December 21, 2006
Sandy Berger Hid Stolen Terror Info In Trash
Scandalous new details of how Bill Clinton's national security advisor schemed to remove highly classified terrorism documents from the National Archives paint the picture of a desperate man who tried to bully a trash collector into helping him commit the crime.
Sandy Berger took the sensitive documents in 2003 as he prepared to testify, on behalf of the Clinton Administration, before the September 11 Commission. He stole the documents, hid them under a construction trailer and later tried to get a trash collector to retrieve them.
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7335 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 813 times:
And Joe Wilson refuses to testify in the Scooter Libby trial, which is indicative he has something hide. Joe Wilson was all over the place, on every tv show alleging cover-up and calling everyone a criminal, but he won't take the witness stand. Chump.
AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 23 hours ago) and read 799 times:
I think the day that CNN and MSNBC expose' after expose' over the Berger scandal, the way they've done over the "Plame blame game", will be the day that Anderson Cooper and Chris Matthews both come out as conservative Republicans.
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 787 times:
Where is the liberal spin to this one? Strange how none of them have come in this thread claiming vast right wing conspiracies and other blather. Unfortunately he'll get a slap on the wrist for his doings.
Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 4): will be the day that Anderson Cooper and Chris Matthews both come out as conservative Republicans
Well Anderson is going to come out as something someday but not as a conservative. (Not that there is anything wrong with that.)
"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
AerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 783 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5): Where is the liberal spin to this one? Strange how none of them have come in this thread claiming vast right wing conspiracies and other blather. Unfortunately he'll get a slap on the wrist for his doings.
Seems to me that Mr. Berger has gotten off easy; I agree.
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5): Well Anderson is going to come out as something someday but not as a conservative. (Not that there is anything wrong with that.)
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 16 hours ago) and read 767 times:
Berger should be in jail . . . .
As more and more of this comes to light, I agree with DeltaGator . . . where's the liberal spin. Seems to me, if this were, oh, hell, lets say Poindexter, Carlucci, Powell (not that Powell would do that) the uproar from that side of the aisle would rival a small tactical nuke . . .
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18806 posts, RR: 64 Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 764 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5): Where is the liberal spin to this one? Strange how none of them have come in this thread claiming vast right wing conspiracies and other blather.
Perhaps I'm just tired at the end of a long day, but it is what it is, isn't it? Why is it necessary to have any spin to it? Where are the right wing conspiracy theorists? You know, the ones who pursued the likes of Whitewater, etc. "Spin" isn't the exclusive domain of liberals.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 15 hours ago) and read 760 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 8): Where are the right wing conspiracy theorists? You know, the ones who pursued the likes of Whitewater, etc. "Spin" isn't the exclusive domain of liberals.
Excellent point.
Ditto the righties that wanted to Impeach Pres. Clinton . . . yeah, yeah, it wasn't about a blow job, it was about a lie . . . I know, I know . . .
That said: We're not talking blowjobs here, we're talking classified documents . . . with a potential to incriminate a President . . .
There is, IMO, a radical difference between a knobber and stolen classified documents. Rather like a tug boat sinking in the Hudson and the Titanic going down . . .
OU812 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 734 times:
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7): As more and more of this comes to light, I agree with DeltaGator . . . where's the liberal spin.
Where's the liberal spin?
Well, I guess the 1st round of spin from the dems referring to Berger being "Sloppy" no longer cuts it, since it is now obvious that no one could be considered "Sloppy" when putting stolen classified documents under a construction trailer.
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7): if this were, oh, hell, lets say Poindexter, Carlucci, Powell (not that Powell would do that) the uproar from that side of the aisle would rival a small tactical nuke . . .
Thursday, December 21, 2006 · Last updated 7:59 a.m. PT
Report: Berger hid classifed documents
By LARRY MARGASAK
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
He headed toward a construction area. ... Mr. Berger looked up and down the street, up into the windows of the Archives and the DOJ (Department of Justice), and did not see anyone," the interview notes said.
He then slid the documents under a construction trailer, according to the inspector general. Berger acknowledged that he later retrieved the documents from the construction area and returned with them to his office.
Later, when Berger was confronted by Archives officials about the missing documents, he lied by saying he did not take them, the report said.
"There is absolutely no way to determine if Berger swiped any of these original documents. Consequently, there is no way to ever know if the 9/11 Commission received all required materials," Davis said.
If this were a Conservative, we'd never hear the end of it!
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18806 posts, RR: 64 Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 3 hours ago) and read 722 times:
Quoting OU812 (Reply 11): If this were a Conservative, we'd never hear the end of it!
All depends upon what was being hidden. Good morning! Hello! Neither side is squwaking about this, which leads me to believe whatever it was wouldn't make anyone look good if it was released.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 708 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 12): All depends upon what was being hidden. Good morning! Hello! Neither side is squwaking about this, which leads me to believe whatever it was wouldn't make anyone look good if it was released.
So, if there's not an advantage to one side or the other . . . why bother in the first place???
Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 682 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10): There has to be a reason why he's not spending some time at Lompoc, and that neither side is making a deal out of this speaks volumes.
I'll tell you why he isn't at Lompoc. He's still earning big bucks at his DC law firm because the justice system finds a way to excuse the rich and powerful. Whether its Rep. Kennedy driving under the influence and getting off scot free or Sandy Berger STEALING documents from the National Archives, politicians and power brokers in DC are almost always given sweet deals. They get away with it because they have influence, and they wield it with vengeance - whether they are republicans or democrats.
And we let them get away with it. Witness the latest abomination - Rep. Jefferson being re-elected in Louisiana.
If you or I had walked out of the NA with classified documents stuffed in our socks, we would have at the very least lost our jobs - and likely spent some time wearing an orange jump suit.
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