AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2516 times:
I took an accident similar to this once, a stupid Greyhound driver left his route and drove the passenger to his mobile home (in all fairness just in case ORD2pm is reading this, the driver was just helping a passenger) didn't see the overhead extension from the post office and oops. I'm sure Greyhound management didn't appreciate it.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13078 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2340 times:
The problem is that it was ok for the older busses, but not high enough for those that use Compressed Natural Gas and other 'clean' fuels as their tanks are located on the roof of the bus, raising their height. It seems to me that the structure was too low in the first place, probably due to various reasons that made sense then. Maybe they could lower the street level of the busses paths or reconfigure the busses so their fuel supplies don't raise the height of the busses.
Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2239 times:
Quoting Bohica (Thread starter): The Washington DC transit system (Metro) built a new bus terminal at one of their subway stations for the comfort of their passengers. One problem: nobody measured the height of the bus.
Just another bright move by the Washington Metropolitan Area transit authority. They continually bitch about not being funded properly, but can't seem to get the basics down, like making sure you buy buses that fit the stations you have already constructed.
Helvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2234 times:
Reminds me of when I lived in SE London, British Rail (as it then was) bought a new set of trains to replace the 40 year old slam door trains and they made a slight cock up with the dimensions. In that the trains were too big to go through Blackheath and Penge tunnels.
Cue massive disruption as the tunnels were dug out to allow these new trains to run.
A second cock up with these trains, the contract to build them was split between two manufacturers. The trains are joined with a powered coupling that not only couples the trains but also connects the control buses, electrics, air etc. When the second manufacturer got the wiring diagram it somehow got reversed so they could only run one manufacturers trains together with the same set until everything was rewired. You see it's not just Airbus that does this kind of thing.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2226 times:
DC wants a REAL bus station with a high enough roof?
This is a REAL bus station with a really really high roof, built right ontop of a train station's platforms!
Intermodal transportation at its finest...
Our Swiss friends or those who have visited Switzerland should recognize this station...
Getting back to the topic, here in Denver there are two city bus stations. One that is below the ground and one that is in an office building, much like this new DC station.
The one that is in an office building has a ramp right at the entance since the area for the buses is actually slightly below ground because of ceiling height. This was the only way to do it unless they made the 2nd floor of the office building really high, which they did not want to do.
If this DC station is not slightly below ground, perhaps they should attempt to dig up the existing bus parking space and make it slightly below ground as others have suggested.
"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2204 times:
Quoting BA (Reply 13): If this DC station is not slightly below ground, perhaps they should attempt to dig up the existing bus parking space and make it slightly below ground as others have suggested.
Apparently not possible.
Quote: Other solutions, such as raising the bus station's ceiling -- the lowest floor of an office building -- are unrealistic, officials say. Same for lowering the floor, which is at street level. Digging down would be costly and could affect the building's foundation.
Just another massive waste of government money where no one will be held accountable.
EmiratesA345 From Canada, joined Jun 2003, 2123 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2190 times:
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 9): Maybe they could lower the street level of the busses paths or reconfigure the busses so their fuel supplies don't raise the height of the busses.
Lowering the street level is more likely than reconfiguring the buses. This would by no means be a simple fix and by looking at this picture, you'll understand why.
This particular bus here is powered by Natural Gas. Some hydrogen powered coaches have similar roofs as this one, however it extends right from the front of the bus, all the way to the rear.
Having a roof over this type of vehicle is also potentially a safety hazard. Natural Gas is lighter than air, so when it is released into the atmosphere, naturally, it goes up. The gas is also very explosive. That being said, you can see why having a roof over a natural gas bus is not the greatest of ideas. This is also one of the reasons why the Toronto Transit Commision has rebuilt their Natural Gas units, into diesels.
57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2133 times:
Being involved with the transit industry, my observation is roof clearance situations are usually the fault of the building designer failing to take into account the standard motor vehicle clearances. We had such a situation here in Tucson, Arizona with a pedestrian bridge known locally as the "Rattlesnake" bridge (it was made to look like a rattlesnake). The designers originally made the verticle clearance too low-to the point that a normal tractor trailer would hit it (and did-TWICE before the bridge was built with the proper clearance). At Tucson International Airport, the terminal overhang at the landside dropoff on the upper level was designed improperly-again leaving insufficient clearance for commercial vehicles (specifically motorcoaches). It is now marked with a flashing amber light and low clearance sign.
"When a man runs on railroads over half of his lifetime he is fit for nothing else-and at times he don't know that."