Dragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3989 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1976 times:
Well technically it was not our cat. You see there is this stray female cat who had 2 litter of kittens and our neighbor and I have been taking care of them. We got them spayed and neutered (the ones that are old enough), we bought them 3 small dog houses so they can keep dry and warm, and we feed them every day.
The cat who was hit was named Olive (we named then all) and was a sweet little cat. She let us pick her up, hold her, and pet her (all of them lets us do that).
We would let them in one room of the house for a short period of time when our cars were in a different part of the house. We also thought about bringing them inside our houses permanently but they already have 4 cats and we have 2 of our own.
So even though Olive was a stray she was a good little cat and will be missed.
Siren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 323 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1964 times:
Oh my god. I am sorry to hear that. I absolutely love cats (I have two) and if one of mine were to die or have an accident, I'd be absolutely crushed.
From the way she sounds, I doubt she was a 'stray' in the sense of the word, but rather a pet that maybe got lost. True feral kitties very rarely cuddle up with people, and are friendly.
I hope Olive rests well. You didn't clarify though - was Olive the mother of the kittens, or one of the kittens? How old are the kittens now? Are there any no-kill shelters that will take them and place them with families around?
IFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1950 times:
I'm so sorry to hear this. My wife and I have 4 (including the dead cat that came back to life), and my wife also volunteers at a rehoming and adoption center at the weekends. We have no children - our cats are our kids.
It's horrible when something like this happens. Unfortunately, cats don't have that same 'fight or flight' mechanism we do, and so when faced with a scary situation, they often just freeze. That's perhaps what happened when Olive saw the car approaching.
As Siren says, true feral felines are as friendly to humans. It sounds like perhaps she was once someone's pet and either decided to leave one day (unlikely, as cats are very territorial) or just got lost. Either way, perhaps you could check to see if there is a 'Cats In Need' center near your home? They are much better than state animal control centers, as they don't euthanize if the cats aren't adopted. Or better yet, take them as your own pets! Your cats would soon get used to it, and you get the privilege of being 'allowed' to look after some more felines.
Whatever happens, you've done a good thing by helping them out this far. I hope Olive rests in peace.
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1946 times:
Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 2): We thought of that but we figured they wouldn't be adopted because they are strays.
Please do try to take them to a shelter. Most shelters do take strays and do try to get them adopted if their temperment allows. If you have been handling these kittens since their birth, and they play with you, they are probably socialized enough to be adoptable. Find a shelter that will give you the option of taking the kittens back if they are deemed unadoptable.
Also, most kittens can be safely altered at as young as six weeks of age by a veterinarian who practices pediatric spay/neuter. As long as they are six weeks old and two pounds' weight, they are generally strong and healthy enough to survive the surgery with no ill effects.
Best wishes, and sorry for your loss.
Dragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1926 times:
I have thought about bringing the 3 kittens from the second litter in and adopting them permanently. They are probably around 3 months old, is that to young to take them away from the mom (we call the mom cat mamma) cat? Wouldn't it be kind of mean to mamma if we take her kittens in the house and she has to stay outside and look at them from outside? Everytime time she is at the back of our house she will look in the glass door we have.
We also think mamma is semi feral, she will let us pet her but only when she wants to be petted and only on her back. But she will allow us to pet and hold her kittens without her hissing at us.
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1912 times:
Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 5): They are probably around 3 months old, is that to young to take them away from the mom (we call the mom cat mamma) cat?
After eight weeks, mom cat is usually quite happy to swipe them away herself. They no longer need mom's milk after that age, and those little teeth start to hurt! If they are still sucking on her at 3 months, she's one very patient mom. She probably has few maternal instincts left at this point, other than enjoying their companionship.
Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 5): Wouldn't it be kind of mean to mamma if we take her kittens in the house and she has to stay outside and look at them from outside?
Not necessarily. See below.
Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 5): Everytime time she is at the back of our house she will look in the glass door we have.
She's probably enjoying the television... er... show. We humans have to be careful about projecting our thoughts and emotions on to animals. On the other hand, see below.
Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 5): We also think mamma is semi feral, she will let us pet her but only when she wants to be petted and only on her back. But she will allow us to pet and hold her kittens without her hissing at us.
Mom trusts you with the kittens, has learned you won't do any harm. However, she has her limits. You might invite her into the house with them (let her choose whether she comes in the door, since she's been hanging around for a while.) It probably won't "hurt her feelings" to separate the kittens from her at 3 months' age. However, taking the kittens inside might give her reason to follow, if she enjoys their friendship. But you will have to allow her to find her comfort zone. She may be just as happy to live outside like she always has; some of her kittens may prefer being outside, and some may want to stay inside.
Of course, I am always in favor of placinging healthy, friendly strays into homes. Some will need flea baths and treatment for minor illnesses in addition to the usual shots and regular veterinary care. Still, having them inside a home is safer than allowing them to run free where they can encounter predators (dogs, other cats, racoons, skunks and other territorial critters.) Being stray predisposes them to diseases transmitted cat-to-cat and from other species. Compare this: the average life span of a stray cat in the U.S. is about three years for a male, four or five for a female; a house cat can live sixteen years in good health.
It's up to you. I applaud you for doing what you have, so far, by setting up feral cat shelters in your back yard, getting them altered, and feeding. Don't get me wrong about this but I'm going to share a tidbit with you: a well-fed stray female cat is a pregnant female cat. If you can make sure there is enough food for health but not so much that there's excess, you will help keep from having more kittens!