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Was Mugged This Morning  
User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2631 times:

I just had the most awful experience about 20 minutes ago. Its still 07:25 as I write this in KGI. I'm visiting a few friends here...more info about this place:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalgoorlie

Anyways, I was taking a walk on the main street as it was a beautiful morning...very few people around. Ok..everything is good, then I noticed a bunch of kids hanging on the sidewalk on the other side of the street. I did not pay any attention to them, and continued my walk. After 1/2 an hour or so, I decided to head back, and just turned around, and walked back on the same path, when I saw that those kids had crossed the road. I counted 8 kids...all aged between 15-18.

I didnt bother too much and just carried on..when all of a sudden 3 of them started walking behind me, I began to get a bit bothered at this point, but continued to walk at a normal pace.

As I approached a set of traffic lights, I slowed at the pedestrian crossing...this is when trouble struck. 5 kids came in front, and 3 behind. The biggest demanded that I give them some money...and two of them threatened me with broken glass bottles. Fuck, then things just got a whole lot worse, the big kid took out a handgun (may have been a fake..but looked real enough..looked like a Kahr P9). I felt so damn helpless...no one around and surrounded by 8 goddamn kids..fuck. I gave them my wallet (had my cards, $20 cash) and my phone (Nokia 6280). I dont know why I was carrying my damn wallet this morning..I never do when I am out on a walk.

After I gave them my belongings..they just fled. I walked back..and called the cops. The cops just took a statement from me and left now...said they'll call back if they come to know anything.

C'mon someone should know those kids..after all they just didn't find that gun lying on the street. And this is a country where law abiding citizens like me aren't allowed to even carry a knife on person..let alone a gun. No wonder those idiots had a gun..I'm not surprised at all.

I have lived in JNB for 4 years..and I have never, ever been mugged before. To get mugged in a sleepy town in the morning like this....dammit....no place is safe.

Anyways..sorry for the rant.. my whole day is ruined  Angry


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User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2079 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

Quoting Springbok747 (Thread starter):
a bunch of kids hanging on the sidewalk

Don't mean to be rascist but were these kids aboriginals?

Must suck to have all that stolen from you and I hope the cops find these dickheads and get your stuff back.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2604 times:
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Quoting Springbok747 (Thread starter):
Anyways..sorry for the rant.. my whole day is ruined

Well not totally as you did not find out if the gun was real or not! It could ALWAYS be worse. Though sorry to hear about what happened.



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User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1128 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2605 times:

Sorry to hear about that,no matter what the police tell you about taking it personally,it's hard not to,never been mugged but have been robbed.

Quoting Springbok747 (Thread starter):
C'mon someone should know those kids..after all they just didn't find that gun lying on the street. And this is a country where law abiding citizens like me aren't allowed to even carry a knife on person..let alone a gun. No wonder those idiots had a gun..I'm not surprised at all.

This shows how effective gun control really is!!


User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

Sorry to hear this, mate. I've been through it, myself. If you wanna chat about it, I'm here. If not, let's say I come to KGI, and we go get your money back, with interest!

BAB yes 



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User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2582 times:

Quoting Springbok747 (Thread starter):
Don't mean to be rascist but were these kids aboriginals?

Yeah....shit why is it always them?!

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 3):
This shows how effective gun control really is!!

Exactly. When guns are controlled..only the bad guys will have them.



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User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1128 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2565 times:

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
Quoting Springbok747 (Thread starter):
Don't mean to be rascist but were these kids aboriginals?

Yeah....shit why is it always them?!

Someone here will provide an excuse.

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
Exactly. When guns are controlled..only the bad guys will have them

And the law abiding folks like you pay the price.


User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2079 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 6):
Yeah....shit why is it always them?!

Someone here will provide an excuse.

These kids really bring down Aboriginals in Australia. They are poor and Kalgoorlie is a desert town ie: will have a large Aboriginal population. It's not good, they go and commit crimes and then get bail while the government gives them the money to pay for it.

Abit of trivia, you only have to be 1/11th Aboriginal to get these benefits.


User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Wow, Im sorry to hear that, I really enjoyed my time in KGI and all over Australia. Everyone was always friendly to me. I guess these sort of things happen everywhere.

User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

Sorry to hear about that mate, hope your alright.

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 7):
These kids really bring down Aboriginals in Australia. They are poor and Kalgoorlie is a desert town ie: will have a large Aboriginal population. It's not good, they go and commit crimes and then get bail while the government gives them the money to pay for it.

Abit of trivia, you only have to be 1/11th Aboriginal to get these benefits.

I know of someone who stole a car and then when he was caught cried foul and that he was 1/8th aboriginal they let him go. It's unfortunate that we have these laws which are meant to apply to everyone, yet one section of the community seems to think they are exempt becsause of their culture. It is just like the Jews and Muslims getting upset at christmas decorations etc. The rest of us bend over backwards to make them happy yet they continue claim they are being discriminated against.

When it comes to something like a mugging, it shouldn't matter if your white, black, purple or orange, if you've broken the law you deserve to be punnished.


User currently offlineORD2pm From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2499 times:

wow, thats really cool.

But i have an idea on how you can solve this criminal case. Probably this gang will show up on the same place where you got mugged. Perhaps not today, or tomorrow, but set up surveillance over the area. Like you can hide in a car or anything.

and when you see the gang again, just call the police. Its easy as that...
it will be time consuming and boring.....but it will be worth it...i guess.

you can always pay me for going down to Australia and help you, just the trip and living expenses.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Springbok747:
Sorry to hear about this!
Having a gun pulled out on you is a scary feeling. It's happened to me 3 times.

I hope they catch these bastards!



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

You should have been packing heat.

Signed,

ANCTraitor


User currently offlineAlaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

sorry to here this mate.. when I was in NZ a month ago we were having a wake for my Grandfather who had just passed away, when some drunk maori came down my nanas drive and nocked on the guest house. My brother answered it and the guy asked him if ther was any Tui (beer) and my brother told him to bugger off.
He then went to the main house and asked my dad if ther was any tui. My dad told him to bugger off aswell.

The next morning when we got in our car we found that my dads brand new Dell precision M90 that was his work laptop that was worth over $3,000 USD because of modifications that were done, his cellular phone was also nicked as well as my brothers camera and cellular phone... as well as some tui. we told the cops, but nothing came of it... and Im sure that the guy who stole it couldn't do much since it had two locks and it was an American charger.

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
Yeah....shit why is it always them?!

I could go off on a rant about living up here in AK, USA. Yet I won't as I don't want to offend or generalize.

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 7):
These kids really bring down Aboriginals in Australia. They are poor and Kalgoorlie is a desert town ie: will have a large Aboriginal population. It's not good, they go and commit crimes and then get bail while the government gives them the money to pay for it.

sounds alot like other countries as well... not naming names or anything.

(for those who don't know, I have dual citizenship between USA and NZ)
~Cheers-
~~Kyle H.



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User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

I'd think that the cops should be able to track down the phone..either by
triangulation of the cell towers it uses..or with its GPS system...if they wanted to extend the effort...
You did call your bank to cancel the cards, right?
Sorry about the loss..sadly, this sort of thing happens everywhere...
but at least you're ok...
TPAnx



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User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 1):
Don't mean to be rascist but were these kids aboriginals?



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
Yeah....shit why is it always them?!

Why does that even come into the equation? Unless you are telling us a description so we can assist the police in catching them, thier race is totally irrellevant.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 9):
I know of someone who stole a car and then when he was caught cried foul and that he was 1/8th aboriginal they let him go.

Then that is an enforcement problem. The law needs to apply equally.

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 13):
sorry to here this mate.. when I was in NZ a month ago we were having a wake for my Grandfather who had just passed away, when some drunk maori came down my nanas drive and nocked on the guest house.

Tell me, young fellow Alaskan, why even mention the fact he was a Maori?

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 13):
I could go off on a rant about living up here in AK, USA. Yet I won't as I don't want to offend or generalize.

By saying you could go off on a rant but dont want to offend or generalize, you already have done just that.

The actions individuals take are just that, individual actions. One cannot or should they find it acceptable to make these sort of comments.


User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 15):
Tell me, young fellow Alaskan, why even mention the fact he was a Maori?



Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 15):
Quoting QFA380 (Reply 1):
Don't mean to be rascist but were these kids aboriginals?



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
Yeah....shit why is it always them?!

Why does that even come into the equation?

The point is that indigenous populations always feature highly in crime stats.

In NZ 16% of the population are Maori or Pacific island descent and they make up 85% of the prison population.

I run a few projects in youth prisons and on the rare occaisions i meet a Pakeha (white boy) "inside" I am surprised, they stand out like balls on a dog.

The reasons for this are many and varied and we need to look at the causes of indigenous crime in order to make a difference.

Why, for instance, do the indigenous people of colonised countries always form the lower socio-economic strata of the population?

I'm not even gonna attempt to answer that question here but its a big issue and requires some big-time social engineering to put it right.

BTW..... Political Correctness isn't the way to solve it, I am sure of that much!!!


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Update: Wohoo! I got my stuff back...the cops caught 4 of the 'gang' while they were trying to use my ATM card. What a bunch of idiots..dont they know they just cant use some one else's ATM card like that?! Haha.

Also, one of them had my phone..woot! Got that back also! Good work WA Police!!

Thanks for all your replies fellas!

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 4):
let's say I come to KGI, and we go get your money back, with interest!

Thanks BAB...you're welcome here anytime..next time you're in PER let me know..  biggrin 

Quoting ORD2pm (Reply 10):
you can always pay me for going down to Australia and help you, just the trip and living expenses.

No worries...I'll put up the living expenses...you just need to buy an air ticket..I'm just a poor student..lol.

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 16):
The point is that indigenous populations always feature highly in crime stats.

Exactly. The situation here is also very similar. Something like 70% of the prison population is made up of aborigines.

The point is...in small desert towns like KGI...its the Aborigines who unfortunately cause most of the trouble..especially dumb kids who dont have anything better to do..like going to school etc.



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User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 17):
Update: Wohoo! I got my stuff back...

Good to hear. I'm sure these kids would have been scared when the A.net gang consisting of BAB and ORD2pm came down and started asking questions. The A.net gang is a crazy bunch and they know it. Guns, cameras, intricate knowledge of how to get around the world and people at every major airport in the world. A force to be reckoned with.


User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 17):
Update: Wohoo! I got my stuff back...

Good work for the cops, congrats.

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 16):
Political Correctness isn't the way to solve it, I am sure of that much!!!



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 17):
Exactly. The situation here is also very similar.

Nobody was being politically incorrect in direct name calling.
I see and live first hand the struggle minorities have in a white society.
What those boys did was unacceptable, whether they be white black brown red or blue.
But what was represented was the underlying problem with assimilation in society. The presumption of one group to act in dissatisfactory ways.
When one commits this sort of act, they should first be considered criminals, thier race should not come into the equation.


User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 19):
Nobody was being politically incorrect in direct name calling.

Nah mate, it wasn't a reference to anybody's post...just a statement of general fact.

Personally I think it is important to look at the crime/race interface, it is symptomatic of some of the cracks in the societal glue that holds the world together.

The PC lobby would say ignore race and in London a black community leader called our local cops "racist" because every suspect on the street crime board was black.

The cops showed him the bank robbers list...and they were all white blokes!!!

The guy had to just get used to the fact that certain races commit certain crimes. Eg 89% of gun crime in London is Black on Black and drug related (the rest is white bank robbers).

In NZ 95% + of kidnappings and ransom demands are Asian on Asian.

In Dunstable (UK) most benefit frauds were white.....so it goes on, I'm sure if Springbok747 was mugged by white surf dudes or Croatian Hell's Angels he would have said as much.

And for the record, the only crime ever committed against me (setting fire to me) was by a white Chav  Wink


User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 5):
Yeah....shit why is it always them?!



Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 16):
The point is that indigenous populations always feature highly in crime stats.

Because that's what happens when you steal over 90% of an indigenous people's land, break up their social structure, subjugate them, and then treat them like shit because you're "white and better than them".

Yes I've been to Australia, and Yes I've seen how they're treated there. Didn't they teach you that stuff in school?

Sorry about the trouble you went through with your mugging, but while there is no excuse for the crime problem, there is an explanation. And asking "why is it always them?!" shows that you have a lack of basic understanding of your country's history.

[Edited 2006-12-15 05:25:37]

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2289 times:
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Quoting Springbok747 (Thread starter):
I have lived in JNB for 4 years..and I have never, ever been mugged before. To get mugged in a sleepy town in the morning like this....dammit....no place is safe.

I guess I don't need to point out the irony of this, people are leaving SA for Australia in droves to "escape the crime". Glad you got your stuff back.



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User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2079 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2268 times:

Quoting Bushpilot (Reply 15):
Why does that even come into the equation? Unless you are telling us a description so we can assist the police in catching them, thier race is totally irrellevant.

It does when they know they can get away with almost anything they do. Kids get murdered, wives get murdered, Aboriginals do anything they want over here and its absolutely shit and needs to stop.

Springbok747, what did the cops do to these kids?

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 9):
I know of someone who stole a car and then when he was caught cried foul and that he was 1/8th aboriginal they let him go.

I made that statement because of past experience over some Aboriginals that stole my mums car. The cops sent them to court they were back on the street the next day. The cops say it has to stop too.


User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 23):
Kids get murdered, wives get murdered, Aboriginals do anything they want over here and its absolutely shit and needs to stop.

Bullshit dude. I'm pretty sure if an Aboriginal murdered somebody and had enough evidence to convict him/her, then he/she would not be let out on the streets. What's with the exaggeration?

Quoting Andz (Reply 22):
I guess I don't need to point out the irony of this, people are leaving SA for Australia in droves to "escape the crime". Glad you got your stuff back.

Yeah, and I'm sure you South African's aren't exactly puzzled as to why there is all that crime out there.


25 QFA380 : Unfortunately it does happen in remote communities, these people take drugs or drink and go home and bash their families, sometimes killing them. If
26 Bill142 : Exactly. But one section of society seems to think they are being discriminated against.
27 Andz : Okay I'll bite, let's hear your theory.
28 FSPilot747 : You see there was this thing called apartheid.... ....and then the Dutch bitched about not knowing "where all this crime" came from. These are not ex
29 Jcs17 : FSPilot, here's a friendly tip, don't talk about things you know nothing about. First of all, there are an awful lot of white people of British lineag
30 FSPilot747 : I was referring to slavery, not south african apartheid. Here is my quote again: "You screw with a social structure, make them your slaves for hundre
31 Jcs17 : Awww... isn't that cute. FSPilot making fun of my education and sense of history when he can't even get simple facts correct. I'd also be interested
32 FSPilot747 : I was talking about slaves brought to the U.S. to explain the ramifications of slavery and racism and how it has continued in the form of social prob
33 FSPilot747 : Apartheid will never be in the past, yuppie. The day your skin turns black and you experience discrimination, you'll understand the ignorance of what
34 Springbok747 : Um..I'm not white..I'm Indian. So I don't see your point here. Race does have a lot of relevance here..especially considering the fact that our popul
35 Post contains images SA006 : And the other 70% is the Wallabie rugby team True , but its not as bad as you think. I'd just like to know , have you ever been "out here" before and
36 Post contains images FXramper : BAB will bring the 7mm and I'll be toting my Desert Eagle .50. I'll use some Advantage miles and we make journey to SYD immediately via LAX. We'll st
37 Post contains images Jafa39 : You made my day!!!! I was getting a bit rarked up by FSPilot747's attitude but its all good now
38 Andz : You would fit right in here. Blaming apartheid for the crime in this country is a common but laughable ploy. How does the fact that you couldn't ride
39 Post contains images Gkirk :
40 Post contains images ANCFlyer : The message is at least accurate.
41 Bill142 : How is it an excuse? It's people like you that are the cause of the problem. Using the events of the past to create two societies. It's just ludacrio
42 Post contains images SA006 :
43 Melpax : Unfortantely I have to agree with you there. I went on a school tour to Central Australia back in 1991 & we stopped the night in Coober Pedy. We were
44 QANTASforever : Only if we let them. How's this for an idea: don't generalise. Don't "not go on a rant" about aborigines, don't make wide assumptions about people. I
45 FSPilot747 : Do you not read my posts, or just the parts you don't like? I tried to make it as clear as possible, I even italicized it in a previous post, that I
46 Andz : Well you started with the sentence: "You see there was this thing called apartheid..." No one is denying that. But using it as an excuse for the crim
47 Post contains images Frequentflyer : OK that's cool Mate, glad you are OK and got back your stuff ; you've earned the right for a strong Cocktail tonight! Cheers All
48 Vikkyvik : Read his post, dude: There's a difference between using the past to make excuses and shirk responsibility, and using the past to help explain the pre
49 Melpax : True. If I was able to claim this, I would get a promotion in my government job very easily with easier access to benefits like having further study
50 FSPilot747 : Oh man, this is hilarious. I f*cking said it 3 times, I'm not making excuses for them, I'm giving you an explanation. Instead of talking shit, why do
51 Andz : My wife has worked for SAA for 28 years, I have known what goes on in SAA longer than you have been alive. I wasn't questioning that. What I was ques
52 FSPilot747 : I specifically thought you were questioning the idea that black pilots were not allowed to be pilots for SAA. As per the not allowing SAA flights into
53 Andz : Okay I see there is a misunderstanding here. SAA were banned from flying to the USA at the time when American companies were disinvesting due to the a
54 Post contains images Jafa39 : I have a Royal Command never to agree with you But I see your point, however, there are racial links to certain types of crime (see my post) and it i
55 Post contains links Springbok747 : QFF..sorry I made a mess of the statistics. I got the initial figure of 70% from Wikipedia, obviously its not true. More reliable figures were obtaine
56 Speedbird747BA : Australian Organized crime at its worst -- kids mugging an a.netter on holiday! Cheers, Kyle
57 QANTASforever : I have no doubt certain people will be challenged by the idea, but I think in the interests of social cohesion it is imperative that we rise above st
58 Post contains images Jafa39 : Trouble is, by denying what the general populace see with their own eyes and experience at a street level you kind of insult their lived experience a
59 Post contains images Leezyjet : A bit like the whites did to the American Indians in the USofA then ?. But we don't hear of any stories of Indians going round mugging/killing/raping
60 QANTASforever : ...and it would be the end of civilisation as we know it, eh Sir Humphrey? Look, I'm talking about person to person interaction. I really hope I'm no
61 Post contains images Jafa39 : That is true and I'm sure if the Aborigines promised to vote for a Republic you would be lobbying like hell on their behalf I too take people on a pe
62 QANTASforever : I know you're joking, but I'm not laughing. I've made my point in my previous posts. I have nothing more to add. QFF
63 Post contains images Jafa39 : Lighten up mate, its only the internet, one day we'll meet and have a chat in person, I dare say it will be a fun time for all
64 QANTASforever : I just object to your "joke" that suggests I'm only willing to stand up for a just cause (i.e. indigenous issues) if it complements my republican ide
65 Post contains links ME AVN FAN : - You may find a number of REASONS for that sort of crime and the apparently relatively high number of "always them", AND any of the possible reasons
66 Euclid : You live in a country that did exactly the same thing to its native population. Bullshit! Most of the criminals that are out there hijacking cars and
67 FSPilot747 : I don't know. It may have something to do with the fact that a significant plurality of them were killed off, died of European diseases, as well as s
68 Andz : Uh huh. Where in that article does it say:
69 Post contains images Jafa39 : Oh come off it QFF! I have endured your "jokes" about the Royal Family and my association with them for ages. I do give you due credit but a joke is
70 Euclid : Yes, I did. I know you are using the apartheid reference as an example and not as an excuse blah blah blah, but I'm simply pointing out to you that t
71 FSPilot747 : Think about it. If that doesn't help, take a course on sociology.
72 QANTASFOREVER : I don't think you can substantiate likening the plight of the royal family and its supporters with indigenous Australia and its supporters. I take th
73 Post contains images Jafa39 : As if........... So who yanked your chain? not like you to be sooo uptight, time was when QFF could be relied upon to be wickedly winding people up w
74 Lamedianaranja : Any chance of sending your police down here? Being WA police it should be possible, right? No joking, my mom (80) was pick-pocketed last Thursday righ
75 AerospaceFan : I hope that you recover well and quickly from this mugging, which sounds quite traumatic. There will be criminals everywhere one goes, unfortunately,
76 QANTASforever : Get real Andy. The comments I've made that criticised the royal family and that certain members choose to adopt as a personal insult are far removed
77 Post contains images Jafa39 : My dear QFF..I am NOT a Monarchist and I wasn't bringing your "credibility" into dispute....one word....J-O-K-E.......it was a freakin' joke!!!!! I d
78 QANTASforever : I'm not convinced of that. You condone the continuation of the authority of the monarchy. You're complicit in my eyes. You're British, so you have th
79 Post contains links ME AVN FAN : - - http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/democrac/56.htm (b) It is the sense of the Congress that United States employers operating in South Afr
80 Euclid : The classic response of someone that does not have an answer. I asked you for an explanation. Please give it to me. Do not bullshit me with another Z
81 Jafa39 : Neither do i (sighs) I wish eh? I fundraise $500,000 NZ a year and on a volunteer basis raised $73,000 in 2 months for my local youthclub.....Tap a f
82 QANTASforever : That's a bit silly of them, really. Although I must say, the indigenous people of Australia generally have a lot more in common with the indigenous p
83 F9Animal : Maybe this was a good thing... See next reply... No wallet, creates possible anger and frustration to the person holding the gun. They may opt to pul
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