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Have The Democrats Disappointed You So Far?  
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

The American electorate has spoken, and Congress is now under the control of the Democratic Party. Nevertheless, the question must be asked: What does that party stand for, and why is it that it has failed to announce its program of leadership?

When the GOP, under Newt Gingrich, took control of Congress many years ago after a long sojourn in the wilderness, it did so under the fanfare of the so-called "Contract with America". By contrast, the Democrats' so-called "100 Hours" of action appears relatively unknown -- and unimportant. It includes, for example, such earth-shaking initiatives as... lowered rates for student loans?

Really?

The Democrats control the Senate as well as Congress -- and the Senate has been, if anything, typically lethargic and nondescript.

The Democrats should seize the moment rather than grasping at straws. They have promised rather little, and I, think, have done even less.

What's next? Such exciting benefits as... amnesty for illegal aliens? How, praytell, does this serve the interests of the working American, whom the Democrats have traditionally represented, or at least, say they have?

It's time that those Americans who voted for them express their disappointment with what has occurred -- or, rather, failed to occur -- in this new era of Democratic leadership.

[Edited 2007-01-11 17:33:44]

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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Well, for chrissakes...they were sworn in Monday and it's Thursday morning.....and you're already convinced they're a do nothing congress....look, fella, you'll have plenty of time to grind your axe.
Give me a fuckin' break.

 confused   confused   confused 


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2722 times:

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 1):
Well, for chrissakes...they were sworn in Monday and it's Thursday morning.....and you're already convinced they're a do nothing congress....look, fella, you'll have plenty of time to grind your axe.

I believe that none other than Dick Morris, a former friend of Bill Clinton, has already criticized the Democrats during this new period of leadership.

He has done so by stating, according to one headline, that they have lessened their moral authority by taking a vacation on behalf of a football match.


User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

Morris is a horse's patoot.

http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/election...is_butchers_facts_to_slime_hillary


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2704 times:

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 3):
Morris is a horse's patoot.

Goodness; shall we refrain from ad hominen attacks?

I pray that we should.


User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1952 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

I'm profoundly disappointed. In the long period since they took control of congress on Monday, I've been watching. For one, the way Harry Reid brushes his teeth is horrible. He misses spots and doesn't floss right. Also Nancy Pelosi got some ketchup on her sleeve at lunch the other day. I don't want to throw this word around lightly, but it's kind of...treasonous. Of course, the BBC has completely left all this out of their supposedly "even-handed" coverage, and Rush Limbaugh is being sent to Gitmo so he won't be able to expose the truth either. It only confirms my expectations, though.

Signed,
Aerospacefan

[Edited 2007-01-11 17:58:34]


It's people like you what cause unrest!
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

And yet, it is true that at least one report has it that the Democrats have criticized the President's brave speech on Iraq without providing an alternative.

This -- this -- is leadership?

The Democrats have had months to prepare for this, their shining moment to prove their mettle. And, arguably, it is even a matter of years, if we count the elections of two years ago, wherein they lost their campaign for the Executive Office.

But, instead of brilliance, we are greeted with matte-like opacity. Relatively few knew what the Democrats wanted for Iraq during Campaign 2004 -- and, in 2007, even fewer know what they want now.

A plea for information from the Democratic leadership, and word of advice: "Let's cut and walk" is not a substitute for the criticism that they seek to "cut and run".

Genuine leadership requires communication. It abhors avoidance and silence, which, in turn, remonstrate those who merely seek to lead in their absence.

[Edited 2007-01-11 18:09:31]

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39888 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2675 times:

AerospaceFan:
Hate to do this to you but you have an...




This Democratic Congress thing sounds like it's eating you alive.
Take a deep breath and relax a little.

Nancy Pelosi is the most powerful woman in the world. Everything will be just fine.  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20647 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

The Democrats have not disappointed me one bit. In just a couple of days in power, they've so infuriated the Rush Limbaugh crowd, just by winning, that his cult of merry men can't even quote each other right, while they stumble over each other in an attempt to discredit the freshly minted Congress.

Bliss. Pure bliss.

Carry on. And thank you, GOP.



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2667 times:

I have an obsession, all right, and it's known as the pursuit of what's good for our country.

If they bottled it, it might be sold for a premium, but if so, only for its relative rarity.

I should like to believe, however, that it is as common as the air we breathe.

Isn't it?


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 1):
Well, for chrissakes...they were sworn in Monday and it's Thursday morning.....

Exactly my thoughts. Hell, they haven't done anything yet . . . . talked a lot of talk, passed some benign BS bills, talk more talk, and checked out the exectuve crappers in the Hart Building . . .

So what!?

Why don't you come back in a month and ask the same question ASF, just program yourself to resend topic about then.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Nancy Pelosi is the most powerful woman in the world.

No No NO 'Fly, only in the US . . .  rotfl 


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20647 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2667 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Nancy Pelosi is the most powerful woman in the world. Everything will be just fine.

 checkmark   checkmark   rotfl 

Brilliant!



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineOlegShv From Sweden, joined Mar 2006, 683 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

AF, please, relax...

I think


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 10):
Exactly my thoughts. Hell, they haven't done anything yet . . . . talked a lot of talk, passed some benign BS bills, talk more talk, and checked out the exectuve crappers in the Hart Building . . .

So what!?

The phrase, "Strike while the iron is hot", comes to mind.

Political moments are ephemeral. Call for war at the right moment, and you are a hero. Be dragged into war at the moment after, and you are a knave. We live in the age of the ICBM, the Airborne Laser, and the 15-minute news cycle. He who hesitates, is lost -- or, at least, verbally pummelled into utter submission.

As a public citizen, all I ask is that the Democrats do what is right -- for our country -- for you, and for me.

Political bullshit be damned -- the Democrats should do what they must do.

A "Democracy" is only as good as the citizenship behind it.

[Edited 2007-01-11 18:19:26]

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39888 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2631 times:

Will somebody PLEASE remove the batteries from AerospaceFan's back?
He just keeps going, and going, and going, and going, and going..........





Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2628 times:

The Democrats in Congress haven't disappointed me one bit.

They have done everything I expected they would do before the election.

They have done nothing that will earn my vote in the next election.


User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 15):
They have done nothing that will earn my vote in the next election.

Thanks for giving them 3 1/2 days to change the world. Mighty big of ya.


User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2612 times:

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 16):
Thanks for giving them 3 1/2 days to change the world. Mighty big of ya.

They gave themselves 100 hours. I haven't seen anything earth-shaking. Besides it was supposed to be a new day in America simply because Democrats were now in control.

We wait with baited breath...


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2611 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 13):
Political moments are ephemeral. Call for war at the right moment, and you are a hero. Be dragged into war at the moment after, and you are a knave. We live in the age of the ICBM, the Airborne Laser, and the 15-minute news cycle. He who hesitates, is lost -- or, at least, verbally pummelled into utter submission.

Well, if you really want your government to run at lightning speed, I suggest you move to Venezuela, where there's really no need for debate or discussion - whatever Chavez says goes. I'll be staying here, though, where the legislative process takes a certain amount of time to unfold.

Ask this question again at the end of January and you might see some decent responses. But as of now, it's like asking how the game has gone after the opening kickoff.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):

I've been wondering when we'd be seeing that again.  biggrin 

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offline174thfwff From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
Nancy Pelosi is the most powerful woman in the world. Everything will be just fine.

I'll only judge her after her first few CYCLES... if ya'll know what I mean.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 15):
The Democrats in Congress haven't disappointed me one bit.

An appropriate response, sadly.

I am far more interested in results than partisanship, and I would have hoped that the Democrats, after such a long time out of power, would have shown their eagerness to act by means impressive to an electorate clearly interested -- by the Democrats' own lights -- in change. Sadly, what has made news, instead, is the self-aggrandizement of Speaker Pelosi upon proclaiming her uniqueness as a female politician of the highest caliber -- and this, from a liberal media!

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 16):
Thanks for giving them 3 1/2 days to change the world. Mighty big of ya.



Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 17):
They gave themselves 100 hours. I haven't seen anything earth-shaking. Besides it was supposed to be a new day in America simply because Democrats were now in control.

I do believe that the above exchange is self-contained as well as self-explanatory. Bravo, UALPHLCS!


User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2601 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 17):
They gave themselves 100 hours.

Well, then give them 100 hours.  Wink

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 17):
Besides it was supposed to be a new day in America simply because Democrats were now in control.

As a liberal who has little but contempt for both parties, I never thought that.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20647 posts, RR: 62
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2597 times:

Quoting 174thfwff (Reply 19):
CYCLES... if ya'll know what I mean

I'm sure at 66 she's menopausal, if ya know what I mean.  stirthepot 



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
The American electorate has spoken, and Congress is now under the control of the Democratic Party. Nevertheless, the question must be asked: What does that party stand for, and why is it that it has failed to announce its program of leadership?

When the GOP, under Newt Gingrich, took control of Congress many years ago after a long sojourn in the wilderness, it did so under the fanfare of the so-called "Contract with America". By contrast, the Democrats' so-called "100 Hours" of action appears relatively unknown -- and unimportant. It includes, for example, such earth-shaking initiatives as... lowered rates for student loans?

Really?

The Democrats control the Senate as well as Congress -- and the Senate has been, if anything, typically lethargic and nondescript.

The Democrats should seize the moment rather than grasping at straws. They have promised rather little, and I, think, have done even less.

What's next? Such exciting benefits as... amnesty for illegal aliens? How, praytell, does this serve the interests of the working American, whom the Democrats have traditionally represented, or at least, say they have?

It's time that those Americans who voted for them express their disappointment with what has occurred -- or, rather, failed to occur -- in this new era of Democratic leadership.



Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 6):
And yet, it is true that at least one report has it that the Democrats have criticized the President's brave speech on Iraq without providing an alternative.

This -- this -- is leadership?

The Democrats have had months to prepare for this, their shining moment to prove their mettle. And, arguably, it is even a matter of years, if we count the elections of two years ago, wherein they lost their campaign for the Executive Office.

But, instead of brilliance, we are greeted with matte-like opacity. Relatively few knew what the Democrats wanted for Iraq during Campaign 2004 -- and, in 2007, even fewer know what they want now.

A plea for information from the Democratic leadership, and word of advice: "Let's cut and walk" is not a substitute for the criticism that they seek to "cut and run".

Genuine leadership requires communication. It abhors avoidance and silence, which, in turn, remonstrate those who merely seek to lead in their absence.



Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 9):
I have an obsession, all right, and it's known as the pursuit of what's good for our country.

If they bottled it, it might be sold for a premium, but if so, only for its relative rarity.

I should like to believe, however, that it is as common as the air we breathe.

Isn't it?



Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 13):
The phrase, "Strike while the iron is hot", comes to mind.

Political moments are ephemeral. Call for war at the right moment, and you are a hero. Be dragged into war at the moment after, and you are a knave. We live in the age of the ICBM, the Airborne Laser, and the 15-minute news cycle. He who hesitates, is lost -- or, at least, verbally pummelled into utter submission.

As a public citizen, all I ask is that the Democrats do what is right -- for our country -- for you, and for me.

Political bullshit be damned -- the Democrats should do what they must do.

A "Democracy" is only as good as the citizenship behind it.



User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

^^ Would that we all grieve as much for the fate of a country so cynical of political process that we should expect nothing from them -- and receive less.

25 AirCop : Right and the do nothing congress for the past six years was working for what's good for our country? Apparently the voters of this country had other
26 UALPHLCS : Well that's mighty big of ya! You apparently weren't in on the memo.
27 Searpqx : It's more common than most think, and why, except for those with an ax to grind, most of us are willing to give them more than 3.5 days to actually d
28 AerospaceFan : If your second sentence is accurate -- and let us propose, for discussion, that it is -- then why is it a question at all what the Democrats have eve
29 AerospaceFan : Ah, yes. Three and a half days, or 84 hours. Have we accomplished 84% of the 100-hour program of change? Perhaps, in fairness, it is in regard to Con
30 AeroWesty : Is there some point to this, or are you having a snow day and just bored?
31 Mdsh00 : Patience, they haven't even been in for a week!
32 AerospaceFan : A snow day in Southern California?
33 AirCop : Need to subtract some hours, the 100 hours started Tuesday. Apparently some members of Congress wanted most of Monday off, for the BCS game. Prioriti
34 Post contains images Superfly : According to his profile, he is in Los Angeles. No snowfall down there. WellHung: We've had our fights in other threads but damn, that was hella funn
35 Post contains images Superfly : Well Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead gets snowdays and that is Southern California too.
36 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Touche'.
37 LTU932 : Here's a question: how can the democrats disappoint if they haven't even been in office for at least a month?
38 AirCop : What the heck are you talking about? What you wrote doesn't make much sense, again considering Congress has been is session for three days. May I sug
39 Post contains images AerospaceFan : I wouldn't be so interested in what the Democrats should have accomplished in three days if it weren't the fact that they've sold themselves as the "
40 Post contains images Superfly : Sounds like he doesn't leave the house either!
41 Post contains images Searpqx : What cracks me up as much as your obsession with the Republican loss, is your hypocrisy. If the Republican's had won and someone had started a thread
42 Continental : I do find this rather large. As a student, along with hundreds of thousands of other students all around the country, this really is a big deal. Taki
43 AerospaceFan : That's like saying that a Democrat should be able to complain after November 2004 about the President "still being in control" and things "still" not
44 Post contains images AeroWesty : I'm glad my Suggest Deletions haven't taken effect yet, or I wouldn't have been able to read this.
45 Post contains images Superfly :
46 AerospaceFan : Granted, and I appreciate your input. All in all, however, it's not a big issue if you're not a student, and most of us aren't.
47 Klima : If you're paying student loans, like me, this is important. I hope they deliever.
48 Mir : It is in regard to Congressional hours. While I do believe that Congress should spend more time in session, 24 hours a day would be excessive. The 10
49 Post contains images Searpqx : Gotta give you credit AF, considering the thread topic, it took some brass ones to make that statement with a straight face.
50 AerospaceFan : [Post deleted by AerospaceFan for reasons of taste -- and modesty.][Edited 2007-01-11 19:42:20]
51 Post contains links Superfly : AeroWesty: Too bad you weren't here years ago. AerospaceFan is starting to remind me of another angry and predicatble conservative member that is now
52 Post contains images AeroWesty : Oh come on, I wanted to hear what the TSA agent said after she gave you the wanding.
53 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Well, be sure to tell me when I'm supposed to be angry in this thread. I'll try.
54 AeroWesty : Well you could always go over to one of your other threads and get real angry that your free speech was curtailed by a Republican congress, but appar
55 Post contains images Superfly : AeroWesty: That's some funny stuff ay?!?! He was deleted for blaming 9/11 on the in his words "those god damn liberals"! I he was saying that ON 9/11!
56 AeroWesty : No way! That's hilarious! We should set up a pool on what will make ASF go over the edge. Nancy Pelosi governor of California? Hillary Clinton presid
57 Post contains images Superfly : Are you good with photoshop? Nah actual it could very well happen in two years. A State Of The Union address given by President Hillary Rodham Clinto
58 Bushpilot : Ah gentlemen, I know it must irk the hell out of you that the democrats are in control, but I think Mir sums it up nicely. It has to do with floor ho
59 Post contains images AerospaceFan : I think that it'll be the day that Speaker Pelosi declares herself the Empress of Congressional America. In other words, sooner than you may think.
60 AeroWesty : Since Speaker Pelosi hasn't declared herself anything yet, you'll just have to wait for 'Fly's prediction to come about. Just please, don't start 3 t
61 AerospaceFan : Sure she has. "Marble-ceiling" breaker, for one. We're all required to be duly impressed. Maybe even give her a foot massage, I don't know.[Edited 20
62 AeroWesty : Wow, you're just out of control now. Perhaps a nice visit to Venezuela will help calm you down.
63 Falcon84 : AF, you still need that long, long, loooooong vacation I mentioned after the election. You still haven't recovered, and some R&R away from the compute
64 Superfly : Are you really that ignorant? For someone who claims to be such a patriot, you should at least have some knowledge of American history. Perhaps you a
65 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : Jesus, I'm a Republican who was disappointed on Election Day, but damn. Some of these people probably haven't even taken their first shit since gaini
66 Searpqx : Once again AF, you're up against a wall and your true colors come out. Whether you choose to acknowledge it or not, Pelosi becoming the first female S
67 Post contains links Bushpilot : I would concur, put your heavy coat on and come up and visit me. March would be a good time. You can visit during out winter carnival. www.beaverroun
68 Post contains images Superfly : " target=_blank>www.beaverroundup.com Umm, beaver roundup? Is that safe to look at while at work?
69 AirWillie6475 : They raised the minimum wage! Wow, that is going to help so many many Americans, many many. College kids, the poor and oh yea did I mention college k
70 Bushpilot : Yeah, its the 51st annual event I think. I am taking orders for T-shirts and hoodies if anyone is interested.
71 AirCop : Regarding the 100 hours, AF, after my last post I went to the gym and on CNN the clock is at 18 hours so they still have 82 hours to go. Remember you
72 Post contains images Texan : AF, you jump on the Dems for the hell of it. If they had pushed many strong legislative ideas, you'd be hollering about how crappy all the ideas are
73 Post contains images LH423 : Right! Because whenever the Republican-controlled congress jumped on Clinton about something, they'd always back it up with their own solutions. Oh w
74 AirWillie6475 : No I'm just happy because I'll make 5 cents more per hour thanks to the Democrats.
75 BigOrange : Brave speech??? It would have been a brave speech if it had been his resignation speech. As for an alternative, the only alternative is to pull out i
76 Bushpilot : As much as I despise the man in the White House, and I think he will go down as a horrible President. We dont want anything to happen to him. Because
77 AirWillie6475 : Wasn't brave, although you can argue that this decision will make or brake his Presidency, but he did come out clean with the people, finally. He sai
78 Falcon84 : It would have been a brave speech-and the correct one-if he had done this in January of '05, instead of January of '07. The decision to go to war was
79 Post contains images Dtwclipper : I think the new congress has already put the "Brakes" on his Presidency. But seriously, I think you are correct that this new strategy will "make or
80 Falcon84 : What's hysterical about AF here is that he critisizes ANYONE, who dares critisize the President after almost 6 YEARS in office! Yet, he hasn't given t
81 Post contains links AeroWesty : I'm satisfied that payback is hell. I might even do a "Civil War Within Republican Party?" thread if they follow-through with their current threat to
82 Post contains images Falcon84 : Perhaps, but think back, around the election, when AF, in so many words, basically said it was treasonous to even critisize this president! And yet,
83 AerospaceFan : Speaking of the past, both Sen. Reid and I shared an interest in increasing the numbers of U.S. troops in Iraq; it is merely that I have remained con
84 Falcon84 : Actually, it is supported by your words, but I don't have the time nor the inclination to look it up. You're simply a total hypocrite here, nothing m
85 AerospaceFan : Anyone can make accusations, but without a reasonable attempt at proof, they aren't worth anything at all.
86 LTU932 : And my question still remains unanswered...
87 AerospaceFan : It's a good question, but one also addressed by the fact that one of its own leaders has just disclaimed responsibility for making policy -- even as
88 Post contains images Cadet57 :
89 Post contains links and images Zippyjet : 2 wrongs don't make a right! So what if the Dems didn't blather a lot of hooey and do what they please like that other party? Sometimes, being laid ba
90 Post contains links AeroWesty : I do. If You Could Change The Law, Would You... (by AerospaceFan Feb 13 2006 in Non Aviation)
91 AerospaceFan : Let us review two of my posts there: (Boldfacing added.) Neither of the above, nor any other contribution I made in that thread, remotely suggests tha
92 AeroWesty : It was very clear to me that you were advocating a review of treason and sedition laws because you saw where you'd like it applied, where it currentl
93 Post contains images Halls120 : You're kidding, right? FOUR days in office and you are calling for us to start storming the barricades? I think Pelosi will prove to be a horrible SO
94 AerospaceFan : Let's assume for the purpose of argument that what you say is true. It isn't, by the way, but let's just go with it. On that premise, isn't there a d
95 AeroWesty : The Democrats are just as responsible for the safety of our armed forces as the Administration. I don't go looking at new cars or TVs, unless I'm in
96 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I want T-Short, Extra 2XL . . gotta get around this Alaskan Amber. I'm still baffled by those that are continuing to argue over what dems have and ha
97 AerospaceFan : Then explain Sen. Reid's recent comment that he was not responsible for making policy in regard to Iraq? Threads as the equivalent of buying cars? I
98 Post contains images AeroWesty : There's far more to the safety of our troops than just the policy end of things. I'm sure there's at least two threads worth in that statement alone.
99 AerospaceFan : Right, but policy is a necessary component, even if it isn't sufficient. Sitting around and back-seat driving our foreign affairs has a way of doing
100 Post contains images AeroWesty : I'm talking oversight, budgeting, you know, all those things that should draw from the resources of the best qualified people. Hey now, I didn't say
101 CastleIsland : "Einstein disguised as Robin Hood with his memories in a trunk passed this way an hour ago with his friend a jealous monk Now he looked so immaculate
102 AerospaceFan : Here's an imaginary conversation between Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada and the President of the United States: "Good morning, Mr. Presiden
103 Post contains images AeroWesty : Sounds like the basis for too many of your threads. (I'm taking bets on how many times the above will be edited in the next 30 minutes.)
104 Columba : How about the generals that are saying sending more troops is ill-advised. That it will only present more targets to the enemy and put more troops in
105 AerospaceFan : But it's been now-retired Gen. Shinseki that the Democrats have been quoting all along. The one who said we needed 300,000 troops. Now he's wrong all
106 Superfly : 100+ post and this thread has gone nowhere. It was foolish for AerospaceFan to start it in the first place. Even like minded conservatives didn't jump
107 AerospaceFan : Do you always suggest locking up threads regarding political matters that you believe others should not discuss? When was the last time that a conserv
108 Falcon84 : You are obsessed with anything "leftists" do, AF. It's pathalogical, I think. Let it go.......
109 Post contains images Superfly : This is the first time I've ever asked for a thread to be locked up. You can verify that with every moderator here.
110 Post contains links AerospaceFan : I'm interested in a country where both conservatives and liberals get a fair shake. Currently, liberalism and the left are and remain in decline prec
111 AirCop : Superfly does make a point, still thread is and has been going nowhere. The great majority of the posts are repeating itself, basically saying that th
112 AerospaceFan : Please see the comment I posted right before you posted yours. The question is that of the Democrats' honesty. Have they sold the American people a p
113 AirCop : Same was true when the Republicans were in control.. Alot of the idiot stuff passed by the House never saw the light of day in the Senate and if it d
114 Post contains images Halls120 : Facts to support this assertion, please? and they failed disastrously in the November election, didn't they?
115 Post contains links AeroWesty : ASF, you really should read more before making outrageous claims: The First 100 Hours - Keeping Track (by AeroWesty Jan 12 2007 in Non Aviation)
116 Post contains links AerospaceFan : The above would be discounted by a description of the Contract With America by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative public interest group, which m
117 AerospaceFan : As far as I know, none of those activities have resulted in Senate passage of a similar bill, let alone been signed into law. I fail to see your poin
118 Falcon84 : No you're not. Everything you post screams that all you want is to have conservative ideas reign supreme, unchallenged, and to silence those who dare
119 AerospaceFan : If all this activity results in nothing but opposition in the Senate, then wouldn't this be the classic case of sound and fury, signifying nothing? W
120 AeroWesty : They've passed the House, and been brought for a vote, which is the first part of the pledge. It's only the first week. Allow them to surprise you in
121 AerospaceFan : It's a legitimate position to take, not being disappointed. However, given what Sen. Durbin has already acknowledged, and given Speaker Pelosi's and
122 AirCop : Gee, that was so 1995, Lets see here the Contract with America; 1. The Fiscal Responsbility Act - balance budget well not happening..was rejected by
123 Post contains images AeroWesty : Now that we've established that the Republican congress was "do-nothing, know-nothing" we can only go up from here. Thanks for your clear definition
124 Post contains images Halls120 : ASF walked right into this one!
125 AerospaceFan : "Another" such Congress doesn't imply that the previous one was anything of the sort. For example, if I said that President Bush is "another great Pr
126 Post contains images AirCop : Time to quit while you're behind.
127 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Just keep that in mind when liberals claim that President Bush is "another failure" -- it must mean that President Clinton was, too.
128 Jaysit : The Democrats have disappointed me so far. Where are the tumbrils carrying Condi, Rummy, Bush (and Babs Bush for good measure, just because I think sh
129 Post contains images AirCop : Anyways Bush II isn't a failure, but his presidency at this point in time will go down as one. Time to take the wife to dinner.. investment time !
130 AerospaceFan : I nominate James Carville to act as Robespierre, on the basis of looks alone. He has that cunning visage perfect for the role. Now -- I'm setting my
131 Post contains links AerospaceFan : BTW, here's a painting -- perhaps prettified -- of Robespierre. Notice the prominent forehead and the somewhat scrunched-up face. Reminds you of a cer
132 Bushpilot : WOW this one just wont stop. Keep going ASF this is like Rocky vs a polar bear. They will tire soon, keep fighting I just went to a meeting about 2 ho
133 AerospaceFan : Thanks for your support! It is much appreciated.
134 Falcon84 : I think he appreciates your comedic value, not the one of perserverence.
135 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Either way, it's appreciated.
136 Bushpilot : OH This is great. Well both, I dont agree with him, but it is impressive watching him fight back against well everyone for the most part. It is funny,
137 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Thanks again. Well, gotta get some dinner. Be back later.
138 Post contains images Falcon84 : What? You don't eat at the computer by yourself?
139 Jaysit : The day after your computer breaks down leaving you unable to pontificate on the web.
140 AeroWesty : Please make sure that the next time someone posts a picture of the current president resembling a monkey, that you don't yell treason, k?
141 Halls120 : When you get back from dinner, and patting yourself on the back, perhaps you'll consider posting some evidence to support your earlier assertion: Or,
142 Post contains images Superfly : I am still waiting for him to back up his claim that I always request for threads to be locked up. I've never done so until today and I didn't even s
143 Post contains images AeroWesty : Perhaps it's time for a new thread: "Has AerospaceFan Disappointed You So Far?"
144 Halls120 : Better yet, "Questions that Aerospace Fan continues to duck."
145 Post contains images AeroWesty : Better yet, "Questions AerospaceFan and OU812 continue to duck."
146 AerospaceFan : Superfly, I disclaim and retract any allegation or implication, intentional or otherwise, that you, yourself, have previously requested the closure o
147 Pilotfox : I know people shouldn't be able to make a living wage, what where the democrats thinking. Being a college student I really hope they don't lower those
148 Halls120 : If we are going to discuss this matter with civility and integrity, how about we start with you posting some evidence to support your earlier asserti
149 Dougloid : Since when is a statement of fact an ad hominem attack? You need to spend some time with the skeptic's guide ot the universe or maybe retake intro to
150 Halls120 : He also slept though the class on supporting your assertions with factual evidence.
151 AerospaceFan : Nonsense, unless you can show that Morris is, in fact, the hindmost of a horse. Again, that's important for a segment of the population, but not all
152 Post contains links UALPHLCS : Why have Democrats not disappointed me? This article is a perfect example: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070117/ap_on_go_co/congress100_hours By this a
153 AerospaceFan : ^^ A most interesting point. It appears that the legislative clock runs almost in its own time zone! And, let's add to that the Senate's demonstrated
154 AeroWesty : Which they wouldn't need to, since their count bill-wise is 5 down, 1 to go, which you've conveniently passed over in your bitching and moaning about
155 AerospaceFan : But the legislative agenda of the House means pretty much jack if the Senate doesn't go along, AeroWesty, sad to say. I think it's pretty clear from S
156 UALPHLCS : I didn't skip over it. It was irrelevant. As Aerospacefan pointed out, none of these bills means anything with the Senate the way it is. House Democr
157 PanAmOldDC8 : As an outsider to the US I make the following predicton Republican President in 2008 Senate Republican in 2008 House Democrat in 2008 I know you all
158 AerospaceFan : ^^ Precisely, UAL. The whole propaganda effort by these Democrats now in power in the House is arguably quite offensive. Bread and circuses, everyone.
159 AirCop : Republican President, should be interesting because in this country since FDR only one time has a party maintained the office of the President for mo
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