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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

Wie gehts deutsche leute?

So I have a grammar question: "double possession" construction in German.

The example I want to use: Next Years' Mac Users.... at least I think that's double possession. If it's not yell at me and help me correct it anyways.

Egal.

I think I want to say ,,des Benutzerin des Mac das nächste Jahr." I could also say something like ,,des Benutzerin der Mac in dem (or is it ,,in das"?)kommenden Jahre"

Fuck. Help?

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User currently onlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3571 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

Die Mac-Benutzer des nächsten Jahres...

User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

German grammar is a pain in the a*s, but definately not as annoying as French  Silly

User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 1):
Die Mac-Benutzer des n�chsten Jahres...

and in Genitive "der Mac-Benutzer des n�chsten Jahres"
in Accusative "die Mac-Benutzer des n�chsten Jahres"
in Dative "den Mac-Benutzern des n�chsten Jahres"


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

In French - les utilisateurs du Mac pour l'année prochaine
In German - Die Mac-benutzer des nächsten Jahres..



Please respect animals - don't eat them...
User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2219 times:

So I wasn't even close  Wink Thanks! Is this construction also typical? For example, how would I say "My brother's friend's cousin's dog died"?


Die Kusine des meines Bruders freund von ihr starbte der Hund?

Or would I want to say something like, and I know I'll butcher this, Die Kusine von einer Freundin von meinem Bruder starbte der Hund?

Is that even close? I dont think that is right. It sounds like she killed the dog (and if she did, what a bitch!).

What about Der Hund von der Kusine von einer Freundin von meinem Bruder starbte.

What about Der Hund, wer ein netter Hund war, von der Kusine von einer Freundin von meinem Bruder starbte. The dog, who was a nice dog, of my brother's friend's cousin died.

Any of these close?

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 1):
nächsten

Fucking genitive endings!


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4118 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2207 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 5):
"My brother's friend's cousin's dog died"?

Der Hund der Kusine des Freundes (or der Freundin if female friend) meines Bruders starb.

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 5):
The dog, who was a nice dog, of my brother's friend's cousin died.

Der Hund der Kusine des Freundes (or der Freundin if female friend) meines Bruders, der ein netter Hund war, starb.

In fact you can write Cousine because this is the original way (it is a French word) but in Germany now it is written Kusine to make it easier for all dumbheads.  Wink

Oh and don't worry about German grammar! A lot of people in the German speaking regions in Europe cannot even write and read German correctly.

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 2):
German grammar is a pain in the a*s, but definately not as annoying as French

Try Russian!  bigthumbsup 

Cheers,
RJ100



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2206 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 5):
Is this construction also typical? For example, how would I say "My brother's friend's cousin's dog died"?

Literally it would be "Der Hund des Cousins des Freundes meines Bruders starb" (edit: assuming male gender for cousin and friend here) - but it would be as much bad german as it's bad english in the first place...!

It's certainly a sentence in dire need of a severe re-phrasing...! 

[Edited 2006-12-18 23:05:22]

User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2193 times:

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 6):
A lot of people in the German speaking regions in Europe cannot even write and read German correctly.

Quite true, unfortunately! Sad

But I'm not sure if the percentage of people who can write their native language really well is that much higher elsewhere...!


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8706 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2183 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):
It's certainly a sentence in dire need of a severe re-phrasing...!

Such as "De Tööle von ming Brudder ihm sing Fründ ihm sing Kuseng is dod."



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2179 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 9):
Such as "De Tööle von ming Brudder ihm sing Fründ ihm sing Kuseng is dod."

Exactly like that! Brilliant!  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Could you not use "die Nachstejahrenmacbenutzer"?

User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 11):
Could you not use "die Nachstejahrenmacbenutzer"?

 rotfl 

That sounds hillarious  Silly


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2154 times:

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 12):
That sounds hillarious

Not as good as der Hottentotenpotentatentantenattentater.


User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2154 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 13):
Hottentotenpotentatentantenattentater.

HAHAHA... That doesn't even mean anything  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 14):
HAHAHA... That doesn't even mean anything

Oh yes it does, unless I got the spelling wrong!


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8706 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 14):
Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 13):
Hottentotenpotentatentantenattentater.

HAHAHA... That doesn't even mean anything

Err... Hottentotten is an ancient name for an African tribe, today it's a pejorative. Potentaten is genitive of Potentat. Tanten is plural of Tante. Attentäter already is is nominative and singular.  Wink



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 16):
Hottentotten is an ancient name for an African tribe

Alright, it's so random i didn't know what it meant, of cours ei knew the rest, but nevertheless that word still is pretty ridicolous Big grin


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

Ah German, such a crazy language. So proud to be from the one African country that speaks it...sometimes...kind of. I'm sure the Germans say I can't speak German, but I say I do!  Wink

User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5692 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

Quoting ZRHnerd (Reply 17):
but nevertheless that word still is pretty ridicolous

They use it all the time in Nambia.


User currently offlineZRHnerd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 19):
They use it all the time in Nambia.

Never been to Namibia  devil 


User currently offlinePelican From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 2531 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Over 20 Replies -who would have thought that German grammar is such an entertaining topic  Yeah sure  Wink

pelican


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2603 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 9):
De Tööle von ming Brudder ihm sing Fründ ihm sing Kuseng is dod

I'm a little bit lost here. Would you care to explain?


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2603 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 16):

Did I catch it right? Assassinations of African tribe leader's aunts?


User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2112 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 4):
les utilisateurs du Mac pour l'année prochaine

Considering the prompt, I would suggest "...pour les années à venir."



"There is an art, or rather a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
25 StrasserB : It's the dialect of native speakers in Cologne, Germany, and can be translated as (word by word): The cur of my brother him his friend him his cousin
26 ME AVN FAN : Der Hund der Cousine des Freundes meines Bruders ist gestorben - while it in Zurich would be dae Hund vo dae Cusine vom Fruend vo mim Brueder ish gsh
27 PanHAM : Stay in the area, go a little bit north between Duisburg and Dortmund and there they would say: Der Kusine von mein Bruder sein Freund ihren Hund ist
28 Post contains images Aloges : What, no "oder?" in there?
29 Dba4U : When I was younger my mom used it quiet frequently to describe how my room looked. "Neee, dat sieht hier ja aus wie bei den Hottentotten!"[Edited 200
30 WildcatYXU : It looks like my son's room...
31 Aloges : You weren't familiar with the Hempel family, were you? Especially the area below their sofa?
32 PanHAM : you can always finish a sentence with "oder aber".
33 ME AVN FAN : that would be in the second exchange : - also, er ish doch wuerklich gshtorbe, oder ? -
34 Post contains images OHLHD : I give you one that is even worse: dilect in Vienna Da Flocki von da cousine von an freind von meim bruda is hin
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