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British Rocker Says UK Troops Should Stop "Crying"  
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

The leader of a best-selling rock group has publicly said that British troops should stop complaining after being injured in action, according to a recent news story. Noel Gallagher of the British band, Oasis, also criticized Prime Minister Blair for leading the country into Iraq.

It sounds to me that Mr. Gallagher has plenty of invective to spare.

See:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061121...pentertainmentbritain_061121132054

[Edited 2006-11-22 01:51:42]

38 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2751 times:

Just another out of touch, washed up musician, with his own issues that need to be dealt with spouting off on something he probably doesnt understand. Upon reading the article it is obvious he is just spouting off to gain publicity for the release of the greatest hits album from Oasis. He took the shotgun approach on offending people. Idiots like this it is best to smile, nod and generally ignore.

User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

I remember at the height of Oasis' popularity they were on Muchmusic (Canada's version of MTV) and Noel was constantly whining like a little bitch about wanting to go home. Maybe he was a afraid of snow...

Kris



Word
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
British Rocker Says UK Troops Should Stop "Crying"

Just by the title alone, I knew it had to be Noel.....



And I pretty much agree with everything he said. He truly is (as the NME dubbed him) "The Wisest Man In Rock".


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 1):
Upon reading the article it is obvious he is just spouting off to gain publicity for the release of the greatest hits album from Oasis.



Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 2):
I remember at the height of Oasis' popularity they were on Muchmusic (Canada's version of MTV) and Noel was constantly whining like a little bitch about wanting to go home. Maybe he was a afraid of snow...



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 3):
He truly is (as the NME dubbed him) "The Wisest Man In Rock".

Thanks for your comments, guys.

Up to today, I truly had never heard of Noel Gallagher, although I do think I'd heard of Oasis. He obviously is a man of strong opinions.

I agree that much of these opinions is quite possibly tied to the creation of publicity of their new album.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21406 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

He's trying to defend a hard-earned reputation as one of the most repulsive individuals in contemporary music. But even that gets old eventually...!  crazy 

User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

He is a complete tit, as far as i'm concerned.

I read his intrview in a newspaper yesterday - he said "If soldiers don't like to get shot, then why do they join the army"  Angry

He has absolutely no idea how it feels to be shot (or shot at), maybe he should give military service a go....

Besides, I joined up for a reason, to serve my country. If I'm killed in action, at least I would die proud.




Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 40
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

Apparently he did not say all these things. He is vigorously denying most of the comments, although he did say that if you join the army, expect to get shot at.


Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

To be fair - he is right - simple as that. The papers will whip it up so that he is accused of being unpatriotic and ungrateful, when in fact he is talking sense for the most part.


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

Blur were better.

User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2586 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 1):
Just another out of touch, washed up musician,

Actually, Oasis aren't washed up at all and have another album coming out soon? You heard Masterplan lately?

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 6):
read his intrview in a newspaper yesterday - he said "If soldiers don't like to get shot, then why do they join the army"

He's right though isn't he? In his defence what he said has been twisted as it has come out today. Liam is the tit if you ask me, Noel is the better of the bunch and fairly down to earth.

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 6):
He has absolutely no idea how it feels to be shot (or shot at), maybe he should give military service a go....

Well I think he can imagine it and that is why he isn't in the army but is making millions from being the talented musician he is?

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 9):
Blur were better.

Pah, 'Roll with it' should have been number 1 and you know it.



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2581 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 6):
Besides, I joined up for a reason, to serve my country. If I'm killed in action, at least I would die proud.

Pur-lease! you joined up for all the muscular women wearing boots, carrying guns, all sweaty and stuff.

Cheer,
Kyle

[Edited 2006-11-22 13:40:21]

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 10):
Pah, 'Roll with it' should have been number 1 and you know it.

Ugh. Both songs were dire, and way below their best stuff. At least Blur weren't gratuitous in the way they nicked everyone else's stuff.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2530 times:

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 11):
Pur-lease! you joined up for all the muscular women wearing boots, carrying guns, all sweaty and stuff.


Yeah, right  grumpy 



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineThomson735 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

He is a total w***** always has been , i remember when that dude ash-trayed his face in Germany i think when he gobbed off at a rather large bloke, i realised then he was a cock

But i kinda see one of his points, troops cant moan, they are in the army, if they are led in to a battle then thats it they signed up wasn't forced on them so deal with it,

I dont want to be shot at and bombed, so i didn't join the army, all i can say is thank god we have these very brave men that are willing to protect us

Regards


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Quoting Thomson735 (Reply 14):
He is a total w***** always has been , i remember when that dude ash-trayed his face in Germany i think when he gobbed off at a rather large bloke, i realised then he was a cock

That was Liam rather than Noel, wasn't it? You do often wonder what Liam is for....



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 9):
Blur were better.

At the time of the (in)famous Blur v. Oasis rivalry, I thought Blur was better. In retrospect, Oasis is better. (What's The Story) Morning Glory still holds up 11 years later while The Great Escape sounds dated. The only other "Britpop" acts of that era whose albums still hold up today (At least in my opinion) are Moseley Shoals by Ocean Color Scene and Stanley Road by Paul Weller. These albums were more straight forward rock than pop (Like albums from Blur, Elastica, Pulp, Menwe@r, and so on) and rock always stands the test of time.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 16):
The only other "Britpop" acts of that era whose albums still hold up today (At least in my opinion) are Moseley Shoals by Ocean Color Scene and Stanley Road by Paul Weller. These albums were more straight forward rock than pop (Like albums from Blur, Elastica, Pulp, Menwe@r, and so on) and rock always stands the test of time.

In fairness, the Britpop thing wasn't that great, either at the time or in retrospect. It was no where near as great as the indie/alternative scene in the late 80s and early 90s.

That being said, Different Class was a good album.


User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 16):
The only other "Britpop" acts of that era whose albums still hold up today (At least in my opinion)

I would counter with a little band called Radiohead, and the gem they put out in '95, the Bends.

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 10):
Actually, Oasis aren't washed up at all and have another album coming out soon? You heard Masterplan lately?

Fair enough, I am not really paying much attention to the current music scene. But when you start releasing greatest hits albums, the next step is playing state fairs. I do enjoy thier stuff from 10 years ago, but I still stand my point that this is nothing more than him doing a little self-promotion for the upcoming release.


User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9766 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2415 times:
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Quoting Myt332 (Reply 10):
Liam is the tit if you ask me, Noel is the better of the bunch and fairly down to earth.



Quoting Banco (Reply 15):

That was Liam rather than Noel, wasn't it? You do often wonder what Liam is for....

Most of the ridiculously stupid stuff you hear about Oasis was due to Liam, not Noel. Liam was/is a lazy bastard, while Noel actually tried to keep the band going. Opinionated? Yes.



"Two and a Half Men" was filmed in front of a live ostrich.
User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2405 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 18):

I would counter with a little band called Radiohead, and the gem they put out in '95, the Bends.

I don't consider them to be a Britpop band. Radiohead was basically pigeon-holed into the Britpop genre because they just happened to be there during the formative years of the main wave of the movement (Much like The Jam got pigeon-holed early on as a punk band). Their music didn't really fit in with the genre at all.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2348 times:

It occurs to me that with the state of American popular music the way it is now, we may be due for another "British invasion". With the exception of country music, much of what I hear in pop -- even the "edgy" kind -- seems to me recycled, tired, and boring. In some ways, that includes trance, as well.

British music has always had a great influence on the pop scene here in "the Colonies".


User currently offlineLinco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2330 times:

Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 19):
Opinionated? Yes

Indeed this all is. He is right, in an off the cuff way. Which is the way he meant it. Are you offended by what he said? Well if you are, I think you're taking it personally when you shouldn't.

I used to hate Oasis, basically because my older brother listened to it CONSTANTLY when he lived at home. But I love them now, my favourite band by far. The are incredibly honest. I've watched hundreds of interviews, seen them live twice, and listen to their music nearly everyday. Live, they are up there with the best. IN MY OPINION. Their attitudes got them where they are today. Yes there are twats sometimes, but them so is everyone. Even me  Wink


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13165 posts, RR: 78
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

And Noel would know all about this wouldn't he? Where did he read this, some tabloid?

Having said this, he is often witty and a good interviwer, unlike his much further down the evolutionary scale brother.

1994 seems longer than 12 years ago, Oasis were a much needed blast when they appeared, a friend at work saw them on 'The Word', reckoned they'd be worth seeing since they were playing the small 'Old Trought' venue in Windsor.
(Sadly closed the following year, great place to see bands, often quite successful ones).

So got tickets from a nearby record shop.
Just as well, the place was heaving, and Oasis were literally a blast.
One of the best gigs I've ever been to
Another friend, who ignored our 'get a ticket' advice couldn't get in, along with 100's of others.
Fantastic show, in a venue that at most, held about 200 people, up there seeing the unknown (to me), Stone Roses at Brunel University in 1989.
Next saw them in the June, at another now closed venue, the Marquee in Central London.
Bumped into Liam before they went on, had a chat.

Then two months later, at the Forum in North London.
Near to Christmas, at the Palais nightclub in Hammersmith, West London, the best Oasis gig I went to.

The first album was great, almost up there with 'Never Mind The Bollocks'.

Saw them at the seminal Earls Court show in 1995, within a few days of each other, at Brighton and Bornemouth at the end of the year.
Those early singles, usually had 3 other tracks that were often as good as the single, you thought either Noel was a new great songwriter, or he's putting all his good stuff too soon.
Turned out to be the latter.

Unlike the general public, who brought 'What's The Story' in the millions, I was lukewarm on it.
It needed those tracks that had been recent B sides.
Saw the classic Knebworth show in 1996, not a great Oasis performance though, The Prodigy blew them off the stage.

Then that awful, cocaine addled, overblown, unfocussed 3rd album, and the Earls Court show that year, 1997, was not a patch on 2 years before.
As an album, the 3rd one was a good E.P.

Lost interest after that, saw them as part of Reading 2000, put did not hang about.
Certainly not brought any of their albums.

[Edited 2006-11-28 19:23:09]

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

What is it about celebrities that gives them "omniscience" concerning current events?

Perhaps nothing. And yet their words do resound in the public sphere, simply because they are well-known.

It is, possibly, best to take their comments in that light.


25 Fumanchewd : Oasis? Weren't they that 90s band who ripped off the Beatles? No talent.
26 Srbmod : I missed my first chance to catch them here in Atlanta back in early 1995. They played at the Masquerade, a venue that holds several hundred. My frie
27 777236ER : People like you giving them the publicity they want?
28 Post contains images Vikkyvik : Absolutely nothing. They have opinions, same as everyone else. Theirs are just more often aired in front of a microphone. You don't have to listen. A
29 Cedarjet : Tough call cos Oasis were unquestionably the better band, Blur were middle class art school bourgeous playing at being Mockneys. But I have to say, O
30 AerospaceFan : Technically, they don't have to air their opinions, either.
31 Linco22 : Thats your opinion and I think they do. Its why they have survivied this long isn't it? Of course they sound like the beatles, thats their sound. Wha
32 DABZF : For me he is correct saying that people shouldn't join the army if they don't like to be shot at. In UK you have a choice of joining the army or not.
33 Post contains images Banco : It's a little bit too close for my liking. It's one thing being influenced, it's another to start lifting wholesale riffs off their favourite band. T
34 Tom12 : Hell Yeh! Who is NG to tell ayone to stop crying? ... When he is in Iraq getting shot at on a daily basis or defusing road side bombs he can pass com
35 Linco22 : Better tell that to everyone who has no association with the armed forces then.... Banco, I don't think they are that close. I actually don't really
36 Vikkyvik : Technically, you don't have to air yours, either. He even stated something to the effect of "why write your own riffs when someone's already written
37 GDB : Well Cedarjet, I'd not call fighting the vile Taliban 'oil protection', rather 'finishing the job that should have been done before'. Was securing Pea
38 Banco : Still a fine live act Found them live to be studenty bollocksy noodling and faffing. Like listening to a pissed Ray Manzarek, or a third-form lot pra
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