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UMich Should Be #2: No Reasonable Arguments Left  
User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11274 posts, RR: 52
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

USC goes down AGAIN!!! Are you freakin' kidding me? Two losses to unranked teams? Can you say overrated?

I can.


It will be OSU-Michigan II - The REMATCH.

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[Edited 2006-12-03 01:54:55]


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

Quoting D L X (Thread starter):
It will be OSU-Michigan II - The REMATCH

BORING. You had your chance. If Florida wins they should play against OSU. You can try again next year.



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11274 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

Florida's not as good a team. Sorry, bub. They're good, but not as good.

If Florida somehow jumps Michigan in the polls, it will be because HUMAN pollsters didn't want to see a rematch, not because they didn't think Michigan was the second best team in the country. According to Slive, the National Championship Game is to set up the two best teams in the country, period. If Michigan doesn't go to Glendale, the BCS is officially a hack.



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
it will be because HUMAN pollsters didn't want to see a rematch, not because they didn't think Michigan was the second best team in the country.

So what? Florida has one loss and so does Michigan. Florida is just as good as UM is and should have the shot instead of letting UM go at it again. Head to head we'd beat UM in my opinion but unfortunately we'll never know now that USC has lost.

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
If Michigan doesn't go to Glendale, the BCS is officially a hack.

BS! If UM goes then the BCS is a hack. UM had their chance and lost it. Giving them a rematch is bogus and will just further the calls for a playoff system. It would be the least watched and least cared about football championship of all time.



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
Quoting D L X (Thread starter):It will be OSU-Michigan II - The REMATCH
BORING. You had your chance. If Florida wins they should play against OSU. You can try again next year.

Even though my prediction in Boston92's prediction game is OSU over Michigan, I reall don't relish watching what will likely be a boring and predictable game.

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
If Michigan doesn't go to Glendale, the BCS is officially a hack.

It already IS a hack. And a sham.


User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

As a Michigan fan, I'm biased that we should get a rematch with Ohio State in the BCS Championship Bowl. Florida has a good team this year but Michigan has a better team. Michigan's only loss was to #1 Ohio State (42-39) where Florida's was 27-17 Auburn which I believe was ranked #11.



-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineCMHSRQ From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 991 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2785 times:

17-14 UF over Arkansas in the 3rd. I really don't want OSU Michigan again, but I'm sorry to say OSU and Michigan are the 2 best teams in the country.


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

Quoting Delta767300ER (Reply 5):
Michigan's only loss was to #1 Ohio State (42-39) where Florida's was 27-17 Auburn which I believe was ranked #11.

BFD! Auburn had been in the top 5 the week before their loss to Arkansas. I can say you beat ND when they were #2 but where are they now?

At the end of the day UM lost and don't deserve another chance. Florida should at least be considered if they win tonight.



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

If we keep playing as we are right now we'll be stuck with a rematch whether we like it or not. What the hell is the deal with Leak?!


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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 7):
At the end of the day UM lost and don't deserve another chance. Florida should at least be considered if they win tonight.

It may all be academic after that interception and runback for a touchdown by Arkansas.

The only way Florida was going to get in the championship game is by blowing out Arkansas.


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 3):
If UM goes then the BCS is a hack. UM had their chance and lost it

 checkmark  i couldn't agree more!

On a personal level, i think the BCS is crap regardless of who play OSU in Gelndale!

-Zaki


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11274 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 3):
UM had their chance and lost it.

A rematch is not unprecedented, and has plenty of parallels in other sports. The Redskins beat the Seahawks in the regular season, and lost to them in the playoffs last year. Can you imagine the NFL being run by pollsters who said "the Seahawks can't play the Redskins in the playoffs because they already had their chance and lost it?" In your opinion, who deserved to go to the Superbowl? No question, the Seahawks. (And I bleed burgundy and gold. And maize. And blue. FWIW, I shit scarlet and gray. Actually, I take that back. That sounds like I have a problem.  Smile )

Anyways, I think you need a new argument. That one's not working anymore.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 7):
BFD! Auburn had been in the top 5 the week before their loss to Arkansas.

If you care about what a team's ranking WAS when you played them, why no mention of losing to an unranked (at the time) Arkansas? (I may be mistaken about their being unranked, but they certainly weren't top 10.)



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User currently offlineMonorail From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 625 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

To hell with all these one loss teams!
Both Ohio State and Boise State both came out of Divison 1A undefeated.
If we're always going to digress to ranking the one loss teams by the circumstances of their loss, then the undefeateds better come first.
OSU and BSU both won their conferences. Why should you be in the national championship game if you can't even take care of business within your conference. Look at the teams that have somehow sqeezed into the BCS championship game without even winning their conference. 2003 Oklahoma? Stuffed. 2001 Nebraska? Blown out.
So let's just make it OSU-BSU in Glendale and call it a day.  stirthepot 



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11274 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 9):
It may all be academic after that interception and runback for a touchdown by Arkansas.

HELLL YEAH!!!

(TO be quite honest, Florida, I don't hate you. I just want you to lose. Nothing personal.)

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 10):
On a personal level, i think the BCS is crap regardless of who play OSU in Gelndale!

As long as we have subjective polls with no playoff of any sort, I agree completely.



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2756 times:

Quoting Monorail (Reply 12):
Both Ohio State and Boise State both came out of Divison 1A undefeated.

The key difference is OSU played real teams while BSU plays schools for the deaf, blind, and wayward girls. Let them play against half the teams OSU did and they have a few losses.



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11274 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

Quoting Monorail (Reply 12):
Both Ohio State and Boise State both came out of Divison 1A undefeated.

Well, that didn't take long. I knew it was only a matter of time before the BS people would spew their bs.     

Play some real teams, then you'll get some real love.

Hey Boise! This isn't about you! Sorry, but it's true.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 14):
while BSU plays schools for the deaf, blind, and wayward girls.

OH MY GOD!! Priceless.

[Edited 2006-12-03 02:40:59]


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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Somebody better check DeltaGator's blood pressure right about now.  Smile

How could the Arkansas player have been so stupid????


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2742 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 16):
Somebody better check DeltaGator's blood pressure right about now.

It's higher than Snoop Dogg in the Green Room right now. I'm in my hotel in Manchester, UK right now watching it on CSTV.com and screaming and sqealing like a stuck pig.

Please God, I don't ask for much but can we win this one with some "style points?"



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User currently offlineDuff44 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

Food for thought:

Opponent's record (no 1-AA teams):
Florida (assuming they beat Ark, they won't be considered if they don't): 89-57
Michigan: 84-61

Best team beaten (BCS standings):
Florida: #5 LSU, 23-10
Michigan: #7 Wisconsin, 27-13

Loss:
Florida: #11 Auburn, 17-27
Michigan: #1 Ohio St, 39-42

Tough call all around... to bad they don't settle this in a way that makes sense.  hissyfit   Yeah sure



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User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2725 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
Florida's not as good a team. Sorry, bub. They're good, but not as good.

Bullshit, UM schedule was no where near as tough as Floridas

Want a reasonable argument. Floridas opponents have the highest winning percentage of ANY other teams in Football. You come out of the hardest schedule with only 1 loss and a conference championship, you deserve the BCS bid.


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 19):
Want a reasonable argument. Floridas opponents have the highest winning percentage of ANY other teams in Football. You come out of the hardest schedule with only 1 loss

We are a bad 1AA team but were very honored to play in a game with such an awesome Florida team.


Signed,
Western Carolina


User currently offlineAPFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2708 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 20):
We are a bad 1AA team but were very honored to play in a game with such an awesome Florida team.


Signed,
Western Carolina

Because CMU is such a good team. I say again, UF comes out of the harder schedule with 1 loss and a conference championship.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 20):
We are a bad 1AA team but were very honored to play in a game with such an awesome Florida team.


Signed,
Western Carolina

Perhaps you missed this nugget earlier. The record of our opponents without the 1-AA team is still better.

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 18):
Opponent's record (no 1-AA teams):
Florida (assuming they beat Ark, they won't be considered if they don't): 89-57
Michigan: 84-61

As for your signed by comment...

Thank you for paying us to come get beat by you.

Signed,

Directional (Central) Michigan and Ball State

(versus UCF and Southern Miss who were both Bowl teams the year before on our schedule in Gainesville.)



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

And now the debate begins. We all know my opinion. Hopefully the pollsters will get it right like me.


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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11274 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 19):
Bullshit, UM schedule was no where near as tough as Floridas

Actually, while Florida did have the #1 toughest schedule, Michigan was no slouch at #3.

(ESPN.)

Congrats, Florida, for winning the SEC. Good luck at the Sugar Bowl.



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25 Speedbird747BA : All this is crap. 1 loss apiece, and look at floridas schedule. come on, theyre in the SEC, its gonna be harder than Michigans. Cheers, Kyle
26 Maiznblu_757 : At least Michigan scheduled all 1A teams and if you didnt see it, CMU won the MAC.
27 DeltaGator : Thank you for just making my point. Why should you with the #3 toughest schedule get to play OSU again when we with the #1 toughest schedule get lock
28 D L X : They lost to #11. Let me be clear. Florida is an excellent team. This is nothing personal, but they're not quite as excellent as Michigan, and they h
29 Duff44 : That's not a fair argument, because many teams scheduled 1-AA opponents simply as schedule fillers as their 12th game (which was allowed by the NCAA
30 Maiznblu_757 : Man, At least the Michigan-OSU game will be good. Florida will lose big. No way can they hang with OSU. I say, once again, if there was a playoff, the
31 DeltaGator : And Michigan-CMU as well. At least 3 of our 4 "pansy" teams were bowl teams last year unlike the riff raff UM scheduled short of ND. We'll never know
32 D L X : They could have scheduled 1A opponents, like Michigan did. Hell, they could have scheduled Boise State, and we wouldn't be having a lot of these disc
33 Post contains images Speedbird747BA : Cheers, Kyle
34 Post contains images Halls120 : That's the problem. It most likely WON'T be a good game. Rematches during a same season usually aren't. I can infer from your SN that you are probabl
35 D L X : How does that prove you should have been there? If OSU wipes the field with Michigan (which they proved unable to do on their own home turf), they wo
36 Duff44 : Right, and George Mason could never make it to the Final Four... With a playoff, nobody 'knows' anything...
37 DeltaGator : I believe the numbers back us up as having the better stats. Are we the better team? I say yes, you say no. You had a chance against #1 while we have
38 Post contains images D L X : It seems logical to you because you've ignored the very cogent arguments that suggest you're wrong. Can you respond to them? BTW, check the new signa
39 CMHSRQ : As a OSU fan in CMH, I can vouch for much of the city and Buckeye nation and say that we don't want to play UM again. Florida would be just fine.
40 APFPilot1985 : Put up a logical argument and we will respond: how about these Florida: Conference Champion Michigan: Not Florida: Hardest Schedule in the NCAA Michi
41 DeltaGator : You've made no arguements whatsoever other than you believe you to be the 2nd best team in the nation.
42 Tom in NO : The only reason I care whether Florida or Michigan goes to Glendale is because it directly impacts where LSU goes bowling: If Michigan faces OSU, LSU
43 RayChuang : I think it's going to be a very close vote on who's going to take on Ohio State in the BCS Championship game. I do agree that unless Florida fixes it
44 Post contains images D L X : They do require students to know how to read, down in Florida, don't they? Look back up at Reply 11. Any responses? I'd love to hear your comments, h
45 D L X : I do too. I honestly think that this is yet further proof that the BCS has one "C" too many in its name. I have a lot of respect for Florida, and the
46 APFPilot1985 : That's not the SEC though now is it. Doesn't matter how big the difference is though, FL is #1 bottom line. Your only argument is that a rematch shou
47 DeltaGator : Add to that Florida's wins versus bowl eligible teams on their schedule versus UM's Florida's bowl eligible opponents (10 of 12 teams on schedule): B
48 Maiznblu_757 : I disagree. Both have Porous defenses, it would be a shootout, whoever has the ball last wins type of game.
49 Post contains images Duff44 : That 'rematch' was the result of a playoff, and the two happened to meet. Yes it's not unprecedented, but in a playoff you have no choice. The prosec
50 DeltaGator : Fine, here you go. Again, BFD! Arkansas was unranked at the time they beat Auburn but they rose to #5 but you'll discount that since it doesn't help
51 Maiznblu_757 : I just dumped a beer out on front lawn for the Gator nation, in honor of Florida not making it to the title game. Better luck next year.
52 HPLASOps : You mean like Oregon State, who happen to be one of the two teams responsible for USC losses this year? Yes the schedule was loaded with mostly WAC a
53 Post contains images D L X : Dude, that swings towards Michigan. Michigan when we lose, loses to other top notch teams. When Florida loses, they lose to teams that are going nowh
54 Delta767300ER : True but with #2 Auburn losing to unranked Arkansas 27-10 and then # 11 Auburn beating #2 Florida, it makes Florida's loss to Auburn even worse. Whil
55 APFPilot1985 : I love how not one UM fan has given a reason why they belong in the BCS championship game over FL other then to just say that UM is the better team w
56 Post contains images Maiznblu_757 : Ha. Ill break it down to you... we all thought it was easy but I guess not: 42-39 loss against the #1 team at the shoe. Story closed. Good day.
57 Duff44 : Not correct... Florida's loss was to Auburn, who is 10-2 and will be in a bowl without question
58 DeltaGator : Florida...porous defense? You mean the defense that only gives up an average of 265 yards a game (195 passing, 69 rushing) against 10 bowl eligible t
59 D L X : You missed my point. I'm saying that Auburn's ranking at the time was just as meaningless as Arkansas' ranking at the time. Where are they now? That'
60 D L X : I thought that something was fishy there... I love how you conveniently ignore all the arguments that are given to you.
61 MUWarriors : First off, both teams could be argued deserving, as is being proven on this thread. This is why I hate the BCS, screw it all, and lets go back to the
62 S12PPL : LOL You don't give up, do you? Aint gonna happen. Can't wait to turn on the BCS selection show tomorrow, and see FLORIDA playing Ohio State!
63 DeltaGator : On a controversial non-fumble that was ruled upon in the replay booth by an Auburn graduate and booster. Can anyone say conflict of interest? I fixed
64 Maiznblu_757 : Western Carolina 2002 Football Schedule/Results 2002 | 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 Date Opponent Result/Time Record/Tickets TV August 31 at Liberty W 23
65 APFPilot1985 : Ok so lets throw out that game (which was a win) still both teams have the same record.
66 Post contains images Piercey : Jesus Christ, this shit again? Oh, and btw, Boise State, Louisville, RU, Florida and Wisconsin all are over UM because of one category
67 Delta767300ER : Interesting. Give me a link to it. -Delta767300ER
68 DeltaGator : That was bad on my part though the year in, year out ability of a team to play in bowls should stand for something. The numbers still back me up thou
69 Post contains links DeltaGator : This link gives you the name of the official, Al Ford. http://www.gatorcountry.org/wearetheboys/?p=1882 This link shows he is an Alabama resident. ht
70 Post contains images D L X : Geez dude! Did the guy do all this from the grassy knoll with a magic bullet? Just playin' man.
71 DeltaGator : Yada, yada, yada...schedule a good 1A team why don't you? Ball State: 5-7, 4-7, 2-9, 4-8, and 6-6 over the last 5 years
72 D L X : BTW, if you're watching SportsCenter right now, you see that DeltaGator has basically channeled Urban Meyer's mouth.
73 DeltaGator : Great minds think alike. Too bad I don't get ESPN in this UK hotel. I'm going to bed...it's 5 fricking AM. I'll wait until the BCS selection show in
74 Duff44 : The bowl scenarios: Orange: Wake Forest vs Louisville Fiesta: Oklahoma vs Boise St (Those 2 are pretty solid) SCENARIO 1 (Michigan #2): Rose: USC vs L
75 Post contains images Alias1024 : This reminds me of when Utah got screwed out of a chance at the title, and instead had to play the Big East champs (WV?). The Utes totally destroyed
76 Post contains images D L X : Any more irrational ideas? I know it hurts the feelings of people up in Idaho, but really. Boise State is not part of this conversation. Play Florida
77 Tom in NO : DeltaGator, you're in good company in getting jammed by the refs/replay officials in Auburn games.....LSU got hit with a pass-interference call on a T
78 MUWarriors : Notre Dame and Central Michigan are going bowling this year. Ball State Vandy, Not Florida State and Southern Miss are going bowling this year. WCU C
79 Post contains images D L X : Anyways, I had an interesting, and slightly sick thought just now: First, had USC won this game today, it would be 1) OSU, 2) USC, 3) Michigan, 4) Fl
80 TPAflyer : Bottom line, Michigan had their shot. The SEC is the best conference in the country top to bottom and if you can win it with only one loss, that shoul
81 USPIT10L : That was Pitt, not WVU. We lost to Pitt the previous week, 16-13 and lost our BCS slot. I'm looking forward to the Gator Bowl vs. Georgia Tech, if wh
82 Post contains images Maiznblu_757 : I cant sleep this is bad... Most Michigan fans will disagree with me when I say this, but, if Michigan does beat Ohio State on January 8, there has to
83 JpetekYXMD80 : You really should have double-checked your 'facts' before basing your argument on that. Clearly, Michigan played 7 teams that will be bowling. Oh, an
84 Post contains links DeltaGator : I messed it up a bit but perhaps you should recheck your facts as well? There are 6 that Michigan played who are bowl eligible, one of which they lost
85 Halls120 : I don't think you have to worry about that scenario. If UM gts their rematch, they will most certainly lose.
86 D L X : Central is Bowl eligible. They are the MAC Champs. SEVEN.
87 DeltaGator : My bad. I thought they weren't elibigle for some dumb reason. Even with that we do have more wins against more bowl eligible teams. I ask again (not t
88 Maiznblu_757 : You sure do mess up a lot.
89 AC320 : Seriously what does Florida have to do at this point, walk on water? Everything that the critics have said over and over they'd have to do to earn a s
90 TPAnx : OK. OSU plays UM (again)...and UM wins. So who's the national champ? Each team can claim a win against the other.. TPAnx (GO GATORS) And why do OSU pl
91 DeltaGator : One forgotten team in a lower echelon bowl and a typo...BFD. The numbers I quoted still back my case up even with the correction. At least my team co
92 TPAflyer : There is going to be an increadible uproar from Gator Nation if Michigan gets the nod to play OSU.
93 D L X : Yes! The BCS is set up so that only teams that do walk on water get the shot. The only problem is, there are usually more than two teams that walked
94 TPAnx : Tell that to whoever loses if UM and OSU play again.. TPAnx [Edited 2006-12-03 17:57:05][Edited 2006-12-03 17:57:49]
95 Duff44 : It'll be exactly the same if it's the other way, and overall will detract from the championship game regardless of which team is in it.
96 Post contains images Garri767 : when do they announce who plays OSU? Garri767 (whos got 10$ riding on this )
97 PJ295 : I think you will see Florida voted into the championship game tonight. Both teams (Michigan and Florida) have strong arguments of why they should play
98 D L X : Yup. It will be JUST like Auburn not making it to the title game a couple years ago. And honestly, I think the media sets it up to be just like that.
100 Boston92 : The voters gave the next best team a shot, and they blew it. (USC). UM does indeed deserve to go to the title game.
101 DeltaGator : Crappy Photoshop but pretty funny. Don't worry. We won't have any good words for the BCS if you go to Glendale. Again, we wouldn't have had that if c
102 Duff44 : It makes me want to watch a whole lot less.... I don't want to see a rematch, but I'm not convinced Florida is the #2 team either. The whole thing is
103 AC320 : USA Today poll is out 1. Ohio State (62) 12-0 1,550 2. Florida 12-1 1,470 3. Michigan 11-1 1,444 come on AP and Harris....
104 APFPilot1985 : AP not that it matters has Florida number 2 as well
105 AC320 : How does it not matter, isn't it counted towards a third of the BCS score? Granted the computers and the Harris poll haven't been kind to the Gator's
106 D L X : What bullshit. Florida was WAY behind Michigan in the USA Today poll last week.
107 D L X : No. The AP asked to not be associated with the BCS anymore I think the year before last. (It might have been at the end of last year though.)
108 DeltaGator : No, the AP asked to be taken out of the BCS consideration which is why the Harris Poll was created for this year. I forget their exact reasoning but
109 AC320 : Proving this whole damn thing is too confusing. Well well, guess there were some "reasonable arguments" left.
110 D L X : All emotional. Again, I'll preface with saying Florida is a great team. (And if they do go to the National Champ game, I'm obviously rooting for them
111 AC320 : Rather than emotions, simply Florida doing what they said they wouldn't do: Win the SEC. One thing still bothering me about these polls, I'm sure we
112 Garri767 : okay, now for an unbiased question. not who SHOULD go, but who do you THINK WILL go? ive got ten bucks riding on michigan, im worrying im outta ten bu
113 APFPilot1985 : Now that the table is turned you have changed your tune, when it was looking like UM was going to be in, you had no problem with the current system.
114 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Yeah, well. If Florida beats Michigan in the rankings and goes to play OSU, at least Michigan will play 'SC in the Rose Bowl. Correction: I should say
115 D L X : You're completely full of shit on that one. I've railed on the BCS throughout this thread. I have never in my life spported the BCS, and if Michigan
116 S12PPL : That's what happens when you don't play for two weeks, while everyone else does.... That's why Oregon State is in the top 25 now... By the way... WAY
117 Post contains links AC320 : Florida vaults to No. 2 in BCS, will play Ohio State for national title http://www.latimes.com/sports/colleg...45854.story?coll=la-home-headlines Go G
118 D L X : If this is true, someone at the LA Times is going to get sued.
119 S12PPL : LOL. Bitter much?
120 D L X : give me a freakin' break. Would you be upset by this news if it had been Michigan over Florida?
121 Maiznblu_757 : If this is true... Go Buckeyes. This wont even be close. Its going to be embarrassing.[Edited 2006-12-03 23:05:14]
122 USAFHummer : Three words: "Dewey defeats Truman" (google it if you dont get the reference) Let's not get too premature here folks and just wait another 3 hrs. for
123 Post contains images Duff44 : And you call yourself a Michigan fan?
124 CasInterest : It is true, and Florida's D is much better than Michigan's. This one will be a lot closer than the BIG 11 folks think it will be, and Florida will wi
125 D L X : 26 out of about 3500. It was a very close call.
126 Maiznblu_757 : Ohio St. 45 Florida 13
127 CasInterest : Florida 38 OSU 24
128 Post contains images Maiznblu_757 : You are smoking crack.
129 Post contains images Garri767 : Garri767
130 CasInterest : Ok, I'll be here on Jan 9, If not suffering from a serious hangover. how about you guys?
131 Boston92 : How bout: OSU:38 Florida:17
132 Halls120 : I say: OSU 35 Florida 14 That said, I'd rather see the above matchup over another OSU/UM game. Yawn.
133 Post contains images Maiznblu_757 : Vegas is saying that if there were a Michigan/Florida game, Michigan is favored by 6, on a neutral field. To bad that doesnt count for anything. All t
134 AC320 : Seems to me the AP and Coaches just did. They picked the team that just finished doing everything they said it would have to in order to earn a shot.
135 Maiznblu_757 : Good call bozo. They picked for the matchup, they didnt want to see the 2nd best team in the country play for what they deserve because 1. They alrea
136 Duff44 : It's official: Florida vs Ohio St in the championship game
137 Maiznblu_757 : Its going to be pretty easy for the Buckeyes. As I said before: OSU 45 Florida 13
138 APFPilot1985 : Well DLX, and Maizn_blu need help pulling your foot out of your mouth.
139 Falcon84 : As good as UM is, there's two reasons why they shouldn't be in. 1. They didn't win their conference. 2. If they did make it in, and play OSU again, th
140 DeltaGator : First off, many other folks more informed than you (unless you're one of the pollsters which I doubt) say Florida is the second best team in the nati
141 Post contains images AC320 : Bozo, nice you brought out the big guns. Fact is, the Gators played their way into the game as explained previously, regardless of what you come up w
142 D L X : Way to show some class. That's common in sports, and the last time, it happened to guess who: Florida! They got a second bite at the apple. Besides,
143 TPAflyer : Theres also not much compitition coming into Ann Arbor. Urban Meyer will have his team ready: UF 34 OSU 27
144 S12PPL : Yep...Those last two weeks weren't a bye at all... This is the only place I agree with you. You cannot have a computer tie two teams for 2nd place, a
145 AC320 : Oh please this is some bitter vitriol. Florida played a tougher schedule, won its division, went further than anyone expected etc....When it came dow
146 S12PPL : Give me a fricken break. Mack Brown is a vote whore, not Meyer. Did you listen to him on ESPN last night before the Oregon State Hawaii game??? Show
147 APFPilot1985 : coming from you that doesn;t mean a thing. You had UM on the way to glendale and gloated about it and now you have yours.
148 Tom in NO : Memo to Michigan fan and Lloyd Carr: Keep up this funk you guys are all in until the Rose Bowl and USC will kick you up one side and down the other...
149 S12PPL : Wouldn't that be fun? Shut them the hell up, sorta like Cal in '04
150 Post contains links D L X : Dude, read the freakin' context. Then get back to me. (But I appreciate the honesty in your second quote.) I didn't expect freaking pollster massager
151 Post contains images Maiznblu_757 : Dont worry Damon, Florida wont be 2nd for long. Florida will lose soooo bad that another team will move into that 2nd spot when all is said and done.
152 Maiznblu_757 : Edited for jumping the gun: That was no doubt, Urban Meyer that did that. Had to have been. Nobody else int heir right mind could do it.[Edited 2006-
153 D L X : I agree, but I hope they squeak out a win. Believe it or not, Michigan is actually still in the National Title hunt: a blowout or decisive win over U
154 S12PPL : Read the context.....Ok, read it. Still, UM had a bye the last two weeks because the SEC, and Big 12 have conference championship games...And because
155 Post contains images TPAflyer : Look, its over, Florida is in. You better believe they'll show the nation why they deserve to be there. And I only have one thing to say to all you Mi
156 Maiznblu_757 : I know, I have thought about that but there is no way Florida has a shot.
157 JpetekYXMD80 : The Big Ten should, in turn, schedule games later. IMO, the greatest factor in the polls was that Michigan sat idle with Florida winning. I also woul
158 Duff44 : The only teams that played 'extra' games (i.e. 13 total) were the teams in the various conference championship games, plus Oregon St and Hawaii. Many
159 D L X : Right, so AC320 was saying that the Gators had to play their way into the championship game, implying that the Wolverines should be punished for not
160 Post contains images S12PPL : Then, honestly, everyone needs to just shut the hell up from Michigan If you can agree on that point, and there is no doubt that sitting idle for two
161 Gunships : Looks like a dead horse...maybe I'll just kick it some more. Smells like a dead horse...maybe if I keep kicking it. Sounds like a dead horse...maybe
162 Maiznblu_757 : OSU will win, huge... So huge that you will have several teams jump over Florida in the final poll: 1) OSU 45-13 over Florida 2) Michigan 28-24 over U
163 AC320 : No, simply implying Florida still had games to play and things to prove to the voters. We still had a schedule to finish, and without a win against A
164 JpetekYXMD80 : WTF, s12? Stop your condescending shit. I haven't even stated my feelings on who should play OSU, so I dont know what you're going off of. But here i
165 D L X : Do you have anything substantive to add? Ever? Or do you just come on when everyone else has done the arguing? If you don't have anything to say, don
166 Halls120 : Michigan would be playing in the BCS championship game if they had beat OSU when they played them.
167 Post contains images S12PPL : You said it...not me. You sure have done a good job of making people think how you feel....So yes, you have made your opinion known. USC fucked up, a
168 JpetekYXMD80 : Yes...I said i would have liked to have seen Ohio State vs. Wisconsin this year. And you followed that up with asking me if i remember the Michigan/O
169 S12PPL : Where? No, people = everyone... lol
170 Post contains images JpetekYXMD80 : Oh, well I guess it wasn't perfectly explicit. I just figured it would be since its obvious i go to UW from my profile and i also tend to bleed red i
171 Gunships : Chill out, listen to some music. Might I recommend the Stones, "You can't always get what you want." Give it a rest, it's football. They'll play again
172 Post contains images S12PPL : I very rarely look at anyone's profiles, and I hardly ever ready anything you post
173 JpetekYXMD80 : Obviously. What would have made you assume i'm a Michigan fan?[Edited 2006-12-04 04:50:56]
174 Post contains links Maiznblu_757 : Damon, A former coach of Washington St. and Iowa St. voted Florida #1, he votes in the Harris Poll. You were correct. He needs a drug test. http://bro
175 APFPilot1985 : I say again, with your poor record of predictions don't you think maybe you should keep your mouth shut?
176 Pope : I think UM should worry less about it's ranking and more about wining it's conference. Maybe if you did that, this whole issue would be moot. Have a g
177 Post contains images Tom in NO : Michigan fan's awful quiet today.....must be giving those shower rods a workout Tom at MSY
178 S12PPL : It's a nice break. We're gonna have to hear it from them for the next month...
179 APFPilot1985 : that puts you 0-3 on predictions Good job
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