Quote: Gay designer STEFANO GABBANA is against the idea of same sex couples becoming parents, because he believes children need both a mother and a father. Gabbana insists taking a child away from its mother is "cruel" and that he will never adopt, although a female friend recently agreed to become the surrogate mother of his child through artificial insemination. He says, "I am opposed to the idea of a child growing up with two gay parents. A child needs a mother and a father. "I could not imagine my childhood without my mother. I also believe that it is cruel to take a baby away from its mother."
PA110 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1950 posts, RR: 26 Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 1202 times:
Like his opinion really matters? Big deal. He doesn't want to be a gay parent? Fine. Just STFU and don't continue to fuel the stereotype that same sex couples can't be good parents. It drives me nuts that in places like Florida, gay couples can be foster parents, but aren't allowed to adopt... especially when so many unwanted children remain relegated to foster homes instead of permanent families.
MiCorazonAzul From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 10 hours ago) and read 1177 times:
Quoting PA110 (Reply 4): specially when so many unwanted children remain relegated to foster homes instead of permanent families.
yea apparently "the system" rather have these kids with no families, living miserable lives instead of them being in LOVING families just because it might be two men or two women parenting......
As for these comments from Gabbana, I say we boycott their clothing perhaps? That ought to work out really well for him.
UPSMD11 From United States of America, joined May 2003, 799 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 1119 times:
This is ridiculous. There are many gay parents who adopt the unwanted children that straight couples don't want. I am the gay father of 3 children (my own) but they also live with their mother part time.
My partner and I raise them part of the time while they are with their mom and step-dad the rest of the time. We give them just as much, if not more, good parenting as their mom and step-dad (who is a jerk anyway).
Gabbana can say this because he is who he is but it doesn't mean there's any credence to it. Rubbish, pure rubbish.
ZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1922 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 1115 times:
I fully think two gay parents could be great parents, however as good as parents can be, the kids are going to be bullied at school, at sport activities etc and etc. As kids are young they are very susceptible to this bulling and what not. Because of this i feel gay parents should not be allowed to bring up a young child. Perhaps you could have an age like 12 or so where after this it can be reviewed on a case per case basis, its hard to say, but i just feel that it is not fair for the kids. To carry this on i really feel that the gay movement has pushed to far, they got there right to marry, they should now be satisfied, for the time being.
JpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4224 posts, RR: 29 Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 8 hours ago) and read 1113 times:
Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 1):
The gay movement have put forward its agenda to far
and it is time to stop it here and now.
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter): Gabbana insists taking a child away from its mother is "cruel" and that he will never adopt
Sounds like a total moron. "Taking a child away"?!!? What about being given up? Maybe we shouldn't be listening to a stupid designer about this kind of thing.
Tsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 6 hours ago) and read 1083 times:
How is the child being taken away when most of the time mothers give them up or due to other circumstances? Homos are taking the babies away? Ridiculous
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2601 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 6 hours ago) and read 1072 times:
Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 9): Perhaps you could have an age like 12 or so where after this it can be reviewed on a case per case basis, its hard to say, but i just feel that it is not fair for the kids. To carry this on i really feel that the gay movement has pushed to far
Because having to switch parents at age 12 wouldn't hurt them a little bit more than having two fathers or two mothers? What an asinine suggestion. As for your statement on the 'gay movement' being pushed too far, why the f*ck shouldn't gay people be able to have the SAME EXACT RIGHTS as every other person in existence? It will go too far when gays ask for rights beyond what everyone else has, and that will probably never happen because of close-minded people who won't even allow such basic rights as marriage and adoption.
Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 9): they got there right to marry, they should now be satisfied, for the time being.
First off, it's 'their.' Secondly, not in the United States they didn't- along with many other countries. Satisfied for the time being? You try being gay and not having the rights to marry or to adopt a child. Then you can tell yourself to just be 'satisfied for the time being.' Grow up.
Quoting Tsaord (Reply 12): Homos are taking the babies away?
Watch it. Being called a 'homo' is offensive to some, myself included.
ZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1922 posts, RR: 7 Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 4 hours ago) and read 1031 times:
Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 13):
Because having to switch parents at age 12 wouldn't hurt them a little bit more than having two fathers or two mothers? What an asinine suggestion. As for your statement on the 'gay movement' being pushed too far, why the f*ck shouldn't gay people be able to have the SAME EXACT RIGHTS as every other person in existence? It will go too far when gays ask for rights beyond what everyone else has, and that will probably never happen because of close-minded people who won't even allow such basic rights as marriage and adoption.
I am not saying switching parents at age 12, but if someone who is 12 who now comes up for adoption, parents pass away etc... this would be an age where they are becoming old enough to be able to handle the situation a bit better and know begin to understand that the bullying the will receive is BS. I was brought up only by my mother, i was constantly nagged about it as being in an odd family not having a mother around, going through Grade 1, 2 and 3 etc it bothered me, and i was a very upset little child because of this and other stuff. Once i became older not only was i able to better fend of this, there were less kids now (because of the age) who bothered me about that and thirdly i was able to understand that it was ok to live in an "odd" family even though there are alot of families with only one parent. Everyone should have the exact same right as everyone else, unless it infringes on someone elses rights, as mentioned above i believe that this will give children a disservice but this is of course my own opinion.
Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 13): First off, it's 'their.' Secondly, not in the United States they didn't- along with many other countries. Satisfied for the time being? You try being gay and not having the rights to marry or to adopt a child. Then you can tell yourself to just be 'satisfied for the time being.' Grow up
OK i come from Canada and we have allowed marriage between a gay couple. So i speak from a Canadian perspective on that. Being told that you can not adopt a child must be devastating for sure, however like i said above I believe it would not be in the best interest for the CHILD, and as such i am going to stick to my guns. On that.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19688 posts, RR: 56 Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 4 hours ago) and read 1023 times:
Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 9): I fully think two gay parents could be great parents, however as good as parents can be, the kids are going to be bullied at school, at sport activities etc and etc. As kids are young they are very susceptible to this bulling and what not. Because of this i feel gay parents should not be allowed to bring up a young child.
Maybe you went to a utopian school or something, but in my experience, having straight parents does little, if anything, to stop bullying. All of the kids I know who got bullied have straight parents. Bullying is a fact of life, and it's going to happen.
-Mir
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ZBBYLW From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 1922 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 hours ago) and read 996 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 16): Maybe you went to a utopian school or something, but in my experience, having straight parents does little, if anything, to stop bullying. All of the kids I know who got bullied have straight parents. Bullying is a fact of life, and it's going to happen.
I am not saying it is the only reason kids can be made fun of, many thing but it is just an extra factor that could be against them.
PLANAR From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 155 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 1 hour ago) and read 984 times:
Quoting ZBBYLW (Reply 18): I am not saying it is the only reason kids can be made fun of, many thing but it is just an extra factor that could be against them.
So just to placate a possible extra factor, you make a draconian resolve that gays shouldn't be allowed to adopt?
Don't you think being the kind of parents they are matters most and probably is the only thing that should be considered?
Doona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3706 posts, RR: 14 Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 970 times:
Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 1): I could not agree more.
The gay movement have put forward its agenda to far
and it is time to stop it here and now.
The "gay movement"? Wow, Bo, wow. Yes, our agenda is a horrible thing, since we want the same rights as everybody else! What are we thinking. I'd expect more from a Swede... (you know, since we're supposed to be so modern and enlightened).
As for gay adoption, I don't believe the bullying thing. If a kid has really fat parents, the other kids make fun of him. No-one prohibits fat people from getting kids. Kids will always get bullied. One of the more important tests of parenting (IMO) is how they teach the kid to deal with being bullied, and what the parents do to get it to stop. And who better than gays to teach someone how to deal with bigotted idiots?
I don't believe that we have a need for a mother AND a father. My dad moved to the US when I was little, leaving me and my sister at home with our mother. I didn't had any real problems growing up, my teenage rebellion came in the form of stealing $20 from my mother's desk drawer. Sure, I turned out to be gay, but if someone would say that my single-parent upbringing is to blame (and thus saying my fabulousness is a negative thing), then I'd slap him silly.
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