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Adultery = Life In Prison In Michigan  
User currently offlineJimyvr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2147 times:

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070115/COL04/701150333

Adultery could mean life, court finds

January 15, 2007
BY BRIAN DICKERSON
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

In a ruling sure to make philandering spouses squirm, Michigan's second-highest court says that anyone involved in an extramarital fling can be prosecuted for first-degree criminal sexual conduct, a felony punishable by up to life in prison.

"We cannot help but question whether the Legislature actually intended the result we reach here today," Judge William Murphy wrote in November for a unanimous Court of Appeals panel, "but we are curtailed by the language of the statute from reaching any other conclusion."

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User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2147 times:

Shouldn't worry. It won't affect the large majority of a.net.

User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12281 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2122 times:
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That's just a messed up law. Comparing adultery to CSC1....ridiculous.


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

Appears just another case where the state legislature passed a bill (probably written by someone on a cause) without reading or understanding it. It shocking the number of time legislators will vote on a bill without reading it, instead their vote is based on a quick summary or that someone asked them to vote one or another.

User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

So if two consenting adults choose to have sex, they can be put away for life simply because one or both are married? Well f*ck me, and here we were thinking allowing homosexual marriages would "destroy the sanctity of marriage." This is just dumb.  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineJamotcx From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1037 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2036 times:

Hmm interesting law. And to be honest with you I feel a good law. I've known few people where the other half has cheated. As far as I'm concerned the cheater deserves to be punished. At least end the marriage or relationship before having sex with someone else.


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User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2026 times:

Wow how ironic is it that this whole thing was triggered by Attorney General Mike Cox?


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User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

Looks like no one from Michigan will be visiting the Jerry Springer Show for awhile.

User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

I'm surprised there was no 'Signed by: TedTAce'

User currently offlineDrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1942 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 6):
Wow how ironic is it that this whole thing was triggered by Attorney General Mike Cox?

In addition to the name, it's ironic that Mike Cox himself admitted to having committed adultery back in November of 2005: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...=/20070115/COL04/701150333&&&imw=Y


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User currently offlineCF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

sorry can someone tell me how that law differs from somalias if you dont pray 5 times a day you will be beheaded? Adultery will always happen now the Government is playing God? How cute

User currently offlineAA787823 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

There we go, overly conservative and prude America at its best!

User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6843 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Ah, life in prison.... in some places people would be delighted with life in prison for adultery.

http://www.dribbleglass.com/subpages/strange/sexlaws3.htm



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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1835 times:

Quoting CF188A (Reply 10):
sorry can someone tell me how that law differs from somalias if you dont pray 5 times a day you will be beheaded?

Just guessing, but is no beheading the difference?


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

Isn't adultry committed on a daily basis?! Stupid law if you ask me.

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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12281 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1816 times:
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While we're on the topic of adultery. Minnesota has kind of a screwy law:

609.36 ADULTERY.
Subdivision 1. Acts constituting. When a married woman has sexual intercourse with a man
other than her husband, whether married or not, both are guilty of adultery and may be sentenced to
imprisonment for not more than one year or to payment of a fine of not more than $3,000, or both.
Subd. 2. Limitations. No prosecution shall be commenced under this section except on
complaint of the husband or the wife, except when such husband or wife is insane, nor after
one year from the commission of the offense.
Subd. 3. Defense. It is a defense to violation of this section if the marital status of the woman
was not known to the defendant at the time of the act of adultery.


So basically, a married woman can only have sex with her husband. A married man though, can have sex with any woman, as long as she is not married  Smile



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User currently offlineCF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1778 times:

the world of Bible thumpers..... great! I am sure God gave them the power to make all these wonderful laws which will govern my life. Screw them Smile God I love Canada.

User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1768 times:

Here's a good quote:

'Cox's spokesman, Rusty Hills, bristled at the suggestion that Cox or anyone else in his circumstances could face prosecution.

"To even ask about this borders on the nutty," Hills told me in a phone interview Saturday. "Nobody connects the attorney general with this -- N-O-B-O-D-Y -- and anybody who thinks otherwise is hallucinogenic."'


I didn't realize that some people are actually drugs capable of producing hallucinations.


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1757 times:

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 17):
I didn't realize that some people are actually drugs capable of producing hallucinations.

I don't know which is worse, that you're enough of a geek to catch that misuse of the word, or that I'm geeky enough to think it was funny? Big grin

Before people get too wound up about the US and its puritanical sexual mores, as AirCop pointed out, this is probably more of a case of unintended consequences than it is to legislate adultery. Lets be honest now, adultery is all but accepted in the world of politics these days. Long gone are the days of Gary Hart and the Monkey Business.



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1755 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 15):
While we're on the topic of adultery. Minnesota has kind of a screwy law:

Now you're just being redundant.

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 18):
I don't know which is worse, that you're enough of a geek to catch that misuse of the word, or that I'm geeky enough to think it was funny?

They're both equally pathetic, no?  Wink


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12281 posts, RR: 35
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1750 times:
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Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 19):
Now you're just being redundant.

Department of Redundancy Department? How am I being redundant?



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 20):
How am I being redundant?

A "screwy" law regarding adultery. It's always funnier when I have to explain it.  Wink


User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 15):
So basically, a married woman can only have sex with her husband. A married man though, can have sex with any woman, as long as she is not married

A case of institutionalized sexism there. Sad this happens still. I cant believe that one hasnt been changed around.

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 18):
this is probably more of a case of unintended consequences than it is to legislate adultery.

This is more or less correct. Laws are written, and voted on, and often times not read thoroughly by those voting on it. A word here, a comma there and the meaning is skewed. I have the feeling this will be re-written ASAP.


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

Let's say husband and wife decide to have some fun with a third party and videotape it for posterity. If the couple have a falling out, can each use the tape to send the other to prison for life?

User currently offlineMolykote From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1343 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1641 times:
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I'm not advocating life in prison for this offense, but....
...following the link below I could certainly see some form of compensation being owed toward a betrayed spouse by both the cheating spouse and/or his/her other "partner".

Although the context (employment) of the link below is certainly different than that of marraige, this link does detail specific "emotional distress" criteria and the compensation that has been received for each. I'd have to imagine that an adultery victim could make a legitimate claim (by "emotional distress" standards) for many of these items.

http://www.theemploymentlawyers.com/...Emotional%20distress%20damages.htm


Is anyone aware of any cases where "emotional distress" was invoked in a case of adultery? Has the concept of a "verbal contract" ever been played out with marraige vowels?, etc?

I have some ideas on the whys and why nots of this scenario. However, I am not a lawyer and would be interested in any input from those more educated in this regard than myself.



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25 Saintsman : Whilst not always the case, adultery is usually a result of the other partner not meeting the former's needs. If you can't get it at home you will loo
26 FlyboyOz : Well I think that MI is the largest chrisitian community. I know lots of christian friends who live in MI.
27 RichardPrice : Sure the cheater needs to be punished, but not by the criminal legal system - if the hurt spouse feels she is due some sort of justice, then she can
28 Itsjustme : True. Not that many of us live in Michigan.
29 Post contains images KaiGywer : Doh!
30 N1120A : I think the Michigan Supreme Court needs to throw this sucker out.
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