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Safe And Healthful Places To Visit In Africa  
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 14187 times:

Africa is a continent riven by more than its share of strife, disease, and disorder.

What are some of the better places to stay in Africa from the point of view of personal safety and well-being? What are some of the places to avoid?

I am aware that the largest and most tourist-oriented cities in, for example, South Africa are probably relatively safe to visit, but are there others? What are some of the most healthful places to visit in Africa?

Further, what, in your view, are some of the places in Africa that are usually considered safe or healthful to visit, that really are not?

Thank you in advance.

[Edited 2006-12-27 14:27:05]

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User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 14181 times:

Do you post whatever random thoughts careen through your mind?

Sheesh.


User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 14175 times:

"Healthful"? What does that mean?

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 14172 times:

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 1):
Do you post whatever random thoughts careen through your mind?

Not at all. Naturally, I follow a carefully screened mindprogram provided by the Airliners.net Posters Syndicate, situated in the capital city of the seventh planet of the brightest star in the constellation of Orion.

Doesn't everyone?


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 14175 times:

Quoting Doona (Reply 2):
"Healthful"? What does that mean?

By "healthful" I mean not only beneficial to one's health, but also posing the least risk to it.


User currently offline53Sqdn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 14149 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 3):
Not at all. Naturally, I follow a carefully screened mindprogram provided by the Airliners.net Posters Syndicate, situated in the capital city of the seventh planet of the brightest star in the constellation of Orion.

Here's me thinking 'I' was 'shot' away. Jeez ASF, I'm an amateur compared to you. So, are you on planet nine at the moment?


User currently offlineFrequentflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 736 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 14142 times:

Well I know a place where I am sure you would be safe and "healthful" whatever the length of stay, however it is not in Africa per se, rather about 1000 Miles off the coast of Kenya: The Seychelles.

I have been there numerous times, cannot wait to go back. Nice people, paradisiac scenery, wonderful beaches and warm climate.

Let meknow if you need some more details, I would be happy to provide them, incl. re: accomodation and things to do.

Cheers,

Pat



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User currently offlineKalakaua From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1516 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 14136 times:

I've always wanted to visit Kenya just for The Carnivore.


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User currently offlineDernierVirage From China, joined Aug 2006, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 14123 times:

Quoting Kalakaua (Reply 7):
I've always wanted to visit Kenya just for The Carnivore.

I have been there 3 times, and really enjoyed it. it is maybe more "tourist orientated" now, but I hope that it is still as good as before.


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12254 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 14123 times:
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My dad has friends all over Tanzania and Kenya, and both are nice and safe places.


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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 14104 times:

Quoting 53Sqdn (Reply 5):
Here's me thinking 'I' was 'shot' away. Jeez ASF, I'm an amateur compared to you. So, are you on planet nine at the moment?

Strangely, I have no idea! Generally, I try to stay on Earth, but there are times when I'm a thousand light years away.

Quoting Frequentflyer (Reply 6):
Let meknow if you need some more details, I would be happy to provide them, incl. re: accomodation and things to do.

The Seychelles sounds wonderful, Pat. I would indeed be interested in knowing a bit more about your experiences there, when you have the chance.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 9):
My dad has friends all over Tanzania and Kenya, and both are nice and safe places.

Thank you for that information, KaiGywer.

I studied about Tanzania and Kenya in a course at college, and there were comparisons between the two that favored Kenya. Sadly, it seems to me that, at least according to the news, times have worsened a bit even for Kenya, although it is quite possible my information may be dated. It's of interest to me what the situation is in both places at present, and your response is encouraging.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17659 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 14098 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
I am aware that the largest and most tourist-oriented cities in, for example, South Africa are probably relatively safe to visit, but are there others? What are some of the most healthful places to visit in Africa?

I have been to Senegal, the Gambia, Namibia, and Cape Town in South Africa, and I have never ever felt unsafe....even wandering around Dakar after the electricity was cut. Moreover, I've never gotten sick (now I've jinxed myself...haven't I?). My friends have also been to Niger and Tunisia, and I would have gone to those as well had I not either been bumped from the flight (AF is dead to me) or changed jobs. Again they never felt unsafe nor did they ever get sick. And we all stick out like sore thumbs anywhere in Africa. We are planning to go to Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Somaliland this coming Thanksgiving, assuming that whole region doesn't go to sh!t in the mean time. I think as long as you're cogniscent of your surroundings, you don't look like you're worthwhile robbing, and you make sure everything you eat is reasonably safe (ie steaming hot, or cooked in front of you, or peeled, etc), you should be fine. That said, just about everyone we met on the continent warned us about JNB, which I thought was odd. I've never heard one city so uniformly condemned.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 9 hours ago) and read 14091 times:

^^ Your comments are very helpful, Maverick. I had no idea that Senegal, the Gambia, Namibia, and Cape Town were all that safe. I will certainly look into it. I'm also interested in why JNB is deemed so dangerous.

Our media's coverage of Africa here is rather abysmal. We hear about Darfur, for example, and various other regions of war or famine, but there is hardly ever any other information on what Africa can offer. This creates an information vacuum that must be quite frustrating for those who would like to travel in appreciation of places where, like some areas of Africa, wildlife such as elephants, rhinos, and lions must roam in abundance.

I would imagine that even a quick read of any of the popular travel guides (e.g., the Lonely Planet series) could provide a thousand times as much information about a particular African country than one would generally receive on a typical day here in America.


User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 14085 times:

I wouldn't go as far as to call any of them "safe" just keep your head on straight and don't do anything stupid. Common sense goes a long way.

That being said, for the next several months I'll be travelling back and forth from Europe to Ethiopia via Cairo and Khartoum, Sudan...I can't say I'm at all thrilled about that last one, but I'm getting paid for it so who am I to complain?

I would also look into somewhere like Namibia, some of the best desert scenery in the world, and off the beaten-track...I've never heard a bad thing about the place.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 11):
We are planning to go to Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Somaliland

Interesting...my company used to operate to Djibouti, and the state department highly advised against us keeping a crew there, let alone keeping the plane there. So we never did. I also can't say Somalia would be high on my travel list....and I'd go just about anywhere.


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 14077 times:

From experience South Africa, Ghana, Mozambique and Namibia. Kenya is way too touristic now. Seychelles is very expensive compared to other ones.
Ho about Mauritus? Madagascar?



Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineFrequentflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 736 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 14047 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 10):
The Seychelles sounds wonderful, Pat. I would indeed be interested in knowing a bit more about your experiences there, when you have the chance.

AFan: well you may want to plan for 5 days in Mahe (the main island) and then go by boat to La Digue or Praslin, smaller islands but.. God, what a scenery! Stay a couple of days there. Sailing, fishing, Snorkeling, Scuba, paragliding and canoe + swimming in pristine unscathed waters, that's what I've done so far in Seychelles and believe me it is wonderful, even if a bit pricier than Mauritius or Reunion or even Maldives. When you stay on Mahe, try the Beauvalon Beach resort, and ask for a chalet, as close as possible to the Sea. The magnificent beach is yards away. On La digue, go to Anse Boudin, one of the most beautiful beaches I have ever seen. Bring a lot of sunscreen with you!



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User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 14038 times:

From my experiance,Abidjan(The Paris of West Africa) in Ivory Coast is a wonderful place to visit.Nice hotels,elegant restaurants and crazy discotheques


Alex!!!



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User currently offlineAvt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 14021 times:

Libya is quite safe and stable. If you are a fan of Roman ruins, they have some of the best in the world. Don't expect Western style service, as they are just now adapting to the idea of the whole tourism thing, but they are nice people, the climate is nice and it's off the beaten path.

User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17659 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 14004 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 16):
From my experiance,Abidjan(The Paris of West Africa) in Ivory Coast is a wonderful place to visit.Nice hotels,elegant restaurants and crazy discotheques

It definitely was once upon a time. However the country went down the toilet starting in 2002, so I'm not sure how dodgy it is now.



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 13974 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 18):

It definitely was once upon a time. However the country went down the toilet starting in 2002, so I'm not sure how dodgy it is now.

And that freaky toxic waste scandal a few months ago. Put 60,000 people in the hospital. I've heard good things about Gambia from friends who've been there. Libya also seems like a nice place to visit (though Americans might not be all that welcome...).

Quoting Flyer732 (Reply 13):
I also can't say Somalia would be high on my travel list....and I'd go just about anywhere.

Somalia and Somaliland are not the same thing. Though Somaliland is located in the northern part of Somalia, it is in most other aspects a country in it's own. Apparently the local chiefs and elders pulled their communities together and managed to keep war and famine away, even during the problems of the early 90's. Problems is that no-one outside of Somaliland will recognize them as a sovereign nation, as that would violate principle of sovereignity, as the [rather disintegrated] Somali government doesn't want to let them go. I think they deserve independence, as they've done a much better job than the Somalis when it comes to, you know, taking care of its people.  banghead 

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineKBFIspotter From United States of America, joined May 2005, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13960 times:

The only African country I have been to is Mali in 1998, and I would love to go back sometime in the future... I only spent three days in Bamako, but I liked the city. It does not have too many western influences, and is a great place to explore. I also had the unique opportunity to spend a month in the mythical city of Timbuktu, about four hundred miles (IIRC) north east of Bamako. I was impressed by the city, and by the generousity of the nationals. Although I was there on a summer missions trip with a church group, we still found the time to explore the city and the surrounding desert.

Kris



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 13921 times:

Talking about the whole African contident, I have been only in Morocco. In winter the North-African countries like Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt are inexpensive package holiday destinations for Finns and other Nordics.

I liked Morocco, it's an interesting mix of Arab, black African and French influences. Very pleasant climate in winter, great food and the Sahara desert is one of the most beutiful places I have ever been.
The only difficult thing for me was that I wasn't left much personal space,
local guys often came VERY close physically.


User currently offlineTNNH From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13886 times:

W Retreat in Maldives

User currently offlineSOUPS From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 13867 times:

Quoting TNNH (Reply 22):
W Retreat in Maldives

Thats not in Africa



Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 13863 times:

Quoting SOUPS (Reply 23):
Thats not in Africa

Definitely not,the Maldives belongs to Asia
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
25 Post contains images Kalakaua : That's a shame. A couple of my friends are from Kenya, and they keep raving about that place. I'm looking forward to eating some zebra or wildebeest.
26 AirCop : I hear that Burkina Faso is an exciting place to visit. I believe Sahara was filmed there. Its one of the poorest countries in the world, the economy
27 Overlander : AerospaceFan, My recommendation to you is pick a country, any country in Africa, and go and try it. You might find they are people too. They are not d
28 AerospaceFan : I've been reading the new comments in this thread with interest. Again, they are most helpful. Your kind wishes are much appreciated! Thank you very m
29 AndrewUber : The first class section of an EK A340-500 is a "safe and healthful" place while it's overflying Africa at 40,000 feet... that's one place I wouldn't m
30 JRadier : It's your health, not theirs. If you do not feel safe doing it (and I don't mean a little bit, but seriously unsafe) I wouldn't go there.
31 Post contains images Gkirk : Tunisia, Egypt and Morrocco. Perhaps South Africa too
32 Post contains images KaiGywer : I've only been to Morocco, but Kenya, Tanzania, and South Africa are on my list. Can't beat free accomodation
33 Flyer732 : You only live once I suppose! By the time I actually get there, I will have been flying for like 20 hours, and won't know which end is up anyways.
34 JRadier : Yep, and I intend to make the most of it. I'm not affraid of a small risk, but I'm not interested in putting myself in serious danger (not specifical
35 Post contains images Connies4ever : 1st part: 2nd part: Women get that in a lot of places, unfortunately. I remember my g.f. being distinctly uncomfortable about Italian guys when we we
36 Trvyyz : How is Zimbabwe? I've seen their cricket team and it looks pretty similar to the SA team.
37 Post contains links Connies4ever : If you are interested in nature, and want something exotic, try here: http://www.ftiyemen.com/socotra.htm Just don't have an Israeli stamp in your pas
38 KBFIspotter : Zimbabwe is not a place I would visit at the moment... The current government is anti-western. A few years ago, the president demanded that all white
39 MAH4546 : Nobody has mentioned Accra. Accra is arguably the most modern, cleaniest, and safest city in Africa outside of South America and Botswana, as is Libre
40 Post contains images EZEIZA : Accra is wonderful, I had a great time there, including a weekend in a resort in a town called Ada. Great people, and also safe to walk around. The ot
41 AerospaceFan : I've checked out a reference on Accra (accra.com, to be precise), and from appearances, it does seem to be a most modern place. This is a most welcome
42 Post contains images AirCop : Just curious AF what was the purpose of the thread, apparently you have no plans to travel to Africa. I would suggest that you save your pennies, and
43 AerospaceFan : Thank you, AirCop. I appreciate your advice, and marvel at your resourcefulness.
44 ME AVN FAN : - I might recommend Banjul/Gambia and Dakar/Senegal, two very nice places with beautiful beaches for good swimming and nice and hospitable people - ex
45 AerospaceFan : Most interesting! I did not know that any of these countries allowed the consumption of alcoholic beverages.
46 Post contains links ME AVN FAN : - Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Egypt are wine-producers. Tunisia also produces various spirits and liqueurs like the most recommendable Thibarine. M
47 Post contains images AerospaceFan : ^^ How are the wines by way of prices? I haven't seen many of them sold around here. We have European (e.g., French, Italian) and even Australian wine
48 Post contains images KaiGywer : I can recommend Agadir in Morocco if you like beaches. Nice beaches, and just a few hours away from Marrakech, which is another nice city. Agadir has
49 AerospaceFan : I wish there was weekly travelogues of places like that. I guess maybe there are on some of the cable channels and I simply haven't had time to watch
50 Post contains links KaiGywer : You could always start surfing www.lonelyplanet.com Lots of good information there.
51 ME AVN FAN : - the prices in shops in these countries are unbelievably low by European standards. But even in Switzerland the Algerian "Royal Kadir" (from Oran) i
52 AerospaceFan : ^^ Thanks, KaiGywer. I appreciate it!
53 Post contains links ME AVN FAN : some WEBsites covering North Africa : - > ARAB COUNTRY-WEBSITES MAGHREB [ INCL LIBYA ] www.mauritania.mr Mauritania www.mincom.gov.ma Morocco www.tay
54 Post contains links MaverickM11 : www.virtualtourist.com
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