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User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4761 posts, RR: 30
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

... because it might come true.

Over the last few weeks I've been getting fed up with my job: the boss is too demanding, she is always yelling, the general manager wants everything done now no matter how much work my boss has already assigned, they are all over the workers for one minute late in the morning but fail to notice that everyone is working overtime, and so on and so forth... It got to the point when I started wishing I could get the hell outta there.

So, last Friday the assistant manager calls me and says they need to cut costs, so they are eliminating one of the secretarial positions, so nice to meet you and good luck. Oh great. I could say I got what I wanted, right?

I wasn't really bothered by that, I must say. What bothered me was that neither my boss nor the general manager had the nerve to say it to my face; instead, they sent the assistant manager, who has been there for less than a month.  irked  My boss came late to the office, went into a meeting, then left the office after the meeting. And the manager? He didn't even work that day.

Oh well, it's job hunting time again. Good thing this time I have absolutely no debts to pay, as I finally managed to pay my credit cards in full last month. And the severance payment-- right, forgot about that part. IF I'm lucky enough, I might receive my check in a month. Otherwise I'll have to go to the Ministerio de Trabajo (Dept. of Labor) and sue them, which is what most former employees have done...

/rant over


Don't expect to see me around that much (if at all) -- the contact link should still work, though.
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User currently offlineDrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

I have family (by marriage) in Peru and a very good friend (who happens to be a political science student) who has been living for about a year in Ecuador, and they all seem to think this kind of corruption (such as not receiving the severance pay one is due without suing or otherwise putting up a fight) is very common in their respective countries.

I guess that kind of thing is becoming more common here in America too, but I'm hoping we can still reverse the trend before it becomes even more widespread.

Don't answer this if you don't want to or if it might get you in trouble, but I'd be curious to know: At this job, did you work for the government, or the private sector? And if it's the government, what level? (Local, State, National, etc?)

I don't mean to pry into your business at all; I'm just curious to hear more firsthand reports about the way things go in Latin America.

-DrDeke



If you don't want it known, don't say it on a phone.
User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3008 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

Even though you are happy, I'm still sorry you lost your job. No matter how bad it is in the long run, it's still money.. Something that we unfortunately need in this world to survive.

Good luck, and I'm sure you will have no problem finding a new job!

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

I'm working on selling my house and moving to the UK. I have to find a job there, first.

Mark


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

After reading this thread I realised one thing: I'm also someone who's sick and tired of his job and wants out.

But then again, I don't want to get sacked. I prefer to resign, work until the six week notice is at an end, get my severance pay after a month and then send the company I worked for to hell.

Bottom line: I'm now somewhat scared that the same thing could happen to me as well.


User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4761 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

Quoting DrDeke (Reply 1):
At this job, did you work for the government, or the private sector?

It was a private company. And it's not really that they refuse to pay; they know they have to, and they certainly will. But there seems to be an issue with money mismanagement, as their accounts payable run quite high. My boss (the one signing the checks) would prioritize and pay the more urgent issues (salaries, telephone, internet, vehicle maintenance...) and leave the less urgent matters for later. Sadly, this includes severance payments. I can take the long route, and wait for months and months until they decide there is enough money on the account for my check; or take the short one, and denounce them at the Labor Dept. which ensures payment on the spot.

Now, it's not like I'll go and sue them right away; I'll be patient, give it some time, and try to solve it in a friendly way, but if nothing happens, time for plan B...

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 2):
Good luck, and I'm sure you will have no problem finding a new job!

Thanks for your kind words!  Smile

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 4):
But then again, I don't want to get sacked. I prefer to resign, work until the six week notice is at an end, get my severance pay after a month and then send the company I worked for to hell.

Well, looking at it from a practical point of view... Here, when an employer cancels your contract, you are entitled to your vacation time, Christmas bonus and "bono 14" (an extra salary, given in July), all proportional to the time worked; additionally, you receive a compensation of one month's salary per year worked. When you are the one resigning from your job, the company must give you vacation time, Christmas bonus, and the extra salary, but is not under any obligation to give you the compensation payment (and as you can guess, most companies don't). In the end, this situation means I'll be receiving more money.




(Hey, don't look at me that way, I intend to save the extra money for a trip to Costa Rica!  Silly )

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 4):
Bottom line: I'm now somewhat scared that the same thing could happen to me as well.

I hope not... but wait, since you actually want out of your job, then I hope... well, let's say I hope for the best possible outcome for you, whatever it is. Big grin



Don't expect to see me around that much (if at all) -- the contact link should still work, though.
User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7107 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1772 times:

Sorry you lost your job even if you wanted to, no income is never a good thing

User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1755 times:

Well, Carmencita, I certainly hope the best for you.

After a really hectic summer, I thought the winter time was going to bring the level of work down for us. NOT happening. It has actually increased and the last few weeks have been somewhat hellish.

What's my point? Thanks for reminding me a little of what I have, and I do enjoy the adrenaline rush the job provides.

For those of you who are still searching for something different, keep right at it. It is never too late.


User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1747 times:

I'll be joining you in the ranks of the unemployed in March, Carmen. Although I hope I don't have the same trouble as you in collecting my redundancy money! Mind you, it's hardly worth having.

Good luck in finding another job! Big grin

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1742 times:

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Thread starter):
she is always yelling

Pobre sita Carmenlu ! A woman boss.........Dios mio !te compadesco !
Anyways ,I am sure you will find a job soon.But this time you should wish a man boss.Ahora arriba los animos y a buscar trabajo !SUERTE
Alex!!!

[Edited 2006-11-09 11:16:39]


Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1742 times:

Carmen, good luck finding another job  Smile

Hope you get the severance pay sorted out too...

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 8):
I'll be joining you in the ranks of the unemployed in March, Carmen

So, you finally found out?

Damn that sucks man. Will you be job hunting, or opting for early retirement?  old 



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineFemme From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1742 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 7):
Well, Carmencita, I certainly hope the best for you.

Yeah me too - I am a firm believer that things happen for a reason and I am sure there is another job in the wings where you will be much happier and fulfilled. Think of it this way - It is THeir loss ! And as for seeking compensation I'd go for it with both barrels, what they did and HOw they did it deserves comeuppance !!

Good luck !!

Kind regards

Claire


User currently offlineTWISTEDWHISPER From Sweden, joined Aug 2003, 711 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

Gutless managers... I sometimes understand what makes people show up in the office with an Uzi under the jacket.

I do whish you good luck, hope you will find something soon, and just not anything but something that feels meaningfull and fun.

Good Luck!!!!



Read between the lines.
User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1700 times:

Carmen, why not just pull a "Jap" and pay some quack to say that you are a basket-case Aspie with no hope of ever being able to hold down any kind of gainful employment and go on welfare? If it worked for her, it could work for you, too! RE: ..And So My Working Life Ended... (by Jap Aug 7 2006 in Non Aviation)

User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5157 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

sorry to hear that carmen, hope you find a job soon, ideally one where the IT department dont try to block a.net!  Silly


That'll teach you
User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 10):
Will you be job hunting, or opting for early retirement?

With a mortgage and my son just starting his A levels I think early retirement is optimistic, to be polite.

I'm looking for work, and it will probably be in UK somewhere.

Andy  old 



Growing old is compulsory, growing up is optional
User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 3):
I'm working on selling my house and moving to the UK. I have to find a job there, first.

What kind of job are you looking for? If it's in education, have you looked in the Times Educational Supplement? http://www.tes.co.uk/



'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 16):
What kind of job are you looking for?

Registered Nurse.

Mark


User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1640 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 17):
Registered Nurse.

That shouldn't be a problem. I'm sure there are loads of places looking or qualified nurses.



'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
User currently offlineYVRtoYYZ From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 660 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1619 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 17):
Registered Nurse.

Mark



Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 18):
I'm sure there are loads of places looking or qualified nurses.

Canada is experiencing a shortage of nurses; every municipality is looking for nurses here. Problem with recruitment is that Health Canada is concerned with qualifications and assymilation.

-YVRtoYYZ


User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4761 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 8):
I'll be joining you in the ranks of the unemployed in March, Carmen.

Sorry to hear that, Andy, and good luck with your search...




... but shouldn't you have retired looong time ago?  duck 

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 9):
Pobre sita Carmenlu ! A woman boss.........Dios mio !te compadesco !

Well, I've had women bosses before and they were great... I guess the key here would be to avoid a woman boss that is already in her 40s and never married.  crazy 

Quoting Queso (Reply 13):
Carmen, why not just pull a "Jap" and pay some quack to say that you are a basket-case Aspie with no hope of ever being able to hold down any kind of gainful employment and go on welfare? If it worked for her, it could work for you, too! RE: ..And So My Working Life Ended... (by Jap Aug 7 2006 in Non Aviation)

Let me just say that Janni has some health issues beyond what has been discussed in the forum.

On another note, social security here is a joke -- even if I was to claim benefits, what little money I'd get would not be enough to make a living.

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 14):
sorry to hear that carmen, hope you find a job soon, ideally one where the IT department dont try to block a.net!

 bigthumbsup 



Don't expect to see me around that much (if at all) -- the contact link should still work, though.
User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 20):
I guess the key here would be to avoid a woman boss that is already in her 40s and never married.

And to avoid a childish woman boss who comes with her newborn niece and shows her off to all the employees as if the baby was a trophy, and then leaves it on the baby seat on the floor before her sister (the baby wasn't on the floor in terms of being unattended, but her carry-on seat, where she sat, was on the floor), who's the mother, picks her up and goes home.

I was pretty much the only guy who didn't give a damn about the baby and didn't bother to look at it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not that cold hearted, I recently met the baby boy from another co-worker, whom I've helped during her pregnancy to get the front seat in the company busses at night when going back home. But given the childish nature of my current boss, I know she was showing off her baby niece. If that was my child, I would have made sure that this never happened. I'd only show my baby kid to friends and family, and not to all people in the account.

Bottom line: if your potential boss is an attention whore, avoid them as well!


User currently offlineLeigh pilgrim From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

I was having a chat with a mate of mine the other week, he's a manager, and he even says that at times 'his' job as management is awful, the amount of work that gets thrown at them from the people higher up, then he has to deligate that work to his staff that are not happy about it.

One other word he mentioned was that they have an internet tracker, what this does it give the company details on the top ten sites that their staff have been on, you know to check that nothing 'dodgy' has been accessed.

No1 - 'Early retirement'
No2 - 'How to take a year out from work'

I dont think there are many people happy in what they do, but you have to close your eyes and remember that it earns money, then re-open them and carry on

Its difficult, but I belive that most people are in the same position


User currently offlineAirbusA346 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 7437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1477 times:

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 8):

Part of the Bacon cuts are we Andy  Sad  Wink

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 15):
I'm looking for work, and it will probably be in UK somewhere.

Yikes *Run And Tells Everybody To Prepare For The Manx Mafia Invasion*  Wink  rotfl 

Tom.



Tom Walker '086' First Officer of a A318/A319 for Air Lambert - Hours Flown: 17 hour 05 minutes (last updated 24/12/05).
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