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I Get Sandwiched And The Ticket!  
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

Sorry but I have to vent....for the 1st time in my life I have gotten a traffic ticket. $100 bucks and four points for following too close.

Well the short story is that today I get rear ended at a stop light, and pushed by the person behind me into the car in front of me. Basicly a sandwich job on my truck. My front bumper and grill are tweaked, horn won't shut off, airbags blown on the front. And in the back my bumper is tweaked and the frame has about a 10-15 degree bend in it between the rear axle and the rear spring hanger. Needless to say with that bend where it is, I can't drive it because the rear end isn't sitting right. The Kia Sportage that ran into my rear end got the worse-messed up front end and punchured rad.

The girl in the car is still on her dads insurance so she calls him to get the paperwork very upset. Cops show up and ask for witnesses, can't find any. Daddy shows up about half an hour to fourty five minutes later with the insurance. He starts playing CSI. Dad claims that a skid about 6 feet behind her car is from my truck (Why brakes would only leave one not two skid marks is beyond me). Dad disappears for a little while why the rest of us exchange insurance. Dad reappears and claims to have a witness that saw the accident. The cop goes talk to 'the witness' and based on that and that skid mark, decided to tag both myself and the girl for following too close. The witness claims that I hit the car in front first and then she ran into me. This of course is different then I remember. I remember being thrown back by the force of the impact into my rear and then forward when I impacted the car in front of me. In fact my face never made contact with the airbags, which I am convinced I would have if I hit them first....something about a body in motion will remain in motion. I also think the damage pattern fits my explaination, heavy in the rear from the first impact and then less on the slower and later front impact.

I have no idea who this witness is, where he was or what he exactly saw but he took the dad's version and decided that is what happens. I guess I'll find that out Tuesday or Wendsday when I will stop by and pick up their report.

I don't see where I have any other choice but to fight this.....In the State of Alaska you shouldn't be ticketed for following too close expectially when the Kia that rear ends you hits hard enought to bend your frame by about 10-15 degrees.


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
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User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Oh boy. Sounds like 2 victims for a lawsuit, instead of one. Good luck. How's the neck?


Yay Pudding!
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Who wrote the ticket? APD? Troopers?

Who is the "Dad"? And where did this witness come from? CPT Kirk beam the witness down?

What were road conditions? Were you stopped at the light? What intersection?

If happened like you tell it, I'd fight it. Sounds like someone (the "Dad") has a few $$$ or might know someone and is trying to cover his daughters ass.

If you ask for a hearing on the ticket, Dad, Daughter, Witness, Cop all have to show up. If that "witness" is a put up job likely won't show. Case dismissed. Might cost you a few dollars in court costs, but you won't have any points on your license.


User currently offlineNancy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 467 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

The weird thing is the daughter didn't do anything- if she's going to sue she can sue the guyinthe Kia. Is it possible to have an expert look at your car and make a determination?

User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2254 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Might cost you a few dollars in court costs, but you won't have any points on your license.

Shouldnt he win his court costs back, afterall he is fighting to clear his name which should be free if he wins...



Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
User currently offlineKazzie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2225 times:

Looks like we are in the same boat!

I got a letter yesterday morning about my incident earlier in the week, the guy who i was pushed into is now trying to point the finger at me for running into him when I was pushed into him....

I have it covered though... At the moment i have a lot more to worry about! and now i have to get all this paperwork out of the way and take my pain killers!  Sad


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2200 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Who wrote the ticket? APD? Troopers?

APD.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Were you stopped at the light? What intersection?

5th and Hyder.

Quoting Nancy (Reply 3):
The weird thing is the daughter didn't do anything-

She was the one in the KIA. The KIA that hit my truck hard enough to bend the frame of my truck.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Who is the "Dad"? And where did this witness come from?

Dad is the Kia drivers father, he showed up after the accident, because she didn't have the insurance information with her, he had it (She was on his policy) . He is also the one that was running around and found this alleged "witness"

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
What were road conditions? Were you stopped at the light?

Cold and Clear down here. It was about 2 so it was a quartering light from the front.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Who is the "Dad"? And where did this witness come from?



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
If you ask for a hearing on the ticket, Dad, Daughter, Witness, Cop all have to show up. If that "witness" is a put up job likely won't show. Case dismissed. Might cost you a few dollars in court costs, but you won't have any points on your license.

Boy I really want to, but I want to see the case file, I don't have copies of the photos they took, I want to see what that file says before I make a decision.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2176 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):
Dad is the Kia drivers father, he showed up after the accident, because she didn't have the insurance information with her, he had it (She was on his policy) . He is also the one that was running around and found this alleged "witness"

This I knew - I was searching for a name . . . .

Still, until you see the file, I wouldn't do shit. They HAVE to give you a copy of the entire thing. Get that and make your decision.


User currently offlineBristolFlyer From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 2296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
If happened like you tell it, I'd fight it. Sounds like someone (the "Dad") has a few $$$ or might know someone and is trying to cover his daughters ass.

My thoughts entirely. The way you've described it, it sounds very suspicious. I would assume it's a crime on both the father's part and the phoney 'witness' if he's lying. I know that in the UK statements from witnesses who personally know any of the parties involved are treated with suspicion (or even dismissed).

Did you take pics? Did the skidmark line up with where your wheels would have been? And did the tread patterns match?

BTW this:

Quoting L-188 (Thread starter):
This of course is different then I remember

...sounds like you're not convinced about what happened (unless you're being sarcastic). Hopefully you can remember the details in their entirity.



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