Galaxy 14
127.0°W Galaxy 13/Horizons 1
129.0°W EchoStar 5
129.0°W Intelsat Americas 7
131.0°W AMC 11
133.0°W Galaxy 15
135.0°W AMC 10
137.0°W AMC 7
139.0°W AMC 8
148.0°W EchoStar 1
148.0°W EchoStar 2

Oh yea, If you fancy Arab girls and German Porn. I suggest this. Its totally free and not coded and comes from T-Com. Yea the same company that provides der-Deutscher's their Phone service and runs your family network on T-Mobile in the USA.

10853 H
tp 117 T-Systems DVB 27500-3/4 318-11700
Europe N Schlammer
061019
Supreme Master TV 8604 32 34 E
Eurotic TV 8620 2982 2983
InXtc Dreamcrypt
Eurotic Plus 8622 2986 2987
Eurotic TV 2 8623 2988 2989
Sexy Arab
8624 2101 2102 A
E-Sat TV
8625 2103 2104 A
Eurotic Dream
8626 2105 2106 A
Juicy East
8627 2107 2108 A
Alo TV
8628 2109 2110 Tu
Arab Girls
8629 2111 2112 A


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 16188 times:

Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 6):
Allrighty then, I'll refer you to my sales associate Peter Rolek.

I wash my hands of this matter now.

B4e-Forever New Frontiers

Sales Associate? One time a guy from WideOpenWest (Im sure youre familiar with them since youre in Lake Zurich) came to check out what was wrong with our cable internet in our house. Walked into my room saw satellite equipment and boxes and said "I dont even want to know whats going on in here"


User currently offlineSolarix From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 16184 times:

Even in California and Florida people can pick up ExpressVu (Canada's provider), so I see no problems getting DirecTV or DN from MEX.

User currently offlineRAPCON From Puerto Rico, joined Jul 2006, 671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 16161 times:

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 3):
My family that lives in Monterrey would like to have American DirecTV box in order to watch a specific channel which shows live Venezuelan TV 24/7.

DirectTV only has ONE channel from VZ in its lineup. You have to get the basic package, then purchase SELECION EXTRA which is the expanded Spanish language package. The only VZ channel you get is "TV Venezuela" on Channel 409.

Let me give you some advice: IT'S NOT WORTH IT.



MODS CAN'T STOP ME....THEY CAN ONLY HOPE TO CONTAIN ME!!!
User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 16140 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 5):
We discussed this something like 2 years ago. this might interest you:

Very interesting LOT, thanks for the info.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 8):
Channel Name
Satellite Video
ATEL TV NSS 806 DVB
CMT Canal 51
PAS 1R DVB
Colombeia
NSS 806 DVB
ContacTV Apure
NSS 806 DVB
Globovisión NSS 806 DVB
LaTele NSS 806 DVB
MuchMusic Venezuela PAS 9 DVB
Promar TV Nahuel 1 DVB
Puma TV NSS 806 DVB
Telesur NSS 806 DVB

Those are exactly the channels that I would like to watch in Mexico!! I have some more questions, I will send them on a PM. Thanks for the tips.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 16129 times:

A nice receiver right here:

http://www.daveswebshop.com/dbs4550.shtml

A even nicer one:

http://www.unapit.com/Dreambox.html


User currently offlineRunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2173 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 16120 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 8):
Its possible to technically do almost anything in satellite business. Its a well guarded industry though in the USA because DirecTV and Dish both send out hostile signals down to receivers and can disable them thats why its harder to rig one compared to say a signal comming from a AstraSat.

You'd be better to check your facts before posting them as if you are the god of satellite.

Encryption is rarely done in house, and certainly Astra or Eutelsat (or any other satellite operator) does not change the equation. Their job is simply to operate the satellite, sell transponders (bandwidth).

How you encrypt your signal is up to the individual operator. Whilst most satellite operators in Europe license the encryption system (viacess and mediaguard being leaders in Europe). Some have either develloped something totally independently (Sky) [pretty much impossible to crack], whilst others who took up a system like viacess have soon discovered that it could be hacked by virtually anyone (eg. TPS with Viacess until very recently).

Quoting Solarix (Reply 10):
Even in California and Florida people can pick up ExpressVu (Canada's provider), so I see no problems getting DirecTV or DN from MEX.

The same is valid for CanalSatellite Antilles (from the French west indies) which can be picked up without much effort around Miami. The laws vary from country to country, a few years ago Canada was strictly enforcing no DirecTV (heavy fines and sometimes putting people in jail).

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 8):
Here are the coordinates for satellites that broadcast to the North and South Americas and where to tune in. Notice DirecTV is also listed

They might broadcast over North OR South America, but certainly not everywhere. Most of them are confined to a geographical area, that is without mentioning the earth's curbature.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 5):
Pretty amazing when your in the UK you know that your choice is to get sky or not to get sky with their receiver.

The UK market is not that different to the rest of Europe. Every market in Europe now is left with a single satellite provider (the final one was France, until last month).

The major difference between the UK and US is that most people have access to cable television (NTL/Telewest) and more importantly freeview. That is, digital terrestrial signals. The number of people with such a receiver has now surpassed Sky subscribers. People can still get all of BBC and ITV's channels for free on Astra 2 (not encrypted and C4/five are free to view which needs a sky receiver/card but no subscription).

The rest of Europe is quite similar, with quite a number of countries seeing a healthy upsurge in TV by ADSL.


User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2566 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 16112 times:

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 8):
Oh yea, since you want Venezuela channels ill show you the free list that I can easily tune into, I dont know if you recognize any of these. You can easily pull these up for free:

LyngSat Free TV

Channel Name
Satellite Video
ATEL TV NSS 806 DVB
CMT Canal 51
PAS 1R DVB
Colombeia
NSS 806 DVB
ContacTV Apure
NSS 806 DVB
Globovisión NSS 806 DVB
LaTele NSS 806 DVB
MuchMusic Venezuela PAS 9 DVB
Promar TV Nahuel 1 DVB
Puma TV NSS 806 DVB
Telesur NSS 806 DVB

LOT, if I understand correctly... to get these channels I do NOT need to break any encryption, right?

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 16100 times:

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 14):
You'd be better to check your facts before posting them as if you are the god of satellite.

Encryption is rarely done in house, and certainly Astra or Eutelsat (or any other satellite operator) does not change the equation. Their job is simply to operate the satellite, sell transponders (bandwidth).

How you encrypt your signal is up to the individual operator. Whilst most satellite operators in Europe license the encryption system (viacess and mediaguard being leaders in Europe). Some have either develloped something totally independently (Sky) [pretty much impossible to crack], whilst others who took up a system like viacess have soon discovered that it could be hacked by virtually anyone (eg. TPS with Viacess until very recently).

1. Who said it is not done in house? DirecTV has their own Satellites. They do not use another companies satellite like Sky or Canal+. You dont even know what the hell you are saying. Youre right about Europe, but certainly not about the USA. There is no one to license the coding to because they own their own blimps in the sky. The situation is not like say Cyfra + in Poland who uses Hotbird (Eutelsat), or in the UK where Sky uses Astra 1. DirecTV uses DirecTV dishes. Here:

Satellite fleet
Satellite Orbital slot Launch date Satellite type
DirecTV-1 110.0° W December 17, 1993 Hughes Electronics HS-601
DirecTV-2 100.8° W August 3, 1994 Hughes Electronics HS-601
DirecTV-1R 100.8° W October 10, 1999 Hughes Electronics HS-601HP
DirecTV-4S 101.2° W November 27, 2001 Hughes Electronics HS-601HP
DirecTV-5 72.5° W May 7, 2002 Space Systems/Loral LS-1300
DirecTV-6 109.8° W March 8, 1997 Space Systems/Loral LS-1300
DirecTV-7S 119.0° W May 4, 2004 Space Systems/Loral LS-1300
DirecTV-8 101.0° W May 22, 2005 Space Systems/Loral LS-1300
DirecTV-9S TBD (est.) October 12, 2006 Space Systems/Loral LS-1300
SPACEWAY-1 102.8° W April 26, 2005 Boeing BSS-702
SPACEWAY-2 99.2° W November 16, 2005 Boeing BSS-702
DirecTV-10 TBD (est.) 2007 Boeing BSS-702
DirecTV-11 TBD (est.) 2007 Boeing BSS-702
DirecTV-12 TBD (est.) 2007 Boeing BSS-702

Same goes for Dish Network and their EchoStar satellites (company that owns Dish)

2. All of Astra 2 is Sky subscriptions, continental Europe runs Hotbird and Astra1 so I dont even see the point youre making. Skys receivers are geared practically all for Astra 2, and I CANNOT think of any other market except GB where its nearly impossible to break into. And I quote:

"A CAM is thus geared towards one or another encoding standard. But not all such standards have CAMs. Sky Digital, the British company that dominates the UK market using its Videoguard encoding system, has blocked the development of CAMs for that system, and only allows Videoguard decoder elements to be integrated into receivers built to its detailed specifications (these receivers are commonly called 'Digiboxes', and are made by different manufacturers, but thus quite similar). One of these is that the receiver does not have any CI for any other decoder element than Sky's (in fact, they are not really geared for anything other than Astra 2 and the Sky pacakge at all). In this way, the Sky satellite channel (the provider) and the receiver manufacturers have almost completely merged into a fairly tight monopoly that would make it very difficult for a competitor to break into the market. That is particular for Britain, however, no other similar situation exists in Europe. "

I can only think of practically Viaccess, Cryptoworks, Nagravision, Conax, Mediaguard and Irdeto etc etc all which have CAM slots and Videoguard which does not. However, Sky owns Videoguard and the others are not owned so they are relatively easy (and i say that lightly) to jack into. Of course you can just get a non-videoguard outfit if youre in the UK/ireland and skip the game..

Before you say Sky Italia or OTE Greece..same thing owned by News corp. and running NDS Videoguard...but for practical reasons same company.
So I cant think of many lineups that you cant get into..except Sky and other partners owned by News Corp. It should be noted that SkyItalia was forced to have their Set top boxes read other providers cards becuase of Italian laws.

3. It is possible to crack into a Videoguard system. You're a FOOL if you think its not possible to hack into Sky's systems. Anything is possible and even this. You rewire the box and re-fit it so it can take regular CAM cards. Read about it here: http://experts.about.com/e/v/vi/videoguard.htm

Hard to do, Expensive to do, but it is possible to make Sky crap their pants also. I hope you remember when BskyB supplied cards to DirecTV in the mid-90s and didnt put half the damn alogorithim code in and directv hacking was the craze.

A good article about this one http://www.answers.com/topic/pirate-decryption

Quoting Runway23 (Reply 14):
The UK market is not that different to the rest of Europe. Every market in Europe now is left with a single satellite provider (the final one was France, until last month).

Wrong, Poland has 2x operators. Cyfra + and Polsat Cyfrowy. Check again your facts before you make an assumption. I dont even know where you got the idea that France was the last one.

Enlighten me on the situation with Viasat and Telenor/Canal Digital competition in Scandinavia...AFAIK both compete against each other and have lineups which go head to head in the same markets.

So the situation in the USA is that DirecTV remakes their cards every 2 years and are on something like their 5th generation of cards so it is hard to keep up.


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