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Help There Is A Bear In My Yard  
User currently offlineCharger From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 273 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

Well we now have a visitor that comes by a few times every day. A black bear. He wanders down out of the woods and hangs around.

He was originally getting into the garbage cans, so I went out and bought one of those large plastic cabinets that are supposed to be bear proof. Yeah right. It didn't last 10 minutes when he showed up. He literally ripped it apart. So now I moved the garbage cans into the garage, and now he is sniffing around the garage door.

When we originally seen him in the yard, he would run off back into the woods as soon as he saw us. Now he is not scared and just stands there and stares at us.

We have tried several things to get rid of him, but nothing worked. We have called animal control every time we see him in the yard, but by the time they show up he is long gone. They have told us that several of the neighbors are complaining and the bear will be put down when they catch him, because he has become a nuisance, But ironically it is illegal for me to shot him or harm him, and I have been sternly warned that I would be charged if I do anything to him. Doesn't make sense to me but, oh well.

So now my wife is freaking out, the kids can't go outside by themselves, neither can our dogs. When my wife gets home from working the night shift she sits in her car and honks the horn and I have to go out to the driveway and walk her in.

Is there anyway to get rid of the bear? Should I leave poison out? Is there anything I can do?

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User currently offlineTZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2869 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4388 times:

I would call the local wildlife office. Usually they have a list of ideas and hints on how to get the bear to leave. If the bear doesn't leave, they'll come and take care of it (hopefully by not shooting it).


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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4388 times:

Put big ass fences up? Such as...

http://elcarfence.com/images/elcar_comm1_big.jpg



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User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4378 times:



-YWG Big grin



Contact Winnipeg center now on 134.4, good day.
User currently offlineAC777LR From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 487 posts, RR: 40
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4372 times:

Yeah I sent it there to bring back that Charger SRT-8!!!


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User currently offlineCharger From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4365 times:

Quoting TZ757300 (Reply 1):
If the bear doesn't leave, they'll come and take care of it (hopefully by not shooting it).

We've had the local animal control here, the state animal control here and even forrest rangers from the state park department. They haven't been able to catch him yet. They unfortunately said that the bear will be destroyed as he has become a nuisance.

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 2):
Put big ass fences up? Such as...

I have 5 foot fences on three sides of the property and the bear actually just climbs over them. I will try to post some pics of him tomorrow.

Quoting YWG" class=quote target=_blank>YWG (Reply 3):
YWG

Sorry I don't plan on getting that close to him. Big grin

Quoting AC777LR (Reply 4):
Yeah I sent it there to bring back that Charger SRT-8!!!

You'll have to do better than that. Big grin


User currently offlineBezoar From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 807 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

Found this:

"Loud noises such as sudden bursts from foghorns, gunshots, or yelling helps. Place a Jalape–o or Haba–ero pepper in a Twinkie and throw it out for the bear. It makes the bear sick and they associate being sick with coming to your location."



"There are none so blind as those who will not see."
User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4353 times:

Quoting Charger (Thread starter):
Is there anyway to get rid of the bear?





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User currently offlineRichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4345 times:

Sorry, I thought you said there was a beer in your yard. My bad

User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

Well if you have a gun and you're not allowed to actually kill it could you safely fire a few rounds over it's head?

User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

Doesn't matter if it's illegal or not, if your life or that of someone in your family is in danger, kill the animal. It would be hard to imagine a judge who would put you in jail for protecting human life from a wild animal.

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

Quoting Charger (Thread starter):
so I went out and bought one of those large plastic cabinets that are supposed to be bear proof.

 rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl 

I'm quite sure if the bear is a threat to your property you can legally shoot to kill. By threat I mean, if the bear attempts to or in fact enters your residence, etc.

Otherwise, just let Fish and Feathers deal with it.

Yes, unfortunately, this bruin will likely be put down. It happens here often. Not a lot, but often. Once or twice a year a bear will get overly ambitious and have to be put down.

Wouldn't hurt to get some bear spray and keep it handy . . . .


User currently offlineHalcyon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

We've had them break into our cabin. If it's repeated they die.





Above is where another bear TRIED to get in...through a window. My mom was quite pissed.






A nice buck that ran by.


Lucas  Smile


User currently offlineCharger From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4249 times:

Quoting RichPhitzwell (Reply 8):
Sorry, I thought you said there was a beer in your yard. My bad

Believe me I would have no problem if it was a beer in my yard. Big grin


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4246 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
By threat I mean, if the bear attempts to or in fact enters your residence, etc.

Maybe it's just selling aluminum siding.

I was going to say "Send for ANCFlyer", but he has clearly renounced his bear-harrassing ways and is a reformed character.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4237 times:

Get some OC spray from a self defense store or some bear spray from an outdoors store and spray it all over your garbage. That's what he is there for. Make it extreamly unappetizing. Of course, don't go downwind of your garbage.  Wink

User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 4215 times:

Quoting Charger (Thread starter):
Is there anything I can do?

I would call Nacy Pelosi's office. She seems to have the answer for everything.


User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

Go up to him and ask if he really shits in the woods  biggrin 


"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline." Frank Zappa
User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4166 times:

Just have ANCFlyer pop the bear with a few cans of Alaskan Amber Lager, empty of course, then again his aim might be off.  Wink

Get the spray, if that fails get the gun. I'd hate to kill an animal, but if your life is in danger, fill it with metal.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13138 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4126 times:

I live in Northern New Jersey, and know of several people who live in areas in the counties that border NYS not 50 miles from you whom have had close enough encounters of bears near their homes that they stained their undies.
Unfortunately here, there was no hunting of the bears for 30 years after they were almost made extinct from development and hunting. But now 30 years of more protected areas, and development near those areas but not allowing bear hunting, you have a lot of bears harassing people and looking for easy food sources. Then the animal lovers get to the politicians to ban or not allow a bear hunt which would be a proper management technique so we have more bears around to propagate more of them to harass people.
Maybe a handheld air horn like used on boats would work to scare the furry monsters. Meanwhile, just be careful...


User currently offlineCharger From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4118 times:

I would like to first thank everyone for their ideas.

Our problem with the bear has been resolved today. The bear was hit by a car as it was running across the road. Unfortunately the bear didn't die right away and we had to wait for the local police come out and shoot him.

Although the bear was a pain, it was sad to see him go this way. Laying there struggling to get up until the police showed up was very sad. (Yeah I know I'm just a softy).

Anyway he was loaded on a flatbed and taken away.


User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4110 times:

I am by no means an expert, but I do live in bear country, but brown bear country. They come into my yard a few times a year, but the best way to deal with them is to make sure there are no sources of food for them. This includes, trash cans, bird feeders, family pets, gasoline jugs(yes they will drink it)

Quoting Charger (Thread starter):
one of those large plastic cabinets that are supposed to be bear proof.

Plastic and bear proof should not be included in the same sentance.

Quoting Charger (Thread starter):
Now he is not scared and just stands there and stares at us.

That is when they are second most dangerous. They are most dangerous when surprised, but when they lose thier general fear of humans is when the authorities decide that a bear needs to be removed.

Quoting Charger (Thread starter):
she sits in her car and honks the horn and I have to go out to the driveway and walk her in.

Why so you both can get eaten?
Just remember, you dont have to be the fastest, just not to slowest.
All joking aside, if the bear is close to you, running away is dangerous for you. It triggers its predatory instinct. You are better to stand up straight and back away slowly. In the case of black bears, they say one is supposed to fight back against the bear if a human is attacked. Which is different from brown/grizzly bears.

Quoting Charger (Thread starter):
Is there anyway to get rid of the bear?

I dont really reccomend this in a residential area, but a can of bug fogger and some bacon grease will ruin that bear's day for sure.

Quoting Charger (Thread starter):
Should I leave poison out?

No because family pets and other unintended victims could result.

Quoting YWG (Reply 3):



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
Wouldn't hurt to get some bear spray and keep it handy . .

Trust me, bear spray isnt all its cracked up to be. Its effectiveness isnt certain, and you are just as likely to have it come back at you than using it and having it done cleanly.
I would check the local game regs. Here in AK, if a bear is attacking your pets, livestock etc, you can shoot it on the spot. You might get a small ticket, but I would say worth it for that. I am not sure how you feel about guns and what kind you might have. But realistically dont go out and buy some huge hand cannon that you are not %10,000 comfortable shooting in a high stress setting. You are better off with a .357 that you can hit something with that a 454 that makes you flinch before you pull the trigger. Personally, at my house, inside the arctic entryway sits a Remington 870 12 gauge with the magazine plug removed. Chamber is empty, but the first round loaded is a slug, followed up by 3 rounds of 00buck. I have yet the need to fire a shot in anger at one in my yard. But the neighbors on both sides of me, who have lived at that location for 20 years a piece of each fired warning shots in the air. My theory on using a firearm for a bear is to shoot to kill first, ask questions later. You wont have the time and will be under tremendous stress under the circumstances should it come to that. I hope it doesnt though. Just keep calling fish and game department. In the meantime bring pet food, bird food and anything that can be remotely seen as food for the bear inside, and talk to you neighbors about doing the same. A bear in the neighborhood is not an individual problem, it is a neighborhood problem. If one person leaves trash out it will keep coming back.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 21):
A bear in the neighborhood is not an individual problem, it is a neighborhood problem. If one person leaves trash out it will keep coming back.

There are hefty fines in Anchorage for leaving trash out the night before pickup . . . because of the bear problem it creates.

Something I was curious about . . . . aren't bears in NY into hibernation yet? Our bruins here are long gone to sleep for the winter.

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 21):
Just remember, you dont have to be the fastest, just not to slowest.

 checkmark   rotfl  And if you're unsure, just cap your buddy in the knee . . . evens up the odds a bit.  biggrin 


User currently offlineGlydrflyr From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 22):
Something I was curious about . . . . aren't bears in NY into hibernation yet? Our bruins here are long gone to sleep for the winter.

The weather has been so warm (71 F on Friday) that the bears are still out doing their last minute shopping. Bears have become so numerous that we see them at least three times a month, mostly in rural or semi-rural areas, but two days ago there was one walking along the I-78 shoulder around dawn that caused a minor slow down in traffic while the drivers took a good look to make sure that it was a bear they saw.



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