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Bush's Iraq War Tactiic Backfired..Heres Why..  
User currently offlineWardialer From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1182 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

Think about it...

About 2800 American lives were lost during the 9/11 attacks..And here we are in the Iraq war which soon to hit 3000 lives...And I mean American lives...

So the whole entire world is laughing at us because more American lives (US Troops) are lost over there than the 9/11 attacks...So the whole thing on this war has BACK-FIRED!!!

So this whole "war tactic" meant nothing at all...practically...What a waste of time and money...

So whats your opinions on this?

And to be honest with you people...I dont why we are out there to protect the only and the ONLY country named IRAQ???

There alot of other countries that hurt more than Iraq..Iraq never had been a threat to the US..never. So who are we actually protecting here??

[Edited 2006-12-06 15:06:19]

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User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

Whoah! I guess I never thought about it that way! Or heard anyone bring up these exact points before! My eyes have been truly opened.


"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineWardialer From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

I dont know...I really respect someones freedom of speech here and the direction of political parties...but I am just stating the facts here...I do not have the exact figures here..But it seems to not make sense at all when we are out there fighting terroism and when you think about it American US troop lives had been lost ALMOST as equally as in the WTC attacks...

User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8030 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2233 times:

Go hug a tree and smoke some pot.

Perhaps you might as well go do the same thing seeing as you're going to be paying for this debacle through tax increases for the next 20 years. Wish I could say the same, but I'm exempt from owing Uncle Sam anything.



If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

Quoting Wardialer (Thread starter):
this whole "war tactic" meant nothing at all...practically...What a waste of time and money...

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it meant GWB to be a "wartimes-president" and it secured his 2nd term in office. So that HE at least "won" the war in November 2004 .
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And even if GWB did make a "link" between terrorism and Iraq, the 11Sep01 matter and Iraq are two different issues.
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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3702 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2213 times:
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Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 5):
Perhaps you might as well go do the same thing seeing as you're going to be paying for this debacle through tax increases for the next 20 years. Wish I could say the same, but I'm exempt from owing Uncle Sam anything.

I have no prolem with the war, and fully support it.



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User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2212 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 8):

I have no prolem with the war, and fully support it.

Well hell, someone give AirTran737's phone number to the Army recruiters. He sounds like just what they need.



"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3702 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2206 times:
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Quoting LHMARK (Reply 9):
Well hell, someone give AirTran737's phone number to the Army recruiters. He sounds like just what they need.

I'd love to be there. I'd go in a second. Unfortunately having torn my ACL and having my meniscus cartilage removed I am not able to serve. Believe me if I could I would go in a second. I think people have forgotten about the words Duty, Honor, and Country.



Nice Trip Report!!! Great Pics, thanks for posting!!!! B747Forever
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8030 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

Americans' duty is to the United States of America, not 28,000,000 fragmented and strife-ridden people two continents away.

Nobody forgot about country or honor either. Except for the Republicans, Democrats, and just about every special interest fueling the flames of greed and corruption in Washington. Those there who truly honored and loved their country would be seeking to restore it to the shining beacon of reason, respect and goodwill the word 'America' should otherwise stand for.

[Edited 2006-12-06 16:43:30]

[Edited 2006-12-06 16:44:23]


If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

Since he fully supports it, I gave AirTran737's name and phone number to GoArmy.com. They should be contacting him in the next few minutes.

To be fair, and honest, if I were King of America, I would make the oil companies pay for the Iraq war. Surely they can afford to foot the bill.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2183 times:

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 12):
if I were King of America, I would make the oil companies pay for the Iraq war. Surely they can afford to foot the bill.

why not the former boss of Halliburton directly ?


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2182 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 6):
it meant GWB to be a "wartimes-president" and it secured his 2nd term in office. So that HE at least "won" the war in November 2004 .

If this tactic was valid then George Senior would have won a second term!

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 11):
Americans' duty is to the United States of America, not 28,000,000 fragmented and strife-ridden people two continents away.

So very true. We need to stop being the peace keepers for the whole world. We need to take care of our own.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 11):
Nobody forgot about country or honor either. Except for the Republicans, Democrats, and just about every special interest fueling the flames of greed and corruption in Washington. Those there who truly honored and loved their country would be seeking to restore it to the shining beacon of reason, respect and goodwill the word 'America' should otherwise stand for.

Also it us sad how many politicians have even seen any military duty what so ever.



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 14):
George Senior would have won a second term!

"Bush the elder" WOULD have won a second term against Al Gore / Liebermann, but NOT against Bill Clinton / Al Gore .
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
Quoting Wardialer (Thread starter):
.......................................

What a charming thought !


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 16):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
Quoting Wardialer (Thread starter):
.......................................


What a charming thought !

I rather thought so, thanks.

The every couple month's instant replay of this subject is monotonous . . . this thread even more so simply because it's not supported with any fact, just gibberish from the thread starter . . .


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 16):
"Bush the elder" WOULD have won a second term against Al Gore / Liebermann, but NOT against Bill Clinton / Al Gore .

Slight correction. Clinton won 1992 with 43% of the vote. Bush Sr. had 38% and Ross Perot had 19%. If Perot had not run, Sr. would have won that election handily.


User currently offlineKevi747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 2):
Jesus fucking Christ give it up. You people need to get over it. The war happened, it continues, and it won't be stopped. Bush felt justified in his actions, and I still support him.

Absolutely baffling. Even with the benefit of hindsight so many people still staunchly stand by that miserable failure. I truly cannot understand how anyone can support that man.

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 2):
Go hug a tree and smoke some pot.

Yes, because anyone who doesn't fully support the war must be some type of hippie. Very mature.

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 8):
I have no prolem with the war, and fully support it.

Why do you think we went into this war in Iraq?

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 10):
I'd love to be there. I'd go in a second. Unfortunately having torn my ACL and having my meniscus cartilage removed I am not able to serve.

How convenient.



"Reality has a well-known liberal bias." --Stephen Colbert
User currently offlineWardialer From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Please people...I do not wanna argue here..

If anyone can post the death tolls by comparison between the deaths of the WTC attacks and the Iraqi war deaths that would be great...

Like I said...I dont have the exact figures but I'll bet the total US death tolls are at a range of 2800 to close to 3000 so far...And it will climb...

SO the whole thing has back-fired on the Bush Admin...

In other woeds...If you ADD up all the deaths of the WTC attacks and the Iraqi war death tolls...GUESS WHAT...The results are not good..


User currently offlineJonathan-l From France, joined Mar 2002, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

Quoting Wardialer (Thread starter):
About 2800 American lives were lost during the 9/11 attacks..And here we are in the Iraq war which soon to hit 3000 lives...And I mean American lives...

Very few Americans died because of Hitler before they landed in Normandy to free France and other European nations. It took a few seconds before the American death toll during World War II exceeded the American death toll before the war, yet the cause was worthy.
Only to say that comparing death tolls should not be a measure of whether a war should be fought or not (whatever my opinions on the war in Iraq).

On and after September 11th, some echoed that other contemporaneous events created far more deaths than 9-11 (Rwanda, famine, AIDS...) and so they should get more attention than 9-11. Again, the significance of an event should not be measured in number of deaths.


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

Quoting Wardialer (Reply 21):
If anyone can post the death tolls by comparison between the deaths of the WTC attacks and the Iraqi war deaths that would be great...

It's not a simple math equation, if we lost this many in the attacks and lost this many in the war then it's sucess is determined as such.

It's the principle, you were attacked, you went to war.

Hopefully in 2 years I'll get to serve in Afghanistan. Someone go give the recruiter my number.


User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5684 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 23):
It's the principle, you were attacked, you went to war

The US were attacked by Saudi-funded/staffed, Afghanistan-based A-Q and Bush went to war with Iraq...  crazy 
With the same logic of this "principle" the US should have attacked Argentina or Madagascar as a response to Pearl Harbor.


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1960 times:

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 27):
The US were attacked by Saudi-funded/staffed, Afghanistan-based A-Q and Bush went to war with Iraq...

Bush went to war with terrorists, America went to Afghanistan, and now there are other countries fighting in Afghanistan. The fact that he went to war with Iraq does not mean that he didn't try to find Al-Q. And no one can seriously say that removing So Damn Insane from power was a bad thing.


User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1956 times:

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 28):
And no one can seriously say that removing So Damn Insane from power was a bad thing.

The relatives of the 550,000 dead Iraqis might have a different opinion and so do at least some of the American families.

No point in saying Saddam was bad when what you are visiting on the Iraqis stands a good chance of being assessed as worse. If the Iraqis are as keen as you say, why do something like 70% want the US, UK and Aus out, and why do more than 50% think it is OK to kill one (or more) of the invasion force? Sounds like a different opinion to me!

Do you remember how it was when Canada was occupied? No, well come back and tell us how it is when occupying forces kick down the doors in the middle of the night, the electricity has failed and there is no drinkable water and you have to queue for petrol when your country has the fourth largest oil reserves in the area.


User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 24):
So much for respecting the right to ones opinion.

Completely agree with you. The usual bunch of people have come into this thread to tell us all just how much they dislike it and some of their contributions are limited to posting extremely childish pictures.

If you don't like a particular discussion, don't participate. It's as simple as that.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 25):
With all due respect, the rest of the world is not laughing, rather it is totally appalled at the abuse of power.

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I think we all agree that if 9/11 had not happened, Iraq would not have been invaded. The whole reason why the Bush Administration after 9/11 decided to go after Saddam was because it successfully managed to sell to the American Public the idea that Saddam equaled to al-Qaeda and that the two had probably cooperated when preparing the 9/11 attacks. The WMD issue gave the whole thing a sense of urgency and was often exploited by senior administration officials talking about mushroom-clouds or holding up little vials enough to kill thousands of innocent people, or so they said.

Bottom line: the invasion of Iraq was to deal with al-Qaeda and prevent them from obtaining WMD's.

I think it is fair to assess that both objectives have not been met. Al-Qaeda is larger and more popular then ever before and some major f@ck-ups in Washington have left former UN monitored high-explosive caches and other dual-use WMD-related storage facilities unguarded, the majority of which have been looted. "Included in the missing material are HMX and RDX, the New York Times reported on Monday. Those explosives can be used to demolish buildings, but can also be used to produce warheads for missiles and detonate nuclear weaponry.(1)

The terror-threat to the US or US interests (or any of its allies) is now greater than before 9/11. Instead of actively going after al-Qaeda as was the case with Afghanistan (where much more should, could and still remains to be done), the invasion of Iraq has proven to be a diversion which has strengthened the al-Qaeda enemy enormously while facilitating the access of other enemies (Iran, insurgents, non-al Qaeda terrorism) to valuable material looted from former UN monitored sites poorly guarded (or completely unguarded) by Coalition troops.

Is the U.S. (or the world, for that matter) safer than on September 11, 2001? Absolutely not!

(1) http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2004/1...iraq_explosives_missing041025.html



Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Quoting Wardialer (Thread starter):
So the whole entire world is laughing at us because more American lives (US Troops) are lost over there than the 9/11 attacks...So the whole thing on this war has BACK-FIRED!!!

Then the whole world must have been laughing at us for going to war in 1917, 1945, 1950, and 1964 since we lost more troops in each of those wars than we lost in the initial attacks. That has got to be one of the dumbest analogies I have ever seen here.  faint 

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 5):
Perhaps you might as well go do the same thing seeing as you're going to be paying for this debacle through tax increases for the next 20 years.

When the price of this war starts to outpace the price of entitlement spending, the real reason for any tax increase, then I will start to worry.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 11):
Those there who truly honored and loved their country would be seeking to restore it to the shining beacon of reason, respect and goodwill the word 'America' should otherwise stand for.

Cue violins, cue marching band, cue Kate Smith sound alike with "God Bless America".....from a person who so loves his country he evidently chooses to live in.....Japanconfused 

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 12):
Since he fully supports it, I gave AirTran737's name and phone number to GoArmy.com.

Since the Navy aint doin sh-t on the ground there.

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 13):
why not the former boss of Halliburton directly ?

How about we bill the Palestinians, they started all this back in 1947.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 25):
With all due respect, the rest of the world is not laughing, rather it is totally appalled at the abuse of power.

Yet whom does the rest of the world turn to whenever there is a major natural disaster or they are being helplessly trampled by a superior power, or where do they run when they want a better life.........  banghead 


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Quoting Baroque (Reply 29):
No point in saying Saddam was bad when what you are visiting on the Iraqis stands a good chance of being assessed as worse.

I'm pretty sure that's not even a coherent sentence.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 29):
Do you remember how it was when Canada was occupied? No, well come back and tell us how it is when occupying forces kick down the doors in the middle of the night, the electricity has failed and there is no drinkable water and you have to queue for petrol when your country has the fourth largest oil reserves in the area.

Iraq was never like Canada while So Damn was in power. Once the Iraqis are able to manage their own security and their own government I'm sure it will be a much improved place to live. Just for the record, I do have to wait for gas, when the prices go down the lines get long.


25 Baroque : Welcome (willkommen), you have been missed. Stay tuned, but normal service may not be resumed. I don't know if the US was ever a resort when being tr
26 Mt99 : So.. is it like Vietnam yet? I was watching the "Aliens" the other day and the director - James Cameron - was saying in an interview in 1986 (when the
27 Sprout5199 : Hey now! I guess the Marines went there with no corpsmen? The Navy has boondockers on the ground there, but that is not what the Navy is for. Dan in
28 NeilYYZ : I have more faith in pigs flying and hitting the Pick 6 than I do in the UN.
29 Toulouse : According to the BBC on October 11th 2006, the death toll of iraqis stood at 665.000 "yes that SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY-FIVE THOUSAND". Of course this i
30 Mt99 : OK fine.. then who? Has the Iraq war proved that the US is capable?
31 Itsjustme : Disagree. Going after Saddam was on Bush's agenda prior to 9/11. Remember, Saddam tried to kill daddy Bush. It was payback time. W just needed an exc
32 UH60FtRucker : You really don't believe it was all about the assassination attempt of President G.H.W. Bush, do you? You need to think deeper than this. Think about
33 NeilYYZ : If I were to go to war, which I very well might once I'm done University and enlist, there are three countries (excluding Canada because I'd be in it
34 Itsjustme : I think you are underestimating Bush and his ability to use intimidation as a way of influencing the American Public. Hell, it was his constant use o
35 Mt99 : I did not say "be on your side" but "lead".. prob the list you have will stay the same.. but i just wanted to clarify that point..
36 NeilYYZ : Very true. And those were in no particular order, just the 3 countries that I would like to serve under if it were a situation where Canada couldn't
37 Schoenorama : I know he was able to invade Iraq and get re-elected doing just that. The whole issue is whether he would have been able to achieve the first if 9/11
38 AirTran737 : Actually it was quite a pain in the ass. I would love to go and serve my country. Somebody has to protect the rights of bleeding hearts libs such as
39 Post contains images ANCFlyer : NO, not shameful. Realistic. Same people, saying the same thing about the same people . . . monotonous. Yes, I know eleven more troops died yesterday
40 NWOrientDC10 : Yet you are here discussing it. Why?
41 Miamiair : To set the record straight perhaps, and/or to raise the BS flag.
42 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Ignore him, he's just again, like this morning - only all those posts are gone - Horus decided to be a Moderator today. Ignore him and he'll go away.
43 Post contains images NWOrientDC10 : I'll leave on my own terms, thank you. Also, my replies weren't the only ones which were deleted. Good Day to all of you Russell
44 Post contains images Keesje : I think Bush became arrogant, didn´t listen to anyone and everybody else rallied behind the flag. Some people think he really didn´t understand the
45 Itsjustme : You are 100% correct. Bush IS terribly simplistic and has a one dimensional mind. Thank you for agreeing with me. That being said, it's been reported
46 ANCFlyer : I'm gonna tell you, Rummy did NOT write that, or he didn't want it written. Absolutely NOT his style. He's an autocratic dictator that I can never re
47 Cba : You mean the Israelis? They're the ones who have continued to occupy Palestinian territories. Actually, the Marines lead the invasion. Just because s
48 Baroque : If I remember correctly this was a response to the thread starter before it vanished following some event or other!! With all due respect, the rest of
49 Baroque : I am pleased that someone apart from an Australian thought that was the world upside down!
50 Itsjustme : Truth be told, the first several times I read the stories, I thought the same. I was wondering, "OK, why the sudden change". But then I thought, "Wel
51 Post contains images RJdxer : You really don't think very deep do you? Nope, I mean the Palestinians. The UN divided the land up in 1947, the Palestinians weren't happy with that,
52 Itsjustme : I guess not. So why don't you spell it out for me? I will ask you again. When did the Iraqi's turn to the U.S. and ask us to invade their country and
53 Post contains links Beaucaire : Two large families with 32 members have been killed in an US air-raid in Iraq.. That's wat military people call regrettable collateral damage... http:
54 NeilYYZ : That's a fact of war, a sad one, but it happened in WWI, WWII and I'm sure every war since the beginning of time.
55 Baroque : You are totally missing the point of these wars, they are supposed to leave satisfied happy and democratic clients. And here you are saying "What are
56 Post contains images Cfalk : The dumbest statement I ever heard. Pearl Harbor cost the lives of 2800 Americans or so. The whole war cost us about 400,000 lives. So by your logic,
57 Cfalk : LOL! Why don't you sing a few refrains of "Kumbaya" and "All You Need Is Love"? The point of the war (and of any war) is to create a change which is
58 Aaron747 : ^ And that's entirely the problem. We might find our interests better served in a broader long term view by not applying change where it's neither wan
59 Baroque : Hi there, it is your boss who is in need of the Kumbaya, I am translating his aims, although I think he believes that a(nother) war is just a tactic.
60 Aaron747 : By the way, did you know that in the big Hamburg raids, Harris almost totally missed the U-boat yards and the parts of the city most intensely burned,
61 Cfalk : In other words, do nothing and hope the problem goes away on its own? Your logic is all over the place. Maybe you want to rephrase. The purpose of th
62 Baroque : With Hamburg, the markers were a bit off - to the SE if I remember correctly - so few bombs hit the dockyard area. And then of course, the dockyards
63 Post contains images Aaron747 : In other words, do nothing and hope the problem goes away on its own? There's no sense replying to the same oft-repeated straw man. The laundry list o
64 Post contains images Aaron747 : Whereas items such as lathes might not like the rain, they continued to function (even with unhappy workers) unless hit by a large bomb. Even with unh
65 Post contains links LHMARK : I'm surprised that a leg problem stopped you from getting in, since it's likely to just get blown off anyway. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...
66 Post contains images Baroque : Here is one not having too much trouble with yr logic A747! It is interesting to speculate how constrained aims are in current wars due to external f
67 Cba : After the UN mandate, the Israelis continued to expand and colonize Palestinian lands outside their original borders, lands that had belonged to the
68 Baroque : The Israelis just think they are happy with the outcome in Iraq, the Iranians KNOW that they are very, very happy, and happier every miserable day so
69 Post contains links RJdxer : They first asked during the Bush 41 administration and we let them down. This man Iyad Allawi and his political party risked much to try and bring ab
70 Itsjustme : We're straying from the thread topic but it was the CIA who recruited Mr. Allawi in 1992. We went to him, he didn't come to us. The lack of (air) sup
71 Kevi747 : And that person isn't you. Sorry, but I don't feel that Saddam Hussein had the desire or capability to take away anything from me.
72 RJdxer : You need to add IMO in that statement since that is what it is. If we look back to the thread starter his interpretation of what "failed" means is th
73 Itsjustme : I'm not sure in what context you feel "IMO" should be added. Are you saying it's solely my opinion what the topic of this thread is or are you saying
74 RJdxer : till it's 10 of 10 it's just your opinion, a majority opinion, but not a unanimous one.
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