ORDRyan28 From United States, joined Jul 2006, 987 posts, RR: 12 Posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 720 times:
hey guys,
it's a safe assumption after today that anything can happen these upcoming weeks in regards to the BCS standings. also, its a possibility that the Irish can make a run for the national championship. we need a Michigan win (Saturday vs. OSU of course), along with a sound victory over the Trojans. we're not out of it quite yet..
...just a random thread, any death threats or comments are welcome
-Ryan
Go Irish
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No, but you sure need a hell of a lot of help to even sniff the jockstrap of the national championship game. Obviously there will be a loser in the OSU-UM game but you also must beat USC above you plus pray for my Gators to lose a game (not a hard feat given our sputtering offense) and then you still have to consider Arkansas if they were to beat us for the SEC Championship. The SEC winner if they have one loss will play for the national title given the current situation.
ORDRyan28 From United States, joined Jul 2006, 987 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 689 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1): No, but you sure need a hell of a lot of help to even sniff the jockstrap of the national championship game. Obviously there will be a loser in the OSU-UM game but you also must beat USC above you plus pray for my Gators to lose a game (not a hard feat given our sputtering offense) and then you still have to consider Arkansas if they were to beat us for the SEC Championship. The SEC winner if they have one loss will play for the national title given the current situation.
well, my logic was ND definitely needs a Michigan win Saturday. with a UM win, the Irish will have one loss, and it would be to the number one team in the country. also, I have a feeling Arkansas will knock off Florida for the SEC, and I believe we'll beat USC. with all this considered, the potential BCS standings could look like this come season's end:
-Michigan
-Notre Dame
-Arkansas
Whoever said winning is not everything never fought cancer.
ORDRyan28 From United States, joined Jul 2006, 987 posts, RR: 12 Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 659 times:
Quoting DeltaOwnsAll (Reply 4): Actually pretty likely that OSU would only fall to #2 if they lost to UM...
I think you're right, but I hope not. If OSU did lose, I suppose it would depend on the margin of defeat. New rankings were just unveiled, the Irish are 5!!
-Ryan
Whoever said winning is not everything never fought cancer.
JpetekYXMD80 From United States, joined Jul 2003, 3280 posts, RR: 26 Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 658 times:
Quoting ORDRyan28 (Reply 3): well, my logic was ND definitely needs a Michigan win Saturday. with a UM win, the Irish will have one loss, and it would be to the number one team in the country. also, I have a feeling Arkansas will knock off Florida for the SEC, and I believe we'll beat USC. with all this considered, the potential BCS standings could look like this come season's end:
-Michigan
-Notre Dame
-Arkansas
So you're saying OSU falls of the face of the earth?
DeltaGator From United States, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 15 Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 643 times:
Quoting Boston92 (Reply 9): ND...the most HATED team in all of college football
You guys bring it upon yourself. If your Subway Alumni would quit being so damn smug for a team that hasn't done much of anything since 1988 you might not be so hated. Just a thought to rehabilitate the image...though I'm sure it will be met on deaf ears.
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Quoting TedTAce (Reply 2): Anything can happen; BUT, the Irish will get their asses handed to them if they make it to the final dance.
Agreed. Jeff Samardja or however his name is spelled is the real deal. Brady Quinn is not. He has looked mediocre at best in games against teams that are even halfway decent. He has had real problems reading defenses. C'mon, having to come back to beat Michigan State and UCLA?!? ND's defense has cracks large enough to allow someone like me to run through!
On the other hand, who else has a chance? Outside of Ohio State and Michigan there are no real powerhouse teams this year; every other team has shown gaping holes in either offense or defense. I don't see ND beating USC, though. ND is overhyped, plain and simple. The PAC-10 is so even in terms of talent that we have Washington State beating USC who beat Oregon who beat Arizona who beat Cal who beat Washington State. Or something like that, don't remember it all off the top of my head. But even though Zona beat Cal, Cal could still come back and beat USC who are still more talented than UND.
What do we have then? OSU or Michigan will be #1 and likely still #2 if the game is close. Florida has not played like a #3 team. They don't score points and their defense is mediocre. Next down the list is Rutgers, who play Cincy, Syracuse, and West Virginia. If Rutgers run the table, then maybe, but they have to get past WVU, which may not happen. Then it would be down to Arkansas, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.
What matters is that it doesn't really matter if a team other than Michigan or OSU plays for the National Championship. They are simply better than all other teams in college football right now. Whoever goes up against either one of those teams for the championship will lose. Although I have to admit, I wouldn't mind seeing Notre Dame have their asses handed to them by Michigan again
Actually would not be surprised if the people at NCAA HQ are hoping for Rutgers to play either Mich or OSU. RU gives college football really great, really close access to the largest media market in the US.
Oh, the other thing that must be mentioned...the BCS computers rank Michigan 1, Rutgers 2, and OSU 3.
Because it is a statement without any reasoning (Don't tell me the resoning is that UM has all ready beat ND, that was the past). I am not saying that ND would win if they had a rematch, I am just saying that you or Texan does not know that they would lose, or get "there asses handed to them", as you guys keep saying.
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Texan From United States, joined Dec 2003, 3128 posts, RR: 25 Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 623 times:
Quoting Boston92 (Reply 15): Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
I wouldn't mind seeing Notre Dame have their asses handed to them by Michigan again
Ingnorance.
You're right. I'm sorry. Notre Dame is the pinnacle of perfection, the acme of achievements. How is my personal preference of seeing UND be trounced again by a vastly superior team "ignorance?"
Texan From United States, joined Dec 2003, 3128 posts, RR: 25 Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 620 times:
Quoting Boston92 (Reply 17): Because it is a statement without any reasoning (Don't tell me the resoning is that UM has all ready beat ND, that was the past). I am not saying that ND would win if they had a rematch, I am just saying that you or Texan does not know that they would lose, or get "there asses handed to them", as you guys keep saying.
And you don't know they wouldn't get their asses handed to them. It is ignorant of you to say otherwise, in this case, unless you somehow know for a fact that UND is going to win. I mean, Touchdown Jesus helps y'all out, I'm sure, but I doubt he told y'all that if there was a rematch y'all would win.