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Who Said No Nat. Champ. For The Irish?  
User currently offlineORDRyan28 From United States, joined Jul 2006, 987 posts, RR: 12
Posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 720 times:

hey guys,

it's a safe assumption after today that anything can happen these upcoming weeks in regards to the BCS standings. also, its a possibility that the Irish can make a run for the national championship. we need a Michigan win (Saturday vs. OSU of course), along with a sound victory over the Trojans. we're not out of it quite yet..

...just a random thread, any death threats or comments are welcome


-Ryan

Go Irish


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 706 times:

Quoting ORDRyan28 (Thread starter):
Who Said No Nat. Champ. For The Irish?

Me for one.

Quoting ORDRyan28 (Thread starter):
we're not out of it quite yet..

No, but you sure need a hell of a lot of help to even sniff the jockstrap of the national championship game. Obviously there will be a loser in the OSU-UM game but you also must beat USC above you plus pray for my Gators to lose a game (not a hard feat given our sputtering offense) and then you still have to consider Arkansas if they were to beat us for the SEC Championship. The SEC winner if they have one loss will play for the national title given the current situation.

Quoting ORDRyan28 (Thread starter):
any death threats or comments are welcome

No death threat but Brady Quinn sure needs to cut his hair. He looks like a girl. And an ugly one at that. His sister got all the looks in the family.


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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 702 times:

Anything can happen; BUT, the Irish will get their asses handed to them if they make it to the final dance.

User currently offlineORDRyan28 From United States, joined Jul 2006, 987 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 689 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
No, but you sure need a hell of a lot of help to even sniff the jockstrap of the national championship game. Obviously there will be a loser in the OSU-UM game but you also must beat USC above you plus pray for my Gators to lose a game (not a hard feat given our sputtering offense) and then you still have to consider Arkansas if they were to beat us for the SEC Championship. The SEC winner if they have one loss will play for the national title given the current situation.

well, my logic was ND definitely needs a Michigan win Saturday. with a UM win, the Irish will have one loss, and it would be to the number one team in the country. also, I have a feeling Arkansas will knock off Florida for the SEC, and I believe we'll beat USC. with all this considered, the potential BCS standings could look like this come season's end:
-Michigan
-Notre Dame
-Arkansas


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User currently offlineDeltaOwnsAll From United States, joined Jul 2001, 988 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 681 times:

Actually pretty likely that OSU would only fall to #2 if they lost to UM...

User currently offlineORDRyan28 From United States, joined Jul 2006, 987 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 659 times:

Quoting DeltaOwnsAll (Reply 4):
Actually pretty likely that OSU would only fall to #2 if they lost to UM...

I think you're right, but I hope not. If OSU did lose, I suppose it would depend on the margin of defeat. New rankings were just unveiled, the Irish are 5!!

-Ryan


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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States, joined Jul 2003, 3280 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 658 times:

Quoting ORDRyan28 (Reply 3):
well, my logic was ND definitely needs a Michigan win Saturday. with a UM win, the Irish will have one loss, and it would be to the number one team in the country. also, I have a feeling Arkansas will knock off Florida for the SEC, and I believe we'll beat USC. with all this considered, the potential BCS standings could look like this come season's end:
-Michigan
-Notre Dame
-Arkansas

So you're saying OSU falls of the face of the earth?


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User currently offlineBoston92 From Iraq, joined Aug 2006, 3281 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 653 times:

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 6):
So you're saying OSU falls of the face of the earth?

Well we did when ND lost to UM.

[Edited 2006-11-13 04:49:21]


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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States, joined Jul 2003, 3280 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 653 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 7):
Well we did when we lost to UM.

Thats what happens when a 'national title front-runner' gets absolutely blown out at home in week 3.


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User currently offlineBoston92 From Iraq, joined Aug 2006, 3281 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 648 times:

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 8):
Thats what happens when a 'national title front-runner' gets absolutely blown out at home in week 3.

No, thats what happens when ND loses, the most HATED team in all of college football as expressed in ORDryan's thread and in mine.


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 643 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 9):
ND...the most HATED team in all of college football

You guys bring it upon yourself. If your Subway Alumni would quit being so damn smug for a team that hasn't done much of anything since 1988 you might not be so hated. Just a thought to rehabilitate the image...though I'm sure it will be met on deaf ears.


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User currently offlineBoston92 From Iraq, joined Aug 2006, 3281 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 639 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 10):

Do I think ND is the best team in the NCAA? No. Do I think ND is better than what [you] people give them credit for? Yes.


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From United States, joined Sep 2004, 13719 posts, RR: 77
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 639 times:
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Buckeye Nation.

Actually, I'd LOVE to see UND get into the title, simply so OSU could beat the shit out of them for a second consecutive year. That's fine by me.  Big grin


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User currently offlineTexan From United States, joined Dec 2003, 3128 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 635 times:

Quoting ORDRyan28 (Thread starter):
Who Said No Nat. Champ. For The Irish?

Add me to that list

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 2):
Anything can happen; BUT, the Irish will get their asses handed to them if they make it to the final dance.

Agreed. Jeff Samardja or however his name is spelled is the real deal. Brady Quinn is not. He has looked mediocre at best in games against teams that are even halfway decent. He has had real problems reading defenses. C'mon, having to come back to beat Michigan State and UCLA?!? ND's defense has cracks large enough to allow someone like me to run through!

On the other hand, who else has a chance? Outside of Ohio State and Michigan there are no real powerhouse teams this year; every other team has shown gaping holes in either offense or defense. I don't see ND beating USC, though. ND is overhyped, plain and simple. The PAC-10 is so even in terms of talent that we have Washington State beating USC who beat Oregon who beat Arizona who beat Cal who beat Washington State. Or something like that, don't remember it all off the top of my head. But even though Zona beat Cal, Cal could still come back and beat USC who are still more talented than UND.

What do we have then? OSU or Michigan will be #1 and likely still #2 if the game is close. Florida has not played like a #3 team. They don't score points and their defense is mediocre. Next down the list is Rutgers, who play Cincy, Syracuse, and West Virginia. If Rutgers run the table, then maybe, but they have to get past WVU, which may not happen. Then it would be down to Arkansas, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.

What matters is that it doesn't really matter if a team other than Michigan or OSU plays for the National Championship. They are simply better than all other teams in college football right now. Whoever goes up against either one of those teams for the championship will lose. Although I have to admit, I wouldn't mind seeing Notre Dame have their asses handed to them by Michigan again  Wink

Actually would not be surprised if the people at NCAA HQ are hoping for Rutgers to play either Mich or OSU. RU gives college football really great, really close access to the largest media market in the US.

Oh, the other thing that must be mentioned...the BCS computers rank Michigan 1, Rutgers 2, and OSU 3.

Texan


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User currently offlineFalcon84 From United States, joined Sep 2004, 13719 posts, RR: 77
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 632 times:
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Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
Oh, the other thing that must be mentioned...the BCS computers rank Michigan 1, Rutgers 2, and OSU 3.

That computer if fucked up-no offense to any Rutgers fans. There's no way Rutgers is better than Ohio State.


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User currently offlineBoston92 From Iraq, joined Aug 2006, 3281 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 627 times:

Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
Washington State beating USC who beat Oregon who beat Arizona who beat Cal who beat Washington State

Something is very wrong in that math.

Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
I wouldn't mind seeing Notre Dame have their asses handed to them by Michigan again

Ingnorance.


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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States, joined Jul 2003, 3280 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 625 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 15):


Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
I wouldn't mind seeing Notre Dame have their asses handed to them by Michigan again

Ingnorance.

How is that 'ingnorance'?


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User currently offlineBoston92 From Iraq, joined Aug 2006, 3281 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 623 times:

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 16):
How is that 'ingnorance'?

Because it is a statement without any reasoning (Don't tell me the resoning is that UM has all ready beat ND, that was the past). I am not saying that ND would win if they had a rematch, I am just saying that you or Texan does not know that they would lose, or get "there asses handed to them", as you guys keep saying.


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User currently offlineTexan From United States, joined Dec 2003, 3128 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 623 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 15):
Quoting Texan (Reply 13):
I wouldn't mind seeing Notre Dame have their asses handed to them by Michigan again

Ingnorance.

You're right. I'm sorry. Notre Dame is the pinnacle of perfection, the acme of achievements. How is my personal preference of seeing UND be trounced again by a vastly superior team "ignorance?"

Texan


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User currently offlineTexan From United States, joined Dec 2003, 3128 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 620 times:

Quoting Boston92 (Reply 17):
Because it is a statement without any reasoning (Don't tell me the resoning is that UM has all ready beat ND, that was the past). I am not saying that ND would win if they had a rematch, I am just saying that you or Texan does not know that they would lose, or get "there asses handed to them", as you guys keep saying.

And you don't know they wouldn't get their asses handed to them. It is ignorant of you to say otherwise, in this case, unless you somehow know for a fact that UND is going to win. I mean, Touchdown Jesus helps y'all out, I'm sure, but I doubt he told y'all that if there was a rematch y'all would win.

Texan


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