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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1403 times:

I do my best to never talk poorly of another one's country. I try my best to be accepting of other cultures. I try my best to see the beauty in every part of the world and every person. I respect other's governements, I try to do all of these things, but for what? Airliners.net is my place to come and relax, read up on things about aviation and the world, but all I hear is people telling me how much my country sucks. How terrible we are, how WE, yes WE are the terrorists, even though we aren't doing the killing. You people try to find every thing you can to link my country to the funding and deployment of terrorism and you try and find every little thing you can to make me feel ashamed of being American. I should hope that you NEVER come here and visit our beautiful home, in fact, don't you ever think about coming here at all.

I am proud to be an American, and proud of the things we stand for. Why? Why, is it that I have to come here and there is always something against America? Why doesn't anyone talk badly about other countries? You know, there are plenty of wrong doings in other countries in Europe, Asia, Africa etc, but you hardly EVER hear an American saying bad things about them. You hardly ever hear us talking poorly of your government. I don't understand why you can constantly belittle us when we have provided the world with so many great things. Boeing, space exploration, coca cola, pizza hut........things that you all take for granted. A lot of them come from HERE! And its not just things, in the US there is so much diversity, and this diversity exists in peace, it is a model for other societies.

Listen, I appreciate your countries. I love to travel to Europe, been to China twice, Japan, South Korea, Switzerland, France, Italy, UK, I just don't understand why you think your countries never do anything wrong and why its always my country's fault. Now, Im not saying we are never wrong, but everyone focuses on the bad, its almost like you think we are satan and the root of all evil in this world. I am a nice person, full of the American ideal, I am not this "great satan" as our good friend calls me and other american citizens.

Honestly, this has gone very far, and it is wearing on me. I don't really like to come to Airliners.net that much anymore, because I am shunned for being an American. I have been at airliners.net for over two years, and this has just gotten out of hand. I believe in freedom of speech, but your comments really offend a lot of people, people who just want to talk to other people around the world, in a lady-like or gentlemanly-like way.

Its funny, because if you look at these discussions, it usually involves an American having to defend himself, and then you turn it around saying we started the fight.........stop guys....please. I love my country, but you make it so hard to even say that I am from America here.

UAL747

49 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

Very well said!

User currently offlineMilldoh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1270 times:

hypocrisy... I tried to start a discussion about this yesterday, albeit in a different manner and low and behold, the post was deleted. I was also called stupid. But I learned that these hypocrites cannot understand and cannot accept criticism, yet when we defend our country we are seen as arrogant Americans. I pity them for it.

User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

Great postage. They should make a stamp with this.  Big grin

 Big thumbs up


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

Although some of your points are not strictly true, and some of your examples flawed, i agree with your mentality.

There is alot of US Bashing going on, i think people don't like the attitude of the people, but as far as i know it is just part of nature being a US citizen to be like that, and many people can't handle that stance.

Regards

Dan


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

Dan, you get the

There is alot of US Bashing going on, i think people don't like the attitude of the people, but as far as i know it is just part of nature being a US citizen to be like that, and many people can't handle that stance.

What? That makes no damn sense.


User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6287 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

As a daily user of ANet, I have yet to read many posts "bashing' The US. My skin is not so thin as to take umbrage when someone questions US motives or actions. I take it as a serious question. Would you be so kind as to provide examples of what you refer to as "US bashing"?


Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1195 times:

IMissPiedmont. In all seriousness, if you are a regular user, there are lots of threads that have bashed the US, the US citizens, ect. More so, it is individualized posts that do much of the damage. I have thick skin, and can take allot, but the minute someone from the US stands up for his country, or defends the people, he gets chastized. Sorry I don't have a memorized list of threads or posts (Many of which end up deleted), but they happen with a regular occurence here.

User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1197 times:

I havent read any of those threads from the european users that bash the USA with their "Holier than Thou" attitudes in a long time. Its a waste of time.

User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1190 times:

Oh, and a word of advice. NEVER EVER say ANYTHING against Isreal.

User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1187 times:

Never, ever rever....

User currently offlineYHU From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Unfortunately, all too often for those of us in other countries, the Americans we see are the arrogant ones. Of all the US tourists in Montreal, who am I going to notice. The quiet ones that blend in, or the loud arrogant ones? This creates a steriotype of all Americans being arrogant and creates a disliking for them. As usual, it's the bad ones that ruin it for the rest. It's worst in places like Europe (and here in French Montreal) where it is harder for American's to blend in and the arrogant ones seem even more arrogant.

I can see the point of view of some of the bashing posts, but not against all Americans, just the types that visit somewhere like Tunis and can't understand why no one will speak to them in English, and insist on it!

Anyway, as a Canadian/Britt, I'm sure some people would have the same negative view on me.

Dave


User currently offlineAC_A340 From Canada, joined Sep 1999, 2251 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

First of all, there are some fallacies in your argument, but I know what you are trying to say, and agree.

I don't understand why you can constantly belittle us when we have provided the world with so many great things. Boeing, space exploration, coca cola, pizza hut

Not necessarily good things btw.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

Yeah, and its always the Americans that are loud and arrogant.  Yeah sure

User currently offlineYHU From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

It's not always the Americans that are loud and arrogant, but when your in another country and speak English.......Your now American. I constantly being confused as an American, even with my Scottish Accent. That's why I say people probably look at me just as badly.

Dave


User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

Unfortunately, all too often for those of us in other countries, the Americans we see are the arrogant ones. Of all the US tourists in Montreal, who am I going to notice. The quiet ones that blend in, or the loud arrogant ones?

Ok.. Now... Would I be right in saying that all British people have crooked grills (teeth)? Even though thats my perception from all the British I see, I wouldnt make the judgment saying all British people have crooked teeth. I would keep it to myself, right?



User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

Hey pal; The US never got the job done during WW 1 and WW 2 By being quiet and submissive. What about the situations in otyher countries that the US has taken care off in other countries. That is never bought up. I also question Johan; Only once has he stuck up for the US by telling off a user and let me tell you I've seen better tell offs. This one was like a slap on the wrist. When the US users try to defend themselves we are deleted and the antiUS posts from some euro guy is left up for weeks til it is archived!


"FUIMUS"
User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1171 times:

KROC and I have approached Johan about this very issue. I thought the same. He replied to me stating that he doesnt take sides. I believe him in a way. Only thing that pisses me off is when these messages are just archived and not deleted. They should be deleted.

User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1166 times:

Imisspiedmont,

If you want an example from today, take a look at the post, American Hypocrites, by ElAL401 for an example of what I'm talking about.

UAL747


User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1158 times:

I kind of like the phrase he used, "Sept. 11 is now in the past, get the f*ck over it."

UAL747


User currently offlineYHU From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 429 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

"Ok.. Now... Would I be right in saying that all British people have crooked grills (teeth)? Even though thats my perception from all the British I see, I wouldnt make the judgment saying all British people have crooked teeth. I would keep it to myself, right?"

I didn't say all Americans were anything. What I said was that a Stariotype (yes, which are bad...just like the bad toothed Britt Stariotype) is what most of the world think of when they think of Americans (as many have not actually been to the US). So the US gets stuck with a bad rap. didn't say that the Stariotype was correct. I have to travel to the US a lot on business and I find the majority of them quite nice.

Dave



User currently offlineP&M From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1136 times:

All those stereotypes like, English have bad teeth, French eat frogs, Germans are Nazi's, Americans are inbreeders, Italians are gangsters..... get over it.

User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

All those stereotypes like, English have bad teeth, French eat frogs, Germans are Nazi's, Americans are inbreeders, Italians are gangsters..... get over it.

Tell your fellow neighbors to get over the fact that not all US citizens are assholes than... How bout them apples. (Apples are good for your teeth BTW.)  Big grin






User currently offlineGunships From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

I am an American. I am proud of my country. I will support my elected leaders.


No amount of bashing will ever take that away from me. It's who I am.



User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1071 times:

I'm getting fed up with this. It seems to me fairly straightforward. You have a few people for whom the US can never do any right, and will constantly attack on any pretext. You have rather more people who will ask a genuine question and make a genuine criticism. Unfortunately, they often get labelled along with those who just sling abuse.

Equally, you have a few Americans who will never accept that the US has done any wrong and will simply throw abuse back. You also have those who make a reasonable point defending the US and are simply told to crawl away and die. I note that both sides make heavy use of profanity which just suggests to me there isn't much of an argument to make.

You have rather more Americans who will read through a thread which becomes steadily more vindictive and will understandably become upset by it. Then you have others who read through the responses and become angered by American “arrogance”.

Everyone, please; there are only a very few people on here for whom the US stands for everything that is wrong with the world, and there are also only a few people who will never question anything the US has ever done. Most of us are in the middle but unfortunately these minorities shout very loud and the whole thing degenerates from there.

As a Brit, I find it distressing to see some of the anti-American posts on here, but I also note that some reasonable points are never considered with a very few quick to jump on anything remotely critical. Generally (and again it is very few people) both sides are as bad as each other.

I suspect that the vast majority of us read through half of the threads on this type of subject and then ignore the rest as the arch enemies go through their routine once again. What's the point? They say the same things time and again.

It is also noticeable that many of the threads are of extremely low quality, with (yet again) that minority showing a striking lack of knowledge of history and politics.

I guess what I'm trying to say is to ignore the inflammatory posts. Yes, there are a few people who think America is perfect, and the rest of the world should be grateful to the US for allowing us to live; yes, there are a few people who think that the US are bunch of culture-free idiots who go around the world shooting first and asking questions later. These people are FEW in number.

Why let them wind you up?

I have enormous respect for the US, it has a next to impossible job as the world’s policeman, and as such is viewed as the enemy by some people everywhere there is intervention. If you are prepared to intervene, you will make mistakes. I’m afraid it was always thus.

On a forum like this, you will always find that there are some idiots. Ignore them, you cannot win the argument against them by reasoning with them.

UAL747, do not let the extremists win by imagining that their viewpoints are the norm, you will do the rest of us a disservice. Equally, when someone genuinely questions the actions of your country, examine it. If you disagree, say so and say why. If you see that question being treated as an attack on US sovereignty, ask yourself about the person who replies like that.

You are not perfect, and neither are we. Unfortunately, there are a very few who think that they are.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
25 Scotty : I am a positive freak when it comes to the US and Americans but surely one of the things America stands for is the right to disagree with what America
26 Eal401 : Banging my head against a brick wall here, but never mind. I have accepted that the way I dealt with my thread was all wrong. I have now said time aft
27 IMissPiedmont : UAL747, I read that post. A valid point was made. We in the US tend to ignore terrorism and genocide anywhere in the world that doesn't affect our eco
28 Eal401 : Thank you IMissPiedmont. That was the EXACT point I originally intended. You are a star!
29 Ual747 : I realise the points that are trying to be made, and I take time to consider them, believe me, I don't just jump to conclusions. I don't mind people h
30 Post contains images Leftseat86 : Dan makes no sense! ROFLMAO! What was that all about???? N E way, this is a good post, I agree... Dammit, I sailed past 1000 posts without sayin a wor
31 Carmy : Well I believe that every American has every reason to be proud of the country they live in, just like myself as a Singaporean am awfully proud of my
32 Post contains images EGFF :
33 Eal401 : I appreciate you being upset by this. You say it's all in how things are worded, well, if you really had read all of these threads, you'd have realise
34 LHMark : Through all the cross-cultural bashing (remember the US-Australia scrums of about a year ago?) I'd wager that people from many of the world's countrie
35 Post contains images KROC : You know, I can think of worse things than being called American. This goes to whoever was upset that even with there Scottish accent they were called
36 Post contains images LHMark : Hmm... That shaft has been popping up a lot around here lately, KROC. New toy?
37 KROC : It's a great tool for well, letting people know how there posts/threads rate, lol. It's all in fun. Damn, this reminds me, I need to get to GRIA and g
38 YHU : There may be worst things to being called an American. But it get's a bit much. I'm always either American, English or Irish. Never what I am. same fo
39 Post contains images KROC :
40 YHU : so sorry to bore you, I too would be bored if I spent most of my life on this board.
41 KROC : I'm tired of being called an A$$hole. That gets a bit much! I'm not an A$$hole, I'm just a dick, but I don't go around crying about it.
42 KROC : Dont' hate YHU, its not becoming. By the way, is that an Australian accent you have?
43 Post contains images RealHigh : I'm tired of being called an A$$hole. That gets a bit much! I'm not an A$$hole, I'm just a dick, but I don't go around crying about it. LOL! !
44 YHU : At what point did I call you an A$$hole? Heck, at what point did I even contridict your point of view. I have agreed with you that most of these anti-
45 YHU : " By the way, is that an Australian accent you have? " Thanks, it's nice to have something new once in a while. It's rare I get called an Australian (
46 LHMark : I got called Dutch once. A guy in a shop in Stuttgart told me "Du sprichst Deutsch wie ein Nederlander." I thought I sounded Bavarian.
47 KROC : YHU, the A$$hole thing was a joke. I was cracking on myself. I never said you called me anything. Keep up.
48 Post contains images Boeing757fan : Someone called me a wannabe before. It hurted my feelings... Someone also told me I was a black man trapped in a white mans body... Geez, does it get
49 KROC : Boeing757Fan. Sounds like the last couple of years of High School for me, and a couple of post years as well! But I never cried about it.
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