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Question For Americans On Second President Clinton  
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2290 times:

Seeing that the US mid-term elections have been in the news, they got me thinking. Since the polls put her ratings at 29%, Barack Obama's at 22% and John Edwards' at 10%, it looks like Hillary is the clear front-runner.

So, if this week's trend is maintained, it's not unreasonable to assume she might be the next president of the United States.

In that case, how would she be addressed? At the moment it's Mr President. Hardly Mrs President, as that is a loaded term and feminists surely wouldn't stand for it. So what about Ms President? Would that be a runner? There's something odd about it. Or Madam President? Or is that too French?

Just curious.

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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2285 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
Or Madam President

Of all your suggestions I think this is the one that would stand. Almost as I have heard it before.

That would be interesting to have a female American President. Next step a black or latino president. I do find that highly unlikely..

[Edited 2006-11-12 19:51:38]

[Edited 2006-11-12 19:55:39]


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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2281 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 1):
Next step a black or latino President. NEVER HAPPEN

Never say never. Who would have thought that a black would be second in the running for 2008 five years ago?


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2264 times:

There seem to be two issues here that some of you seem to have a hard time differentiating.

First is the issue of a black/woman/whatever "minority" as President SIMPLY BECAUSE they are black/woman/whatever "minority".

Then there's the issue of WHO'S BEST QUALIFIED to be President.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2264 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 2):

Never say never. Who would have thought that a black would be second in the running for 2008 five years ago?

Edited my post, maybe never but not very likely. HEHE..

No but America is moving forward, many things have changed, things are continuing to change and I honestly expect great things in the future of this great country. For those of you who are Americans, despite all the drama and hate these days for the US, I think it cannot be contested that the USA is the most influencial country in the world. God bless yall...



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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2255 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 3):
Then there's the issue of WHO'S BEST QUALIFIED to be President

Well, that didn't happen the last time!


User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2245 times:

No it didn't. But I guess, people voted who they thought was the lesser of two evils. Just like last week, it's not that the Democrats won per se. It's that the Republicans lost.

If we are to ever truly hope to move this country forward and at least attempt to make an attempt at some sort of reconcilitory unity, I don't believe that playing up to the race and gender card is the way to do it.

More to the point: "Here is our first Black Woman President" is going to get nowhere near as much respect as, for instance: "Here is the first president to capture the Electoral AND Popular vote of all 50 States and made further history by happening to be a Black man!!"


User currently offlinePhxplanes From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2236 times:

It has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman but I think it would be terrible if she was our next president, just my opinion.

User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2226 times:

Okay . . . I didn't post this thread as a referendum on Hillary, I ONLY WANTED TO KNOW WAS HOW SHE'D BE ADDRESSED IF SHE BECOMES PRESIDENT!

User currently offlineTraindriver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

My uneducated guess would be Madam President.

User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2188 times:

Quoting Captaink (Reply 1):
Of all your suggestions I think this is the one that would stand. Almost as I have heard it before.

That would be interesting to have a female American President. Next step a black or latino president. I do find that highly unlikely..

I think we will be more likely to see a female president first.

But my guess would also be Madame President. I think Nancy Pelosi will also get the title "Madame Speaker."



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 10):
Madame President

Isn't that a little too . . . French? What's wrong with Madam?


User currently offlineKalakaua From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1516 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

Madam pronounced mad-em, not Madame (rhymes w/ Saddam).


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User currently offlineKalakaua From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1516 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

I, personally, would like to see Condy running against Hilary.


Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who set the planets in motion.
User currently offlineFlyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 11):
Isn't that a little too . . . French? What's wrong with Madam?

How was Mary Robinson addressed? Shouldn't it be the same?

Alex


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 11):
Isn't that a little too . . . French? What's wrong with Madam?

that is true also. i think it is Madam Speaker.



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

Quoting Flyingbabydoc (Reply 14):
How was Mary Robinson addressed? Shouldn't it be the same?

Usually informally, as Mary Robinson, or formally, President Robinson. And, of course, we have another woman president, Mary McAleese now. But the role of the Irish president, like the German one, is largely ceremonial, so addressing her is probably best confined to her name, Mary McAleese: simple and egalitarian. As befits a simple nation!

Interestingly, the national Newspaper of Record, The Irish Times, appointed a female editor for the first time about two years ago. Up to this, all the letters therein were addressed "Sir". Since her appointment, that was changed to "Madam".

[Edited 2006-11-12 23:18:00]

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 15):
i think it is Madam Speaker.

That's correct - pronounced MAD-am.

-Mir



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