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User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 14
Posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

I've been thinking about taking lessons on a stringed intrument, and have been mulling over the violin or cello, but leaning towards the cello. Do any of you have any tips or pointers that I should look for while I finalize my decision?

What methods did you learn with?

Also, while I've found some great student combos on eBay, would you say that I'm better off renting for the first 3-6 months?


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21625 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

Yeah, you're better off renting initially. You won't be good enough to get a good sound anyways, so the quality doesn't really matter that much, and if you decide that you really don't like it, it's easier to just return the instrument.

I'd go for the cello over the violin, but know that it is a pain in the ass to carry around with you.

-Mir



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User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
I'd go for the cello over the violin, but know that it is a pain in the ass to carry around with you.

Double Bass is much worse  Wink



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39879 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Quoting MattRB (Reply 2):
Double Bass is much worse

No it's much better. Just ask CastleIsland.



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User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Quoting MattRB (Reply 2):
Double Bass is much worse

Being that I've played several tenor/bass intruments, piano excluded, I wanted to stick to that range, plus I love the rumble of the low notes, but since I live in an apartment-style condo, that is out of the question, plus the cello goes low enough to suit my needs.

[Edited 2006-11-22 17:59:17]


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User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

i have played the cello since i was four and bass since i was nine.

so of course i'd say cello. definitely go for a rental initially because the sound wont matter a whole lot iniitally since nothing you play will sound awesome...as you'll be learning the technique and fingerings as well as endurance (using hands and arms which is in a different way than normal).

if you go to music shops with a good selection of cello music books, you can flip through as see the types of books that you have an interest in that deal with the beginner. some have more photos and detail than others...and some will be way too basic for you--a person who can read music.


User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
No it's much better. Just ask CastleIsland.

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Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 4):
Being that I've played several tenor/bass intruments, piano excluded, I wanted to stick to that range, plus I love the rumble of the low notes, but since I live in an apartment-style condo, that it out of the question, plus the cello goes low enough to suit my wants.

Golden: Go with 'cello. Having played doublebass for 14 years, I bought a viola a couple years ago, and the damn thing feels like a toy in my hands. I just can't squeeze my fingers onto that silly little trivial fingerboard.  Wink

Besides being far cooler sounding, the 'cello has an additional advantage over the violin/viola. Repetitive motion injury. Playing a 'cello is far more comfortable than cramming that box under your chin and making next door's dog howl at the moon.


User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 6):
I bought a viola a couple years ago, and the damn thing feels like a toy in my hands. I just can't squeeze my fingers onto that silly little trivial fingerboard.

I don't want to be the brunt of violinist's jokes, either. :P

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 6):
Besides being far cooler sounding, the 'cello has an additional advantage over the violin/viola.

I've been listening to Apocalyptica the past few days, and I must truly say that those cellists REALLY do a good job of cranking out Metallica songs.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39879 posts, RR: 74
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 7):
Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 6):
I bought a viola a couple years ago, and the damn thing feels like a toy in my hands. I just can't squeeze my fingers onto that silly little trivial fingerboard.

I don't want to be the brunt of violinist's jokes, either. :P

Seriously, what's wrong with the violin?
I love the sound of a violin. I like just about every instrument if played well.



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User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Seriously, what's wrong with the violin?

I love the sound of the violin. I just said that becuase I've read that those that play viola are often joked about by those who play the violin due to the bigger size/wider fret spacing, which makes transition a tad difficult.



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Seriously, what's wrong with the violin?



Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 9):
I love the sound of the violin. I just said that becuase I've read that those that play viola are often joked about by those who play the violin due to the bigger size/wider fret spacing, which makes transition a tad difficult

I love violin as well (David Cross/King Crimson '72-'74, baby!), but try going from DB to violin! On DB, my First position full step is about three and a half inches wide. Hell, you could play a full fifth or more on a violin over that distance.


User currently offlineSmithAir747 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1628 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2054 times:

My main instrument is the piano (I've been playing since 1984, when I was 8).

However, since I moved to London in 2004, I decided to take up the challenge of teaching myself the violin. So, in April 2005, I went to Hobgoblin Music on Rathbone Place, London, and picked up this beautiful green violin!



Since April 2005, I have been teaching myself the violin. Since I already have a lifelong musical background (classically trained & can read music), it makes it much easier to learn the violin.

I even write my own arrangements of songs for violin--religious, Irish, and other styles!

Someday, I plan to try and take up cello too!

SmithAir747

[Edited 2006-11-22 19:19:12]


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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

Even though I play the guitar, I'll weigh in here, I would personally play the violin, I have always like it better than the cello, however, that's probably just because some of my friends play the violin. But like has been said above, the violin is a lot easier to carry around.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39879 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2039 times:

Some of the coolest rock violin solos:

Time To Kill - U.K.

Losing It - RUSH



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

Ever hear of Antonio Pontarelli? The kid can make a violin scream like an electric guitar.





Mark


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

Damn, that kid is amazing, I wish I could play my electric guitar that well!

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Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2007 times:

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User currently offlineChrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1069 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

Cellist here, definately go with cello. No other string instrument comes close to the range of tone colours you can produce.


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User currently offlineTUSaadvantage From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

Why not go with the viola (thats what I play)? It has a nice lower range, like a cello, but isn't such a pain to transport. I also find it more comfortable to play than the violin because I have big hands and the spacing on the violin is tiny. Plus, if you ever get good enough, its much easier to find a viola gig than anything else. There is always a shortage of violists. I would recomment using the suzuki method first. Start at the first book and work your way up.

User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1954 times:

Okay, guys. I've settled on the cello. I talked with a lady at the local violin shop (which, oddly, is co-located with a paintball shop) and she recommended a teacher who teaches strictly cello.

Now, the hard part is what questions to ask. I've never done any formal lessons of any kind—save the ones I had in the first 3 weeks of band in Jr. High (after which, I rapidly rose up the ranks, but I digress,) so I'm not really sure what to ask. Schedule and cost are obvious ones, but I'm not sure what else.  boxedin 



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 19):
Now, the hard part is what questions to ask.

With a good teacher, there is no need to ask at this point. He/she will know what you need to know to get going with proper habits. That said, there are always a few things that are unique to an individual that need to be addressed. You'll figure these out as you go along. Keep a small journal and write the questions down as they arise. Now, a few important things:

Assuming you are right-handed:

Posture and left hand technique - do this correctly. Ask your teacher to go over this very clearly. 'Cello will present the possibility of carpal tunnel issues and other hand and arm problems. Take it from me, as I zapped my ulnar nerve playing doublebass about 4 years ago, and I had to stop playing for 6 months.

Right hand technique - unlike piano, your hands will be doing very dissimilar functions. You must learn how to separate your body, but not too far, as the motions must be complimentary. The right hand is far more important than the left. Repeat this many times.

Ask your teacher to teach you the instrument in the classical manner. Learn the old school. If you want to later fill it with whipped cream and blow it up on stage, that's fine, but learn as a purist.

A good teacher will typically run about $50 - $80 per hour. But there are plenty of good teachers out there for $30-$40 per hour.


User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7298 posts, RR: 85
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1937 times:
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User currently offlineTUSaadvantage From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

I play the skin flute.

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