Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5733 posts, RR: 31 Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 29457 times:
Just wondering if anyone know the extent to which "Borat!: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan" is staged? There has to be some of it, as in, for example, the scenes where he and Azamat stay in the Jewish couples B&B and where he gets a lift from the guys in a camper van. There is obviously a cameraman present, whom the other actors completely ignore.
Pamela Anderson surely HAD to be in on the whole thing, as I couldn't imagine him getting away with literally bagging her without (a) having the arse sued off him or (b) being thrown in the slammer.
Some of the scenes, particularly the crowd ones in New York were simple Candid Camera sketches, but others obviously couldn't have been done without the victims being aware of a cameraman being present. Some were credibly presented as an interview with a Kazakh reporter so no suspicion would have been aroused.
The black prostitute must have been in on the whole thing too, seeing she ends-up his wife.
So just how many people in the film knew what was going on? I'm not complaining, btw, as it is absolutely hilarious.
Also, I heard that he came close to being lynched after the rodeo scene, which wouldn't surprise me as that crowd got VERY ugly. He's a brave man. Anyone know the story here?
777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 29376 times:
What a boring film. It looked like it was going to be interesting, and on the edge like good comedy can be, with the 'running of the Jew', but the film really tanked after that.
Talk about hitting soft targets. Telling perfectly reasonable feminists that women have a brain the size of a squirrel, and singing a clearly bollocks version of the Khazak national anthem at a rodeo? There's nothing particularly funny about that, it's just boring with predictable results.
The film also tries to hint at things that aren't true. When he beings the prostitute to the dinner the implication is that they send him away because she's black. That's simply not true, the entire dinner had broken down by then.
The proof that the film isn't as funny or clever as it wants to be is the number of times it has to resort to gross-out humour in order to get a laugh. For example, when he brings the back of shit to the table or the naked wrestling.
Finally, there's a serious undercurrent of anti-Americanism in the UK. Unfortunately, it seems to be cool to be anti-American and this film is simply cashing in on that and fueling it.
Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5733 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 29367 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 9): What a boring film. It looked like it was going to be interesting, and on the edge like good comedy can be, with the 'running of the Jew', but the film really tanked after that.
I think you're in the minority here. Look at the box office! And as for being anti-American, it was the biggest box-office hit in the States last weekend, and it was only shown in 800+ cinemas. No 2 was shown in over 2,000. Americans are well able to laugh at themselves, and it was not just directed at Americans: take out the rodeo crowd and the evangelicals, and you could find the other victims anywhere.
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 9): When he beings the prostitute to the dinner the implication is that they send him away because she's black. That's simply not true, the entire dinner had broken down by then.
I don't agree with you here: it was one factor, but she would have been VERY out of place at that gathering the way she was dressed. As you say, the dinner had broken down by then.
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 9): Finally, there's a serious undercurrent of anti-Americanism in the UK. Unfortunately, it seems to be cool to be anti-American and this film is simply cashing in on that and fueling it.
I only went to see it because it had been awarded 5 stars by two of the broadsheet Sunday papers I buy. And in one of them, The Sunday Times, the critic is Cosmo Landesman, an American, who loved it.
Along with Breakfast on Pluto, it's the funniest film of the year.
Mhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 29294 times:
I don't think all of it is set up - I was reading a review of it at the weekend, and apparently Cohen and the crew were (or were nearly) arrested plenty of times:
Quote: It was at this point that I started to fear for Baron Cohen's life. I learn from the production notes that shortly afterwards a group of angry rodeo hands on horseback surrounded the film-makers' van, demanding that they be lynched.
Even when Borat was being less provocative, the eight-person film crew rarely passed a day without being arrested.
James, are you sure that portion was completely staged? Psi Chi is a social fraternity at my alma mater, the University of South Carolina, and looking through their rush guide online the heavier guy does appear in a photo.
South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.