American-born Abu Usamah at-Thahabi who studied a strict version of islam at the Islamic University of Medina in Saudi Arabia; now preaches hate from a mosque in Birmingham, England.
I don't see the priests of the Catholic church extorting crusades from the pulpit. What happened to a religion that was supposed to be about tolerance, faith and charity? This is a ticking time-bomb not only in the UK, but the rest of Europe as more and more muslims are added to these communities. Firebrands that preach hate, and murder need a prompt reckoning themselves.
Jamman From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1972 times:
I saw the Channel 4 dispatches program that shows video footage of this so called preaching, it was a very chilling program with the violent referances used towards Christians and Jews and all this is happening in Mosques in Britian, a sad discovery indeed.
They refer to non belevers as Kaffors (spelling?) which I think means "non belevers" I remember at school I was often called this by some islamic class mates, its kinda taken on a more sinister meaning now after watching this documetery and the way this word was used.
Moderate Islamics should take heed and fight back against this kind of preaching, it puts us all at risk.
Jetset25j From New Zealand, joined Feb 2006, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1911 times:
Quoting Melpax (Reply 1): Another one, this time in Sydney.......
More so that this man's DVD's and hate sermons were being sold in mainstream islamic book stores in Sydney and people were buying them!
Or Perhaps this guys role as head of a major Islamic youth group in Sydney sickened me more while preaching that kids should kill themselves...talk about moulding future generations...
Maybe women are to blame themselves for getting raped??
If this guy ever dares show his face in his birth place Australia again, he's goin down.
Arniepie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 1265 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
There are a lot of different trends in ISLAM (same like in Christianity) , extreme over moderate to enlightened and progressive.
The problems arising the last couple of years are mostly due to the fast rising influence of Wahabism which has its origins in S. Arabia and because they have large funds available they support/influence a lot of Muslim community's in several parts of the world (schools/mosques/etc..).
Unfortunately for Muslims all over the world their influence is strengthening all over Islam community , most certainly in the easy target places (poor and underdeveloped) like Nigeria/Afghanistan/Pakistan/and more places in
It has even come so far that all funding coming from "fellow/brother" Wahabism-inspired organizations to some Islam community's in certain African regions (some in Tanzania IIRC) are refused because they fear the negative hard line influence that comes with it.
A lot of mosques in mainland Europe were (maybe still are) funded by these organizations and also started preaching some pretty hard line stuff.
Things won't change overnight because Wahabism and the house of Saoed are heavily intertwined.
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12152 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1842 times:
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 3): They tried that centuries ago and got their butts kicked.
Somebody in another thread made a valid point. Islam is several hundred years younger than Christianity, so what we did back then, they are doing now. Only thing is that while we know better, they don't
Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1804 times:
The thing that really annoys the cr@p out of me is that they can say what they want about killing white people and destroying the west, and nothing is done or said about it yet we say one word against them then out comes the race card !.
Hypocrites the lot of them !.
"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7937 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1772 times:
CNN International just had a special report on extremist leaders in the UK...many of whom are UK nationals and are as full of shit as they come. One even insisted that Shar'ia law should replace the current British system because it's too corrupt.
If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
Scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11973 posts, RR: 48
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1756 times:
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 3): And yet, the Saudis continue to be trumpeted as our best buddies.
Hmm, I wonder why?
We do have free speech in the UK. However, there are laws against inciting racial violence. If he continues he's likely to find himself the wrong side of some metal bars. Ask his namesake Abu Hamza (aka The Hook) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6191966.stm
Hey AA, the 1960s called. They want their planes back!
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5949 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1677 times:
Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 12): Send him to Guantanamo! He'll be yelling more bullshit on the waterboard at Gitmo than he ever dreamed he could in the mosque!
There was a great article in the American Legion magazine, about a year ago, about Gitmo. It was 180 out of the traditional news usually heard about that place. The prisoners held there are not friendly to any nation. There seems to be a crowd of people that want those people released, but few if any countries want to take those people in.
Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 15): I think it's quite fortunate, though, that the vast majority of Muslims in America are not radicalized.
They need to speak out against the radicals, but they don't.
Quoting Leezyjet (Reply 8): nothing is done or said about it yet we say one word against them then out comes the race card !.
That is odd. One word against blacks, jews, hispanics, etc and I lose my job. The Muslim crowd speaks against me and it is called diversity.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13034 posts, RR: 78
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1580 times:
Even deporting foreign nationals is very hard for the UK Government, since if their (army of) lawyers, often white, Christian middle class females-who would not have a career in the society these nutjobs wish for, can show they might be under threat of abuse back home, they'll not get deported.
Only in rare cases do we get rid of them, or get to lock them up. Abu Hamza is an exception.
Another prick who lived here on benefits for years with his extended family, fled to Lebanon just before he got his collar felt, but when the war happened there last year, he actually turned up at the port, begging British service personnel to be allowed on the RN ships evacuating UK nationals and dependants to the UK. Back to this 'toilet' as they often call it.
The camera did not pick up the exact response to his whining pleas, but I'd guess the second of two words said him was 'off'.
Did not stop his hateful activities though, due to the 'wonders' on the internet.
For years, any story on Saudi Arabia, had a Saudi 'dissident', respectable in his suit, wheeled into the TV studios to comment.
Now? Safe from deportation, he helps to make bloody jihadist internet material, safe in 'Londonstan'.
Writer Martin Amis had it right, returning to the UK, he noted the flock of affluent British Bien Peasents, on demos about the admittedly wrong Israeli attack on Lebanon last year, with banners saying 'We are all Hizzbolla now'.
'Enjoy it while you can' wrote Amis, since he noted that when asked what they wanted from the West, a spokesman for that group repiled, 'nothing, only your destruction'.
I hate these sort more than the actual Islamists.
George Galloway? A modern day Oswald Mosely, with his 'Respect' party (a nightmare of old hard leftists, who at least belived in womens and gay right once, before bedding down with Islamists-who do not think this way), this party is the modern version of Mosely's 1930's British Union of Facists, the British Union Of Islamofascists being a more apt name for 'Respect'.
Some blame the UK's adoptation of the European 'Human Rights Act', rubbish, other EU members are signed up to this too, but France in particular has no problems showing these 'preachers' the door.
But the real victims of these bums, is of course, the majority peaceful Muslim community.