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The End Of "speed Limit"?  
User currently offlinePalladium From Indonesia, joined Apr 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

Who is here agree with me that "SPEED LIMIT" on US Interstate should be lifted ?

Speed limit is soo lame... and they should get rid of the speed limit rules on the US Interstate. I don't mind having speed limit on school zone, city roads, but on Interstate ?

US Interstate speed limit is between 60MPH - 70MPH that's like 97km/h to 110km/h and that's too freaking slow. With this kind of speed limit, people will feel sleepy while they driving. and that could result in accident.

Now try this, if there is no SPEED LIMIT, people will drive faster and they tend to concentrate more on the road and I will bet you 1000000$$ they won't feel sleepy.

I tried this before, whenever I feel sleepy, I drive faster and suddenly i dont feel sleepy anymore 'cos I my brain and eyes suddenly tend to concentrate on the road.

And I don't think with or without speed limit will reduce the number of accident. They are the same.

what are you guys thought?

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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
I tried this before, whenever I feel sleepy, I drive faster and suddenly i dont feel sleepy anymore 'cos I my brain and eyes suddenly tend to concentrate on the road.

You're going to kill someone. Hopefully just yourself.


User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
what are you guys thought?

Get a radar detector, there's not a chance in hell they'll lift the speed limits.



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User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5199 times:

Most people tend to pull over whenever they are feeling sleepy. Preferably to catch some shut eye at a hotel/lay by?! Not drive faster!!

I think speed limits save lives. They wouldn't be enforced if they had no purpose.

- Justin  Smile


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5200 times:

Montana and I believe Nevada had a resonable and prudent speed limit on the interstates back in the 70's. But here is a news flash, the majority of American drivers DO NOT have the necessary driving skills to travel at 100+ MPH. Lets see talking on a cell phone, eating a Big Mac, text messaging while traveling at a high rate of speed = disaster.

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
I tried this before, whenever I feel sleepy, I drive faster and suddenly i dont feel sleepy anymore 'cos I my brain and eyes suddenly tend to concentrate on the road.

Studies upon studies prove your point is incorrect. Driving across I-70 in Kansas during dark, falling asleep at 80-100 mph will only result in more damage..


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5170 times:

Not to mention, the fuel economy of virtually all vehicles goes straight into the dump after about 75 mph.

User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5160 times:

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
US Interstate speed limit is between 60MPH - 70MPH

Actually they range from a minimum of 45mph to a maximum of 80mph (unless extenuating circumstances occur such as construction zones, etc...). That being said, your argument is ludicrous. When you feel sleepy, you drive faster? Do yourself (and everyone else on the road) a favor and destroy your drivers license and ride a bicycle. You're going to kill yourself, or worse, someone else.


User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5153 times:
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Lifting the speed limit in certain areas makes plenty of sense. Out west, on long, straight, empty stretches of highway, for example.

As speed limits are raised, however, I think three things need to happen.

First, driver training should be taken more seriously. Judging by the skills and awareness (or lack thereof) of many drivers, licenses are being handed out like Halloween candy. No disrespect intended, but this seems to be especially evident among foreigners that are new to the country.

Second, there should be some form of recurrent training, particularly for the elderly.

Third, moving violations should be administered for the sake of safety, rather than as a source of income for the respective police departments and communities. Instead of ticketing drivers for exceeding the speed limit by 5 or 6 miles per hour, for example, police should take a stronger stance on basic idiocy. Driving without headlights on during the twilight hours or in inclement weather, failing to recognize the left lane of a highway is a passing lane, tailgating (this is a major one), failure to signal, etc, etc. The list of examples goes on.

Basic sloppiness and carelessness seems to kill a lot more people than mild speeding.


2H4





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User currently offlinePalladium From Indonesia, joined Apr 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5148 times:

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 6):
Actually they range from a minimum of 45mph to a maximum of 80mph

hah.... LOL I got pullover for driving 65MPH on 60MPH LIMIT on Interstate....

that's just soo gay.... 5MPH over the speed limit on I-90 and the cop told me that it's not ok to drive 65, 60 - 63 still OK...urrr I was like -.-"""

lucky he didnt write me any ticket cos if he did, I'll be complaining a lot.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5148 times:

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
what are you guys thought?

18 wheeler + 90 mph = big messy death pile.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

Quoting Palladium (Reply 8):
that's just soo gay.... 5MPH over the speed limit on I-90 and the cop told me that it's not ok to drive 65, 60 - 63 still OK...urrr I was like -.-"""

lucky he didnt write me any ticket cos if he did, I'll be complaining a lot.

Homophobic language aside, you'd complain if a police officer wrote you a ticket for breaking the law?


User currently offlineCptkrell From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5128 times:

AirCop referenced commonsense points, which you, Palladium, in your formative but still unlearned early 20's have evidently not had the chance to address in an emergency.

Not only are your sophomoric driving skills (as surely as 80% of ALL USA drivers irrespective of age) a danger to yourself and other motorists at higher speeds, I'll wager that 80% of vehicles in the USA are actually dangerous machines at higher speeds because of lack of owner attention (or basic disrepair).

Most people don't have a clue as to the speed rating of their tires, let along even to bother checking inflation pressures or securing movable objects within the cabin. Ever "overdriven" your headlights lately? Probably.

Do you automatically glance in the rearview mirror(s) at least every 10 - 15 seconds? Do you automatically glance at you systems functions guages and dials every 30 - 45 seconds?

Even if you are aware and follow commonsense operating procedures, be aware that most others DON'T and if you insist that you are one of the few gifted high speed public roads drivers you'll still probably get whacked out because the other unwashed masses (or a deer or turkey buzzard) won't expect your closing rate of speed.

Regards...jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5121 times:

Quoting Palladium (Reply 8):
hah.... LOL I got pullover for driving 65MPH on 60MPH LIMIT on Interstate....

Ah yes. Now we see what your bitch truly is. It's not the speed limits you have a problem with, it's having to abide by them.
And, "LOL", if you want to be taken seriously, "LOL", try and speak on a level that doesn't make you look like a 3rd grader whose using daddy's computer. "LOL"


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26501 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5123 times:

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
Who is here agree with me that "SPEED LIMIT" on US Interstate should be lifted ?

I agree that it should be lifted where it would be, well, reasonable and prudent. That would be places like West Texas (recently raised to 80mph), Central California and many other sparsly trafficed areas. What should be enforced are safe driving laws, such as passing on the left only and signalling

Quoting AirCop (Reply 4):
Montana and I believe Nevada had a resonable and prudent speed limit on the interstates back in the 70's.

Montana's lasted into the 1990s



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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 4):
Montana and I believe Nevada had a resonable and prudent speed limit on the interstates back in the 70's.

Um...not so sure about way back when...but just a half dozen years ago Montana was "Reasonable and Prudent". It was a very nice...  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

Its been my experience that folks in general need to master the intricacies of driving at slow speeds before they think about hammerin' down.

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
Speed limit is soo lame

Excellent argument for your point! Nothing says n00b like an unsubstatiated opinion.

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
With this kind of speed limit, people will feel sleepy while they driving.

Huh? Just because a safe and prudent speed restriction may be too boring for you, it certainly doesn't leave me disinterested to the point where I fall asleep.

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
Now try this, if there is no SPEED LIMIT, people will drive faster and they tend to concentrate more on the road and I will bet you 1000000$$ they won't feel sleepy.

I'll wager an equally absurd and made-up figure that no self-respecting grandma in her twenty year-old Caprice is going to bump her comfortable speed from 45 to 105 just because she can. With no limit, how do you propose dealing with slower traffic? My mother-in-law digs her nails into my door handle and armrest if I drive 65 and makes little suggestive glances at my speedometer. I know I'm not alone in this.

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
what are you guys thought?

I think you should've reconsidered hitting the "post new topic" link.


User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5083 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 5):
Not to mention, the fuel economy of virtually all vehicles goes straight into the dump after about 75 mph.

Are you sure it is 75? Every chart I've seen has depicted it at or around 60mph and dropping sharply after that.


User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10037 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5082 times:
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Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
what are you guys thought?

Do we only get one thought?

Fair enough, the thought is: Bad Idea.

Seriously, you're pretty much giving total credence to the higher insurance rates for drivers our age. Which, frankly, I resent. We're already some of the more unsafe drivers on the road; you don't have to go out of your way to make that more obvious.

In recent years (I'm 24 now), I've actually calmed my driving down a lot. Commuting 25 miles each way to work every day will do that to you. Not to mention, there's a lot more to life than gunning it down an empty stretch of highway. Besides, I've never gotten a (speeding) ticket, and I don't intend to start getting them now.

I used to think I was a great driver. As I got a few more years of driving under my belt, I started to realize that while I'm a pretty good driver, I'm not the best out there, nor am I the worst. I wouldn't trust myself to drive 90-100 mph for long stretches of time.

I should say that I pretty much agree with 2H4's points, but they should happen whether or not the speed limit gets raised.

~Vik



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User currently offlineJamie757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5082 times:

I agree with this point that you raise above 2H4...

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 7):
First, driver training should be taken more seriously. Judging by the skills and awareness (or lack thereof) of many drivers, licenses are being handed out like Halloween candy. No disrespect intended, but this seems to be especially evident among foreigners that are new to the country.



Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
I tried this before, whenever I feel sleepy, I drive faster and suddenly i dont feel sleepy anymore 'cos I my brain and eyes suddenly tend to concentrate on the road.

What brain?

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
people will drive faster

When people crash whilst travelling at higher speeds, they cause greater injuries to themselves and those that they crash into.

Quoting Palladium (Reply 8):
lucky he didnt write me any ticket cos if he did, I'll be complaining a lot.

Shame he didn't write you a ticket if you ask me. YOU broke the law, YOU should face the consequences. Stop being a cry-baby.

 Yeah sure

Rgds.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26501 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5078 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 5):
Not to mention, the fuel economy of virtually all vehicles goes straight into the dump after about 75 mph.

My car gets better economy at 90 than at 75



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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5077 times:

Quoting Jpax (Reply 16):
Are you sure it is 75? Every chart I've seen has depicted it at or around 60mph and dropping sharply after that.

He's probably right.

By experimenting, I've found that my Yeep gets it's peak fuel economy at about 71-72mph... and I'm certain Yeep's aren't the most efficient highway vehicles. I'd expect normal vehicles to be higher.


User currently offlinePalladium From Indonesia, joined Apr 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5066 times:

Quoting Jamie757 (Reply 18):

Shame he didn't write you a ticket if you ask me. YOU broke the law, YOU should face the consequences. Stop being a cry-baby.

LOL... don't tell me u never speed up over 5MPH from the speed limit...
millions people drive 65MPH+ on interstate. What I'm trying to say is the tolerance.... if you drive 5 mph over the speed limit, it should be ok....
5mph over ( u wont feel the difference)


User currently offlinePalladium From Indonesia, joined Apr 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5059 times:

Actually it is pretty easy way to solve the problem about speeding...
lol like make every car in US to be able only go for 70MPH as the top speed...
that'll do.... I wonder what will be the reaction from the people...


User currently offlineJamie757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5039 times:

Quoting Palladium (Reply 21):
don't tell me u never speed up over 5MPH from the speed limit...

I didn't say that, but for the record, usually I try not to exceed speed limits. I suspect that you might be a compulsive speeder, am I right?

Quoting Palladium (Reply 21):
What I'm trying to say is the tolerance

What I'm trying to say is that if you didn't exceed the limit, then you wouldn't have to worry about tolerances would you?

Quoting Palladium (Reply 21):
5mph over ( u wont feel the difference)

I suspect you would feel the difference after a collision.

Rgds.

[Edited 2006-11-09 02:29:43]

User currently offlineCptkrell From United States of America, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5032 times:

Another uninformed idea, Palladium (Rep 22).

Speed governors make cars inherently UNsafer because limiting the total performance characteristics also limits sometimes necessary (and possibly critical) response envelopes in emergency situations.

I guess my opinion is that you spend some serious time learning about self-operated machinery before actually operating it yourself. Best wishes, and g'nite...jack



all best; jack
25 LOT767-300ER : I agree. Correction on this. It was only for a few years in the mid 1990s. Interestingly enough, accidents and death rates dropped when there was no
26 AvObserver : Herein lies the flaw in all of these raise or abolish speed limit arguments. Good drivers may well drive safely at much higher limits but that hardly
27 Palladium : like I've said people will tend to concentrate more when they driving faster than slower. sleepiness, sloppy driving, careless, DUI = will result in
28 LOT767-300ER : 1. You need to learn some English writing skills. 2. What you're saying makes no sense. You should concentrate at all times 3. It is easy to get into
29 HPLASOps : When you can keep renewing your license every 7 or 8 years over the internet - I can't fathom how that keeps everyone in check. There is some truth t
30 2H4 : It is definitely frustrating to be held to the lowest common denominator.... 2H4
31 ShyFlyer : Not with the quality of our driver training. Some people who are behind the wheel shouldn't even be operating a bicycle. Most drivers are just along
32 Halcyon : If this is so for you....it's not for everyone else I've ever met. Then when they go off the road and we show up we always get the excuse "I swerved
33 Luisde8cd : Here in Venezuela there's no speed limit anywhere. Do we have accidents? Yes we do, but the road-accidents death ratio is very similar to the United S
34 Cfalk : Until American drivers learn lane discipline, I would not recommend higher speeds. The average American driver simply is not disciplined enough to ha
35 HPLASOps : I'd like to say something about the drinking and driving laws *puts on flamesuit because I know what's coming.* While I thouroughly know why drinking
36 N1120A : Actually, they do have cup holders in plenty of German cars, but the point is made I disagree. I just think that American driver's training/education
37 Post contains images Halcyon : Assuming that you are correct for yourself for whatever fluke of nature, the major majority of people who drink and drive do at some point cause acci
38 Boston92 : Here is a little tip: If a speed sign says " Speed Limit 65 MPH", normally 66 MPH- 72 MPH won't get you a ticket. BUT, if the sign says " Maximum Spee
39 Halls120 : Not me. The vast majority of American drivers aren't capable of operating their vehicles at unrestricted high speeds. I would agree that the top spee
40 2H4 : I think Cfalk is spot on. All the training, education, and testing in the world will be of absolutely no use without the proper discipline to use goo
41 Chugach : You already are complaining a lot.
42 Itsjustme : Yes, the proverbial, "couple of beers". It's that mellowing out, relaxing feeling that you describe (also known as "impairment"), that, quite often l
43 DeltaOwnsAll : blasphemy...what the hell do you expect 'law enforcement' to do without speed limits? Focus on real criminals!?
44 Halcyon : Hmmm...yes, meant a couple in my last post, not one. Oops.
45 Itsjustme : Excellent point! Why should we bother enforcing speed limits. Everyone knows "real criminals" drive the speed limit when fleeing from "real crimes".
46 DeltaOwnsAll : lol~
47 BladeLWS : NO ONE pays attention to the speed limit on the interstates, especially I-95. If you got the speed limit you better be in the right lane or you'll be
48 MDorBust : I must have missed that memo at roll call.
49 DfwRevolution : Depends a great deal on the drag coefficient of your car, its transmission, etc. I drive a fairly aerodynamic sedan with a 5-speed overdrive gear, so
50 AirTranTUS : Parts of Arizona are going up to 80 MPH.
51 Boston92 : You must live on the east coast (judging by your post and you said "NJ"). I am in the east coast (Boston, NH, DC, NY) about 4 times a month, but I li
52 Itsjustme : Really? All conditions? You might want to reconsider this statement.
53 Delta767300ER : I am in full support of this post. As long as its a wide, smooth, straight road out in the middle of nowhere. I have numerous driving experience at h
54 TWISTEDWHISPER : When you are doing 65 MPH on dry asphalt, the weight of your car is supported by a total of less then 17in². That is like the area of 4 palms. At be
55 BMIFlyer : Foolish.... Speed limits are there for a REASON. Also, if you are feeling sleepy behind the wheel, then either you haven't had enough sleep, or you h
56 Damirc : I beg to differ. Toyota Avensis 2.0 D4D. 100 mph, consumption between 36 and 38 mpg. D.
57 Post contains images TWISTEDWHISPER : Not if he's doing 5 MPH Well, unless he gets hit from the rear by one thoose fools that think that going faster will make you more alert.
58 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Smart Ass Ah yes, the thread starter Lee
59 Halls120 : While I agree that US driver education is abysmal, I fail to see what enforcement has to do with the ability of a US driver to operate his or her veh
60 Cfalk : I have a suggestion. Those people who have clean drivers records, at least 30 years old, their car in good condition, tires in good condition (very im
61 IAH777 : Sounds to me like we have another victim of The Jackbooted Oppressor! Fair citizens, repent! The Jackbooted Oppressor is always on the hunt! Always l
62 Post contains images SlamClick : In my opinion there should be three speed limits; one for the section of road itself, one for the vehicle and one for the driver. The road limit in ru
63 DeltaOwnsAll : Ha, ha. How about getting pulled over and searched/intimidated to all hell with "backup" called in simply because you're driving a relatively nice ca
64 Boston92 : I said "generally" all conditions. But yeay you are right, if there are meteors falling to earth that are as wide as busses, than 65 MPH is not safe.
65 777236ER : I doubt it. Your most efficient engine speed will be around the max torque mark, which might be at 90mph, but you have to remember that the drag you'
66 Itsjustme : Hey, I take offense to this. I am not prejudice. A demented asshole, yes, but definitely not prejudice. Actually, I never even considered the day to
67 Boston92 : Most weather conditions permit driving 65 MPH. Heavy rain, no, a Blizzard, no, Hurricane, no, but these do not happen everyday. Our day to day weathe
68 ThePRGuy : I'm guessing by your immature writing style that you are incompetent on the road as you are on this board. Perhaps you should buy a pushbike. Thanks
69 PHLBOS : I believe AirCop's post was referring to pre-1973 Oil-Price Shock conditions (which gave birth to the much-hated National 55 mph Speed limit, more on
70 Itsjustme : I'm on the side of common sense. And common sense tells me that drivers, at least in the U.S., do not have the maturity, training, experience, concen
71 Boston92 : I never said any of that. I was just agreeing that 65 MPH was fast enough and the reason why I think it is 65 and not 80 is because 65 MPH is a gener
72 Baw2198 : You want to drive fast?? Then get a car in good working condition and take a driving course at track (like watkins glenn for example). Not only will i
73 Kazzie : Speed Limits are in place for a reason... Its not for inconvenience... Its for saving lives and common sense.. Sure maybe your a good driver and can h
74 MiCorazonAzul : we're gonna allow crap like this on anet? I am shocked the mods haven't done something about this.......unreal. In particular one mod I can think of.
75 Post contains images Wingscrubber : I would like to point out to everyone that the idea of 'a good driver' is false. There's no such thing, anybody in charge of a ton of steel and glass
76 Post contains images DeltaOwnsAll : some assholes~ If I were to say that all police officers were prejudiced, then I would the prejudiced one, lol. and the prejudices are demented, not
77 Mandala499 : Palladium, Ever driven at 180km/h in Jakarta's inner ring toll? Or up and down Gatot Subroto at that speed in the middle of the day and slammed on the
78 Solarix : Just think of a soccer mom driving an urban assault vehicle at 95 MPH, talking on her cell phone and putting on more makeup at the same time. A tickin
79 WildcatYXU : The whole post was well informed and balanced. Welcome to my RU list. Well, they don't. Germany has lower fatality rates than most US states and Cana
80 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Excellent post!
81 AirPacific747 : How's that possible?
82 ShyFlyer : It's not really a question of should they, it is a question of will they. The answer is many of them (but not all) exceed the current posted speed li
83 Post contains images Baroque : C'mon, how could you possibly fall asleep at 55 mph on I-70 with all that amazing scenery gracefully sailing by! Actually, the cuttings in Douglas co
84 Aa757first : People don't drive 65 though. I'd say the average speed is at least 70 MPH. When I'm doing 80 MPH (no bad weather, not crowded and excellent visibili
85 TheSonntag : Nobody needs speed limits... Free driving for free people! (This was a popular slogan from the German car club in the 1970s when it was discussed whet
87 Boston92 : Most new cars can, but over half of the cars made prior to 1990, would not be able to hit 80-85 MPH.
88 WildcatYXU : I wouldn't worry about it. The thing is that while 65 mph looks ridiculously low for most drivers, 80 gives you some sense of speed. That's enough fo
89 SATX : I won't support wide-open speeds until Americans learn how to drive defensively and folks who gulp their fuel pay much more for the increased environm
90 Post contains images Jamie757 : That's not what I said, obviously you neglected to read through all of the replies before posting.... How do you know if he/she would be legal or not
91 Post contains images Sabena332 : And I just enjoyed a few kilometers of them while driving home from a friend. I reached approx. 240 kph (could be 3 kph more or less, I just looked f
92 FriendlySkies : When Americans learn how to drive, we won't need speed limits. Unfortunately, at least in my experience, most drivers here don't have the common sense
93 WildcatYXU : No. I wrote that purposely. I only didn't check your profile before posting and I didn't know that you're a driving instructor. Now I understand your
94 SATX : Penalties aren't even close to harsh enough. When I was a teenager I paid my fines and drove like a goddamn maniac. I risked my life and the lives of
95 Post contains links and images TheSonntag : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqk6l4g2DoU&mode=related&search= This is how to drive on the Autobahn
96 WildcatYXU : I don't know where you live,but here in Ontario it doesn't end with a paid fine. Firstly you collect demerit points that are valid for two years. Two
97 Post contains images EWS : For a minute reading the bullshit this guy wrote i thought DC10s4eva was back! Lew
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