LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2818 times:
I hope that for the sake of the country, President Michelle Bachelet, herself a dissident of the Pinochet regime who lived a few years in East Germany in exile, decides that he does NOT get a state funeral. I also hope the Chilean Military will NOT give him a military funeral. Anything else would mean that he gets honours and Pinochet is NOT an honourable person, but a murderer and dictator.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2732 times:
Quoting Miamiair (Reply 24): I wonder what people will say of Fidel Castro when he goes? Pinochet was an alterboy next to him.
Exactly. While Pinochet's human rights abuses were inexcusable, they were no worse than those of any other Latin American dictator. In this regard, he was a typical Latin American leader.
What Pinochet did do well was implement free market reforms which has helped Chile build a strong economy in the last 30 years that is the envy of Latin America. Pinochet was also a strong supporter of the UK in the Falklands war.
If Pinochet is to be villified for his human rights record, then he should also be praised for his pro-market reforms.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Arcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2406 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2722 times:
Well, to be honest I don't desire him to burn in hell, or a hard death.
I just sorry for this country which was unable to judge him and make him pay for all the abuses and atrocities of his regime. I feel shamed to see some of my country people actually mourning him.
Anyway, the so called economy miracle would be nothing without our democratic governments keeping the right path. He had nobody to oppose to his ideas and many, many of his government's great ideas are now revealing how unfortunate they were: education, administrative organization, that horrible constitution of ours, etc.
But he's gone. Rest in Peace, at least his mourners will know where to cry for him. Thousands of mothers, sons and wives aren't that lucky, for they'll never know what happened with their beloved ones.
Nothing to celebrate, no hard desired here. Pinochet; just die and be grateful for your damn good luck. I hope you finally realized everything...
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Derico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4302 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2667 times:
Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 25): Pinochet was also a strong supporter of the UK in the Falklands war.
And only you would bring that issue to the forefront. When in fact, most Chileans found it despicable that Pinochet actively helped Britain, when at the very least he could have stayed in the sidelines...
Unless you are going to say Britain would have lost without Chile's help!
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: Yyz717 and MIAMIx707, my thinking exactly!! Wise words! It's sad that most people, and that includes some users here as well, don't happen to know the
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