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Kevorkian To Be Paroled In June  
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2038 times:

Dr. Jack Kevokrian — embraced as a compassionate crusader and reviled as a murderous crank — is going free.

A two-member panel of the Michigan Parole Board voted today to parole to Dr. Jack Kevorkian, the assisted suicide maverick who admitted to helping at least 130 chronically or terminally ill people die.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...icle?AID=/20061213/NEWS99/61213039

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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2027 times:

Of course, I wonder what part of his health played into this, perhaps Michigan no longer wanted to pick up the medical bills on his behalf..all in all in the proper decision why keep a 78 year old person in poor health in prison?

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

He should have never been in prison in the first place.


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User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 345 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

It was a travesty that it was in prison in the first place. Finally, justice is served in his release... but it doesn't undo the subversion of justice that took place to land that kind gentleman in prison in the first place. He was unjustly sentenced, and at least he will have some semblance of freedom in his retirement.

User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
He should have never been in prison in the first place.

Agreed.


User currently offlineSylvcath From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1972 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
He should have never been in prison in the first place.

 checkmark 
He took an oath to do all within his power to relieve human suffering, didn't he? As far as I can tell, that's exactly what he did.



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User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1970 times:

I have seen this man a few times in the Jackson Prison. I did a Prison Ministry as I lived in Jackson, Michigan for 2 years.


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User currently offlineSiren From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 345 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1968 times:

Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 6):
I have seen this man a few times in the Jackson Prison. I did a Prison Ministry as I lived in Jackson, Michigan for 2 years.

Did you actually meet him, and have a chance to talk to him? If so, what is he like? His conversational style, etc? Did he seem to express any regret for ending up in prison, or was he proud of it?


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

He's got a lot of work to do. Look at the backlog...

Michael Jackson
Michael Moore
Tom Cruise
Rush Limbaugh
Dick Cheney
Hugo Chavez
Vladimir Putin
Kim Jong Il
Mahmoud Ahma-whatshisface-jad
Osama Bin Laden
That guy who looked at me cock-eyed
Tom Delay
Mark Foley
Ann Coulter
The Westboro Baptist Church
Al Qaeda members in general
...
the list goes on...

Slacker.

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User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

Quoting Siren (Reply 7):
Did you actually meet him, and have a chance to talk to him? If so, what is he like? His conversational style, etc? Did he seem to express any regret for ending up in prison, or was he proud of it?

No I actually did not get to meet him or talk with him. Just from watching him walk around and the expressions on his face, he did not seem regretful of what he did. He also seemed to not be interested at all in "religion" at all. So it is a bummer because I would have liked to have done a "Diane Soyar" interview haha to see what was going on in his mind.



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
He should have never been in prison in the first place



Quoting Siren (Reply 3):
It was a travesty that it was in prison in the first place



Quoting Sylvcath (Reply 5):
He took an oath to do all within his power to relieve human suffering, didn't he? As far as I can tell, that's exactly what he did

Very well and succinctly put, O me brothers (and sisters (Siren) ).

Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 9):
No I actually did not get to meet him or talk with him. Just from watching him walk around and the expressions on his face, he did not seem regretful of what he did. He also seemed to not be interested at all in "religion" at all. So it is a bummer because I would have liked to have done a "Diane Soyar" interview haha to see what was going on in his mind.

Shame, really. I know you are very religious, and I respect that. I also respect the dignity of the suffering, and I would have done exactly what Dr. Jack did if in his position. Laws be damned. They are drop-dead wrong, IMO. Pun intended.

BTW, it's "Sawyer."

Jest lettin' yer know.


User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 10):
BTW, it's "Sawyer."

Oh thank you haha  Smile

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 10):
Shame, really. I know you are very religious, and I respect that. I also respect the dignity of the suffering, and I would have done exactly what Dr. Jack did if in his position.

Oh no Castle, I did not want to make it a religious conversation. Thank you though for respecting my faith. All I would want to talk to him about is how he came into his profession and what he thinks about it now that he went to prison. Thats all. Not a salvation message haha.

To me, this trial for him was interesting. It was interesting to see how the courts would go. I think all in all I would agree with the decision. It is hard to see how I feel on what he did though. To me, it is almost like assistance to murder. But what do you say to the people that pull the tubes out of someone in a hospital or take someone off of the air machine. It is hard for me to try to figure out which way to swing on it.



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User currently offlineADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 954 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

I heard he got a job as the "White House" doctor.

User currently offlineA332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1903 times:

His prison sentence was a slap in the face to all of the people whom he eased out of pain and suffering, and to those who could have used his services.

The world needs more compassionate folk like Dr. Kevorkian... terminally ill people have the right to die with dignity and free of pain and suffering.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
He should have never been in prison in the first place.

 checkmark  Agreed.

I wonder what his parole conditions are. I'm assuming that he cannot perform anymore of what he does for people. I hate to use the 's' term, sounds so negative.



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User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

As cowardly as suicide is, the only thing more cowardly than committing suicide is not being able to do it yourself. If you feel the only way to "ease your pain" is to kill yourself, do it yourself. To that degree, Kevorkian is a killer. He killed people, end of story. Even though the people wanted him to do it, it's still murder. If someone asks me to kill them and I shoot them, I go to jail for murder. It's no different for Dr. Death.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 14):
I wonder what his parole conditions are. I'm assuming that he cannot perform anymore of what he does for people. I hate to use the 's' term, sounds so negative.

His medical license was already stripped, so no he can't.

Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 15):
As cowardly as suicide is, the only thing more cowardly than committing suicide is not being able to do it yourself. If you feel the only way to "ease your pain" is to kill yourself, do it yourself. To that degree, Kevorkian is a killer. He killed people, end of story. Even though the people wanted him to do it, it's still murder. If someone asks me to kill them and I shoot them, I go to jail for murder. It's no different for Dr. Death.

Cowardly? There is nothing cowardly about dying with a little bit of dignity left as opposed to being in severe pain the likes of which you would never wish on your worst enemy all while your new bathroom is a disgusting bed pan. Who the hell are you to call someone a coward when they already face death by terminal disease? You are no one.

As far as Jack Kevorkian goes, he saw it as part of his oath to do no harm that when his patients were harmed more by staying alive and asked him for help to die, that he would do just that. Now that is heroic.



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User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1864 times:

Quoting Jcs17 (Reply 15):
As cowardly as suicide is, the only thing more cowardly than committing suicide is not being able to do it yourself. If you feel the only way to "ease your pain" is to kill yourself, do it yourself. To that degree, Kevorkian is a killer. He killed people, end of story. Even though the people wanted him to do it, it's still murder. If someone asks me to kill them and I shoot them, I go to jail for murder. It's no different for Dr. Death.

According to you, if you are terminally ill, suffering the ravages of pain and whatever comes along with your particular illness, you are supposed to endure it until your body gives out? Walk a mile in their shoes before you open your mouth. I hope you are never in that position, as (almost) everyone's aspiration is to die peacefully in their sleep.


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