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Ahmadinejad Calls For Leaders To Convert Or Die  
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3606 times:

Well, isn't this expected and nice?

Follow God or vanish, Ahmadinejad tells West

"Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has warned Western leaders to follow the path of God or "vanish from the face of the earth".

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/12/06/061206101357.8mjamnal.html

Yeah, let's have a chat with him, sounds like a reasonable man.  sarcastic 

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User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3596 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Thread starter):

You mean we won't be able to see YouTube anymore?


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3591 times:

It's comments like that why Ahmadinejad can't be taken seriously.


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3581 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
It's comments like that why Ahmadinejad can't be taken seriously.

On the contrary. It's comments like this that make me take Ahmadinejad and his nuclear program very seriously.


User currently offlineA332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

Considering the vast influence and power Iran has in the 'neighborhood'... there's no question that we all have to take him seriously.


Bad spellers of the world... UNTIE!
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 3):
make me take Ahmadinejad and his nuclear program very seriously.

he maintained once again, that the Iranians want to have nuclear energy to produce civil energy for economic purposes. The nuclear program of Iran is not militarily. So what.
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Quoting Miamiair (Reply 1):
we won't be able to see YouTube anymore?

Doesn't "YouTube" "follow the path of God" ?
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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3568 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 5):
he maintained once again, that the Iranians want to have nuclear energy to produce civil energy for economic purposes. The nuclear program of Iran is not militarily. So what

Could possibly be. But the way he talks, and the fact that not many of the leaders in Iran are talking against him, makes many people wonder if he can be trusted at all.


User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3563 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 5):
The nuclear program of Iran is not militarily. So what.

An idiot like that, that has nuclear weapons available to him, and wants me to convert to his religion, and you ask So What?

I live in a place where I can worship in whichever manner gives me comfort, this man is a global menace.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 7):
that has nuclear weapons available to him, and wants me to convert to his religion

he has no nuclear weapons available to him, and he just referred to "the path of God" but not to a particular religion. By the way he talks I however doubt his mental sanity.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3555 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 5):
The nuclear program of Iran is not militarily.

Prove it! You can't and neither can anyone else.

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 3):
Quoting Superfly (Reply 2):
It's comments like that why Ahmadinejad can't be taken seriously.

On the contrary. It's comments like this that make me take Ahmadinejad and his nuclear program very seriously.

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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3554 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 5):
The nuclear program of Iran is not militarily.

Sure it isn't...


User currently offlineAsturias From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 2156 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3527 times:

That guy is all talk and no show. This is a major deja vu from the Cold War era. Ahmadinejad is a politician like Tony Blair, less like Bush jr.

cheers

Asturias



Tonight we fly
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 5):
he maintained once again, that the Iranians want to have nuclear energy to produce civil energy for economic purposes. The nuclear program of Iran is not militarily. So what.

...and I can't wait till Branniff and Delta get there first Boeing 2707s.  Yeah sure

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 3):
On the contrary. It's comments like this that make me take Ahmadinejad and his nuclear program very seriously.

I meant taken seriously as a diplomatic individual that is serious about solving problems and providing solutions to conflicts in the Middle-East.

Bush has handed Iran just what they wanted on a silver platter, a weak Iraq.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3522 times:

Quoting Asturias (Reply 11):
That guy is all talk and no show.

Tell that to the Iraqis dealing with the 'help' Iran has given to the insurgents.

Quoting Asturias (Reply 11):
This is a major deja vu from the Cold War era.

Indeed, and we know how much of a real threat that was. Ask some Eastern Europeans about it.

Quoting Asturias (Reply 11):
Ahmadinejad is a politician like Tony Blair, less like Bush jr.

In a sense, I would have thought you would have compared him to Bush and his religious fervor.

I hope you all believe in God, cause otherwise there are some people out there ready to kill you.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3497 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):
I hope you all believe in God, cause otherwise there are some people out there ready to kill you.

...that also believe in God or Allah.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAsturias From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 2156 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3497 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):
Tell that to the Iraqis dealing with the 'help' Iran has given to the insurgents.

Are you talking about the assistance Iran is giving to Shi'ite insurgents against the Sunni? That isn't interesting to this discussion unless Iraq is the 51st state already or a part of the 'West' somehow.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):
Indeed, and we know how much of a real threat that was. Ask some Eastern Europeans about it.

Indeed it was. Ask some Americans about it. Both sides had insane people who wanted to attack the other side. Those were the real danger of the Cold War. Sociopath generals on both sides. Hence the deja vu, but Ahmadinajad is just a politician. We don't see the dangerous faces.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):
In a sense, I would have thought you would have compared him to Bush and his religious fervor.

I would, if Ahmedinejad were more concerned about foreign policy than domestic. He's constantly cheering up the home crowd and offering some limited support to insurgents in the immediate neighbourhood, but doesn't touch anything outside the middle-east. Bush does.

Their religious fervor is similar, but it does not control the policy of either man. Were they true to their faith, they would be peaceful and patient.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):
I hope you all believe in God, cause otherwise there are some people out there ready to kill you.

We all? I can't speak for anyone else than myself.

cheers

Asturias



Tonight we fly
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3491 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
...that also believe in God or Allah.

Little lesson once given to me by a Muslim:

Allah = God in Arabic.

Allah = the same God mentioned in Judaism and Christianity.

Jesus = same level of respect as Mohamed, Mohamed was the last prophet.

The Quran has many references to people and places in both the Bible and the Torah.

Quoting Asturias (Reply 15):
Both sides had insane people who wanted to attack the other side. Those were the real danger of the Cold War. Sociopath generals on both sides. Hence the deja vu, but Ahmadinajad is just a politician

In understand that point, I am just wondering why the real leaders of Iran don't shut him up. After all, the disagreements in the US are well publicized throughout the world. Why not the same in Iran?


User currently offlineAsturias From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 2156 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3486 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 16):
In understand that point, I am just wondering why the real leaders of Iran don't shut him up. After all, the disagreements in the US are well publicized throughout the world. Why not the same in Iran?

That is a good point. As you are, I am very concerned about what the real leaders of Iran are thinking. They are a secretive bunch.

cheers

Asturias



Tonight we fly
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3482 times:

AndesSMF:
Well aware of that.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3475 times:

which God?

This is why religion are absurd and need to banned.


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
Well aware of that.

I should remember that a world traveler like you (read your other post, you lucky guy) is most likelyhood well aware of many, as you seem to be to me now. Just wanted to also make sure others were in the same page, because I have seen that mistake being made often.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

AndesSMF:
Also, you speak as if believing in God will samohow save you from nuclear attack. It wont!



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3868 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

"Follow God or vanish"

Damn! I don't like going to church. Can I pretend tp pray in private, instead?



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3467 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
It wont!

I know it doesn't. It actually bothers me that the fine Western secularism is being threatened by this.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39907 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 23):
It actually bothers me that the fine Western secularism is being threatened by this.

Those Muslim fundamentalist hate secularism just as much as Catholisim, Judaism, Buddhist, etc..



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25 FlyUSCG : I'm sure most will disagree with me on this, but a statement such as "Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon an
26 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Just like the Shrub maintained that there were WMD in Iraq. You're right...so what? Without using hindsight, any legit reason why the Bush of 2002 is
27 Post contains images N174UA : Right up until the point where a mushroom cloud rises over Tel Aviv...?? If you believe this guy only wants a nuclear program for "peaceful" purposes
28 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : LMAO Yeah, Washington and the world really need to sit down with this "genius" to solve conflicts as some have been suggesting you know you don't even
29 AndesSMF : So the only way to win then is what? Talking? Ignoring? Eliminating?
30 MIAMIx707 : Not that Spain or the Arab world would particularly care if that happened..
31 Dtwclipper : Let me guess, "ME AVN FAN" is some how an Anagram for Neville Chamberlain?
32 ME AVN FAN : - They say that their program is civil. You place an allegation to the contrary. So it is up to you to prove anything. Until you can prove it, they a
33 QR332 : Firstly, we have only one news report from a website that could easily have misquoted/mistranslated what he said; do you all still remember the Jews w
34 Post contains images HAWK21M : Remember Domestic Audience needs to hear things.Don't react to whatever is printed regds MEL
35 BAe146QT : I have trouble taking him seriously because every time I hear his name what I hear is, "I'm a dinner jacket".
36 Jwenting : Because the guy actually has the active approval of the ayatollahs... There is no disagreement, or rather anyone who disagrees is a heretic. And here
37 Post contains images QR332 : *Grabs sword*
38 ME AVN FAN : while the Quran clearly states that Muslims have to be peaceful with others IF being approached peacefully, and that Jews and Christians are to be re
39 MIAMIx707 : yeah that has as much credibility as Ahmadinejihad himself telling us his regime is democratic he's not fooling anyone with that He also wants us to
40 AndesSMF : Actually, sounds like someone is swallowing that hook, line and sinker, as that is the term widely used in the ME. Second of all, why did Bush get st
41 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : simply prove that he is TRYING to fool anybody ! - there were many Christian martyrs throughout history - most Muslims don't do see either. Mr Ahmedi
42 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : well, extreme persons always are "loud" in speaking and actions. Just to give an idea, the widespread impression in the world is that "THE" US-Americ
43 MIAMIx707 : or get stuck in Iraq? If the Arab world would've demanded and wanted to see a modern, democratic Iraq, with the same energy they spend blaming the Is
44 AndesSMF : Key word here is 'were'. Has Europe had any success with their negotiations? And the wide impressions is that we here in California spend our weekend
45 QR332 : Your president was the one who used the term crusade, and lets not forget what the crusades were all about. As for your second comment, are we all ta
46 ME AVN FAN : - the European negotiators, not very distant from the USA, wanted the Iranians to accept to have to buy nuclear stuff instead of being independent in
47 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : I guess you haven't read his "letter to the Ameican People" so what conclusion do you draw when most of the Arab world believes such is the case and
48 QR332 : While the majority of Americans have done oh so much to stop things like the Iraq war - the only time the American public reacts is when Americans di
49 ME AVN FAN : WRONG, I did NOT say "most of the Arab World", but many people in the Arab World, and that is what I understand under "widespread". No, I dare to say
50 MIAMIx707 : the only ones bombing themselves and our troops that are there to keep some order (civilians and non-civilians) are Iraqis themselves, along with cra
51 ME AVN FAN : The general idea in most Arab countries is that shorts are for the beach area and "internal traffic" but not the inner-city wave. But it is NOT a law
52 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : What do you think US students would say? Students here are not asked the same questions because it's an open society and we can form our own conclusi
53 ME AVN FAN : - I in the past DID have contact with US-American students and DID ask questions. "open society" was not my impression, but rather "splendid isolatio
54 ANCFlyer : As long as they are Arab and of the same religious sect . . . otherwise, kill the bastard infidels . . .
55 ME AVN FAN : wrong! meant is the entire globe, and all of mankind !
56 MIAMIx707 : yes, their own The only feeling that he provoked on the interviewer was of pity I imagine, and this student didn't appear to be no poor child, financ
57 Post contains images QR332 : My point is from day one, nobody really did anything to stop the invasion - and now instead of sending more troops in, because America could control
58 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Well, QR, I certainly don't see a lot of Southern Baptist; White Folk, African American, Oriental, American Indian or otherwise running around variou
59 QR332 : I do, just look at the US military in Iraq right now. The values you know nothing about, seeing that your only real contact with Arabs was during the
60 Thomson735 : Allah i think correct me if wrong translates to rather "the only god" i dont have a problem with religeon particularily, but when its forced on other
61 QR332 : You are wrong. Allah translates to God. And even if it did, so what? We believe that there is only one God. Just like the "threat" from Saddam?
62 Thomson735 : Lol there u go again. i love to see america invade and take this idiot out
63 Yellowstone : I tend to agree with Zakaria on this, that Ahmedinejad is a strong populist who is mainly motivated by his desire to keep the people interested and lo
64 Asturias : I never adressed this issue. I'm fairly sure the nuclear research and development in Iran will result in them having nuclear weapons. I don't speak o
65 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Not true . . . but that's okay . . . Spare me.
66 AndesSMF : I am certain many Iranians would say that Saddam was quite a threat. How many Iranians did he kill by his invasion? MAF put it quite bluntly, the sup
67 QR332 : I'm sure you'd love to see America invade and take a lot of other Arabs out as well, you bigoted chav. If you can't respect the views of others, don'
68 ME AVN FAN : I would be careful about such "certainties". When the skyjacking of airplanes from the USA to Cuba was all the fashion, it was seen as a USA-Cuba pro
69 AndesSMF : But it might prompt other Arab countries to develop their own nuclear arsenal.
70 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : And I suppose those Sunni and Shia Iraqis that are bombing each other to pieces really care about other Iraqis right? Actually, if you watched US new
71 Emirates773ER : I have been following this thread for quite some time now and would really like to know how u come up with conclusions which are so utterly ridiculou
72 ME AVN FAN : - "OTHER" Arab countries ? Iran is NOT an Arab country, not at all . - "to develop their nuclear arsenal" is not a short-term affair and not so easy.
73 AndesSMF : Disagreed, Israel has been known to be a nuclear power for decades now, if not since the 60's. Arab countries had plenty of time to have gotten toget
74 ME AVN FAN : - You heard wrong. President Nasr started the Egyptian nuclear program in 1961, and yes, that INCLUDED the ambition to have the bomb. Egypt however i
75 MIAMIx707 : Not useful because you don't like my point of view. How diplomatic.. So I'm a young uneducated fool to you, well I appreciate your suggestion. Now, i
76 Emirates773er : Except what happened in Lebanon and Syria I did not see any over reaction. If a few hundred Muslims out of 1.4 billion take part in rowdy behaviour t
77 MIAMIx707 : A few hundred? yeah right.. do you think I'm stupid or blind? in total it was millions worldwide! Even muslims here in a.net thought it was a stupid
78 Emirates773ER : I was talking about muslims who burnt down embassies. If u think we won't stand up for our religion then u are in major denial of yourself. Then any
79 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Tis my job to be suspicious . . . tis my job to look for the untoward . . . tis my job to seek that which when added 2+2 equals 5 . . . so far, with
80 Post contains images Sylvcath : Are you sure about that? I thought it translated to "Supreme One." I actually read that on an Islamic web site, I can't remember which one. But "God"
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