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User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2501 times:

The Israeli military claims that there were "two militants hiding between them" but pictures show that this is bullshit.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...08-6AF0-466F-ADD8-02B9882B46CB.htm

http://www.arabmonitor.info/news/dettaglio.php?idnews=16235&lang=en

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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2498 times:

qr,

How about this:

"who were seeking to serve as human shields for Hamas militants holed up in a Gaza mosque on Friday after an overnight standoff. The troops fired on a crowd of women and at least a few men as they marched to the mosque."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/04/wo...st.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin


User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2493 times:

ALJAZEERA?????!!!!! please, you can do better than this. posting a reference from aljazeera is ridiculous.

Cheers,
Kyle


User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5032 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2484 times:

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 2):
ALJAZEERA?????!!!!! please, you can do better than this. posting a reference from aljazeera is ridiculous.

Why? They're no more biased than say, Fox.


User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2485 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 1):
"who were seeking to serve as human shields for Hamas militants holed up in a Gaza mosque on Friday after an overnight standoff. The troops fired on a crowd of women and at least a few men as they marched to the mosque."

As claimed by the IDF, who sure as hell would want to cover their asses, don't you think? They also claimed men were hiding between them, but there were none as proved by pictures and footage from the scene. Funny how your article doesn't mention this.

Also, if you read the Aljazeera link, one of the injured said they had gone to see what happened to their captured sons, who were supposed to be released... regardless of what happened, what the hell was Israel doing firing at women in the first place?

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 2):
ALJAZEERA?????!!!!! please, you can do better than this. posting a reference from aljazeera is ridiculous.

Why? They are much more objective than the US media, and those are simply two eyewitness accounts. Have you ever watch Aljazeera or read the articles on their website?

http://english.aljazeera.net


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2485 times:

The fact that they are/where women is illrelevent to the fact they where shot trying to help terrorists escape.

They chose to be human shields they can live with the consequences of their poor decision making.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2475 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 5):
The fact that they are/where women is illrelevent to the fact they where shot trying to help terrorists escape.

What proof do you have that these men are terrorists? Fighting occupation forces inside the Gaza Strip hardly qualifies as terrorism.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2475 times:

Quoting QR332 (Reply 6):
What proof do you have that these men are terrorists

What proof do you have that the were not?


User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2468 times:

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 3):
Why? They're no more biased than say, Fox.



Quoting QR332 (Reply 4):
Why? They are much more objective than the US media, and those are simply two eyewitness accounts. Have you ever watch Aljazeera or read the articles on their website?

Oh please. Everyone knows that most of the Islamic world is dead-set against Israel, and Al Jazeera is the front. Saying that Al Jazeera is objective when speaking of Israel is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard.


User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2468 times:

Quoting QR332 (Reply 6):
What proof do you have that these men are terrorists? Fighting occupation forces inside the Gaza Strip hardly qualifies as terrorism.



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 1):
Hamas militants

= terrorists.

Thank you very much.

Cheers,
Kyle


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2468 times:

Quoting QR332 (Reply 6):
Fighting occupation forces inside the Gaza Strip hardly qualifies as terrorism.

Lets pretend for a second they wheren't, (I don't believe that for a second) It still doesn't get around the fact they chose to act as human sheilds.

Makes them fair game IMHO.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2455 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 7):
What proof do you have that the were not?

The fact that they were being fought for resisting IDF forces.

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 8):
Oh please. Everyone knows that most of the Islamic world is dead-set against Israel, and Al Jazeera is the front. Saying that Al Jazeera is objective when speaking of Israel is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Only those who are shallow enough to believe everything that comes out of Dumsfeld's mouth without trying to look at things themselves. Look at the website and then tell me how biased it is.

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 9):
= terrorists.

Thank you very much.

If they were bombing something within Israel, then yes, as long as they are fighting Israel in the Gaza Strip, no.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 10):
Lets pretend for a second they wheren't, (I don't believe that for a second) It still doesn't get around the fact they chose to act as human sheilds.

Makes them fair game IMHO.

We don't know the full story yet, there was mention of captured men who were supposed to be released... don't forget that. And Israel claims it fired because there were men hiding between them, something that was proved to be untrue... Also, the women raised white flags according to one of the injured, they were trying to stop the fighting, not get themselves killed. The least the IDF could have done was fire warning shots.


User currently offlineDamirc From Slovenia, joined Feb 2004, 726 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2456 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 7):
What proof do you have that the were not?

I'm sorry. I thought that the west believes in the principle 'innocent until proven guilty'.

Israel, however, seems to believe in the 'let's shoot them all and let god sort them out' doctrine.

Israel killed at least 36 people in the past 4 days, arrested some 2000 young men yesterday - and the world stands by. Remember, that not too long ago Israel attacked Lebanon because of 2 abducted young men.

Not newsworthy I guess. We all know that there will be a suicide attack in revenge ... that will be newsworthy and it will show us the endless suffering of Israeli people.

D.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2449 times:

"Women gathered at the site shortly after a call on Hamas radio urged women and children to protest outside the mosque in Beit Hanoun"

and:

Annan urged Israel "to exercise maximum restraint" and do its "utmost to protect civilians."


But the reason behind all this?
He [Annan] also urged "Palestinian militants to stop firing rockets against Israeli civilian targets."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/03/mideast.violence/index.html


User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2442 times:

Quoting QR332 (Reply 11):
Only those who are shallow enough to believe everything that comes out of Dumsfeld's mouth without trying to look at things themselves. Look at the website and then tell me how biased it is.

Rumsfeld? I really don't see any connection here at all.

Quoting QR332 (Reply 11):
We don't know the full story yet,

Agreed. Let's get all the facts before we start speculation.

Cheers,
Kyle


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2430 times:

Quoting QR332 (Reply 11):
Also, the women raised white flags

White Flags have a nasty habit of instead of being a warning of placity instead being a lure to bring something in for the kill.

If somebody is approaching you waving one, the soldier needs to exercise extreme caution.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2430 times:

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 14):
Let's get all the facts before we start speculation

Please, we already know the story...

Israel Bad, Arabs poor innocents who never do anything wrong.

How many posts will this tirade get...300 of the same insults, accusations, and revisionist history lessons from both sides....What is the friggen point...how about a resolution, or would everyone be happier on a Saturday afternoon just creating more tension?


User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2424 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 13):
"Women gathered at the site shortly after a call on Hamas radio urged women and children to protest outside the mosque in Beit Hanoun"

The children part is new to me, every other article only mentioned a plea for people to protest what was happening.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 13):
Annan urged Israel "to exercise maximum restraint" and do its "utmost to protect civilians."

And his words are magically going to bring to life the dozens that have died in just 3 days, many of them civilians...

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 13):
He [Annan] also urged "Palestinian militants to stop firing rockets against Israeli civilian targets."

What do people expect? They starved Gaza during the summer and are still regularly attacking it whenever they feel like it, do they seriously expect people to not try to get back at them?

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 14):
Rumsfeld? I really don't see any connection here at all.

He kept going on about Aljazeera being pro-Taliban during the Afghanistan war and then went on to say they were pro-Saddam during the Iraq war... ironic thing is that Saddam kicked them out for being too pro-Western and Zaraqawi later threatened to bomb them for being to pro-Western.

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 14):
Agreed. Let's get all the facts before we start speculation.

Some facts are pretty clear so far, and these are that no militants were between the woman when they were fired on.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):
White Flags have a nasty habit of instead of being a warning of placity instead being a lure to bring something in for the kill.

If somebody is approaching you waving one, the soldier needs to exercise extreme caution.

I understand this, but there were 30-40 unarmed women; firing at them without at least firing warning shots is completely wrong.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 16):
How many posts will this tirade get...300 of the same insults, accusations, and revisionist history lessons from both sides....What is the friggen point...how about a resolution, or would everyone be happier on a Saturday afternoon just creating more tension?

A resolution isn't going to be reached on A.Net, and I just posted this to bring more attention to Israel's most recent adventure in Gaza.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2418 times:

Quoting QR332 (Reply 17):
A resolution isn't going to be reached on A.Net, and I just posted this to bring more attention to Israel's most recent adventure in Gaza.

But by doing so, you are also pointing out that the Militants/Hamas are no angels either.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2415 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 13):
Women gathered at the site shortly after a call on Hamas radio urged women and children to protest outside the mosque in Beit Hanoun"

Well any claims that they where simply innocent bystanders just went bye-bye.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2415 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 16):
Israel Bad, Arabs poor innocents who never do anything wrong.

I agree. The amount of Israel-bashing on this site is apalling.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 18):

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Cheers,
Kyle


User currently offline7474ever From Israel, joined Oct 2006, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2398 times:

Quoting QR332 (Reply 6):
Fighting occupation forces inside the Gaza Strip hardly qualifies as terrorism.

Well, why don't you mention that Israel pulled out of Gaza last august but Hamas never stopped fireing rockets since then ? In other words - there are no "occupation forces" in Gaza ?

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 13):
He [Annan] also urged "Palestinian militants to stop firing rockets against Israeli civilian targets."

Stop fireing - won't be IDF soldiers inside Gaza. You fail to realize that fact - or simply ignore it.


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2398 times:

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 20):
I agree. The amount of Israel-bashing on this site is apalling.

The amount of Israel-bashing outside the United States is apalling. The United States is the only friend in this world that Israel has....


User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Boo-effing-hoo

I feel so sad that US is the only friend Israel got with all fighterjets ammo etc etc from US,  Yeah sure but otoh the zionists extremists are as bad as Hamas. Israel Army is doing everything to push Palestine into the sea and this Berlin wall......pleaseee!!

Personly I don´t give a sheiz about Israel.

My   

Micke//   

[Edited 2006-11-04 22:52:01]


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User currently offlineQR332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 18):
But by doing so, you are also pointing out that the Militants/Hamas are no angels either.

I don't believe them to be angels, both sides can be monsters, but only one is driven by desperation. The other is driven by greed for land.

Quoting 7474ever (Reply 21):
Well, why don't you mention that Israel pulled out of Gaza last august but Hamas never stopped fireing rockets since then ? In other words - there are no "occupation forces" in Gaza ?

Because all they did was move the settlers out and remove the checkpoints... they still bombed Gaza whenever they felt the need and did whatever they wanted to. The pullout was nothing more than PR, and need I remind you that Hamas, as an organization, only started firing rockets after the incident in which family on the beach, during an Israeli offensive in the Gaza Strip? As soon as Hamas was elected in, all hell broke loose.

Quoting 7474ever (Reply 21):
Stop fireing - won't be IDF soldiers inside Gaza. You fail to realize that fact - or simply ignore it.

As was proved time and time again, right?  Yeah sure

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 22):
The amount of Israel-bashing outside the United States is apalling. The United States is the only friend in this world that Israel has....

For a very good reason, RJ... and the US are only friends with US because of the amount of garbage you are fed daily by your media.


25 Dtwclipper : Either I'm missing something in the translation or you somehow missed the point.....
26 VC10 : quote=QR332,reply=24]Hamas, as an organization, only started firing rockets after the incident in which family on the beach, during an Israeli offensi
27 Dtwclipper : Which is which?
28 Post contains images Springbok747 : Well...most of the US and the western world (save a few Europeans) doesn't give a s*it about some terrorists and the women who were trying to act as
29 Post contains images RJpieces : Of course. Because that is going to deal with the fact that millions of Arabs hate the US, hate each other, don't have jobs, don't produce anything o
30 Post contains images QR332 : The incident I am referring to occurred before the summer, the soldiers were kidnapped after the incident; several incidents had already occurred by
31 VC10 : But that is the trouble the list of incidents go back 60 years and there are people on both sides with long memories. Some where and sometime a line
32 Keesje : I this all had taken place in the US against intruders, how would we see this, brave? I think using the word "terrorism" for everything these days is
33 Post contains images Speedbird747BA : Why doesnt the Middle East get over itself? Israel whooped ass in the Yom-Kippur War, the 6-day War, the 1956 Suez War, and the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.
34 Scorpio : Oh really? Everyone knows huh? What you know, or think you know, is simply what your media want you to know. Have you ever even watched Al Jazeera? O
35 Speedbird747BA : Answer me this, is Al Jazeera an Arab, or Muslim venture? Cheers, Kyle
36 Scorpio : Arab, though I fail to see what that has to do with anything.
37 Speedbird747BA : And the Arabs, generally, as a whole, tend to dislike Israel, don't they? Just answer the question. One word please. Cheers, Kyle
38 Post contains images Damirc : He's trying to prove, that every side has their agenda, thereby managing to prove that the other side has an agenda also Anyway. The history of the c
39 ShakeZulaNJ : Oh goody goody gum drops, another colorful Israel/Arab thread with the usual suspects. I like these. Lots of bashing on both sides, and if this thread
40 Speedbird747BA : Well, they couldnt manage that too well did they? The Palestinians never miss a chance to miss a chance. Cheers, Kyle
41 Damirc : What chance are we talking about? And Israel, while being very eloquent in it's press releases is not exactly helping the situation. Oh. And when wil
42 Scorpio : Oh come on? THAT is your reason to say that Al Jazeera is at the forefront of the battle against Israel? The simple fact that they are Arab? That's j
43 Speedbird747BA : What are you talking about? The Palestinians have been given plent, plenty of chances. They were given a chance when Israel forced JEWS out the Gaza
44 Damirc : Read about the subject and then come back. Mhm. Name one which didn't make them lose something more - in return for the goodwill of Israel. :P D.
45 Speedbird747BA : Your naivete is disturbing. Were not talking about the US media here. By and large, they are corrupt, bias, and rather stupid. And I tend to like the
46 Post contains images Scorpio : Don't remember the last time a high school kid told me that, much less one who seems to think (based on what you've written here so far) the whole ex
47 Post contains links Damirc : To reply again ... I mean these settlements: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d8/Westbankjan06.jpg D.
48 Post contains images Bravo45 : Oh so why don't you tell me what the hell do you know about Al-Jazeera first hand. To begin with, are you proficient in Arabic?? Huh!!! Though I am b
49 VANGUARD737 : It is amazing how many of you are brainwashed into believing the Islamofacists that Israel and the USA arew the root of all evil, especially Europeans
50 Post contains links Allstarflyer : Which did happen to report the incident . . . http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,227538,00.html . . . but, just because a particular article doesn't
51 Post contains images Speedbird747BA : OK, point taken. I'm young. Now, first, I don't think the current situation in the ME comes down to one being right, one wrong. I happen to know, how
52 Post contains images Bravo45 : huh! WHAT!!!! So just my asking this question equals defending Al Jazeera??? Jeez!!
53 Scorpio : I'm going to follow Bravo45 on this one. Another example of just how simplistic your view is. This conflict didn't just suddenly start because 'the A
54 Post contains links Damirc : Well, if you wish to read ... http://www.psqonline.org/cgi-bin/99_...bmonth=summer&a=01free&format=view A very interesting analysis of why the Camp D
55 Damirc : It is somewhat ironic to read such a rant ... You've extrapolated from our criticism of Israel that anyone wants to hand over anything to 'Islamofasc
56 EK156 : RJpieces I have learnt to skip any of your posts cause they are always full of hatred towards the Arabs and/or Muslims. You always tend to generalize
57 Post contains links ME AVN FAN : why ? www.english.aljazeera.net is as good a source as BBC, SkyNews or CNN -- nothing ridiculous at all. - The NYT article simply being the position
58 Speedbird747BA : Simplistic would not have been grammatically correct in my sentence. I would have classified the acts before the American Revolution terrorism. I hav
59 QR332 : You do know that there was no PLO in 1948, right? The 1948 war started because Israel declared its independence on Palestinian land and then proceede
60 Post contains images Dtwclipper : Oh cool, why don't you bring out your maps again, and I'll bring out my source materials on land purchased prior to '48. It's soooo much fun when we
61 VANGUARD737 : You, sir, simply contribute to the rubbish spewing fromt the lips of Islamofacists that the West is to blame for all problems of the Muslim world, an
62 Post contains images QR332 :
63 Scorpio : No you haven't. You've given us a recital of the wars Israel has won, something I'm sure everyone here already knew about anyway, and it goes nowhere
64 Windshear : Excuse me people, but CNN showed footage of the millitant men hiding in women burkas! This was a stunt to avoid capture... Again CNN international sho
65 ME AVN FAN : The PLO was founded in 1964 as an umbrella organisation for the various Palestinian resistance / liberation organisations. el-Fatah btw. was establis
66 Windshear : double post Boaz.[Edited 2006-11-05 19:56:29]
67 Post contains images Windshear : Very irrelevant, it is the same primitive slogan also heard from Lebanon, can't women be criminal? For G-d sakes Yassin released a fatwa allowing fem
68 Post contains images Windshear : Haha look at this picture from Al Jazeera... There is a man standing right next to the women: This is not the shot I saw on CNN, but just look at the
69 VANGUARD737 : WINDSHEAR You have no idea what a breath of fresh air it is to find sensible people who are not afraid to stand up for whats right instead of trying t
70 DLPMMM : Hamas and Hezbollah "fighters" make a regular habit of hiding behind woman's dresses. This is because they are actually craven cowards with no regard
71 L410Turbolet : Classic example of self-flagellating Euro-lefty apologism.
72 Damirc : So what is your theory why terrorism exists, and how it came to be? Boring Sunday maybe? D.
73 VANGUARD737 : I am so sick of people trying to put the blame for the actions on terrorists upon the very people suffering from those actions. By that logic Poland
74 ME AVN FAN : a spearhead of Israel-hugging ? To see how any criticizm against Israel is declared to be "Israel-bashing" is sickening. While you blame everything o
75 Post contains links Cairo : You mean America is the only "friend"* Israel has managed to purchase. If there was no Israeli lobbyist allowed to see an American official, and inst
76 Baroque : The way western media are going (for example take the BEEB post Gilligan and the Hutton report), Al Jazeera will inherit the earth, because the rest
77 Post contains images Baroque : * + To add to that excellent summary, previously, the BBC had a set of excellent maps - they were done pre-Hutton, but now seem to have disappeared. I
78 Rolfen : Nothing new... nothing new Ooops, said the israeli crew An investigation will be launched, said the israeli general
79 EK156 : It's funny how all Pro-Israeli A.Netters keep on bashing the Hell out of Hamas & Hizbullah when Israel and its action are the ones who led to the cre
80 Damirc : I asked for your alternative theories - and you failed to provide even one alternative theory. Serve up or shut up. Different logics apply to differe
81 L410Turbolet : Could the cause of terrorism be that lovely "religion of peace" aka Islam???
82 Damirc : Maybe the radical interpretation of the Quran by a few select imams. But certainly not the religion as such. Or do you claim we have a billion terror
83 EK156 : You ignorance just made me understand that you are one of those who are easily brainwashed by anti-islamic and anti-arab entities that live on the mi
84 L410Turbolet : Does it not? I'm sure someone will provide plenty of quotes from Koran. The sad truth is that Islam apparently is incapable to coexist with other rel
85 Scorpio : And I'm so sick and tired of people who immediately try to label anyone who dares to question Israel's policies, or who dares to look farther than th
86 Damirc : Bosnian Muslims were perfectly capable of living in unison with different religions ... And to my best knowledge up until recently Muslims were livin
87 Rolfen : None. People are innocent until proven guilty. They should not have been shot unless they could have clearly proved that they were guilty of some cri
88 L410Turbolet : I agree, the EU should stop that ridiculous "sponsor your own Palestinian terrorist" scheme by wasting billions of Euros supporting corrupt PA and go
89 Rolfen : Some fanatics which are totally unrelated to palestinians burn some embassies over some stupid cartoons. On the other hand, the israeli army destroye
90 ME AVN FAN : NO - but religions often get used by zealots as "justification" of whatever. So, NOT "the cause" at all. -
91 Post contains images Dtwclipper : Ya know Cairo, sometimes you need to lighten up a bit....here is the full quote directed at QR: And QR's response who understood the humour intended.
92 ME AVN FAN : - you mean quotes like the following ones : - Al-Baqara (The Cow) 2:62 VERILY, those who have attained to faith [in this divine writ], as well as tho
93 Post contains images Baroque : Indeed, if you want more Salafi Islam, just leave it to the Saudis. I guess L410TL does not chose to read in other threads issues that do not suit hi
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