Bombstar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 773 times:
There have been reported incidents where people have died, left their bodies, then mysteriously come back to life later on. Has anyone had such an experience?
I saw an episode about them on TLC once, seemed interesting.
Hepkat From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 2341 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 685 times:
Well, I think I might have had such an experience.
It was a few years ago while still in college (Binghamton University, NY), and I was all alone in the whole apartment building one summer night. For some reason, I was scared shitless and just couldn't sleep. I tried several times to sleep, but something would keep me up. Whenever I thought I was dosing off, I felt a strange sensation in my head and I would get back up, scared to go back to bed. Well, after a few hours I finally started to sleep.
Then, all of a sudden, I felt the strangest sensation in my head. I can only describe it as the sensation you feel in an aircraft as it's rapidly rotating. Sometimes you also feel it in elevators when your body weight gets lighter and lighter and you feel that sensation from your stomach going up. Well, I felt it from the bottom of my feet going all the way up to the crown of my head. Then, swoosh! I felt like something just came right out of the top of my head. It was a very strange, frightening and scary feeling.
For a minute, everything was quiet. I didn't know what had happened. I felt very peaceful, almost like floating on air. Suddenly, I noticed that something wasn't quite right. I noticed that I could see everything around me at once! It wasn't seeing actually, as the room was completely dark. It was more like perceiving things in the room. I could "peceive" my desk in the corner, and could tell that it was brown, and that my white computer was on top of it, even though the room was completely dark. I could "see" through the darkness with perfect clarity and knew where everything was, what everything was. It's the most difficult thing to explain, because I felt that I had no eyes to see anything. I just "knew" or "perceived" everything. Very strange.
I still had no idea what was happening. I wanted to get to another corner of the room, but had no idea how to get there. I had no legs, I had no hands. Bear in mind, I was still at this point clueless as to what was happening. Then, the strangest thing happened. I "willed" myself there, and suddenly, I was there! I had no explanation for it. It happened so quickly, I couldn't even tell how I did it. Then, I "perceived" the space above me and noticed I was touching the ceiling. Suddenly, I became frightened as I realized that there was no physical structure holding me up there, and so I felt I should immediately fall to the ground. Although I was not falling, I still became very afraid at being so high up off the ground, and before I think another thought, "swoosh", I felt myself sucked right back in through my head. I can only presume I was sucked back into my body.
I got up immediately, shocked, extremely frightened and shaken. I had no idea what had happened, nor could I explain it. For the rest of that night, I was so afraid I did not dare try going back to sleep.
For several days I treid to make sense of it, and said nothing to no one. Then, I noticed a few strange things starting to happen. For example, when the phone rang, my guess as to who it was calling ALWAYS turned out to be right. Well, I just kept saying to myself, "lucky guess". Then I began to wonder, is this really a guess? So, I started to accept it as fact, and I'm not joking, I always knew who was calling after that for some weeks, if not months.
A few days after, my housemate and his girlfriend came over. It was a lazy Sunday afternoon, and we were all in the living room just chatting. I was feeling lazy and tired, so I told them I'm going to take a nap, and left them alone. I then had the strangest dream. I saw myself lifting the roof off our apartment, like a doll's house and looking inside. Then I saw them making out and to my amazement, even having sex. I know this sounds very wierd, but I saw everything. Later that night I approached my housemate and told him what I saw, and to this day he accuses me of spying on them, for I described perfectly to the "t" what they were doing. He jokes about it all the time, but I keep telling him that I really saw it in a dream. Or sometimes I would dream of a place, or a situation, and a few weeks later I would find myself there in that same place and situation. Once I was making dinner in the kitchen, and suddenly I knew I was in that situation before. The tv was on, and I was even able to complete the sentence currently being said. I was in that situation before, I dreamt it in a dream. How on earth did I know what they were going to say on tv? I finished the sentence before the news reporter even got the chance.
Then, other strange things started happening. For example, I would meet someone, and suddenly I would have a thought about them in my mind. I would always dismiss this thought as just my being strange. A few days later my thoughts would then be confirmed as fact. Or I would meet someone and immediately know that we have something important to do. I even remember meeting this guy I had to work with, and the first thing that came to mind was that his wife was cheating on him. No idea why I thought that or where it came from. After about three weeks, we started to get to know each other well. He travels A LOT for his company, so we talked about aircraft all the time. Then, he mentioned to me how his family life is suffering because he always has to be jetting off to China or Indonesia or somewhere like that, and that all his wife does is take his money and ignore him. He then mentioned to me that he just found out she's been cheating on him with this guy from Paris. Incredible, I thought! And this is by far not the only example.
Well, shortly after my "out of body" experience, I met this Chinese guy who studied at the Shao Lin temple in China. He was visiting my housemate, but when I opened the door, it was like being knocked over by a wind. I knew immediately he was different, and that we would have something important to do. He looked me up and down, later he told me he was reading me like a book. I explained to him my experiences, and he explained to me these things about "out of body" experiences, energies, the whole works. I was really shocked and didn't know what to believe, until I started to have strange experiences with him. Like one day we went to the store, talking about a friend of ours, and I swear, he would read every thought I had before I even had the chance to say them. I would only open my mouth and he would already answer the sentence. I asked him, how did you know I was about to say that? He never answered, but for the rest of that night, he answered EVERY sentence before I uttered it. He taught me a lot about philosophy and control over one's emotions. He taught me that the true source of all negativity, and the real enemy within, is always fear. He taught me that it's our expectations (which are really just our fears projected) that ruin situations and relationships. Get rid of fear and expectation, and you'll finally be able to live a complete and "divine" life free of complications. So far I've done a lot along these lines, and I've gotta tell you, your life becomes so much simplier, so much more enlightened, everything becomes transparent to you, every need you have becomes automatically fulfilled - this makes you a powerful person. He demonstrated to me deep mind over matter techniques, things I could never do. I remember he once stopped breathing for a few minutes. Then, incredibly, I saw the hairs on his hands slowly rising up and down. I have no explanation for what that was.
Well, I could go on and on about my "out of body" experience. While I make no claim to being able to explain it, or knowing exactly what happened, it has left me with a hightened sense of awareness. I feel things I couldn't feel before, I know things I could have never known before. Although I'm no longer as sensitive as I used to be, every now and then I still get these feelings that I cannot explain. And they always turn out to be right.
I've heard many more incredible reports of out of body experiences. Mine is not so spectacular, but this is exactly as it happened.
Aloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 658 times:
Hepkat, I believe you fully 100%. For a long time last year I studied out of body experiences, agel encounters, and miracle sotries in depth, and what you described is almost exactly like other people have expereinced, you are not alone, you, like all of us, have a soul.
This shoudl serve as proof to atheists that there is an afterlife and there IS a God.
You earn a place on my extended respected users list, friend!
Hepkat From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 2341 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 638 times:
Actually, there were one or two times when it started to happen again. You guys have to realize that it's absolutely, the SCARIEST thing you can ever imagine. When you feel that feeling in your head, your whole body freezes up, and you start shaking. I would never want to experience that feeling again, it was very awful! It was not fun by any stretch of the imagination.
Anyway, I was staying at a friend's house on Long Island, and was sleeping on the couch when I felt that feeling in my head. I started getting very scared and I immediately got up and refused to go back to sleep. I can't understand those people that say they like this thing and actively try to reproduce it. I would never want it to happen again.
There was yet a third time when it started happening, but I would consciously try to prevent it. Since then, I would say over 5 to 6 years ago, it has not happened again, and I'm glad. In my experience, it's a terrible sensation.
As for the soul, I am now a firm believer that there is something after death. I've just seen and experienced too many things not to believe. There were times, after my "out of body" experience, where I'd be walking down the hall in my apartment, alone at home, and I'd feel that someone was behind me. I'd look behind me, but of course no one was there. Then, the all time wierdest thing that happened, was one night while watching a rental video. I was all alone at home, bedroom door closed, wrapped up in bed watching the video when suddenly, my stereo receiver turned on by itself and started to play a cassette. Now, this stereo has no remote control, so I was wondering how it could have started playing by itself, especially when the power was off. I decided to ignore it, then it stopped, by itself. Then a few minutes later, it started again.
I was SOOOOOO angry, and decided that I would not get up to turn it off. Whoever turned it on would have to turn it back off themselves, I said to myself. I waited and waited and it kept on playing. Finally I called my Mom and explained what was happening. Shen then talked me into turning it off myself, but I did so very reluctantly. Funny enough, I was not afraid, just pissed off that someone was fooling around with me. Since then, I've had a few more such experiences, all unexplainable, and all of which started to happen after my out of body experience.
I could tell you guys loads of stories. It's so strange that these things should happen to me, a person of science and logical thinking.
Aloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 618 times:
Remember when I told you last yer I was very involved with this kinda stuff, used to read about it and research it? Well I think I MIGHT know what you have.
It's called a detached soul, it's not a bad thing, but it's very rare. I don't know much about it though but I do remember reading about this sort of thing. I does mean you are gifted though. Your body is not entirely stable. this may sound scary, but your soul cannot decide which "plane" it is on.
It's been shown that when you sleep, you are on a higher metaphysical plane, that is, a higher sense of being. In fact, others who have this so-called "detatched soul" syndrome describe visiting places in their sleep which in later years they did in fact visit, and the specualtion is that they actually "flew" if you will, to these places. That is, even though they were asleep, they WERE there.
It's very confusing, but it's very real.
I have a question to ask of you:
While you are otuside of your body, do you notice anything that looks, in the most obscure ways, like a rope. A silver strand, a faint line, that connects "you" with your body? Nearly every account that I have read, concerning the "detached soul", the subject him/herself described seeing a sort of "silver line," or "rope" connecting them with their body, binding them with their body. This "rope" is supposed to be broken then the body dies, and it sets the soul free.
you can venture as far as you please, this rope has no limits, but as long as the rope is intact, your body is still alive, but for the time you are out of your body, the body is really nothing more than a vegetable, living, yes, but without soul.
Does any of this sound familiar to you?
Please write me back and let me know. And then I'll describe my own story.
Strickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 591 times:
This shoudl serve as proof to atheists that there is an afterlife and there IS a God.
Honestly, I don't think it does. It bothers me when people refer to things like this as "proof that God exists" when things like this could SO easily be a hoax or halucinated. Not to be accusing, but I've heard people descibe similar events after using various drugs, and it was no more than halucination. Or, of course, it could some of these "visions" of far away places could be dreams. Then how is it that, when one actually does visit the places years later, they find that their "vision" was perfectly accurate? Well, dreams are only collections of your own imaginations... you're probably pasting in pictures that you've seen in books, magazines, or on the internet in your dreams; it happens often. I appreciate everyone's right to believe what they want, but I don't think that something like this should "convince" those of us that don't believe in God or an afterlife that such actually does exist. Just my two cents.
AWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 579 times:
Truly a remarkable story I must say. Stuff like that always blows me away. I suspect we humans don't have a complete understanding of our existence. I have always maintained that after we "die" there MUST be some kind of awareness. I can't fully describe what I mean here, but, if you're perceptive you'll catch my drift.
I know not everyone will condone this topic, but hey... To each their own. Everyone is entitled to believe, or, disbelieve whatever they choose (religion; politics; education... love), PROVIDING they don't try to force it down anyone else's throat.
um... To what do I owe the honour? I appreciate the aknowledgment, however.
I have also experienced unexplainable things, but, I'll spare the skeptics any futher rambellings on my part.
Aloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 576 times:
Well, in my life I think I've found undeniable proof that God exists.
I'll decline to share, but as for me, I already know. Right now I am more concerned with my current life than worrying about the afterlife because I already know...what's there.
Most of it is far too complex to describe. It's funny though, and I will say this. Does nyone remember my posts from about a month after I joined the forum, about how I wasn't so sure if god and afterlife really existed?
Well that's when "it" happened. I'll leave it off there, but let me say something. There are great things in store, things you wouldn't imagine. Let me also say that hell does not exist, it was created by man. There is no such thing as hell, and I know this. There are varying levels of heaven, but it's not what you would expect. The best way to describe it is pure energy, it's all thought, all knowledge, the entire existence of the universe. IT is aware of itself, it has a mind, it thinks, it grows.
You are all part of that, if you disbelieve it's because you were meant to. "God" is not a single being, guys, he's not, IT'S not. GOD, is, how do I describe this, god is the universe. A grain of salt is God, a star, a rock, a tree, together, they make god, god is the living breathing whole of it all. It's not one thing, it is the light which we are made of, part of. You are god, I am, all of us are god.
I told you it's too complex to explain, you probably couldnt understand, but how you are is how you were meant to be. I was, for the breifes tmoment, atheist, and then I was shown....things.
I'll leave it off there
25 AWspicious: Aloha; I know what you're trying to say. "Lift a stone - God is there; Break a branch - God is there, too" -> (St. Thomas) Is that kind of how it goes
26 Aloha 737-200: Well I've heard that saying before, I think it's from the bible, but I've enver read the bible so I'm not sure. But, that's all figurative speech God
27 Aloha 737-200: God is made of those things, and they are made of god it's very complex
28 Hepkat: Aloha 737-200, no, I never saw anything resembling a silver rope. I didn't even know what was happening, so it never occurred to me to look for any ro
29 Aloha 737-200: Hepkat, you explained it alot better than I ever could have. you have a way with words. I commend you! But yes that was the message that I was trying
30 Hepkat: Well, send me an email and we can discuss our experiences further.