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John Edwards Says He's A Go In 2008  
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Well, he didn't get elected VPotUS, he didn't get re-elected in North Carolina, and compared to the two apparent Democrat front runners, Sen. Clinton and Sen Obama he's a 'nobody'.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/...edwards.forpresident.ap/index.html

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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter):
he didn't get re-elected in North Carolina,

He didn't run for re-election in North Carolina. As for being a nobody, I would disgree, this guy can talk, hell he could probably sell you an icemaker in Alaska. He also relates well to the common working stiffs, he from the south, has some big money sources behind him, he's not Hillary, he has the personal stories wife having cancer, losing a child that plays well so yes, I think he has a shot to get the nomination. I still believe if the 2004 ticket was Edwards-Kerry, we would be calling him President Edwards now.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

Personally I beleive he stands a shot as well. He "seems" personable. Pretty much what AirCop said. I wish we had a Pres. Edwards now.


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20552 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter):
Well, he didn't get elected VPotUS

Just barely.  Wink

Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter):
he didn't get re-elected in North Carolina,

Moot point. He didn't run for re-election. He decided to pursue the presidency/vice-presidency in '04 instead of running for a second term as senator.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter):
compared to the two apparent Democrat front runners, Sen. Clinton and Sen Obama he's a 'nobody'.

"Edwards was a top fundraiser among Democrats in 2004", according to the CNN article.

He's got some name recognition, can raise the big bucks, and should throw his hat into the ring, now that Bayh's decided not to run.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):

 scratchchin 

Didn't run for re-election because poll numbers told him not to . . . he wasn't well liked, in North or South Carolina. He spoke with forked tongue according to the folk I know there . . .

Well, we'll have to see won't we. Yeah, he's got the sob stories all lined up - wife, child . . . don't get me wrong, I feel for him on those two issues and wouldn't ever make light of it . . . I just hope the 'common working folk' you profess he relates to can see past those two personal crisis and get a look at the whole picture.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2):
He "seems" personable.

A lot of people 'seem' personable . . . but to be honest, I don't care if he's an asshole, as long he gets the job done . . . .


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1971 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter):
Well, he didn't get elected VPotUS

Well since Jeb could not rig it two times in a row Ohio stepped up to the plate.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
A lot of people 'seem' personable . . .

Hence my " " marks Pep  Wink



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 5):
Well since Jeb could not rig it two times in a row Ohio stepped up to the plate.

 sarcastic 

Proof? Source?


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1965 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):
Proof? Source?

Hanging Chads, need I say more.



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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1956 times:

Kerry is not president today because of his VP choice. Edwards brought nothing to the ticket (can anyone name a single state that Edwards delivered to the democrats that they wouldn't have won without him?). But more than that, he basically guaranteed that the Dems lost in Florida given that there was a very publicized state constitutional amendment on the ballot targeting trial lawyers in Nov 04.

Had Kerry picked Bob Graham, he'd be sitting in the oval office tonight.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1951 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
Didn't run for re-election because poll numbers told him not to . . . he wasn't well liked, in North or South Carolina. He spoke with forked tongue according to the folk I know there . . .

 Yeah sure  Yeah sure  Yeah sure  Yeah sure

Proof? Source?



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20552 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 4):
Didn't run for re-election because poll numbers told him not to . . . he wasn't well liked, in North or South Carolina.

Interesting that he won the presidential primary in South Carolina, after finishing second in Iowa, and fourth in New Hampshire.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 8):
Hanging Chads, need I say more.

Yeah, you can provide proof that Hanging Chads were Rigged, to substantiate your allegation that Governor Bush rigged the election. Otherwise it's just a lot of  redflag  . . .

Quoting Pope (Reply 9):
Kerry is not president today because of his VP choice.

 rotfl 

While I don't dispute your points, I assure you there are myriad other reason that Sen Kerry isn't occupying the big chair. John Edwards is a small potato amongst that crop.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1946 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Yeah, you can provide proof that Hanging Chads were Rigged, to substantiate your allegation that Governor Bush rigged the election. Otherwise it's just a lot of

Mom always said, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then maybe it is a DUCK!"

Also that is in the past and Mom also said, "Why beat a dead horse!"



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User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

yawn.

 Yeah sure  Yeah sure



User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20552 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

Quoting TedTAce (Reply 14):
yawn.

Teddles must be tired from all the action he got last night.  mischievous 



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1937 times:
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Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 15):
Teddles must be tired from all the action he got last night.

What did the left hand join the right! Tag teaming.



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User currently offlineItsonlyme From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Thing is, Edwards is popular with the base and Hillary really isnt. The base candidate was gonna be either Edwards or Feingold, and since Feingold dropped out Edwards was their guy. I still dont think either he or Clinton is electable nationwide, and with Warner and Bayh out, Richardson is perhaps the best candidate, although there are rumours about baggage relating to his time as Energy Sec. He has a pretty darn good resume otherwise. Hoping Obama may be able to prove his lack of expierence isnt that much of an issue, he might be 'unique' enough to get away with it, I dont know, but i think few doubt his talent and intellect, the guy seems to embody something people are looking for in politics today. Brian Schweitzer of Montana is perhaps another one to look out for, although he keeps saying people who talk about him for 08 are 'nutty'!

User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 15):
Teddles must be tired from all the action he got last night.

 rotfl  Teddles...

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 16):
What did the left hand join the right! Tag teaming.




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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1897 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
I assure you there are myriad other reason that Sen Kerry isn't occupying the big chair.

The only reason that matters is the electoral college. It's an undisputable fact that had Kerry won Florida, he'd be president. So laugh all you want but the facts speak for themselves. Had Kerry chosen a VP candidate that could deliver FL (or any other state) he'd be in the White House tonight. Instead he chose Edwards and is stuck at home with Teresa.


User currently offlineDrewfly From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 303 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter):
Well, he didn't get elected VPotUS, he didn't get re-elected in North Carolina, and compared to the two apparent Democrat front runners, Sen. Clinton and Sen Obama he's a 'nobody'.

Actually, Sen. Edwards is absolutely not a 'nobody.' He is currently leading in Iowa for the Dem primary, and in a recent MSNBC poll is the only Dem leading McCain. Outside of the beltway bubble, Edwards is one of the most popular Democrats.

Quote:
In some head-to-head match ups, McCain leads Clinton by four points (47 to 43 percent) and Obama by five points (43 percent to 38 percent). But — in an interesting twist — the Arizona senator trails Edwards by two points (43 percent to 41 percent)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16189893/
(scroll towards the bottom)



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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

It occurs to me that John Edwards, the former Senator, should go on a ticket with John Edward, the afterlife channeler. Together, they would express the wants and needs of both the living and the dead. Who, in that case, could ask for more?

 

[Edited 2006-12-17 12:40:12]

User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

Well, he's not Hillary, and that's something. If it were up to me alone, I'd choose Hillary, but I don't think she's electable. Obama's too inexperienced. So anyone else who'd like to step up to the plate, that's great with me.


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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

MSNBC, on the Tucker Carlson show (on right now) has just shown John Edwards walking briskly with his two little children, one holding each hand. He's grinning from ear to ear.

Yup.

In the media's eyes, I think that we have our new John ("Camelot") Kennedy.

To top it all of, former Sen. Edwards is a New Age "sensitive" man, dealing with the illness of his wife. At the same time, his wife is sort of the "anti-Hillary" -- the anti-dragon lady, as it were, of politics. She's almost Republican in her support of her man.

Edwards will be interesting to watch.  

[Edited 2006-12-18 22:12:15]

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 9):
Kerry is not president today because of his VP choice.

Wrong. Rarely, if ever, does the VP choice sway the election one way or another. It's simply the #2 job, and voters don't think like that until a President falls over dead.

Kerry lost because he overdosed on Vietnam durning the campaign, and because of his "I voted for it before I voted against it" fiasco. That's why he lost. He also lost because much of the nation was still spooked over 9/11 and terrorism.


25 Post contains images IFEMaster : So did you see him trip all over his own words during the '04 elections? Hint: When something is scripted, anyone can talk.
26 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Wouldn't it be something if Edwards chose Kerry for his VP?
27 Post contains images Falcon84 : Maybe he'll choose him, then drop him and say "I chose him before I didn't choose him."
28 Post contains images AerospaceFan : That would be the ultimate! I seriously thought that Edwards was a better choice for the Democrats than Kerry was the last time 'round, and I said so
29 Pope : Are you saying that Kerry would not have won Florida if Bob Graham was his VP nominee? So rarely doesn't matter at all. I was talking about one parti
30 Falcon84 : Maybe, maybe not. There's no way to tell now, is there? Bush still had much strength in Florida, with his bro' as the Governor.
31 AeroWesty : It's not his fortune, it's his wife's. If anything, Teresa gives off the vibes that she'd rather not be First Lady. She's quite happy looking after t
32 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Okay, you're right. But, yanno, six on one hand, half-dozen on the other.
33 AeroWesty : No, I don't yanno. JFK was wealthy in his own right, from the family's rum-running operation during Prohibition. Didn't seem to hurt him.
34 Post contains images AerospaceFan : What I mean, though, is that the bad vibes screw up the chances for Kerry. That's basically the bottom line. If Kerry had his own money, things could
35 Itsonlyme : Looking back to 2004, wasnt one of the reasons Kerry lost the huge amount of focus his campaign put on flipping Ohio or Florida? There wasnt really a
36 Yellowstone : Romney's problem is that he is trying too hard to change his image. As the Republican governor of one of the bluest states in the nation, he did his
37 Pope : You don't know much about Florida politics do you? Bob Graham is loved by Floridians across both aisles. If he ran this past November, Charlie Crist
38 Dvk : While I seldom agree with you, I do agree about this. I said in 2004 that Kerry needed to try to persuade Bob Graham to be his running mate, because
39 GuitrThree : John Edwards? Really? John Edwards? Mr. 5 Minute Hair job man? Seriously. This guy got his clocked cleaned by Cheney in the debates. This guy already
40 ME AVN FAN : - True, to my astonishment he did not "carry" a single southern state. General Clarke might have had more success with his "military appeal" and a fa
41 Dvk : No he didn't. Cheney lied and claimed he'd never met Edwards before the debate, deliberately implying that Edwards was seldom present on the Senate f
42 ME AVN FAN : I saw a part of that debate and had the impression that Edwards is well up in debates, is knowledgable and is a convincing person. The elections-resu
43 Post contains images AerospaceFan : You mean colorless?
44 ME AVN FAN : - Colourless, without sufficient individuality and personality, something like that. In spite of being intelligent and everything.
45 CasInterest : Edwards is too far to the left to pull in serious vote consideration. He will have to work hard to win the Democratic nomination. If he does somehow g
46 GuitrThree : Well, I guess that could be an opinion thing... however, one point doesn't "win" the entire debate. Edwards showed his lack of National Security know
47 ME AVN FAN : all I heard about him and from him (not as much of course as you inside the USA) gave me the impression of a left-of-centre politician with rather mi
48 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Not that the former VP is "barely left of center", but what if Edwards picked Al Gore as his running mate?
49 GuitrThree : Besides the fact that Al Gore will NEVER play second fiddle again, he couldn't win his home state either in 2000, which cost him the election, and wo
50 AerospaceFan : I think it would be entertaining to have Albert Gore, Jr., on the ticket again. He's rather an oddball, these days.
51 Post contains images MiCorazonAzul : A John Edwards/Hillary Clinton ballot would be a winner..... ................now an Oprah Winfrey/Hillary Clinton ballot would be F-A-B-U-L-O-U-S!
52 STLGph : This was supposed to be announced tomorrow but the website got screwed up and the announcement came early. And I get to do a meet 'n greet with him to
53 ABQ747 : Bill Richardson? That guy can't even run the state of New Mexico. There is no way he can run an entire nation. For the longest time, he would not tak
54 Post contains images BHMBAGLOCK : Since only Democrats vote in the primaries, SC is not such a big deal really. He won the majority of a minority in a neighboring state. It's actually
55 STLGph : I just returned from the Edwards Town Hall meeting in Des Moines. What a lot of fun! Got to meet him afterwards and bullshit with him one on one which
56 J_Hallgren : And someone who can't even get his website correct should be President? NOT!
57 STLGph : yes i'm sure he was the one sitting there working on it. what a dumb comment.
58 AerospaceFan : One issue, I think, that needs to be addressed is the question of substance. How does Gov. Romney's record compare with those of previous Presidentia
59 QXatFAT : IMO, Sen. Barak Obama stands a far better chance then Edwards. Obama has everything going for him right now. I think that Edwards stands the best chan
60 AerospaceFan : I don't know why Sen. Obama is so popular. I do not believe he should benefit from the fact that he is black, any more than he, or anyone else, shoul
61 AeroWesty : Obama has charisma, his popularity has nothing to do with being black. He plays to the audience well, but may get tripped up from his revelations of
62 AerospaceFan : I don't see the charisma at all. For that matter, I don't think that former Gov. Romney has much charisma, either; all he has is a somewhat acceptabl
63 J_Hallgren : Not dumb...just showing that he can't even keep track of a small organization, so how would he be capable of running a much bigger one?
64 Post contains links AeroWesty : Google is your friend. A simple search for "obama charisma" revealed numerous articles, this being just one: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...r
65 AerospaceFan : But this is also former Sen. Edwards' bag. I don't get it. Okay. Now I get it. They say that money is the mother's milk of politics. But the charisma
66 Post contains images QXatFAT : I am not saying because he is black that he deserves to be President. I am saying "minorities" (some are becoming majorities) in certain states will
67 Post contains images AerospaceFan : No; actually, I said exactly the opposite -- that no one should be disadvantaged because they are black, and that by the same token, no one should be
68 Post contains images QXatFAT : Good. Thank you for clareifying So what is the point of John Edwards running for President? You have Kerry, Obama, Clinton all the big runners for th
69 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Happy to oblige! My thoughts on this aren't set in stone. As I've always said, I liked former Sen. Edward's style for what it was -- he had a great p
70 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : He couldn't even carry his home state for Kerry, yet alone any other state in the South. 6 years later and we're still hearing about it. And no matte
71 STLGph : have you ever been on tour?
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