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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3299 times:

I just read that anti-Semitism and the use of the word "Jew" as an insult is growing back in Germany - the article (in German) was about schools in Berlin - this time fuelled by both German Neo-Nazis and fanaticised Muslim students.

I have to ask, what on Earth did they do?! Is it the vicious circle of violence and hatred in the Middle East plus the old "murderers of Jesus" nonsense, is it because Jews are such a small minority they'd never be able to stand up to any of the other traditional world religions, or why do they constantly have to defend themselves? Leave them the hell alone everyone!






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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

Oohhh, this will be interesting.

Let me see - the usual crowd will be here shortly to discuss how the Israelis are henous murderous land grabbing infidels, and the other usual crowd will be here to defend them against the attacking hoards . . .

Quoting Aloges (Thread starter):
Is it the vicious circle of violence and hatred in the Middle East plus the old "murderers of Jesus" nonsense,

Yup, you said it my friend . . . it's ridiculous. All in the name of religion. You don't worship the same God(s) as me so now I have to kill you. Isn't that nearly the dumbest damn reason to maintain a feud you've ever heard?


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

Interesting tidbit I found a few weeks ago regarding anti-semitism in the world prior to WWII.

"In 1939 a Roper poll found that only thirty-nine percent of Americans felt that Jews should be treated like other people. Fifty-three percent believed that "Jews are different and should be restricted" and ten percent believed that Jews should be deported. Several surveys taken from 1940 to 1946 found that Jews were seen as a greater threat to the welfare of the United States than any other national, religious, or racial group."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-semitism


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Let me see - the usual crowd will be here shortly to discuss how the Israelis are henous murderous land grabbing infidels, and the other usual crowd will be here to defend them against the attacking hoards . . .

How right you are...I would rather see a double feature of Gigli and Battlefield Earth then read some of the lovely things that are going to come up here.


User currently offlineCaptainJon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3257 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Yup, you said it my friend . . . it's ridiculous. All in the name of religion. You don't worship the same God(s) as me so now I have to kill you. Isn't that nearly the dumbest damn reason to maintain a feud you've ever heard?

Don't they all know it's the same God as the Christians pray to and yes even Allah is the same God??? I don't know why antisemitism still exists people say it is due to jealously or some other rubbish but why does anyone hate any ethnic group for that matter? Why are the blacks so hated as well? I remember hearing a study in sociology class that people go great lengths to avoid people of certain ethnicities. Such as crossing the street to even avoid eye contact!


User currently offlineCannibalZ3 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

Hating on Jews has been pretty popular for a long time now. I wrote an essay about the Bubonic Plague, and this was part of the result:

While few direct effects remain today, these religious consequences of the Black Death have fundamentally altered the history of Western civilization.
Confusion over the source of outbreak of the plague gave rise to the persecution of Jews. Jews were already strongly disliked in Western Europe previous to the outbreak: there was a long history of previous persecution. Geoffrey Chaucer describes Jews as “’… hateful to Christ and to his compaignye’” (Chaucer qtd. Ziegler 98). Where Jews were allowed to live, restrictions were often placed upon them forcing them into certain trades, houses, and lifestyles. At the time, Jews were widely believed to be involved in witchcraft or other heretical actions. Because rabbinical edicts and kosher law compelled Jews to be somewhat more sanitary than their surroundings, many Jewish communities were temporarily spared the onslaught of the Black Death. Owing to the conception that Jews were not becoming infected with everyone else, medieval Christians found Jews who (generally under torture) confessed to poisoning the wells of their towns and purposely spreading the plague; these admissions led mobs to form, sometimes with the encouragement of local leaders, with the purpose of killing resident Jews where they could be found. In the German city of Mainz estimates of Jews burned alive are as high as twelve thousand; in Strasbourg, sixteen thousand (Ziegler 103). While Ziegler notes that “the persecution of the Jews waned with the Black Death itself; by 1351 it was all over” (108), the European Jewish population suffered an irrecoverable decline. While tempered with the ending of major infection, such attitudes of open hostility towards Jews continued long afterwards. These burnings were neither the first nor the last pogroms of Western Europe, but only represent one instance of anti-Semitism in a history which is spread out over thousands of years. The significance of these particular crackdowns was fully recognized when Duke Casimir II of Poland (seeing Jews as an economic boon) extended an invitation to the Jews of Western Europe to move to his nation. Many surviving Jews families took up his offer, and moved to establish important Jewish communities, some of which still exist today. While far from removed from anti-Semitism, many Jewish families found Poland, the Ukraine and the Baltic regions to be relatively peaceful, and made a place for themselves within the societies and permanently altered the demographics and history of the Jewish people and Eastern Europe.

So, there doesn't necessarily need to BE a good reason to attack Jews. I'm Jewish and not Israeli, but I catch a fair amount of flak for Israeli actions. Whether you support what Israel does or not, nobody can deny that it is currently a prime stimulus for many people's antisemitism.


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3207 times:

Quoting Aloges (Thread starter):

I have to ask, what on Earth did they do?! Is it the vicious circle of violence and hatred in the Middle East plus the old "murderers of Jesus" nonsense, is it because Jews are such a small minority they'd never be able to stand up to any of the other traditional world religions, or why do they constantly have to defend themselves? Leave them the hell alone everyone!

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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Let me see - the usual crowd will be here shortly to discuss how the Israelis are henous murderous land grabbing infidels, and the other usual crowd will be here to defend them against the attacking hoards . . .

I'm here ready to defend, if necessary, just as I was in the Iraq thread earlier.


User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6461 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3200 times:

When looking back in history - hundreds of years: The reason is that Jews in general made subcultures which were more successful in education, economy etc. That made the surrounding (sub-)cultures envious.

The Jews have never been more than a small fraction of one percent of the world population. But if we look at their share of great inventors, scientists, successful businessmen etc....



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3187 times:

Unfortunately it's been true almost since the beginning of time... if you believe that the Bible is historically true. Personally, I believe it comes from spiritual jealousy - hard to explain what that means to me, without starting a flame war.


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User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Israelis are henous murderous land grabbing infidels, and the other usual crowd will be here to defend them against the attacking hoards . . .

Even if this were true it would not justify antisemitism.

pelican


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

Quoting CannibalZ3 (Reply 5):
Whether you support what Israel does or not, nobody can deny that it is currently a prime stimulus for many people's antisemitism.

But as a continuation from my reply #2, there have always been complaints about the Jews in the ME, going back prior to the creation of Israel. There are some who pick up the 'complain of the the day' and run with it till the next ready-made complain is manufactured, therefore never really looking deep to find out WHY they started to complain in the first place.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Quoting Pelican (Reply 9):
Even if this were true it would not justify antisemitism.

Absolutely agree . . . I was merely attempting to point out that our friend ALoges has started yet another thread with the word JEW in the title and therefore the standard issue arguments from the usual crowd will ensue.

There is no room for antisemitism - or any other discrimination - in this world IMO.


User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3133 times:

Well I'm a half-Jew. My Father's side of the family is Jewish. My Mother's side is Catholic.

I'm thankful for both cultures and what I've learned from them.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 11):
There is no room for antisemitism - or any other discrimination - in this world IMO.

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Including not cutting in front of Senior Citizens at the buffet line. Come on, ANC deserves to eat just as much you young bucks.  duck   silly 

Dave



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 12):
Come on, ANC deserves to eat just as much you young bucks.

Have you seen that growing belly? We are doing him a favor by cutting in front of him!

 duck 


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3100 times:

Anti-semitism dates back thousands of years and will likely always be around as long as there are Jews around, and there will always be Jews just as there have been since the times of the Bible...There is still much anti-semitism in the world today, mostly in the Arab/Muslim world and even our fair share on A.net...What is there to do about a poison that has been around for thousands of years?

User currently offlineCairo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3036 times:

As for Aloges' question about anti-semitism in Germany, I've got no idea how to explain that - since I've never lived there - but I think I can comment intelligentally on anti-semitism in the Middle East and probably all Muslim nations.

Today, 1.4 billion Muslims are mostly anti-semitic to some degree, as far as I can tell. How did this get started? That is debateable and probably has many reasons.

What I do know for sure is that the thing that keeps anti-semitism going, and creating new 'converts' everyday, has a very simple explanation: the behavior of Israel.

I am not arguing that what Israel does is right or wrong, all I am saying is that anti-semitism is one result of Israeli policies. It is much like the invasion of Iraq and the opinion of America: whether the invasion was right or wrong is a matter of debate, but the fact remains that it created an anti-American feeling among much of the world.

It could be true that Israel's creation in 1947 was the right thing to do and that everything Israel has done since then has been totally correct, but nevertheless, it is Israel's policies that is the biggest perpetuator of anti-semitism today, at least among Muslims.

Historical precedence and religious reasons are interesting, but my reading of the locals in Egypt and in the handful of other Islamic nations I visit frequently, is that negative opinions of Israel are overwhelmingly what perpetuates anti-semitism.

Anyway, that is my take on Islamic anti-semitism, which I think is the main form of anti-semitism that exists today.

Cairo


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

Thats a subjective question.

If I put my hand on the Polish passport I will answer it one way.

If I put my hand on the American passport I will answer it another way.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21654 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3030 times:

Could it just be that the constant griping gets on people's nerves eventually?  Smile

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3031 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Oohhh, this will be interesting

Wait let me get some popcorn going.....

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 7):
reason is that Jews in general made subcultures which were more successful in education, economy etc.

So in other words, the Jews are the medival equivelent of High School Asian kids in California.

 duck 



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Quoting Cairo (Reply 15):
What I do know for sure is that the thing that keeps anti-semitism going, and creating new 'converts' everyday, has a very simple explanation: the behavior of Israel.

And your explanation for the hundreds and thousands of years of anti-semitism long before the state of Israel formed?


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3009 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 19):
And your explanation for the hundreds and thousands of years of anti-semitism long before the state of Israel formed?

1800 BC is barely in the "thousands"


User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7209 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Someone in the school yard always gets picked on, usually the easy targets with a victim mentality. Put that up to a Global level and you see that the jews are the equivalent of the schoolyard geek with the thick glasses that gets bullied by others.

Humans will always pick on the odd ones out/those who are different, it is a natural mechanism, but as a result someone is always gonna lose out, usually the minorities cos they're the easiest to.


User currently offlineCairo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 19):
And your explanation for the hundreds and thousands of years of anti-semitism long before the state of Israel formed?

I wasn't alive "hundreds and thousands" of years ago to comment about that, but I am sure there are books about it arguing whichever point of view you want to believe.

I make it a policy to comment only on things with which I have first hand knowledge, at least here on a.net. Everything else is just hearsay or borrowing the opinion of a policymaker/journalist.

I can explain Islamic anti-semitism today based on what I hear in the ME. This is from conversations, newspapers, TV, and so on.

Btw, don't confuse an explanation with justification.

Cairo


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4836 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Quoting Cairo (Reply 15):
Today, 1.4 billion Muslims are mostly anti-semitic to some degree, as far as I can tell. How did this get started? That is debateable and probably has many reasons.

Well my understanding of how it (Muslim anti-semitism) started (in very rough terms) was that the Prophet Mohamed started up going around organising people for his new religion, in the process he asked them for funding to help pay for it all (gold, jewels, gifts of kind etc etc), when he got to the Jews however they refused and told him to get lost him and his new religion. He then declared that Jews were evil and must be destroyed etc etc, to this day the koran encourages this and of course when the modern day state of Israel was set up next to several Muslim countries what we have today is the result. Yes Israel takes things a bit too far often and should give back territory, but at the same time they have a right to live and in peace without terrorists or suicide bombers disturbing that. In many ways they are quite restrained as they could bomb the shit out of any of the surrounding countries, and failing that they could nuke them all.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 20):
1800 BC is barely in the "thousands"

quite correct. Islam has not been around for a very long time at all compared to Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddism etc



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

I often wondered why too.Is it to do with Jealousy.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
25 Dtwclipper : Let's see what we did: We killed Christ We did not accept Mohammad We used Christian baby blood to make our Matzo We caused the Plague We stabbed the
26 Superfly : Hatred against any race/national origin of people is wrong. Now let me ask; What on earth did the Blacks do to anyone? What on earth did the Latinos d
27 Dtwclipper : Read: State Sponsored Anti-Semitism!
28 Cxsjr : IMHO, religion is a dictatorship with no boundries!
29 Post contains images HAWK21M : Which Indians are you reffering to.Native Indians or the Indians from India regds MEL
30 Post contains images Mt99 : "it's hard to be a jew on christmas, my friends won't let me join in any games, and i can't sing christmas songs or decorate a christmas tree, or leav
31 Post contains images Superfly : Natives here in America. Now do you have an answer?
32 Keesje : I'm going to say something somewhat dangerous here.. A large percentage of every populations are not so bright, well even .. They don't need good reas
33 Mirrodie : WHAT?! Thank you. I really don't see what the problem is. Everyone is Jewish. Catholics are impatient Jews (couldn't wait for that Messiah and took t
34 MD11Engineer : Are you refering to incidents of the type like this German Jewish highschool girl being attacked by Arab teenagers (boys and girls) in Berlin Kreuzbe
35 Post contains images Superfly :
36 Post contains images Mandala499 : What did they do? They turned left after crossing the red sea instead of turning right! So they ended up with the oranges and not the oil... Oh... han
37 Post contains images ANCFlyer : See, I told you . . . Spot on Larry!
38 Post contains images F9Animal : I have no idea what "jews" did to get such a bad name. Nothing pisses me off more than a subject like this. Anybody who hurts or kills someone because
39 FlyUSCG : I believe it basically comes from the perception of superiority. My RA (resident-advisor) freshman year finally put it in a way that made sense (in t
40 Yellowstone : Close but no cigar. There was a strong Jewish community in the area of Mecca at the time of the Prophet Muhammad. When Muhammad started preaching the
41 PSA727 : It's completely wrong to base anti-semitism on the killing of Christ. Long before the time of Jesus, Jews were not treated that well by the public...t
42 Superfly : I can't speak for France but you are spot on about Russia. I started a thread a few months ago about the numerous random Nazi/Skinhead killings that
43 ShakeZulaNJ : I don't know where it comes from. If I had to make a random stab in dark... Hostory has not been kind to the Jewish population. Shakespeare's Shylock
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