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Missing Cnet Editor Found Dead In Oregon  
User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/storie..._missing_family_tues.569404ac.html


Very sad news  

My thoughts are with his wife and young children, and the rest of his family and friends.

[Edited 2006-12-06 22:03:50]

[Edited 2006-12-06 22:04:09]

36 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

You might want to change the title to "Missing Oregon Man Found Dead". This one makes it sound like a Cnet editor was kidnapped and killed.

Sorry for the family.  Sad


User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2504 times:

God, my heart stopped when I saw this.

RIP.


User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 1):
You might want to change the title to "Missing Oregon Man Found Dead". This one makes it sound like a Cnet editor was kidnapped and killed.

What??

One, he isn't from Oregon. He's from San Francisco.

Two, if you read the article, you would know he wasn't kidnapped and murdered.... No title change will occur, here.


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3992 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

What's Cnet?

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

I figured he was dead last night when they said they had found his pants.

Stripping off clothes is a big Hypothermia symptom.



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 4):
What's Cnet?

www.cnet.com

Great source for info on techno gadgets, etc.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

He never should have left his family. Their survival measures were perfect until he decided to leave. He'd still be alive if he would have stayed put.

Mark


User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
He'd still be alive if he would have stayed put.

Agreed. They burned the tires on their car...They could have found low branches of nearby trees and broken them off to burn for heat...

So many different things they could have done in order to all survive. It's a shame he died. Very tragic.


User currently offlineCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2475 times:

Sad news. That's a pretty miserable way to die.

RIP James Kim.


User currently offlineHalcyon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

It's a very sad thing. We always lose people in Western MT in the winter, but usually we're taught (my friends and I) some of the basics of what to do and what to not so. Very sad.  Sad

Lucas


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3992 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 6):
Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 4):
What's Cnet?

www.cnet.com

Great source for info on techno gadgets, etc.

Thanks.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):

Perhaps, but he probably did what he thought best for his family, and to second-guess him now is pointless, and doesn't do any good for anyone.

Prayers to his wife and two daughters, and his family and coworkers.


User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3007 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

Very tragic ending. Being in SF, this story was on the news 24/7. Everyone hoping he'd be found alive.

RIP. And my prayers go out to the family.

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

I've been following this since the news of the Kim's disappearance surfaced about a week ago. I was thrilled to hear of James' family's rescue, and I've stayed optimistic that James would be found in a similar condition right up to the announcement of the news today. I was crushed to hear it, and I can only imagine what his family, friends, and co-workers are feeling right now.

James was a senior editor for digital audio at CNET, and did a lot of great work there. I myself have read, watched, and listened to countless numbers of his reviews and opinion pieces.

He was a great man, and will be sorely missed. Sad



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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

Sad news indeed. I knew they wouldn't find the guy alive.

Too bad things like this happen - it should be well-known that in such conditions - do not leave your vehicle!




-NWA742


User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 15):
it should be well-known that in such conditions - do not leave your vehicle!

What's sad, is that it takes an event like this to remind people.

I just hope that his family can heal from this. You never get over it, but the pain will grow less over time.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 16):
What's sad, is that it takes an event like this to remind people.

Very true. Most people in modern countries today don't have any basic survival knowledge or skills. Mother nature can very quickly bring down the toughest of humans, and most fail to realize that when they venture off into a blizzard.





-NWA742


User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 17):
Very true. Most people in modern countries today don't have any basic survival knowledge or skills. Mother nature can very quickly bring down the toughest of humans, and most fail to realize that when they venture off into a blizzard.

Any time I venture off on a road trip during the winter, I pack blankets, water, food, at least one flashlight...etc. Just in case. Especially when I know I'm going through the mountains. I'll sacrifice trunk space and leave something behind for that just in case moment when you find yourself stranded, and your cell not working.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 17):
Most people in modern countries today don't have any basic survival knowledge or skills.

Exactly, which is why I asked "WTF?" when the news said they thought he was taking his clothes off to mark a trail.

Most people don't realize that most Hypothermia cases occur at tempertures above freezing.



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 19):
Exactly, which is why I asked "WTF?" when the news said they thought he was taking his clothes off to mark a trail.

Most people don't realize that most Hypothermia cases occur at tempertures above freezing.

On one of the news stations last night in Portland, they reported finding clothes, but then cut to some "expert" who told them that when hypothermia sets in, you do things you normally wouldn't do, because your judgement is impaired. At least they admitted that he could have been doing that because of impaired judgement due to severe cold.

Some others wouldn't report that.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 20):
On one of the news stations last night in Portland, they reported finding clothes, but then cut to some "expert" who told them that when hypothermia sets in, you do things you normally wouldn't do, because your judgement is impaired. At least they admitted that he could have been doing that because of impaired judgement due to severe cold

If I remember what happens at that stage is that the body shuts down blood flow to the extremities. So you get a false sense of warmth, stop shivering, and actually in many cases start sheding clothes because of a perception of "Warmth".

I commend this expert for actually telling it like it was, and not trying to make up some BS story about leaving a trail for the sake of the family.



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User currently onlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2749 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Aww thats sad.  Sad I was really hoping they would find him alive! I feel really bad for his wife and daughters (which by the way are very young)!  cry 

But great job to the Oregonian's (or just everyone) that helped search, they probably just saved 3 lifes!  Smile

KPDX  Smile



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User currently offlineS12PPL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 21):
I commend this expert for actually telling it like it was, and not trying to make up some BS story about leaving a trail for the sake of the family.

Yeah, well it's amazing they even had anyone on to say that. The way the news stations are in Oregon, the next thing we'll see is them all competing with stupid promo spots of "We were the first on the scene for the desperate search for James Kim and his family!"

Our Governor blasted the media during our recnet floods, letting them know just how pissed off he was that they sensationalized it, getting into a "Mine's bigger than yours" fight over who was the best at reporting the flooding. I may not think he's the best Governor for the state, but at least he had the balls to stand up and put them in their place for it. I hope we don't see one of those contests fot his tragity.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

What a sad story. My thoughts are with his family and friends during this very difficult time.

25 Bobster2 : What they need to do is put a gate on road when it's closed to keep cars out. The tragedy is that this was a known hazard, and it was easily preventab
26 S12PPL : I'm sorry? Where does it say the road should have been closed? If the road is clear, there is no reason to close it. It is, however, up to the driver
27 Bobster2 : It is closed. It's a one-lane dead-end road to nowhere. It is not maintained during the winter. A road with no traffic. That's why it took so damn lo
28 AerospaceFan : There was also something said on talk radio yesterday about a warning that printed on maps printed by one publisher but allegedly not on those printed
29 LTBEWR : The big mistake here was that the family was on an alternative 'back road' that is a short cut to the coast in South West Oregon near Grants Pass, OR
30 AerospaceFan : I do believe that this is fair warning to everyone that winter conditions can still be a killer, even in this age of fancy cell phones and other exam
31 Post contains links AerospaceFan : Here is a link to a Web site with a blog entry on the map thing, saying that a check of Google seemed to show that the road in question was nothing ou
32 S12PPL : You are trying to excuse them for being unprepared. The news last night reported the road was closed off with a gate, however the forest service beli
33 Mikephotos : Having worked with James on a regular basis, this whole event has been very upsetting for me and all of our co-workers. While any news of this sort is
34 Post contains images DavestanKSAN : I was really saddened when I heard this news yesterday. Really a mix of emotions with this story. I'm thankful that Mrs. Kim and her two daughters ar
35 AerospaceFan : I agree with everyone that it's a relief that Mr. Kim's family was found safe, and yet that this doesn't distract attention from the fact that he hims
36 DL021 : Terrible tragedy, and according to the local police this man was motivated to try and find help. He walked an incredible distance before succumbing. H
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