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BEWARE: "Happy New Year Worm"  
User currently offlineNWDC10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2184 times:

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/viruses-malware/54920.html#

Robert NWDC10

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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Yet another reason why I only open emails from people I know.



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Thanks for the warning.  irked  Why do people need to do this sort of destructive behavior?

User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
Why do people need to do this sort of destructive behavior?

Makes them feel good  grumpy 


Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

ThreatCon Level is 2

The ThreatCon is being maintained at Level 2. DeepSight sensors are reporting moderate activity targeting TCP port 2967. This activity is believed to be related to the propagation of the 'W32.Sagevo' worm. This worm propagates by exploiting the Symantec Antivirus Remote Stack Buffer Overflow Vulnerability (BID 18107). An Analyst Watch has been in place for this activity since 11/27/2006; however, a substantial spike in activity was observed on December 20, resulting in the release of this ThreatCon alert. Customers are strongly advised to restrict access to TCP port 2967 at the network perimeter until this malicious activity subsides. This vulnerability was addressed on May 25, 2006; if patches have not been deployed already, install them immediately. Symantec Remote Management Stack Buffer Overflow (http://research.eeye.com/html/advisories/published/AD20060612.html) Three Microsoft Word zero-day exploits are circulating in the wild. Customers are advised to ensure that antivirus signatures are updated on a regular basis until patches are available and to enforce strict filtering policies to prevent the distribution of malicious Word documents. More information will be made available as it is uncovered.

www.symantec.com


User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

/me goes to check inbox... Nope. I'm not popular enough to get emails.


Yay Pudding!
User currently offlineAdopim88 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 2007 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 5):
/me goes to check inbox... Nope. I'm not popular enough to get emails.

aww, me niether  Sad



Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

So cool!



User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

Boy, Im glad I bought a mac! See, I just plug along, the bad emails go straight to me trashcan an I never see them, Its magical. It really is.  Wink


Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

And they do to on a PC, at least when using Office, or the new Windows Vista Mail program. I love Macs, but get off of it already. It has been proven that Mac's ARE susceptible to virus's and spyware, just like PC's. The problem is that with such little market share, it isn't in hackers interests to do anything with Macs.. maybe if the Apple would get a clue and open their stuff up to third party vendors, they might actually gain above their pitiful 2% or so of the computer market. And before you pop a valve on that statement, what other company makes such a better product which can't compete with another format? Sorry, but Apple's marketing and/or engineering department is screwing the big dog here..

And besides that, and more importantly, Mac users tend to be more computer savvy, while you have everyone from the 6 year olds to the 80 year old Grandmothers running PC's who love (and insist) on opening everything sent to them. So what I'm saying it's no more safe on an Apple vs a PC, it just depends on who's driving it.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21467 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
It has been proven that Mac's ARE susceptible to virus's and spyware, just like PC's.

No such thing. Like every other Unix, MacOS X has none of the many Windows-exclusive vulnerabilities which are one of the main reasons why the situation is as desperate there as it is.

MacOS X is thoretically capable of being infected just like Windows. But that is the only similarity here. There is no justification to equate the two, most specifically not in real life.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
maybe if the Apple would get a clue and open their stuff up to third party vendors, they might actually gain above their pitiful 2% or so of the computer market.

Or so.  crazy 
At the current growth rate (solidly in the double digits) Apple has little to worry about in that department while their competition is mostly stagnant at the same time.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
Sorry, but Apple's marketing and/or engineering department is screwing the big dog here..

Nothing could be further from the truth. Please update your estimates.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 9):
So what I'm saying it's no more safe on an Apple vs a PC, it just depends on who's driving it.

At this point (and most probably for quite some time to come), that is simply not true.

Even the most careless Mac user simply couldn't have his system infected at this point. And in the near to medium term it is extremely unlikely that the outright horrific Windows mess could be matched, let alone surpassed.

Common sense and a reasonable amount of caution will always be recommended, but it speaks of a great deal of both ignorance and wishful thinking to confuse the two platforms in the way you've done above.


User currently offlinePanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2679 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

What's a virus?

Signed,
MacOS Users


User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 10):
No such thing. Like every other Unix, MacOS X has none of the many Windows-exclusive vulnerabilities which are one of the main reasons why the situation is as desperate there as it is.

Oh really?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/04/09/apple.trojan/

Text:

Virus tries to take bite out of Apple's security
Attack remains low risk
By Daniel Sieberg
CNN
Monday, April 12, 2004 Posted: 7:19 PM EDT (2319 GMT)


(CNN) -- The first Trojan horse virus to target Apple's latest operating system was discovered this week, and it appears to prey on the popularity of Apple's popular music service. However, it has not been released into the "wild" or on the Internet, and therefore remains low risk.

Trojan horse viruses typically open a secret door for hackers to exploit at a later time.

Macintosh security firm Intego received an e-mail copy of the virus on April 6, but stressed that it is not spreading through replication like a typical virus.

Intego dubbed it "MP3Concept" because of its "proof-of-concept" nature and because the malicious coding can be hidden within an attached MP3 music file. A modified version could also be inserted in other types of files, such as photos.

"We take this first Trojan very seriously," said Intego CEO Laurent Marteau. "This is very easy to modify and create a different version of the same problem."

Apple's operating system, Mac OS X, was released in early 2001, while Apple's iTunes music service was introduced in late 2003.

Double-clicking on the attached MP3 file launches the iTunes music program and simultaneously spawns the Trojan program in the background, said Marteau. But he added that it does not appear to be destructive except under certain computer settings. Intego stressed that this Trojan horse does not exploit any vulnerability in iTunes.

Security firm Symantec said Friday it was analyzing the virus for more details and agreed with the minimal damage level suggested by Intego.

Meanwhile, Apple said Friday that it's responding to the would-be threat and released the following statement:

"We are aware of the potential issue identified by Intego and are working proactively to investigate it. While no operating system can be completely secure from all threats, Apple has an excellent track record of identifying and rapidly correcting potential vulnerabilities."

Macintosh users have historically touted more robust security on Apple's machines. Security analysts also note that Apple retains less than 5 percent of the overall computer market, making it a much smaller target for hackers than Microsoft's Windows systems.



Seems to me that's EXACTLY what I've said, well, I said 2%, and it's really 5, but still...



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User currently offlineLh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2369 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
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Virus??

Signed,
MacOSX Users



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 11):
What's a virus?

Signed,
MacOS Users

 rotfl 


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21467 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 12):
Oh really?

Yes, really.

The link you provided - like a bunch of similar desperate attempts to gain attention - refers to proof of concept malware which was deliberately cooked up by the "security" vendors to peddle their "protection" software. I guess they also go around busting the kneecaps of people who don't pay up...!  mischievous 

No cause for a sense of false security - but as long as we still have real security, a normal level of attention is sufficient on a Mac.

Meanwhile under Windows, something between panic, frustration and desperation is usually the motto of the day.

Just ask yourself: Are you really ready for another year of that?

In that vein, have a nice day!  innocent 

(And a really good new year as well!)


User currently offlineNWDC10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

By the way: i believe there are no computers that are absolutely clean of spyware. We ALL have spyware wheather we realize it or not. Robert NWDC10

User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21467 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Quoting NWDC10 (Reply 16):
By the way: i believe there are no computers that are absolutely clean of spyware. We ALL have spyware wheather we realize it or not.

Looking from a Windows perspective this kind of paranoia is understandable, but even there it would be slightly exaggerated... Of course there are many systems which are free of spyware, even some Windows ones...


User currently offlineNWDC10 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 17):

Looking from a Windows perspective this kind of paranoia is understandable, but even there it would be slightly exaggerated... Of course there are many systems which are free of spyware, even some Windows ones...

Do you not even know Micro$oft software contains spyware even?

Robert NWDC10


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 11):
What's a virus?

Signed,
MacOS Users

Well, seeing as you asked...

http://antivirus.about.com/od/macint...iruses_and_Mac_Virus_Resources.htm

From Mary Landesman, your guide to Antivirus Software, resources for Macintosh users. Macs aren't immune to viruses, but they are very rare. Learn which viruses infect Macintoshes and what solutions are available to defend against them.


User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7175 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

All I know is I got an e-mail saying HAPPY NEW YEAR in my Spam folder, well it was from some hotmail adress and I made sure to get rid of it.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineWestJetForLife From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 814 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1793 times:

My e-mail server hates me, so I use hotmail.

I don't even open e-mails from people I know, in fear of getting some virus and frying my motherboard for the umpteenth time.

Thanks go to $6,300 worth of computers destroyed by viruses because my sister doesn't know how to use a virus scanner.



I need a drink.
User currently offlineJfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1788 times:

Quoting WestJetForLife (Reply 21):
I don't even open e-mails from people I know, in fear of getting some virus and frying my motherboard for the umpteenth time.

Thanks go to $6,300 worth of computers destroyed by viruses because my sister doesn't know how to use a virus scanner.

contrary to popular believe

1) you cant get a virus from opening just opening an email, only an attatchment

2) Virus's dont break anything... just corrupt the software, you can just re-install the operating system... Next time you get a "broken" computer from a virus, instead of throwing it out, just ship it to me... I'll even pay the shipping  Wink


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21467 posts, RR: 53
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 19):
From Mary Landesman, your guide to Antivirus Software, resources for Macintosh users. Macs aren't immune to viruses, but they are very rare. Learn which viruses infect Macintoshes and what solutions are available to defend against them.

Yeah. The "security" vendors are positively desperate to sell their products to Mac users as well, so in the absence of actual threats they have begun to cook up "proof of concept" malware and launched scare campaigns which are primarily based on disinformation.

There is always good reason to be cautious and to keep one's eyes open, but at this point blindly installing "protection" software on a Mac would be pointless and could even lower your security level in some cases.

This may change some day, but at this point on a Mac you're best served by keeping your system updated (enable Software Update to check regularly, preferably daily) and by being reasonably cautious:
- don't run software from dubious sources (this includes shell- and AppleScripts)
- don't enter your admin password unless you're sure it is requested for valid reasons

Things may change in the future, but among the biggest threats for Mac users at this point, disinformation spread by particular interested parties is one of the more dangerous ones!


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1765 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 23):
Yeah. The "security" vendors are positively desperate to sell their products to Mac users as well, so in the absence of actual threats they have begun to cook up "proof of concept" malware and launched scare campaigns which are primarily based on disinformation.

Geez Klaus, what is it with you and Apple? I am guessing you're a share holder. Whenever anyone says something that could be negative about the (not so) great and powerful Apple, you always seem to take it personally. Chill man. It's not only a machine, but it's a machine that connects to the Internet and those two facts alone make it susceptible to malfunctions and virus attacks.


25 Klaus : I hate disinformation of any kind, and there aren't many areas where it is as rampant as regarding computer security. Or, for that matter, the Macint
26 Itsjustme : I'm not disputing this. Well, let me rephrase that. I don't know enough about the MacOS X to dispute it. But you don't seem the least bit willing to
27 Post contains links and images Tmatt95 : Or Wozniak, the other co founder of Apple . Sorry for taking this thread off onto another subject but there is a great set of videos on the Internet
28 Itsjustme : Yep, "Pirates of Silicon Valley" with Anthony Michael Hall (Bill Gates) and Noah Wiley (Steve Jobs). One of my all time favorite movies. It shows how
29 MDorBust : Geez Klaus the shine really has you blinded. If a "security vendor" can write an effective piece of malware, then a bored hacker in his moms basement
30 Post contains images Klaus : Where have I denied that that could be a contributing factor? The problem is that people who know nothing besides Windows simply - if understandably
31 GuitrThree : And this is where you are wrong. Like I said above, a far superior product should be kicking the others hand over foot. But why not in this case? It'
32 Post contains links Klaus : Be my guest and configure a professional-grade PC matching the MacBook Pro - Technical Specifications at the price range you indicated above. Please
33 Post contains links Itsjustme : A heads up for PC and (oh no!) Mac users: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6146615.html A newly disclosed security vulnerability in Apple Computer's
34 WestJetForLife : Haha, next time I will remember that, sir. Thanks.
35 Itsjustme : I disagree. If your email software (MS Outlook, Outlook Express, etc...) or your web browser (used for accessing your email) automatically displays H
36 Goldenshield : That's simply impossible given the fact that Mac OS runs only on Mac hardware.
37 Post contains images Klaus : It's a known attention-hungry windbag who is apparently collecting, withholding and then immediately publicizing potential vulnerabilities right with
38 Goldenshield : What does that have to do with a custom built computer?
39 Post contains images Klaus : Sorry - my mistake. I had initially read your post correctly but while writing my reply it somehow got "run over"...! You're correct - it's impossibl
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