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GOP Puts Lott Back In Leadership  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

Showing that the Republicans in the Senate didn't learn a thing by ousting Lott for his 1940's-type remarks a few years back, and not learning a thing from the election just passed, they put in old bigot Trent Lott back into Leadership.

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/...15309990002?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Instead of looking for new ideas, they turn to old, stale, bigoted ones. How quaint.

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Looks like the Pascagoula Putz is getting a second chance. I guess it was only a matter of time, because no matter how stupid he can be, Trent Lott does yeoman's work for his party.


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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

For reference, here are the remarks:

"Tremendous political controversy ensued following remarks Lott made on December 5, 2002 at the 100th birthday party of Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina. Thurmond ran for President of the United States in 1948 on the Dixiecrat (or States' Rights) ticket. Lott said:

"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

"You keep same-ing when you ought to be changing"
- Nancy Sinatra

The GOP status quo cost them my vote, and that of my wife in '06. I do not disagree with a conservative view on most issues but the party does seem to have been hijacked.

I guess I'll have to get used to saying "President Clinton" again. I had gone along thinking that Hilary was the one and only way the Dems could screw themselves out of the Whitehouse in '08. Now the Repubs come along and make a huge move in her favor.

Hey Dubya, I think your "architect" forgot to put in a sewer.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2465 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Instead of looking for new ideas, they turn to old, stale, bigoted ones. How quaint.

You know, I hate to disagree here... BUT...

If you look at the Republicans NOW -vs- when Lott was in charge, well, who won when? I HATE to say this, but under MY Senator's leadership, Mr. Frist, the Republicans lost their way, spending out the whazoo, no big plan on immigration from the Senate, not making tax cuts permanent, and the corruption scandals of late, it's no wonder why some Republicans are saying, "lets go back 4-6 years ago when we were unstoppable" -vs- what we had the last 4 or so years...

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 3):
"Tremendous political controversy ensued following remarks Lott made on December 5, 2002 at the 100th birthday party of Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina. Thurmond ran for President of the United States in 1948 on the Dixiecrat (or States' Rights) ticket. Lott said:

"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either."

And that is NO WAY worse than what Howard Dean said about Republicans filling a room with African Americans ONLY if the wait staff was there...

or Charlie Wrangle, just the other day, "Who the hell wants to live in Mississippi,"

Or Robert "KKK" Byrd being a leader of the KKK.



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User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2452 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Showing that the Republicans in the Senate didn't learn a thing by ousting Lott for his 1940's-type remarks a few years back, and not learning a thing from the election just passed, they put in old bigot Trent Lott back into Leadership.

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/...15309990002?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Instead of looking for new ideas, they turn to old, stale, bigoted ones. How quaint.

Unfortunately, Falcon is right on this one. Republicans in Congress sure didn't get the message from voters last Tuesday, because bringing back Lott is an absolutely horrible decisions.

Let's count the ways:

1). Greasy pol with no morals, ethics or principles.
2). Spends like a drunken sailor.
3). Does too much back-room maneuvering and arm-wristing in smoke-filled rooms, and again has no bedrock principles.
4). Allows Democrats to pin the crook angle on the Republicans for another election cycle.

I have browsed the right wing blogosphere (where I live other than A.net!!) and everyone is up in arms on this.

Again, a horrible decision and one that the Hill Republicans will live to regret.



Tort reform now. Throw lawyers in jail later.
User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 9):
Again, a horrible decision and one that the Hill Republicans will live to regret.

I guess we will see.. but as I said before, Frist wasn't any better, and Lott's opponent this time was, again, MY other Senator, Lamar Alexander, and while he's far from being a Rhino, he's no more conservative than Frist... we would have had more of the same with him..

BTW.. Lamar's signature is on my UT Diploma... love him to death, but I don't think he'd be any better than Frist on this issue...



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User currently offlineOU812 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 9):
Again, a horrible decision and one that the Hill Republicans will live to regret.

The only regret I have is that the republicans gave in to the lib dems & allowed Lott to be ousted . I'm happy to see him back !

But look at this ???  eyebrow 
See what Murtha was doing in 1980 ? And Pelosi wants this guy as a top dem !!!

 rotfl 

http://www.aei.org/publications/filter.all,pubID.25140/pub_detail.asp

Choosing Murtha Is No Way to Start the Most Ethical Congress

It is a Jan. 7, 1980, video taken by the FBI during the Abscam sting, and it shows Murtha meeting with agents disguised as Middle Eastern businessmen running an outfit they called Abdul Enterprises and offering cash for political favors, including asylum for one posing as an Arab sheik. They offered $50,000 in cash to Members of Congress for helping them, and a number of Members took the money eagerly. One Senator and six House Members ultimately were convicted of charges including bribery and conspiracy.

Murtha was one of the lawmakers targeted by the FBI. He ultimately was not charged after he cooperated with the FBI and helped implicate some of the other Members. The ethics committee voted along party lines not to bring ethics charges against him--causing the panel's special counsel, E. Barrett Prettyman Jr., to resign in protest. Murtha since has talked proudly about how he resisted the offers of cash for favors, portraying himself as a hero.


User currently offlineOU812 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

Go & read it for yourself !

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10426

Special Report
The Full Transcript From January 7, 1980

Published 9/29/2006 12:06:09 AM
Editor's Note: This is a transcript of the full Abscam investigation video of Congressman John Murtha's January 7, 1980 meeting with undercover FBI agents. The agents are posing as representatives of wealthy Arab sheiks willing to pay to obtain asylum in the United States. The times listed below follow the timestamp on the screen.


Warning: This transcript contains adult language.

[Initial entry, 09:04:54-09:06:02: Amoroso preps the video.]

VOICE OFF SCREEN: Go ahead, Tony.

AMOROSO: This is Special Agent Anthony Amoroso, Jr., Federal Bureau of Investigation. Today's date is January 7, 1980. Location: a townhouse, in Washington, D.C. In a short while, I am expecting a meeting between myself, Mel Weinberg, Howard Criden, and U.S. Congressman John Murtha. In front of me is $50,000 in five packets. Each packet contains $10,000 in $100 bills. I am placing this money in the desk drawer directly in front of me. This money will remain in such position until the termination of my meeting, which is to take place later on this morning.

[Beginning, 11:44:00]

[Clockwise around the room: FBI Agent Tony Amoroso undercover as "Tony DeVito," Philadelphia attorney Howard Criden, Congressman John P. Murtha, and Mel Weinberg, the "sting man."]

[11:44:00 - 11:51:27: Conversation about finding developments for his district, cheap hotel recommendations, and mining.]

AMOROSO [11:51:27]: Sounds like this would be a good way of, if we invest of helping you out in a position that we want you to take with us, by saying, "Hey, this is why I'm standing up for these people..."

CRIDEN: Exactly.

AMOROSO: "Is that there's investment"

CRIDEN: That's exactly what we're talking about.

MURTHA: That's exactly what I have to have. In other words, I've gotta have a key to be able. I've been so involved in these things that I -- and I've talked to Howard in some length about this -- you've gotta have a key. And the key is, as long as it's in my district, I don't give a shit what extent we have to go to or what length, and everybody else feels the same way. So we gotta have something in the district...


User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

As much as Lott and the GOP want to shoot themselves in the foot, I agree that Murtha and friends are the best enemies to have, as Murtha is a toxic brew of arrogance, unprincipled corruptness, and is the "boy toy" of Nancy Pelosi!

"Abscam" Murtha, what a joke!
Good ole boy Lott, what a joke!

Washington makes me ill.



Tort reform now. Throw lawyers in jail later.
User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3069 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

I've said this before.The close timing of racist comments by both,Trent
Lott and basketball star Shaqille O Neal,had me made come to the conclusion
about the hypocrites in the media.

Race Ideological thinking:
Forgiven=Democrats
Unforgiven=Repubilicans,please resign.

The media are racists.

Even Bill Walton said out of concern during a telecast
in regards to the timing of both Lott and O'neal remarks.
"Either you have a policy or you don't"
Both men are guilty. Why is O' Neal still allowed on the floor?



Tuesday's Off! Do not disturb.
User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

To you Dems...

in ALL SERIOUSNESS...

who would you have wanted to put in charge of the Minority Party of the Senate??

Trent Lott has shown results (elections), but I understand why he isn't all that popular..

So who?

Lamar Alexander?
John McCain? (He's too busy running for Prez)
Arlen Specter?


Who would be a GOOD GOP leader in the Senate?



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2392 times:

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 9):
1). Greasy pol with no morals, ethics or principles.
2). Spends like a drunken sailor.
3). Does too much back-room maneuvering and arm-wristing in smoke-filled rooms, and again has no bedrock principles.
4). Allows Democrats to pin the crook angle on the Republicans for another election cycle.

Um, that's pretty much everyone in Congress except for Ron Paul, R-Texas.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 17):

Arlen Specter.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting OU812 (Reply 11):



Quoting OU812 (Reply 12):

Nice work finding unbiased sources there Libturdslayer  sarcastic 



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User currently offlineOU812 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
Nice work finding unbiased sources there Libturdslayer

You actually think the Liberal media is going to report this ? NOT !


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting OU812 (Reply 21):
You actually think the Liberal media is going to report this ? NOT !

I hadn't looked on the Daily Koz today Libturd.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3862 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

who would you have wanted to put in charge of the Minority Party of the Senate??

Lincoln Chafee
Olympia Snowe
Susan Collins



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting OU812 (Reply 21):
You actually think the Liberal media is going to report this ? NOT !

So did the conservative media:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229573,00.html

So, what's your point?

And can you do better for a handle than an old Van Halen Album?


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
Nice work finding unbiased sources there Libturdslayer

Since when is a video, that is easily found for those who care to look for them, biased?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
I hadn't looked on the Daily Koz today

First day you miss it? Or did they also not report it?

Quoting Texdravid (Reply 9):

I have checked a few sources and found no direct evidence of corruption leveled against Lott.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 3):

Where in the statement is there a racist component? And what are you suppossed to say at a person's 100th birhtday celebration?

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
Arlen Specter.

The way you have behaved politically lately makes me believe that it would not take long for you to later find something horribly wrong later with him. And Falcon, don't disappear from other discussions when your opinions conflict. After all, success in Iraq is a LOSS for Iran.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 25):

If he screws up, I'll critisize him.

And what are you talking about with the second part?


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

The issues that cost Lott his earlier leadership position where so much horsepucky it was unbelievable.

I for one am glad to see him moving back into the leadership.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 26):
If he screws up, I'll critisize him

Making my point exactly, you'll find some reason to dislike him.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 26):
And what are you talking about with the second part?

http://www1.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1435658/


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 28):

So, if he didn't screw up, I coudln't critisize him? Uh, OK.

And you showed me, really, nothing with the Iran thread. Nothing at all. Get a grip, dude.


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 29):
So, if he didn't screw up, I coudln't critisize him?

Let me see, if he didn't screw up, you couldn't criticize him. I still don't know exactly what you mean. But all I can say is you have done this, and this is from watching you for months.

GOP does it = Bad
Dems do it = Good

Example, as stated above, Iran. A success is Iraq would weaken the mullahs in Iran. You are not happy with the way the mullahs are acting. But at the same time, you are in complete and utter disagreement with what happened in Iraq, even though its success would be an utter defeat for a system (Iran) you vehemently oppose. You are going polar on us, going at 180 degrees, oppossing things which you should normally agree with just because its coming from a party you dont agree with.

It is pretty obvious from some recent threads, specially about the John Murtha one, where a group that you agree with opposes him. Your answer was: "Sounds like GOP sour grapes on here". When you could have had the chance to show that at least you are not a partisan.


25 Post contains images OU812 : Good Morning Oh look , a happy liberal ! What's my point ? While it was the DNC's main talking point of the election [corruption] . Miss Pelosi is at
26 Falcon84 : I'm a happy PERSON, dude. Unfortunately, you're entire being is revolving around terms, not people-they're "liberal" or "conservative", not people to
27 Post contains images Allstarflyer : One step backward, two steps backward. Wait! Wait! I mean, one step forward, two steps backward. Wait, wait, that's not it!! I mean . . . . Single-bu
28 UALPHLCS : I see Democrats can forgive, Gerry Studds for boinking an underage page. They can forgive Jack Murtha, or Alcee Hastings. They can forgive Barney Fra
29 Cfalk : You just put it all together better than I could. I look forward to our resident Dems defending the double standard.
30 Superfly : Picking Trent Lott as there Whip was a dumb idea and this guarantees the GOP minority status for quite sometime to come. Yes, Trent Lott helped the GO
31 UALPHLCS : How does Robert Byrd maintain his credibility with Democrats (especially the the African American Democrat voting block) when he was a grand wizard i
32 Post contains images N1120A : Actually, he was an Exalted Cyclops The difference is that Bob Byrd renounced his racist roots a long time ago, much like the way Hugo Black did long
33 AndesSMF : Like I said, and have received no response, this remark was made during the 100th birthday celebration for Strom, a moment when the remarks will only
34 UALPHLCS : And then Trent Lott apologized for the short-sighted statement. Hmmmm. Would it have been better for him to have claimed it was a joke and angrily de
35 Post contains images UH60FtRucker : I think what a lot of you are forgetting is that Senator Lott is a very effective parliamentarian. Everyone is so focused on attacking/defending him,
36 Cfalk : Strom Thurmond was a racist, but he was also someone who supported a strong and vigorous national defence policy. He was one of the moving forces beh
37 Post contains images OU812 : Agreed, IMHO, it was the beginning of the end for the GOP when the dems were able to oust Lott & ended the party which held my respect . Of coure , I
38 Post contains images Superfly : Thanks for bringing that up. I wont even waste my time with the others defending him because if they still have to ask, they'll never fully understan
39 AndesSMF : You're welcome! Good to have a different point of view as well. My ears are open for your take and why.
40 Post contains links Cfalk : Here's more proof that the Democrats desire to make Washington less corrupt is just hot air. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...itics/congress/fin
41 Superfly : Oh boy. I guess I have to give a crash-course in US history but I dont have the time right now. In the mean time, how about doing some research on bo
42 AndesSMF : I did my reading on Strom last night, and frankly found interesting information about him. At least he treated his first daughter fairly well, and hi
43 Post contains links and images OU812 : What about Richard KKK Byrd ? Why haven't the Dems asked him to step down ??? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2005/06/18/AR2005061801105_pf.ht
44 Cfalk : I think we've learned by now that Democrats have no shame.
45 Post contains images OU812 : Not to mention the Liberal media ! While I was browsing the internet . I happened on a [recent] CBS article regarding Martha . Not one word mentioned
46 Post contains images GuitrThree : That's why I love 'ya fly.. you acually answer my (and others) questions with what you honestly think!! You're wrong, of course, but at least you ans
47 N1120A : So what. He shouldn't have made the remarks in the first place. He should have thanked Mr. Thurmond for his service as a senator and his ability to o
48 UALPHLCS : Hmmm. Do you feel the same way about Kerry?
49 Post contains images Cfalk : Of course not. Kerry was misinterpreted. Lott meant every word. signed, N1120A
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