Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 52 Posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2084 times:
Got me a new camcorder courtesy of Jen for Christmas.
I went out and shot a few videos today. One of them was of this Metrolink nearby in Orange.
Once I have this whole video and upload thing worked out, stand by for an avalanche of reel to reel clips! Ha ha. Too bad that uploading to YouTube not only takes FOREVER, but the quality really, REALLY goes way down. The original video, on my computer and TV, looks really sharp.
BaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 54 Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2075 times:
Good video. What kind of camera did you get? I would suggest a tripod as your first accessory.
Push-pull operations. There are controls in the rear carriage that the driver uses to control the locomotive during return trips. It eliminates the need for a locomotive at each end.
PerthGloryFan From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 751 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2006 times:
Quoting VHVXB (Reply 5): wow great video. Its not everywhere in world you see double deck trains
Sydney has, or used to have, double-decker carriages on the suburban services. Great view from the lower deck as the train stopped at a platform when mini-skirts were all the go
Have to agree with the tripod suggestion - helps heaps.
Traindriver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1991 times:
VHVXB, a few commuter rail operators here in the states use bi-level cars.
The first time I saw it was on the old Chicago and Northwestern RR back
in the late 60's.
AsstChiefMark, without the cab car or an engine on each end, the crew
would have to uncouple the engine and run it around the train and in some
cases either turn the engine around on a turntable or run it around a wye
track. The push-pull concept is quite a time saver, but most engineers
don't like running from the cab-car.
VHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5514 posts, RR: 24 Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1981 times:
Quoting PerthGloryFan (Reply 7): Sydney has, or used to have, double-decker carriages on the suburban services. Great view from the lower deck as the train stopped at a platform when mini-skirts were all the go
no they still do but I have seen very few rail networks which still. BTW the OSCAR rolling stock enter revenue service couple of days ago
Here are some videos of the Suburban Sydney network I have taken
Quoting Traindriver (Reply 8): VHVXB, a few commuter rail operators here in the states use bi-level cars.
The first time I saw it was on the old Chicago and Northwestern RR back
in the late 60's.
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1959 times:
Quoting Traindriver (Reply 8): AsstChiefMark, without the cab car or an engine on each end, the crew
would have to uncouple the engine and run it around the train and in some
cases either turn the engine around on a turntable or run it around a wye
track. The push-pull concept is quite a time saver, but most engineers
don't like running from the cab-car.
I know. Dad worked for C&NW. I grew up around trains. Mars lights still give me the willies, however.
Traindriver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1937 times:
Alright Mark, another member with railroad ties.
I spent some time up in Great Lakes in the Navy. We used to ride
the C&NW RR to Milwaukee so we could drink legally at 19. So much
for my sordid youth.
RichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1866 times:
Quoting Trekster (Reply 15): How are the signals read if the engine is at the back. Is there a vid cam or something
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6): There are controls in the rear carriage that the driver uses to control the locomotive during return trips. It eliminates the need for a locomotive at each end.
AA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13955 posts, RR: 62 Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1813 times:
That video is as boring as those online video blogs....
KevinL1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2960 posts, RR: 53 Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days ago) and read 1744 times:
Quoting Traindriver (Reply 8): The push-pull concept is quite a time saver, but most engineers don't like running from the cab-car.
Check out this link to an incident back in the 1950's. It involved a commuter train using "Budd Cars" which were self propelled coaches similar to running a Cab Car on a push /pull. The Santa Fe discontinued using these in part due to the hazards at grade crossings. http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/5...Wreck/012256_SantaFeTrainWreck.htm
Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 10): BTW, isn't this an aviation forum?????????
Yeah! Whatsamatter wif you train guys?
Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 17): That video is as boring as those online video blogs....
Nice contribution. We'll try to avoid it in the future.
Magyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1714 times:
Quoting VHVXB (Reply 5): Its not everywhere in world you see double deck trains
Here in Switzerland, we use double-decker both long-distances trains (IC2000 cars - see below for a link) as well asfor commuter trains. They are very practical for dead-end stations like Zürich. From the upper deck, you have a really nice view.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11097 posts, RR: 68 Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1676 times:
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6): Push-pull operations. There are controls in the rear carriage that the driver uses to control the locomotive during return trips. It eliminates the need for a locomotive at each end.
Push-pull operations are very common in Europe, but I don't blame some of our European friends for not recognizing the push-pull operation in that Metrolink video or in your Amtrak Surfliner video. The reason is that in Europe, they often design cab cars with cabs that look identical or nearly identical to the cab of a locomotive. Sometimes they will design a cab car with a generic looking cab, but still is quite obvious that it is a cab.
Here's an example of a powerful Swiss Federal Railways (SBB CFF FFS) Re 460 electric locomotive in a push-pull operation with several IC 2000 double deck cars. In this case, it is pulling the train:
Here it is pushing the train:
Now here is the cab on the otherside:
As you can see, the cab on the cab car looks identical to the cab on the locomotive.
It's makes the train look more symmetrical.
"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
Andrej From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 763 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1652 times:
Quoting EWS (Reply 4): You should see the health and saftey in other parts of the world.. this video amazes me...
I used to live in that part of Prague (Horni Mecholupy), and I have used that train station numerous times. The way the train station was built it was much easier and time saving fro people to cross the rail road in that fashion (even thought it was very dangerous) than go over the bridge which was intended access to the platform.
When I was younger I was not allowed to cross the rail road and when traveling with my parents we used the bridge to access platform. I have been always aware of trains and danger of crossing rail and I am sure that others were aware of it as well. Now I have to say that I also crossed rail because it was easier for me. I was always making sure train was not present. In nine years of living in Horni Mecholupy nobody was injured or died while trying to cross the rail.
People tend to be lazy and they will always find how to "cut corners" and I know that even in England, United States or in other parts of the world people will not always obey by regulations. I am an EMT here in the United States and I encounter numerous times a week when people are not following regulations or law. Speeding, crossing intersections on red light, drinking and driving or by getting high and dying in front of their children. (now that amazes me!)
Traindriver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1651 times:
Kevin, Thanks for the link, very interesting article.
Magyarorszag, I'd still rather have a little more steel in front of me.
We used quite a few EMD GP-38's. At least on that type of engine,
the cab is 10 to 12 feet behind the knuckle. In the front of the hood
you have a sand tank which lays sand on the rails for traction. That
engine type provides the crew a lot more protection in the case of a
grade Xing accident.
I think we're turning the site into railliners.net
Futuresdpdcop From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1288 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1640 times:
Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 3): Not much time between barriers and train there! Health and Safety over here would have a fit!
If I remember correctly, the lights and bells need to be activated 21 or 22 seconds before the train can enter the intersection.
Trvyyz From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1266 posts, RR: 13 Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1632 times:
I thought this was cool.
Pretty stupid and lucky.
25 Magyarorszag: Indeed. Where ever it happens, I don't understand these people that cross the tracks when they shouldn't, and this with more or less difficulties thu
27 BMIFlyer: Some train pics from me Took these in DEN last year Lee
28 Falstaff: I liked those C&NW Fs with the bell where the headlight should be for some reason. I rode in the cab of a former C&NW F at the Royal Gorge Railroad a
30 Traindriver: Nice pics Lee, they look a lot different than what you're used to seeing on your side of the pond. Falstaff, once you get that railroad bug, it's hard
31 AsstChiefMark: That's on my lifetime list of things to do! In the 1870's, railroad crews managed to build a rail line at the bottom of the 1100 foot deep gorge. And
32 AsstChiefMark: And now for something completely different. I always wondered what that would look like. Mark[Edited 2006-12-28 07:38:49]
33 Trekster: Good god. When will it end. 2 min 30 it took haha Intresting post, though surprised Alex has not posted yet
34 AsstChiefMark: That's a short train by American standards. They usually have four of five locomotives in front and two or three in the rear with over 100 cars (wago
36 EWS: Jesus Christ, and i thought waiting for one of Lee's Class 185's (3 cars!!) was bad! Lew
37 Falstaff: It was a great time. I used to live in Colorado and I remember going to see trains on that route when it was still an active freight route. Last I he
39 Falstaff: I remember once in high school I went watching trains with some of my dad's co-workers from New Zealand and they couldn't believe how long the trains
40 N231YE: Dou you have a picture of that? It sounds interesting...the most I have ever seen was 4 locomotives in the front pulling 50+ cars.
41 Falstaff: back in the 80s in Colorado you would see D&RGW SD40-2s six in the front, 2 in the middle, and 3 on the rear. With more and more powerful units you d
44 BMIFlyer: Damn, I count 3 Dash 9s up front, 116 Twinstax, plus 2 Dash 9s on the rear on the 1st vid Wow Lee
45 BMIFlyer: Oh my god, what an idiot this guy is Lee
46 Traindriver: N231YE, some years back wifey and I rode VIA from Vancouver to Montreal. Going through the Rockies all the trains carrying grain had helper engines in
47 AsstChiefMark: I remember an engineer (driver) on trains.com posted this: "I was the rear end helper on a solid train of auto racks that was 2 1/4 miles long. I don'
48 NoUFO: Ahem yes, and so is this very literal interpretation of a train 'ride':
50 PHLapproach: Someone was asking about trains with 4-5 engines. This is a true BNSF lash-up at it's finest. 7 on the point. http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.ph
51 EWS: Excuse my language here but HOLY SHIT! Thats Plain Insane!!! Lew
52 ORFflyer: My Grandfather worked for the old C&O Railroad that changed to the Chessie System I believe. I always loved trains. In the summers, my brother and I
53 RJ111: Those double stack container trains are madness. I love them!
54 AsstChiefMark: Double-stacks are becoming more common every day. They're really taking a bite out of the over-the-road trucking industry. "RoadRailer" trains are al
55 RJ111: Unfortunately the UK has a laughable loading gauge. We can't even get full height containers on our trains let alone two. I've seen those rail-lorry
56 Traindriver: ORFflyer, I had a friend in lived in the Tidewater region. The last time I was in that area was around '73-'74. So, it's going way back when I saw tho
58 Tom12: Honestly, what walue does that have to this thread? ... save your unvalued opinions in future? ... no? Cool Videos. Enjoy the new Camera, Matt. They
59 Thom@s: That woman must have some issues... Holy crap... that was surreal. They can't spell, but that guy sure knew how to ride the train. I have a theory th
60 AA61Hvy: No...It's my opinion; whose to say if my opinion is valued or not? You? Right. I've known Matt_D on these boards for quite a while. The dude isn't go
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What kind of camera did you get? I would suggest a tripod as your first accessory.
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Sydney has, or used to have, double-decker carriages on the suburban services. Great view from the lower deck as the train stopped at a platform when mini-skirts were all the go 
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