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I Want To Lose My Virginity...  
User currently offlineIamcanadian From Canada, joined May 2001, 734 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

My gun virginity that is...

I've always been curious to know what it feels like to shoot a gun. Now that I'm 18 (legal age here in Alberta), I figured that since I don't drink OR go to strip clubs, that I could celebrate by pumping lead into a target with a buddy of mine at the local shooting range.

As a first time gun-handler/shooter/seeing a gun in real life, what are your tips/suggestions?

What is a good gun for first-timers? What's the best way to hold the gun? What's a FUN gun to shoot?

I've seen a couple gun threads lately, but I didn't notice anything directed towards people who don't already use guns. But the discussions DID have plenty of whining about how HARD it is to get a gun, as well as raves about which gun could blow the head off of somebody faster!  

Anyways, all comments are welcomed and appreciated!

Rgds,

Mike

EDIT: Clarification
EDIT: Spelling

[Edited 2006-12-12 16:33:53]

[Edited 2006-12-12 16:34:40]


Shut up and calculate.
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User currently offlineStrasserB From Singapore, joined Nov 2005, 1541 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4290 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
I Want To Lose My Virginity...

Without any further comment:




Still, even in the most arid desert is an airport somewhere ...
User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

I am no fan of guns, as many of you well know. However, if you want to go shooting for the first time I would suggest going to a local firing range,but first get proper instruction before you fire the blasted thing. The internet is no place for advice on how to hold a gun, for crying out loud....or which gun is the most fun.


'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
User currently offline808TWA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 701 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4259 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
I've always been curious to know what it feels like to shoot a gun. Now that I'm 18 (legal age here in Alberta), I figured that since I don't drink OR go to strip clubs, that I could celebrate by pumping lead into a target with a buddy of mine.

Come to Toronto, where many "people" were also curious as to how it would feel to shoot a gun....sadly they also learned that curiosity killed more than the cat.

Maybe drinking or strip clubs would be a better alternative.



Love is in the air, so practice safe flying
User currently offlineIamcanadian From Canada, joined May 2001, 734 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4227 times:

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 2):
I would suggest going to a local firing range

Sorry, I meant to put in my original post that I WAS going to a range. I've clarified that.  Smile

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 2):
first get proper instruction

Obviously sensible advice.  Smile At the range, they have a trained professional standing behind you at ALL times, watching you, so there is no lack of supervision.  Wink

Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 2):
internet is no place for advice on how to hold a gun

Well, I figured that with the number of gun threads lately, and the number of Americans  Wink there would be no shortage of knowledgable gun users.

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 3):
many "people" were also curious as to how it would feel to shoot a gun

Are you talking about gang members and cold blooded murderers?  confused 

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 3):
Maybe drinking or strip clubs would be a better alternative.

Many people were curious as to how it would be to get hammered out of their mind. Sadly, they learned that curiosity AND alcohol poisoning killed the cat.  sarcastic 



Shut up and calculate.
User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4227 times:

Smoothest shot I've experienced was a Kimber .45 cal. Smooth as a mother's kiss.

My best advice is DON'T LIMP-WRIST. Otherwise, you'll get more of a shock than you're prepared for.


User currently offline808TWA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 701 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Reply 4):
Are you talking about gang members and cold blooded murderers?

And careless, curious kids.

Quoting Iamcanadian (Reply 4):
Many people were curious as to how it would be to get hammered out of their mind. Sadly, they learned that curiosity AND alcohol poisoning killed the cat

True, but shooting a gun can change someone elses life or end it. Alcohol and strip clubs won't likely do that unless you step into a car afterwards.



Love is in the air, so practice safe flying
User currently offlineHalcyon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Reply 4):
Sadly, they learned that curiosity AND alcohol poisoning killed the cat.

And a semi that "somehow" ended up in the "wrong" lane. Great response!  Wink Best of luck to you, I hope you have fun. Guns are just as safe as the next thing with proper training, and you'll quickly find some of their joys.

Lucas


User currently offlineIlikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4177 times:

Have fun!

I've always had more fun with the handguns than rifles or shotguns. There are many guns out there and they are all different. What works for some people won't work for others. Just make sure it is comfortable to hold and shoot- otherwise the gun won't be fun to shoot. If all you do is shoot targets, or "plinking" it really doesn't matter what caliber you use.

If you have a good time, you should consider coming to next year's A.net shoot-out!

BTW, where are the shooting ranges in Calgary? I'll be there for Christmas, I wouldn't mind going there when I am home in a few weeks.



Fighting Absurdity with Absurdity!
User currently offlineIlikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4169 times:

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 6):
but shooting a gun can change someone elses life or end it

...if the user is stupid and careless with it.... like a drunk driver with his car.



Fighting Absurdity with Absurdity!
User currently offlineIamcanadian From Canada, joined May 2001, 734 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4151 times:

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 6):
And careless, curious kids.

And, you're stereotyping me as a careless and curious kid based on the fact that I want to exercise my ADULT priveledges and go fire a gun within the confines of bulletproof glass and a supervisor trained in the martial arts?

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 6):
True, but shooting a gun can change someone elses life or end it. Alcohol and strip clubs won't likely do that unless you step into a car afterwards.

Alcohol Becomes Leading Killer In Finland, Surpasses Heart Disease
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http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/alcohol.htm

Number of Alcohol Induced Deaths (EXCLUDING accidents/homocides) in 2003 in the U.S.:

20,687

Number of Alcoholic Liver Disease Deaths in 2003 in the U.S.:

12,360

Don't tell me alcohol doesn't do any damage unless you step in a car. Maybe you should research your facts before making ignorant and blind claims.

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 7):

Thank you!

Thanks everyone for your responses so far!



Shut up and calculate.
User currently offline808TWA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 701 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4108 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Reply 10):
And, you're stereotyping me as a careless and curious kid based on the fact that I want to exercise my ADULT priveledges and go fire a gun within the confines of bulletproof glass and a supervisor trained in the martial arts?

Wow, talking about reading between the lines. I made no such claim about YOU whatsoever, I was just clarifying what I had meant, since you brought it into question in reply 4 (murderers & gang members). You also did not state anything about bulletproof glass and a supervisor in your original post.

Quoting Iamcanadian (Reply 10):
Don't tell me alcohol doesn't do any damage unless you step in a car. Maybe you should research your facts before making ignorant and blind claims.

I certainly did not claim that alcohol doesn't do any damage unless you step into a car, it can create major problems if not kept in check. I was merely stating that guns tend to kill others, whereas alcohol predominantly kills the abuser.

If you are not willing to accept a different viewpoint on a subject, how about stating that you only wish to receive positive responses in your threads and not the "all comments are welcomed and appreciated!" which you stated in your original post  

If you get this defensive over a simple point of view, then I'd much rather know that you do not have access to a gun.

[Edited 2006-12-12 17:40:41]


Love is in the air, so practice safe flying
User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4101 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
Now that I'm 18 (legal age here in Alberta),

Congratulations.

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
I figured that since I don't drink OR go to strip clubs

What else is there to do in Canada?

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
What's the best way to hold the gun?

At a 90 degree angle, like the gangsters in the movies. Talk to the targets, thell em you're gonna cap them in the **.

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
What's a FUN gun to shoot?

Gattling gun. Artillery?

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
What is a good gun for first-timers?

Fully auto machine gun. Pump the target full of lead.


User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4077 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
I've always been curious to know what it feels like to shoot a gun.

Target shooting is a very enjoyable pastime. You'll probably enjoy it.

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 5):
Smoothest shot I've experienced was a Kimber .45 cal. Smooth as a mother's kiss.

Excellent choice. What I'd recommend is going to the range, find a knowledgeable instructor, and have him/her fit a gun for your hand.


User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11953 posts, RR: 46
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4044 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
I've always been curious to know what it feels like to shoot a gun.

It feels kinda... fun. I tried out various weapons in the Air Force.

Handheld gun, a Glock P something (58 maybe?): Surprisingly easy to use, for someone who until then had only tried an airgun. It kinda fell right back to the point I was aiming at, after being fired. Fun to try.

MP5, rifle: Kinda boring when firing individual shots, but on automatic it was more entertaining. Light, and steady.

AG-3 rifle: Nicknamed "the Norwegian cannon" as not many other countries allow such powerful rifles to be the basic weapon for people doing the national service. Very powerful, and a "massive" weapon. I found it hopeless on automatic though... almost overpowering, and it was hard to hit the target.

MG machine gun: Dunno what other names this weapon has... Although it can be carried "Terminator" style, we placed it firmly on the ground and had one soldier feeding the ammo, while the other fired. Powerful gun, but as we were operating it flat on the ground, we didn't really feel the power.

Guns and rifles can be a blast in closed areas and under safe supervision. Personally I wouldn't own a gun in private, and I'm happy they are not as easy to get hold of in Norway as in other countries.

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineIamcanadian From Canada, joined May 2001, 734 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 4004 times:

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 11):
I was just clarifying what I had meant, since you brought it into question in reply 4 (murderers & gang members).

Fair enough, but I'm sure you wouldn't have mentioned these "incidents" of curiosity if you hadn't implied that I would end up being one of them.  sarcastic 

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 11):
You also did not state anything about bulletproof glass and a supervisor in your original post.

Well, that might be a result of my naivety. I figured that those elements were standard at firing ranges.  Smile

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 11):
I certainly did not claim that alcohol doesn't do any damage unless you step into a car,

Did you?

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 6):
Alcohol and strip clubs won't likely do that unless you step into a car afterwards.

 scratchchin 

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 11):
how about stating that you only wish to receive positive responses in your threads and not the "all comments are welcomed and appreciated!" which you stated in your original post

How about actually responding to the questions I ASKED in the orignal post, rather than trolling and and throwing out condescending comments unrelated to my questions?



Shut up and calculate.
User currently offline808TWA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 701 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3980 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Reply 15):
Quoting 808TWA (Reply 11):
I certainly did not claim that alcohol doesn't do any damage unless you step into a car,

Did you?

Correct, I did not. I was attempting to explain that Alcohol tends to kill the consumer if drank in excess unless you decide to drive a car afterwards which will then put others at risk. A gun tends to kill someone other than yourself.

Quoting Iamcanadian (Reply 15):
How about actually responding to the questions I ASKED in the orignal post, rather than trolling and and throwing out condescending comments unrelated to my questions?

My comments were directly related to the subject at hand and I don't appreciate you attempting to demean my comments by inferring that I was trolling. There certanly were no condescending comments made to you whatsoever and if this is how you read them to be, then I'm sorry.

I really don't care one way or another if you chose to go and shoot a gun in a controlled area.....My point is that guns are designed to kill or harm whether it's accidental or intentional.

I have nothing against you whatsoever and wish you all the best in whatever you chose to enjoy, if my comments somehow offended or read in some other context than was intended then I apologise.



Love is in the air, so practice safe flying
User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

Ahh yes, you'll always remember your first time. For me, it was the fully automatic, gas operated, air cooled C7 assualt rifle. I even remember on basic giving her the name, "Tara".



YWG Big grin



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User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3947 times:

A few things Ill point out. First thing is, I wouldnt recommend starting out on a .45 .357 or something to large. It isnt a macho thing, it is about having a fun and safe time. I hear tons of stories about folks who have never shot before and they get handed a .44, shoot it once and realise...hey that wasnt much fun.
It wouldnt be a bad idea to begin with a .22, I am not sure if you are shooting rifles or pistols etc. But a .22 is very light on recoil and noise. You can practice the mechanics of firing a gun and actually hitting targets without the other distractions. Then after a few reloads, move onto something bigger. But until you have some experience stay away from the double 00 buck in your buddies 12 gauge, his large bore pistol, or his +30 caliber centerfire rifle. That is not what to start with.
I often bring first time shooters out, first day is a few mags of .22 out of a rifle and a pistol, then a few mags out of a .223 mini-14, followed by some bird shot out of a 20ga. Then call it a day.


User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3947 times:

Get an Uzi!!! You won't look back!


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3931 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 5):
My best advice is DON'T LIMP-WRIST. Otherwise, you'll get more of a shock than you're prepared for.

Good advice. Also go after a lesser powered gun to begin with. No need to start with the .44 Desert Eagle hand cannon.

Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 12):
At a 90 degree angle, like the gangsters in the movies. Talk to the targets, thell em you're gonna cap them in the **.

Ah yes...the gangsta style of shooting a gun and then quickly breaking their wrist or having their hand come flying back only to have the barrel of the gun smack them in the face from the shock. (I know you're joking so sarcasm isn't lost on me here.)

Quoting YWG (Reply 17):
I even remember on basic giving her the name, "Tara".


Tonight you will give your rifle a name because it is the only pussy you are going to get. Your days of finger banging MaryJane Rottencrotch are over.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineIamcanadian From Canada, joined May 2001, 734 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3788 times:

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 16):

Well, I'm sorry I took your comments to offense... it's just that I don't appreciate stereotypes of any kind, but I understand that there were none intended. Have a good day.  Smile

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 18):

Sounds like good advice! Thanks!

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 20):
No need to start with the .44 Desert Eagle hand cannon.

Boooooooo! Party pooper!  Wink



Shut up and calculate.
User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 20):
Also go after a lesser powered gun to begin with. No need to start with the .44 Desert Eagle hand cannon.

I started the Mrs. with a Walther .380. Now she puts me to shame with her Glock 19.

Quoting YWG" class=quote target=_blank>YWG:
YWG From Canada,



Quoting YWG" class=quote target=_blank>YWG:
For me, it was the fully automatic, gas operated, air cooled C7 assualt rifle.

I'm just shocked the Canadian military upgraded from flintlocks. Who knew?


User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Sounds like someone has a case of the "no girls will date me - itis" and feels like they need to go shoot a gun.

Perhaps I just cannot see the "fun" in a killing machine.

1011yyz



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User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Thread starter):
As a first time gun-handler/shooter/seeing a gun in real life, what are your tips/suggestions?

What is a good gun for first-timers? What's the best way to hold the gun? What's a FUN gun to shoot?

It's great that you have an interest in firearms and it looks like you are wanting to explore that interest in a resposible manner! You'll have a great time and it will be not only something that you'll always remember, but also likely begin a long-time hobby if you start right.

Like many of my peers have already suggested, you might want to start with something small and work your way up. I hope you are able to find an instructor/mentor who works with you and has a lot of different firearms available for you to try.

As far as the best way to hold a gun, there are lots of books available that can show you information like that much better than it can be explained in a web forum. Your instructor or other experienced shooters can help you work on it. In the meantime, here's an EXCELLENT illustrated instruction page to get you started: http://www.handgunsmag.com/tactics_training/grip_0925/ I wish you were closer to where I am because I really like to help beginners get started.

Good gun for first timers? That's like asking what the best airplane is! There are lots of them that are easy to shoot and your mentor can let you try different ones. Again, start small and work your way up!

FUN gun to shoot? ALL OF THEM!!! Shooting is a lot of fun and you'll have a great time!

There are always a few in every crowd......

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 16):
I really don't care one way or another if you chose to go and shoot a gun in a controlled area.....My point is that guns are designed to kill or harm whether it's accidental or intentional.

No, that is simply not correct. Some guns are, not all of them. Some guns would actually be a very poor choice if someone's intention is to use it to end the life of another living being.

Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 23):
Sounds like someone has a case of the "no girls will date me - itis" and feels like they need to go shoot a gun.

Perhaps I just cannot see the "fun" in a killing machine.

Then why are you driving a car? It is cabable of killing as well if someone chooses to use it in that manner.

You and 808TWA are talking about something you know absolutely nothing about. I challenge you to take some initiative and go do what Iamcanadian is doing. Spend a few bucks and a day's time to get some instruction at a range. Read something about firearms and shooting somewhere other than just what you hear in the media.

This is not a "Gun Control" thread. If you want to debate that, start a thread and we'll discuss it.


25 Post contains links and images ShyFlyer : Poor thing, she must be cold... This one : View Large View MediumPhoto © Iiro Hakala Though I don't think you will find it at your local range t
26 Post contains images Thepilot :
27 IAH777 : You should dispose of your shovel, baseball bat, kitchen knives and pillow. Lop-off your hands while you're at it.
28 HAWK21M : Watch for the Recoil. regds MEL
29 STLGph : why....hello there, what's your name?
30 Siren : I've always been partial to the Springfield Arms Subcompact XD .40, and also the Kahr PM40, though I'd never buy the latter (mustn't finance conservat
31 Post contains images Ilikeyyc : Don't be scared of STLGph... he's just a little happy since he lost his last month!
32 Post contains images Iamcanadian : Thanks for the thought you put into your response! I am quite looking forward to my outing, and I'll update you on how it went. Will do! That was one
33 Post contains images KaiGywer : Glad to see that you want to learn about a very fun (and very expensive) hobby. While that's true, you can look at all the pictures in the world witho
34 A342 : Sure, but a car isn't designed to kill people. Flame me all you want, but most guns are.
35 IAH777 : Actually, a gun is designed to fire a projectile. It is a tool often used by people to stupid to comprehend the value of human life. Therefore, it is
36 Post contains images CastleIsland : You need to get a fucking life.
37 Post contains images LTU932 : Speaking of which... WARNING: Explicit language
38 Post contains images ZBBYLW : HAHA this looks like it comes from a movie, which one?
39 Post contains links Ilikeyyc : Full Metal Jacket http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093058/
40 Post contains images Keesje : A minigun seems the right choice. There always be a bullit hitting a target. Don't be bothered by treehugger saying you should't play with guns. It is
41 Post contains images LTU932 : " target=_blank>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093058/ Featuring Gunnery Sergeant R. Lee Ermey, USMC Ret. as Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, our favourite Dri
42 Post contains images Thom@s : That's probably it yeah. You didn't miss much, the AG is more fun... Thom@s
43 Queso : When was your birthday? Did you get to go to the range?
44 Post contains images Iamcanadian : My birthday was back in November, and no, I haven't gone YET... I'm planning on getting out there in the new year, just with Christmas coming and all
45 Ilikeyyc : Where is/are the range(s) in Calgary? I ask because I'll be in YYC next week.
46 Post contains links Iamcanadian : The one I'm looking at going to is called The Shooting Edge: Bay #4, 510 77 Avenue S.E., Calgary Alberta, Canada http://www.theshootingedge.com/ Way
47 Queso : Wow, that looks like a really nice place! Looks clean and the prices aren't bad......AND THEY HAVE TONS OF SIGS!!!!!!
48 Ilikeyyc : Thanks for the info! If I have time, I'll pay them a visit next week.
49 KaiGywer : Not bad? $27 for a box of 40S&W?!
50 Queso : Yeah, that's a bit steep but I was referring to this part: $33/day - (No license required - Under 18 years of age is only $16/day) # Unlimited use of
51 KaiGywer : The range price isn't bad, but this is what gets me. Makes the decent range time price seem so much more expensive. After all, who goes to the range
52 Queso : Yeah, I thought about that after I posted. A typical range session for me would equal the price of a good used car! I checked the exchange rate a lit
53 Post contains images Iamcanadian : Haha, yeah, but one of the reasons for going NOW was that I could sign my own waiver form! You really think my parents would be willing to be liable
54 Tom12 : Or an AK-47 ... sorted. lol, Tom
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