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Sometimes I Just Hate Cops.  
User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7125 posts, RR: 9
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

Well here is a story of why sometimes I just hate cops, or speed limits in the United States. I am driving down I-95 tonight or early this mourning its around 1:30am. So there is not much traffic, I just cruise around 88mph which in my opinion is completely safe and reasonable especially compared to some of the speeds I hit when the roads are empty but the speed limit is 55mph!

Anyway while I am passing someone I see a Miami-Dade County Police officer so I slow down to the speed he is going at than I pass him very slowly maybe 1 or 2mph faster than he pulls right behind so I slow down to about 66mph and set the cruise control the cop stays behind me for about 4 miles At this point I am thinking he is going to give me a ticket once I get off the highway. Anyway a car two lanes to my left passes everyone going maybe 75mph, well the cop just pulls away from me and pulls this poor person over. This cop was just waiting to find a ticket to add to his record. This guy was not driving irresponsibly he was in the passing lane going a little bit faster than traffic, completely safe.
I just don’t get it, what is wrong about going 80mph on a straight, dry, empty highway at night? Why are speed limits so low? I understand cops in School zones and residential areas, these are places I don’t speed in but on a empty highway a cop just waiting to give a ticket just makes me mad, just seems like a waste of time for the officer while he can be protecting the streets from actual dangers not someone driving a little bit fast on a highway.

Anyone else feel this way about speed limits or cops who are just out there to give someone a ticket? A highway speed limit should atleast be 65mph.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
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User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

I never get tired of these threads. If everyone will wait just a few minutes for me to microwave some popcorn, I'd greatly appreciate it.

BAB yes 



I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2834 times:



User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2817 times:

Seriously...if I could give you a ticket for posting this thread, I would. Anyone else up for a road trip? ANC? Itsjustme? Et al?

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
This cop was just waiting to find a ticket to add to his record.

Asinine and factually baseless. You have no fecking idea what he was doing.

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
just seems like a waste of time for the officer while he can be protecting the streets from actual dangers not someone driving a little bit fast on a highway.

 Yeah sure Just another way of saying, "Shouldn't you be out catching murderers and rapists?" Interestingly, it sounds just as douchey.

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
I just cruise around 88mph which in my opinion is completely safe and reasonable

At 88 mph, your stopping distance is ~1620ft. And that's just an estimate without figuring reaction time (which is increased at night) with decent tires and dry pavement. At 55mph, ~633ft.  scratchchin 

Source: http://www.csgnetwork.com/stopdistcalc.html


User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7125 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 3):
Asinine and factually baseless. You have no fecking idea what he was doing.

A county police officer just cruising down the highway at 68mph. And than all of a sudden pulls over the first person who passes him over 72mph? What else was he doing?

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 3):
At 88 mph, your stopping distance is ~1620ft. And that's just an estimate without figuring reaction time (which is increased at night) with decent tires and dry pavement. At 55mph, ~633ft.

So you telling me the Autobahn is a unsafe highway to drive on since people cruise at 120mph on that highway.



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7196 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2807 times:
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Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 1):
I never get tired of these threads. If everyone will wait just a few minutes for me to microwave some popcorn, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Agreed.  checkmark 

You know how many law enforcement officers are a member of this site?

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User currently offlineCRJ705 From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2803 times:

88 miles per hour is considered safe at night? If it was early morning when there was sunlight, then I would most definitely agree with you. I speed, but within reason and definitely not going that fast at night. Your visibility is significantly reduced at such high speeds, and going 88 would probably be overdriving your headlights (where your light does not reach far enough ahead to spot an object in your stopping distance). Stopping distances are not linear, and grows exponentially as you go faster. Unlike the Europeans, which have a lot of experiences with speed and their vehicles come with headlights engineered for those speeds, most North American cars do not have that type of equipment. I used to drive everyone home at night, and the fastest I ever went on an abandoned road at night was about 75 miles per hour, and if a deer (or a pedestrian, like some drunk person) would have jumped into my path my car would have been toast. The speed limit was 55, and the cop did not seem like he was that unjustified to pull him over if he was going 20 miles per hour over the speed limit. Most police officers give about 5-10 miles per hour of leeway when it comes to speeding, and this person clearly exceeded that.

All that being said, I do like driving fast, and that is one of the reasons I like going to Germany so much. I drive fast with no pressure to look out for radar or hitting a pothole (Albertan roads arn't exactly smooth) when I am on the sections of the Autobahn with no speed limits. I also agree that most roads have ridiculously low speed limits, and that most modern cars are capable of exceeding those limits safely, assuming visibility is good and traffic is light. I am hoping that if provincial/state governments receive more money for infrastructure, that we would improve the quality of the roads, raise the licencing standards, and increase most of the speed limits in North America. Until then there is always Germany...

Regards
CRJ705

Edit: Regarding the Autobahn comment posted, German cars (at least the ones I drove) came with aimers for their headlights, so they can be aimed at varying distances, and the farthest I have aimed it made me feel safe cruising at 90 miles per hour. The Autobahn might have unlimited speed limits, but at night most people use common sense and don't drive over 100miles per hour. During the daytime it is much easier to anticipate problems and adapt to them, and as such I got passed doing 120 miles per hour, but at night I got passed very infrequently going 80 miles per hour.

[Edited 2006-12-23 09:11:03]

User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2793 times:

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 1):
If everyone will wait just a few minutes for me to microwave some popcorn, I'd greatly appreciate it.

I'll share some of my licorice whips for some popcorn.



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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7125 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2794 times:

Quoting CRJ705 (Reply 6):
Your visibility is significantly reduced at such high speeds, and going 88 would probably be overdriving your headlights (where your light does not reach far enough ahead to spot an object in your stopping distance). Stopping distances are not linear, and grows exponentially as you go faster. Unlike the Europeans, which have a lot of experiences with speed and their vehicles come with headlights engineered for those speeds, most North American cars do not have that type of equipment. I used to drive everyone home at night, and the fastest I ever went on an abandoned road at night was about 75 miles per hour, and if a deer (or a pedestrian, like some drunk person) would have jumped into my path my car would have been toast.

Well first I drive a German car, made to be driven on the autobahn with good headlights and big breaks. ( but not those aimer headlights )
But I am talking about a well lighted interstate in the middle of Miami, no deers and plenty of street lights. I would never speed on a dark rural road. Whenever I am driving over 80mph I will always be looking whats ahead like cars on the side of the road or even the very rare pedestrian on the interstate.

I guess I really need to visit Germany some day and rent a nice car.  

[Edited 2006-12-23 09:17:25]

[Edited 2006-12-23 09:18:14]


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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2783 times:

yea this will be another fun thread . . .

Gender: Male
Age: 16-20
Country: United States
Location: MIA-FLL-PBI

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
just cruise around 88mph which in my opinion is completely safe and reasonable

you pay your own insurance? are the rates reasonable?

cause and effect anyone?


User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7125 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2776 times:

I guess my driving habbitats belong in Europe. Its not like I overtake cars on the right and cut in and out of traffic. I am talking about passing from the left lane and going on a straight dry highway at 88mph (which really is 85mph since my spedo is +3mph) in a car which is made to hit speeds over 130mph.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2773 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
I'll share some of my licorice whips for some popcorn.

::bites:: WTF? This isn't licorice! This is....leather?!? Wrong bag, dear.

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 4):
A county police officer just cruising down the highway at 68mph. And than all of a sudden pulls over the first person who passes him over 72mph? What else was he doing?

Let's see if I can remember that equation from my time at the Common Sense Academy...

already over the speed limit (x) + passing a cop (y) = asking for it (r²)

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 4):
So you telling me the Autobahn is a unsafe highway to drive on since people cruise at 120mph on that highway.

Perhaps not for someone with more than 10 minutes of driving experience. Additionally, (if I'm not mistaken) access to the 'Bahn is a little more controlled than I-95.


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2767 times:

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 10):
habbitats

Going for "habitats" or "Hobbit tits" here?

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 10):
in a car which is made to hit speeds over 130mph.

I believe you'll find your VW is "capable" of that speed. That is infinitely different than "made for." The speedometer on my Yukon goes to 120, but I'll bet if you ask GMC they'll advise you not to do it. Not to mention I don't think it could hit 120 falling off a cliff with a tail wind, but I digress.


User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7125 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2765 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 11):
Let's see if I can remember that equation from my time at the Common Sense Academy...

already over the speed limit (x) + passing a cop (y) = asking for it (r²)

Yes true thats why once I passed the cop my self I stayed at a steady speed which was about about 10 over the limit. I think this guy thought the cop would not pull him over or he just did not see him. But I just dont think 72-75mph is a justifible ticket since just 10miles north of where the guy was pulled over the speed limit is 65mph on the same highway but different county.



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2753 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 11):
::bites:: WTF? This isn't licorice! This is....leather?!? Wrong bag, dear.

Oh dearie! My bad.  ziplip  I should do better than just label things "whips". (But then BAB would be over here every night and I'd have to start saying things like "bugger off" to him, and he'd get quite cross.)



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User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2749 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 14):
(But then BAB would be over here every night...

As if he's not already.


User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2745 times:

Just out of curiosity, how do you know the guy that was pulled over received a ticket?

BAB



I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2743 times:

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 16):
the guy that was pulled

Now, stop all that sex talk!



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2735 times:

I'll get it on this one if you don't mind. I don't know about the US, but up here in Canada, more or less BC, the speedlimits are a joke. The "fastest" road we have is 110km/h. Most highways that have been improved by adding extra lanes, longer curves have not only had the speedlimits stay the same, some parts have actually had the speedlimits reduced! But of course, the big scare tactic from our Government owned insurance company (ICBC), is "Speed Kills". What a load of propaganda! Speed does not kill, stupid driving does and there is a big difference between the two.

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 3):
Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
This cop was just waiting to find a ticket to add to his record.

Asinine and factually baseless. You have no fecking idea what he was doing.

Again, I can't say much about the US, but around here, that is exactly what they do. ICBC (insurance company) is low on cash, they go out on a big "campaign" and the RCMP fill their quota.

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 3):
At 88 mph, your stopping distance is ~1620ft. And that's just an estimate without figuring reaction time (which is increased at night) with decent tires and dry pavement. At 55mph, ~633ft

What is your point with this? The faster you go, the longer you stopping distance is. If your car is mechanically sound, the road/weather/traffic conditons are OK and you are in control of the vehicle, there is no reason not to speed.

Quoting CRJ705 (Reply 6):
German cars (at least the ones I drove) came with aimers for their headlights, so they can be aimed at varying distances, and the farthest I have aimed it made me feel safe cruising at 90 miles per hour.

These are used to keep your headlights low when you are towing a trailer or have a heavy load in the back of the car, this way you don't blind oncoming traffic. Also, they are quite usefull while driving in fog at night. But the highest level is not much different then a normal lowbeam.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8697 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2723 times:

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 8):
I guess I really need to visit Germany some day and rent a nice car.

Yes, because we definitely need more people speeding. Just FYI, the "recommended speed limit" is 130 km/h. If you're faster than that and get into an accident, part of the blame will be on you. And if you speed recklessly and cause an accident, the fine will be hefty.

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 11):
Additionally, (if I'm not mistaken) access to the 'Bahn is a little more controlled than I-95.

All vehicles to enter it must be capable of doing more than 60 km/h, for example. All exits have on- and off-ramps.

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 18):
Quoting CRJ705 (Reply 6):
German cars (at least the ones I drove) came with aimers for their headlights, so they can be aimed at varying distances, and the farthest I have aimed it made me feel safe cruising at 90 miles per hour.

These are used to keep your headlights low when you are towing a trailer or have a heavy load in the back of the car, this way you don't blind oncoming traffic. Also, they are quite usefull while driving in fog at night. But the highest level is not much different then a normal lowbeam.

 checkmark 

[Edited 2006-12-23 10:21:09]


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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2720 times:

88 mph is speeding. You deserve to get a ticket. The law doesn't give a shit where your car was made or that you chose to break the law out of spite.

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 8):
good headlights and big breaks.

Besides, you shouldn't be driving a broken car at that speed.

Mark


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2716 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 18):
...there is no reason not to speed.

Except its the law. That sounds to me like "Its not illegal if no one gets hurt." I understand your point. But the bottom line is if you choose to exceed the speed limit, part of that is accepting the possibility that you might get a citation.

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 18):
What is your point with this?

That can be answered with this guy's statement....

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 18):
The faster you go, the longer you stopping distance is.

Especially at night, a driver's sight distance is dramatically decreased. At 88mph, you're over-driving your headlights' ability to pick-up possible hazards ahead. Pair that with standard reaction time and it sounds like a pretty decent argument for lower speeds.

All that being said, I'm a huge hypocrite when it comes to speed. I've found my comfort level on a well-lit, familiar, controlled-access highway is around 80mph. But I sure wouldn't in a 55 zone when I see a cop. That's just stupid.


User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

Speed is not always dangerous as people over here make it out to be. European highways are signifigantly faster than in North America yet their accident rate is half of what it is over here. The reason: Drivers education, they actually teach people how to drive on a freeway (left lane=fast lane, etc.), and the police actually enforce these rules.

There's talk of lowering the speed limit on our freeway here in Calgary from 100km/h to 80km/h  Yeah sure because of so many accidents, but the freeway is so busy that you can rarely do 60km/h anyway so I'm really sure it's speed that's causing the accidents.  Yeah sure

Kris



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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2675 times:

If you go over the posted limit, and get caught, too friggin' bad! Deal with it, the limits were set for a reason, to keep you safe, if you don't like it, pack up all your crap and move to Germany, I'm sure Lufthansa flies out of MIA.

User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2650 times:

Quoting FlyMIA (Thread starter):
I just cruise around 88mph which in my opinion is completely safe and reasonable especially compared to some of the speeds I hit when the roads are empty but the speed limit is 55mph!

30 mph over the limit is reckless driving and is an arrestable offense.

You don't know if the other driver was cited do you?

You have been driving for how long?

I would hate to see you crying if you were the one that got cited. Quit your bitching and grow up.


25 OU812 : How do you know if this other person got a ticket? Also,the cop might have pulled this person over because he/she looked suspicious. He needed a reas
26 Go3Team : Either way, you both were asking for it. The cop probably knew you were hauling ass, but some I imagine have their own rules for when they will write
27 Post contains images Pelican : Bah common sense is boring. 260kph all the time... Back to original topic. If it's a law cops have to enforce them. Isn't that the genuine purpose of
28 NeilYYZ : That fact seems to be lost on a lot of people, the reality is, the police are sworn to protect and uphold the law, it's not supposed to be up to thei
29 Ajd1992 : I've joined late on in this thread, but here's my 2p. You hate a police officer for doing his job? Think about it... sounds stupid in reality.
30 Post contains images Cadet57 : Well shit... You and I agree on somethin!
31 Post contains images KFLLCFII : I'm gonna have to add my two cents in on this one, because there's a big distinction that needs to be made. Have you paid attention to the physical r
32 Vikkyvik : So you KNOW that the speed limit is lower, but you still want to drive just as fast? I don't get it. I haven't seen you make any good arguments, real
33 FlyMIA : I am just using this as an example, I have a friend who got a ticket at 2am for going 72mph on I-95. I also have a friend who got pulled over when an
34 Post contains images Cadet57 : Yeah... I know what you mean with all those kids doing 88 on a 55 road..
35 Post contains images RobertNL070 : ...and then whinging when they get pulled over and ticketed
36 TPAnx : IIRC, thread-starter has posted this sort of argument before. Feels that he has the right to set his own limit. Probably also feels indestructible..as
37 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Yup, but there's no charge in Alaska for Driving while Sniveling like a Third Grader. . . . . . So let me see if I get this right . . . You're blowin
38 David L : Isn't it his job to patrol the highways and stop anyone he sees who's breaking the law? What has the speed limit "somewhere else" got to do with anyt
39 AirWillie6475 : Well everybody knows that they have to give out tickets, that's how they generate revenue, if they don't, they get ball busting by their superiors. I
40 ACDC8 : True, to a point. It is the law, if you break it, you have to accept the chance and responsibility of getting caught. But, when laws (speedlimits) ar
41 ACDC8 : Let's not get too carried away now, shall we? Again, depending on the road conditons, good vehicle maintanence, vehicle control (which includes keepi
42 Post contains images David L : We still get busted for speeding here. Again, that's not the fault of the police. They don't set the speed limit but they do have to enforce whatever
43 Queso : How about Aggravated Dumbass?
44 Post contains images A332 : Sometimes I just hate cops too... the few meetings I have had with local police in Calgary and the RCMP back home in BC were all very unpleasant exper
45 Post contains images David L : Well, it was you who implied that. But you assume the hazard is already there. The faster you go, the more chance there is of a hazard materialising
46 ACDC8 : Yes, they are only doing there job by enforcing the law, but sometimes the "law" can be quite questionable. I wouldn't use the "I'm a safe driver" ar
47 ACDC8 : Where did I imply going 500mph? As I said, lets keep this reasonable. This is where vehicle control and driver ability comes in to play. Let's say yo
48 Post contains images David L : I don't know why it is but I assume it's because the technology to detect speeding is simple, precise and requires less personnel to operate. Judging
49 Post contains images AeroWesty : This is still going on? I thought we've had this argument 100 times, at least. Let me tell you something I like about cops. A couple of nights ago it
50 David L : I suspect none of those victims asked the cops why they weren't out catching "real" criminals.
51 Dougloid : [ source? Accident statistics? What is your source of authority for this statement?
52 Ajd1992 : Lol, it seems so. Atleast in England, you don't hear of people everyday getting run over - much less when the driver is doing maybe 60 in a 30 zone.
53 ShyFlyer : I am not aware of the driver education standards in Germany, but they must be better than here in the USA, where only a pulse is required. I would sa
54 TWISTEDWHISPER : one thousand six hundred and twenty feet? From 88 mph to a complete stop. not included reaction? Well, let's add a two second reaction time, that wil
55 Post contains images AirCop : Well from this old highway patrolman, my thoughts any idiot that passes a cop at 75+ mph at 1:30am, should be stopped to be checked out for intoxicat
56 Itsjustme : This is obviously one of those instances where you should've counted to 10 before starting a thread. Or, maybe in your case, counting to 5 twice. I w
57 Avt007 : FlyMIA- You will speed many times in your life. Once in a while you will get a ticket. Take some advice from my 25 years of driving. Not once have I r
58 Post contains images OB1504 : The education that German drivers receive is vastly different than the one that drivers in Florida receive. Especially if you choose to do so in plai
59 Post contains images AeroWesty : Hey, were you the one who pulled me over around 1am on a Friday night near SFO on the 101 about 15 years ago? Seriously, this sounds like the most pl
60 IAH777 : Take another gander at the post and you'll find the link. I suck at maths, so I rely on what I find.
61 Post contains images AirCop : 15 years ago, I was working the Redwood City office, so who knows
62 Post contains links BHXFAOTIPYYC : There isn't one because it's bullshit. Firstly, Europe isn't a country, it's a continent, and accidents rates vary hugely from country to country Roa
63 Halls120 : I'll come with you! Deciding when he was going to pull you over for speeding, when a driver more stupid than you sped by, so he opted for the dumber
64 Post contains images Jamie757 : Threads like these never fail to make me chuckle, it's always a 16-20 year old cry baby as well! What I find particularly interesting is the amount of
65 FlyMIA : His driving habits? The officer does not know what his driving habitats where either, the officer saw everything I saw. A car going a little bit fast
66 Post contains images AeroWesty : Ha! ::point:: The Bayshore Menace! Caught at long last. What ended up being funny about the whole thing is that I actually saw him pull onto the free
67 AsstChiefMark : Speeding isn't normal driving, skippy. Didn't you ever hear that speed kills? Well Skippy. Can you think of a better way to punish people for breakin
68 Post contains links and images FlyMIA : Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 67): Well Skippy. Can you think of a better way to punish people for breaking traffic laws? Breaking unreasonable laws, I
69 AsstChiefMark : Brake. Brake! BRAKE! Break means to damage. Brake means to slow down. Jeez
70 Srbmod : Well that's not illegal everywhere. Speeding is, not using your turn signal is, driving too slow is, and driving without lights (brake lights, headli
71 AsstChiefMark : Then do something about it. Petition the appropriate government agency or run for public office. Speeding to spite the law only gets you in trouble.
72 Post contains images ANCFlyer : This thread is STILL running!? This thread has accomplished two things. It's shown a speeder in Miami/Dade County that there are people more stupid th
73 FlyMIA : I am not that foolish, I dont speed in those areas, I am not a fan of speeding in any residential area.
74 Kmh1956 : If there are apartment buildings on either side, then I would imagine that there is also a lot of pedestrian traffic and the 30mph is there to protec
75 FlyMIA : Well first if you would have read the first post of the thread you would have known that I dont speed in residential areas. But this is the suburbs o
76 Post contains images ACDC8 : Just time to do a quick post in between shopping runs. Ah, you gotta love Christmas time .... . I found some sources earlier today, I'll post them lat
77 Itsjustme : Got it. So you're a selective law breaker. Don't try and speak for a police officer. You have no idea what he saw. You saw "a car going a little bit
78 Halls120 : Not when the car is going 20 miles per hour over the posted speed limit. Actually, you are very foolish, driving 88 mph in a posted 55 mph zone. What
79 Post contains images IAH777 : Holy crap! I'd never get a block from the station! Do you know how much stuff we see every shift that we ignore? You don't. The point I'm thusfar-fru
80 Cadet57 : So? Neither do I. I dont speed in general.. Ok so there was the time I got nabbed on my way to the airport over the summer... Lesson learned.
81 Post contains images Boeing Nut : Do the math bub.
82 Post contains images ANCFlyer :
83 Queso : Good, we have something in common. Sometimes I just hate people that exceed the speed limit.
84 Halls120 : I'm beginning to think that math and good judgment aren't exactly the strong suits of our young friend.
85 Post contains links ACDC8 : As promised, some statistics ..... http://www.lawcore.com/car-accident/statistics.html http://ec.europa.eu/transport/roadsa...fety_observatory/doc/las
86 Post contains images Sprout5199 : I haven't bothered to read all the posts but here is my Are you a traffic engineer? Do you design highways? How about cars? Ok 88 is a safe speed to y
87 777ER : Thats about 160kmh.....now that would be fun on a freeway, considering ive done that speed on a quiet country road
88 ACDC8 : So according to the statistics I have provided. The US has about a 2% accident ratio, while Germany has a 0.8% ratio, unless I did my math wrong. The
89 57AZ : Depends. Here the road network is made up of a lot of state and local highways that date back to the 1930s and 1940s as well as the interstate highwa
90 David L : That's an argument for raising speed limits, not for breaking the existing ones. I also believe people's driving ability should be assessed independe
91 TedTAce : 129.096 feet per second at night on I-95 ( a road notorious for fatal road debris) and likely driving a vehicle that takes 4 seconds to stop at that s
92 BHXFAOTIPYYC : OK, now you and Vonrichtofen are comparing just Germany to the US. That's a different matter. First you were refering to Europe vs the US, and I was
93 TWISTEDWHISPER : I saw the link, hence my question: What numbers did you use to come up with 1620 feet. It's OK to suck at math, but what about probability? If you're
94 Post contains images ACDC8 : Agreed. However, I am comparing country to country. The reason why I mentioned Germany, is because I am very familiar with the road network there and
95 Vikkyvik : I'm also surprised at the 1620 feet. I'd expect something around 800-1000 feet or so, in good braking conditions. And for the thread starter: dude, w
96 57AZ : Many of them WERE designed properly for their day and time. Witness most of the US highway system for example (US Highways-not Interstate highways).
97 LOT767-300ER : I have driven alot of American cars and owned some that are a hell of a lot faster. Much more, If you hit a deer in a Crown Victoria and hit a deer i
98 AirframeAS : Isn't cell phone driving currently banned/illegal in the State of New York?
99 ACDC8 : This is another interesting point. I'm not going to try and make Polish driving standards look bad or anything like that, but Poland offers a special
100 57AZ : Not in Southern Arizona. About the only roads that have reflectors are the interstate highways, access roads and the US Highways. There are some stat
101 IAH777 : I simply plugged "88" into the "velocity" field.
102 Post contains images Vikkyvik : Ahhh, I see what you did wrong (I did too at first - it's not well-labeled). The first "velocity" box is actually for meters per second (the label is
103 Post contains images KaiGywer : Was he driving a DeLorean? Like pulling over drunks, people with warrants, wanted criminals and the likes? This has got to be the biggest myth in the
104 Post contains images AeroWesty : I was one of the 1 or 2. I-5 south of Portland is posted at 70mph, and I regularly set the cruise for 75. I just leave plenty of bigger fish for the
105 Halls120 : I'm one of the few. I speed all the time while on the interstate. But I'm never the fastest car on the road, and I never go more than 9 mph over the
106 Post contains images ACDC8 : Which is a point that I made earlier on in the thread. I agree, speeding is an offence, if you get caught, it is your responsibility to deal with it.
107 Post contains links and images SlamClick : Patently absurd. It is nowhere near this long on dry pavement. I think you got that ridiculous number from this website. http://www.csgnetwork.com/st
108 Post contains images KaiGywer : I know you didn't. I just used your quote to address the OP Sorry for any confusion. " target=_blank>http://www.csgnetwork.com/stopdistca....html Alr
109 MDorBust : We do it all the time down here. You'd be amazed at the number of things nervous drivers will admit too. **Cop pulls over car because of tail light f
110 MD-90 : Well, I don't hate cops. Except for a few crooked cops who commit injustice, because there's nothing worse than a crooked cop. But the only ones like
111 KaiGywer : Haha, good point. I agree with you, but for class purposes, it was "Good evening, Officer KaiGywer with the Airliners Police Department. The reason I
112 LOT767-300ER : A Polish license is an EU one as of 2004. It also takes about 3-4 weeks to actually receive your license when you complete the course (which no one c
113 Post contains images ACDC8 : No confusion, I tend to get lost a bit once threads get this long ... The only point I wanted to make is that North America is far behind other count
114 Post contains images KaiGywer : Damn, here in Minnesota it takes that long just to get to the counter Nah, but it actually takes 4-6 weeks to get the license in the mail. I think it
115 SlamClick : I agree but there is something far worse. That is, how absurdly easy it is to "qualify" for a driver license. The training, where it is required, is
116 KaiGywer : Sounds like what I had to go through to get my license in Norway. Sounds like what I had to go through to get my license in Minnesota.
117 Helvknight : In some European countries, including Switzerland, you'd be spending a few nights in jail.
118 Halls120 : You generally aren't going to get a ticket for doing 75 in a 65. Week before last I had the opportunity to observe Courtroom B of the Fairfax County
119 FlyMIA : The exits are on the right side of the highway and since I am going faster than most of the traffic I am on the left side and when a big interchange
120 Halls120 : Do you want a medal? The fact is, driving 88 mph in a 55 zone is just plain stupid, no matter how much you whine about it. And to say you hate the co
121 FlyMIA : I dont "want a medal" It just seems like people might get the idea that all I do is speed and always drive 30mph over the speed limit. I dont hate co
122 Halls120 : He was going 20 mph over the posted speed limit. What was so "wrong" about the cop in question doing his job?
123 FlyMIA : Sure there is nothing wrong with it, but I just never seen a City cop do that on the highway. Most of the time I see city cops going 70-80mph down th
124 Post contains images Halls120 : Happens all the time. The speed limit there was 55 mph. The cop was going 63, and he was "holding up traffic?" Why should the police enforce the spee
125 FlyMIA : One of the first things you always learn when you start to drive is when on the highway you should always flow with traffic. Well in Florida when the
126 KaiGywer : Ehm...the "other guy" passed him, so what's the problem with the cop "bothering" him? Yeah, by only going 8 over the limit...
127 Cadet57 : For that matter, how do you know he was going 63? Did you have radar gun, clock him for a bit? Actually the way I learned how to drive was that if yo
128 Vikkyvik : Maybe he wanted to slow the flow of traffic down. After all, he's supposed to enforce safe driving, right? Sorry dude, but as multitudes of people ha
129 767Lover : Having just driven (well, ridden, as my husband was the driver) 500+ miles and witnessed 2 different spinouts and 3 wrecks along the way, I'll say tha
130 FlyMIA : He was right behind me for a few miles (probably checking my plate and information) But for those few miles the distance between use stayed the same
131 AirframeAS : Teenagers! Sheesh! Gotta love them...they think they know how to drive better than us adults! Thanks, FlyMIA...it was entertaining! The next time you
132 Post contains images Halls120 : Wow, thanks. I've only been driving for 37 years. I never knew that. No, he was going - by your estimation - 8 miles an hour OVER the speed limit. Th
133 FlyMIA : Oh yea, so all those drivers who have been drivng longer than me are better? Yea that 35 year old in the Caravan who stays in the left lane of the hi
134 AirframeAS : Let me ask this straightforward: What makes you so qualified to make all of these assumptions based on the following: Your age, the situation you des
135 LOT767-300ER : If you dont drive above 75mph in a 55mph zone on most stretches of interstates in Chicago you will put yourself in more danger than if you were actua
136 Post contains images Allstarflyer : Yep, truth. Get pulled over a few times, smart off to a few cops and you'll find that most of them are usually decent. They're not there to give you
137 Allstarflyer : I know that stretch - between North-somethin' Mall in Schaumburg and O'Hare, just east of 294. I remember it because I would get lost on occasion get
138 LOT767-300ER : Thats just east of I-290 at the Woodfield Mall exit, about 1.5 miles from my house. That stretch of road is a stakeout city for Arlington Hts, Schaum
139 Allstarflyer : Yep, good call on the correction, thanks. That's 290 and 294 rides up the SE side of the airport, just next to, what, 4R/22L and Manheim? I kinda rem
140 LOT767-300ER : Yea 4R/22L is the I-294/I-90/I-190 (ORD) interchange. Also on approach to 27R, 22R and 27L.
141 Itsjustme : I ask this question all the time. And, more times than not, the violator will offer up something that I hadn't seen or wasn't aware of (yet). As rece
142 Post contains images KaiGywer : I guess it comes with the territory of having a Doctor in Police Science as a professor, who's never been a cop I also like the "Do you know...?"
143 Pope : The issue here isn't whether it is safe or dangerous to drive at 88 mph. The isssue is simply the fact that the law was broken. We live in a constitut
144 Post contains images Halls120 : sorry, I don't buy it. I'm sure you can go 65 in those stretches of highway without being a threat to safety. we have portions of I-95 here in Virgin
145 Post contains images IAH777 :
146 Kieron747 : Honestly FlyMIA. I hear your kind of talk a lot of the time, not just on A.Net but in real life. It's complete shite! You're whining and you didn't ev
147 AC320 : Ha, just try that next time you get pulled over. Seriously, just give it whirl. Or even better, contest the ticket and tell that to the judge. Later
148 Cadet57 : Maybe... Do you know how to take an SUV or rear wheel vehicle, and for that matter ANY vehicle correct it from a spin on snow and ice? Do you know wh
149 Post contains images MDorBust : Take off your glasses. (It helps a little when the airbag hits you in the face)
150 Cadet57 : LOL
151 Aloges : Nah... to be fair, some do exist for stupid reasons and sometimes even to enable extortion. The point is, it's not the cops who create these limits.
152 KaiGywer : And will use discretion on issuing a ticket or not. Works great for PC stop to find other stuff though.
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