Dtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1389 times:
Dr. Jack Kevokrian — embraced as a compassionate crusader and reviled as a murderous crank — is going free.
A two-member panel of the Michigan Parole Board voted today to parole to Dr. Jack Kevorkian, the assisted suicide maverick who admitted to helping at least 130 chronically or terminally ill people die.
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1378 times:
Of course, I wonder what part of his health played into this, perhaps Michigan no longer wanted to pick up the medical bills on his behalf..all in all in the proper decision why keep a 78 year old person in poor health in prison?
Siren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 301 posts, RR: 12 Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1342 times:
It was a travesty that it was in prison in the first place. Finally, justice is served in his release... but it doesn't undo the subversion of justice that took place to land that kind gentleman in prison in the first place. He was unjustly sentenced, and at least he will have some semblance of freedom in his retirement.
CO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1328 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 2): He should have never been in prison in the first place.
Sylvcath From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 39 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1323 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 2): He should have never been in prison in the first place.
He took an oath to do all within his power to relieve human suffering, didn't he? As far as I can tell, that's exactly what he did.
Siren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 301 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 6): I have seen this man a few times in the Jackson Prison. I did a Prison Ministry as I lived in Jackson, Michigan for 2 years.
Did you actually meet him, and have a chance to talk to him? If so, what is he like? His conversational style, etc? Did he seem to express any regret for ending up in prison, or was he proud of it?
Boeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1318 times:
He's got a lot of work to do. Look at the backlog...
Michael Jackson
Michael Moore
Tom Cruise
Rush Limbaugh
Dick Cheney
Hugo Chavez
Vladimir Putin
Kim Jong Il
Mahmoud Ahma-whatshisface-jad
Osama Bin Laden
That guy who looked at me cock-eyed
Tom Delay
Mark Foley
Ann Coulter
The Westboro Baptist Church
Al Qaeda members in general
...
the list goes on...
QXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2401 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1315 times:
Quoting Siren (Reply 7): Did you actually meet him, and have a chance to talk to him? If so, what is he like? His conversational style, etc? Did he seem to express any regret for ending up in prison, or was he proud of it?
No I actually did not get to meet him or talk with him. Just from watching him walk around and the expressions on his face, he did not seem regretful of what he did. He also seemed to not be interested at all in "religion" at all. So it is a bummer because I would have liked to have done a "Diane Soyar" interview haha to see what was going on in his mind.
CastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1301 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 2): He should have never been in prison in the first place
Quoting Siren (Reply 3): It was a travesty that it was in prison in the first place
Quoting Sylvcath (Reply 5): He took an oath to do all within his power to relieve human suffering, didn't he? As far as I can tell, that's exactly what he did
Very well and succinctly put, O me brothers (and sisters (Siren) ).
Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 9): No I actually did not get to meet him or talk with him. Just from watching him walk around and the expressions on his face, he did not seem regretful of what he did. He also seemed to not be interested at all in "religion" at all. So it is a bummer because I would have liked to have done a "Diane Soyar" interview haha to see what was going on in his mind.
Shame, really. I know you are very religious, and I respect that. I also respect the dignity of the suffering, and I would have done exactly what Dr. Jack did if in his position. Laws be damned. They are drop-dead wrong, IMO. Pun intended.
Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 10): Shame, really. I know you are very religious, and I respect that. I also respect the dignity of the suffering, and I would have done exactly what Dr. Jack did if in his position.
Oh no Castle, I did not want to make it a religious conversation. Thank you though for respecting my faith. All I would want to talk to him about is how he came into his profession and what he thinks about it now that he went to prison. Thats all. Not a salvation message haha.
To me, this trial for him was interesting. It was interesting to see how the courts would go. I think all in all I would agree with the decision. It is hard to see how I feel on what he did though. To me, it is almost like assistance to murder. But what do you say to the people that pull the tubes out of someone in a hospital or take someone off of the air machine. It is hard for me to try to figure out which way to swing on it.
ADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1279 times:
A332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1254 times:
His prison sentence was a slap in the face to all of the people whom he eased out of pain and suffering, and to those who could have used his services.
The world needs more compassionate folk like Dr. Kevorkian... terminally ill people have the right to die with dignity and free of pain and suffering.
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1232 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 2): He should have never been in prison in the first place.
Agreed.
I wonder what his parole conditions are. I'm assuming that he cannot perform anymore of what he does for people. I hate to use the 's' term, sounds so negative.
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Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 43 Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1231 times:
As cowardly as suicide is, the only thing more cowardly than committing suicide is not being able to do it yourself. If you feel the only way to "ease your pain" is to kill yourself, do it yourself. To that degree, Kevorkian is a killer. He killed people, end of story. Even though the people wanted him to do it, it's still murder. If someone asks me to kill them and I shoot them, I go to jail for murder. It's no different for Dr. Death.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1226 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 14): I wonder what his parole conditions are. I'm assuming that he cannot perform anymore of what he does for people. I hate to use the 's' term, sounds so negative.
His medical license was already stripped, so no he can't.
Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 15): As cowardly as suicide is, the only thing more cowardly than committing suicide is not being able to do it yourself. If you feel the only way to "ease your pain" is to kill yourself, do it yourself. To that degree, Kevorkian is a killer. He killed people, end of story. Even though the people wanted him to do it, it's still murder. If someone asks me to kill them and I shoot them, I go to jail for murder. It's no different for Dr. Death.
Cowardly? There is nothing cowardly about dying with a little bit of dignity left as opposed to being in severe pain the likes of which you would never wish on your worst enemy all while your new bathroom is a disgusting bed pan. Who the hell are you to call someone a coward when they already face death by terminal disease? You are no one.
As far as Jack Kevorkian goes, he saw it as part of his oath to do no harm that when his patients were harmed more by staying alive and asked him for help to die, that he would do just that. Now that is heroic.
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Miamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1215 times:
Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 15): As cowardly as suicide is, the only thing more cowardly than committing suicide is not being able to do it yourself. If you feel the only way to "ease your pain" is to kill yourself, do it yourself. To that degree, Kevorkian is a killer. He killed people, end of story. Even though the people wanted him to do it, it's still murder. If someone asks me to kill them and I shoot them, I go to jail for murder. It's no different for Dr. Death.
According to you, if you are terminally ill, suffering the ravages of pain and whatever comes along with your particular illness, you are supposed to endure it until your body gives out? Walk a mile in their shoes before you open your mouth. I hope you are never in that position, as (almost) everyone's aspiration is to die peacefully in their sleep.
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