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Hillary Clinton: I'm In  
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7949 posts, RR: 12
Posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2739 times:

What? Are you Americans still asleep?
This move was to be expected, I think.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/20/clinton.announcement/index.html


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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2734 times:
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I'm shocked! Shocked I say! She said she wanted to be Senator!

This has been coming since 1992. I already plan on voting in the Democratic primary against her.



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User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20496 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

Interesting that her announcement comes on Inauguration Day.


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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2724 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 1):
This has been coming since 1992. I already plan on voting in the Democratic primary against her

Don't bother  Wink  Wink  Wink

There are so many of us real democrats who can't stand her that we will bounce her out!

I just can not stand that woman. I really don't know what I will do if she moves into the general election in '08.


User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3704 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2722 times:
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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Thread starter):
Hillary Clinton: I'm In

Thank God you aren't allowed to vote here.

Quoting NoUFO (Thread starter):
This move was to be expected, I think.

Of course it was. All she has ever wanted is to be President. So it comes as no surprise that she has continued to lie to the public and say all she is interested in is serving as the junior Senator from the state of New York and then pull this one on everyone.

I personally have no desire to see her as the President nor do I want to see another free spending NeoCon Republican either. Let's just see how she does in the primaries since she has tried to make herself out to be a moderate when the primary system lends itself to the core left in the Democratic Party. She may not even make it out of them to the nomination.



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7949 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2709 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 3):
There are so many of us real democrats who can't stand her that we will bounce her out!

Having no opinon on her, and generally letting elections in the respective country (yes, I don't hate Pres. Bush, I just don't agree with most of what he has done so far, but if Americans want him - so be it), I wonder why this woman is so highly polarzing.
Does your refusal to support her base on decisions she made as NY's Senator, or is is more a general feeling?



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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

So Hillary Clinton is seeking a third term then?

User currently offlineAA787823 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

There is NO WAY she will win even the primary. The Clintons have way too much dirty laundry, no one trusts them. IF GWB COULD dun again it would be a land slide victory. Otherwise my guess is Jeb Bush will be our next president.

User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

Quoting AA787823 (Reply 8):
There is NO WAY she will win even the primary.

She'll win some but enough for the nomination? I'm still unsure about this one.

Quoting AA787823 (Reply 8):
The Clintons have way too much dirty laundry, no one trusts them.

Dirty laundry, yes. Trust? Ever hear of Friends of Bill? They have a huge following (scary in itself  Wink )that will get out to support her. The question that remains is will that be enough to counteract her negatives.

Quoting AA787823 (Reply 8):
IF GWB COULD dun again it would be a land slide victory.

Well let's not not start talking crazy. Even I know he wouldn't get reelected if he could have a third term.

Quoting AA787823 (Reply 8):
my guess is Jeb Bush will be our next president.

Not going to happen in 2008. Perhaps 2012 but not this cycle.

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 6):
I wonder why this woman is so highly polarzing.

Because she is a flat out liar. She plays to the role of being a moderate but deep down inside (no matter what N1102A is going to chime in here with later on) she is a socialist to the core. She has disdain for the common American and thinks that she knows better what we need to do with our lives than we do.

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 6):
Does your refusal to support her base on decisions she made as NY's Senator, or is is more a general feeling?

I can't speak for DTW but I don't support her because of her opinions and poisitions she has taken on health care, individual rights, and many other things. It's not so much a general feeling but just not liking her record and opinions.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):
Thank God you aren't allowed to vote here.

I just realized that your thread title was her words about entering the race and not you throwing support towards her. sorry about the jab about you not being able to vote here...unless of course you would vote for her.  Wink



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User currently offlineCptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

Not particularly interesting as it's been obviously coming. What WILL be interesting (perhaps even fun) though, is the upcoming campaign rivalry between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barak Hussein Obama for the party nomination.

I, as many of you have expressed here, don't give the former a good chance of winning the election if nominated (because she is so polarizing), and don't give the latter a chance either because he's so "liberal" and, rightly or wrongly, because of his name, not his skin color.

Regards...jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7949 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 9):
I just realized that your thread title was her words about entering the race and not you throwing support towards her.

Ah, that's why ...  Silly
I honestly have no opinion on her, other that she sometimes seems (!) to be a bit on the arrogant side. At the same time she seems (!) to have high work ethics.

Other than that she studied the German health care system (mix of socialized and private health care), I have to admit I know very little about her.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Thread starter):
Hillary Clinton: I'm In  

Cadet57: Im out

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 4):
Hillary Clinton: I'm In  

  

[Edited 2007-01-20 17:04:18]


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User currently offlineN174UA From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

Quoting AA787823 (Reply 8):
IF GWB COULD dun again it would be a land slide victory.

Ahhh...no. Too many conservatives and independents would sit out the election. A lot of people of deserted Bush, and I suspect he will be quiet for a long time after he leaves DC.

I'm leaning McCain as of now, but I will listen to the others. I'm not sold on Romney, don't care for Rudy or Senator Smiley (Edwards) and I'm curious to learn more about Obama. I'm hoping for a moderate, as are most others.

As for the primary, I will vote against Hilary.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

Hell hath no fury like Republicans when they here the name "Clinton".

I'd love to see her win, just to drive all of you guys absolutely, freaking nuts for at least 4 years.


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9328 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 4):

Throwing stones in a glass house, yes?

Quoting NoUFO (Thread starter):

Iowa's becoming a lot of fun as of lately.



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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8002 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

YAWN.  yawn 

Everybody but the kitchen sink (to use the American English expression) knew Senator Clinton was going to run--oh, as far back as 2003!


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Thread starter):
What? Are you Americans still asleep?
This move was to be expected, I think.

Yes, it was telegraphed.

What surprises me is that Sen. Hillary might be afraid of Sen. Obama's taking an early lead. She shouldn't.

Is her move now pre-emptive? Possibly!


User currently offlineDoor5Right From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 707 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

God help America. God help the world.


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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Indeed. If Sen. Hillary becomes President -- as it appears she will -- then there will be probably be vacillation in our foreign policy.

Now that she has announced her intentions, many of us look forward to her platform -- with trepidation!


User currently offlineGarri767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

im not leaning towards mcain or jeb bush at the moment....im leaning towards anyone thats against Hilary! Man she has issues.....






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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

I'm not impressed by the Republican slate, either.

But to oppose Sen. Clinton, we must know her platform. Would it include, for example, massive cuts in defense?

Just because she says she's in, it doesn't mean that the story is over, I'm sure you would agree. The story has just begun.


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7949 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 15):
Iowa's becoming a lot of fun as of lately.

Sorry?



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9328 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 22):

First caucuses.



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 4):

Reminds me of this.

http://www.loyno.edu/~jpkutner/pictures/snapshots/bush_monkey3.gif


25 AsstChiefMark : The likelihood of America electing another Bush has to rank up there with electing another person named Nixon. Mark
26 AerospaceFan : I agree. People are tired of the Bush family, and while I wouldn't have said it a year ago, I am now no longer interested in the prospects for Jeb Bus
27 Post contains links and images AirTran737 :
28 N174UA : Guilty by association...unfortunate, but true. But then again...America may not elect this Clinton because of another President named Clinton...so it
29 PPVRA : If she wins, would it be Mrs. President or Ms. President? Would Bill move in with her? Afaik they weren't living together. . .??
30 SlamClick : Some personal predictions: Jeb Bush - already peaked and the name is tainted. Cold day in hell before he'll see national elected office. John McCain -
31 AerospaceFan : Bill would be First Gentleman, and she would be Madame President, I believe.
32 AeroWesty : Madame President. They live together in Chappaqua, NY.
33 AerospaceFan : Actually, who gives a fudge whether they lived together? The question is her platform. People-magazine stuff is trivial to consider.
34 ME AVN FAN : - Shocked ? she says it is just a committee to find out about it. She of course will be ready to rescue the nation ---- include you ! - - of course !
35 AirTran737 : As much as we like to think we have progressed in this country Obama cant win, and it's because of the color of his skin. Is it wrong? Yes. Is it the
36 AerospaceFan : I wouldn't support Sen. Obama, but not because he's black (actually, half-black), but because of inexperience, and because he might be an extreme lib
37 N174UA : I think McCain has the best chance of any of them. Kerry and Gore were to extreme, and that's why they lost. So what about an Iraq war veteran in 10-
38 AirTran737 : But as Aerospace said he is extremely liberal. The GOP will hammer him on the issue of drug use in the past (yes I'm aware that GW loves coke). I thi
39 SlamClick : It has nothing to do with "spin" at all. She has provided critics with all the ammunition they would ever need during her many years in the public ey
40 AeroWesty : This thread is about Sen. Clinton. Let's try to keep it that way. Thank you.
41 L-188 : I can see a really ugly democrat primary. That will hopefully show people the ugly side of that party in 2008.
42 Post contains links AirTran737 : Ok. I believe she has a political ideology that has its roots in Marxism. In her formative years, Marxism was a very important part of her ideology..
43 STLGph : There's no ugly side. Prada is officially sponsoring the 2008 Democratic Primaries.
44 Dtwclipper : She was a Goldwater Republican in her "formative" years and worked as a as a "Goldwater Girl" in 1964!
45 L-188 : And then like Anikan Skywalker she was overtaken by the power of the Dark Side.
46 Post contains images Dtwclipper :
47 AirCop : Good point.. Personally, I don't see her getting elected, and when American finally gets a female president, it will be because a woman was Vice-Pres
48 Post contains images Dtwclipper : That is true...I would love to see the Constitution changed and run Michigan Govenor Jennifer Granholm as a Democratic candidate. However that would
49 L-188 : I know this is supposed to be about Hilliary, but that does make me wonder if the Republicans won't try and pick up Palin for vp in 08.
50 AirCop : Correct, and history shows up how effective Harding was. Senators don't make executive decisions, and they have a voting record which is used against
51 AirTran737 : No. I am watching Granholm ruin my great state, and don't want that Canadian anywhere near being a possible presidential candidate.
52 Dtwclipper : Don't want to go to far off topic, but Granholm has done a great job working with what she has. If you want to talk about her, let's open a thread on
53 Connies4ever : I'm not allowed to vote, but if permitted I would support her. America could use a President who can actually speak in complete sentences. And the Bu
54 L-188 : Is that why your former PM was tossed out?
55 Post contains images Connies4ever : on Granholm. Too bad she can't run for the White House.
56 AerospaceFan : So neither the President nor Sen. Clinton can speak in complete sentences? Come now; surely you cannot mean this.
57 Connies4ever : Senator Clinton can not only speak in complete sentences, unlike the current President, she can _think_ in them. Being smart is an attractive quality
58 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : His "inexperience" is exactly why we should strongly consider someone like him. I'm sick of most of the "professional politicians" running Washington
59 DeltaGator : If your only reason for voting for her (if you could, which you can't) is because you think speaking in complete sentences is all that is required of
60 Captaink : I wasn't aware that the 2008 elections was going to be so exciting. Lets see how it goes.
61 Post contains images Falcon84 : Probably not. If you've watched since she became a Senator, AF, she's been a strong proponent of the military. She visits the troops where they are a
62 Chi-town : IM OUT!!! FUCK NO! Obama or Clinton
63 Post contains links and images FlyDeltaJets87 : Exactly what you stated: she WAS a Republican. Her views have OBVIOUSLY changed since then. Falcon is dismissed from English 101. He shows he cannot
64 Post contains images Klima : She's far too polarizing of a figure and, at the moment, the last thing this nation needs is another president who will completely polarize the count
65 L410Turbolet : If either one of them gets elected... how hard would they have to try for their presidency to be at least half the disgrace and disaster Bush's presi
66 Post contains images Allstarflyer : Huh . . hmm . . wha . . ? Wha . . rr . . really? Huh . . musta . . musta been sleepin' . Another Bush vs. Clinton? Ha . . . ha . heheh... he.. er, uh
67 Cba : Keep telling yourself that. That's why his ratings are so high right now... Gore lost due to a hiccup in Florida. Kerry lost basically due to the Swi
68 Jaysit : If Boston can take Roger Clemens back, then America can put Hillary Clinton in the White House.
69 AirCop : But really, what has Clinton accomplished in the Senate, wasn't able to due to the fact that the Republicans muzzled the opposition. Now check out Ka
70 AerospaceFan : Maybe, but has she attracted particular attention for her efforts, and how many bills has she proposed? I don't think very many. I wonder if this is
71 AirTran737 : Well I haven't seen him in a Red Sux uniform since Dan Duquette famously pronounced the pitcher to be in "the twilight of his career." and let him wa
72 EmiratesA345 : Surely she can't be any worose than what they've got now? If I were an American citizen, I'd vote Hilary 2008! Mark
73 AerospaceFan : Not all of us think that this is the worst President ever.
74 Post contains images JpetekYXMD80 : At what point did anyone in this thread declare GWB the worst President ever?
75 Dtwclipper : I will. GWB is the worst President ever.
76 AerospaceFan : What about Warren G. Harding? Herbert Hoover? In any event, one issue surrounds whether Sen. Clinton's platform would be significantly different in t
77 Allstarflyer : A lot of people think he was doomed to fail, due to Coolidge's measures. -R
78 STLGph : I'll go with that. And I'm excited that Hillary's going to shake things up. And I'm excited that this thread is exposing a lot of shovanists. And I'm
79 LTU932 : I like the sound of that. It sounds much better than "Frau Bundespräsidentin", which would have been used to address the president had Germany elect
80 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Interesting point; I'll have to look into it. The association with President Hoover is unmistakeable, but was he a victim of circumstances? By popula
81 DeltaGator : Example? Oh, learn to spell. I thought you were a respected journalist. Oh boy, let's all get in a big tizzy. I bet you won't get within 25 feet of h
82 Klima : It would be foolish of voters to elect her and then not reelect her because of "baggage" that was there before she even became president. It just doe
83 AerospaceFan : Thank you for your comment. Perhaps I should be clear: It would be the baggage that she would carry from nearly four years of trying to pass her bill
84 Post contains images DL021 : OK....so the likelihood of HRC becoming President is less or greater than Jeb Bush? I'm wondering who is going to be the VP candidate with McCain, who
85 Post contains links and images FlyDeltaJets87 : Some well backed opinions there. *sarcasm* Not as exciting as getting to meet Colin Powell, which I did this week.
86 Post contains images Cadet57 : Wait, did I touch a nerve? Oh im sorry. Maybe I didn't realize there are some people who like her... lol
87 AerospaceFan : Much greater, I think, in the next four years. That's a good question. It will depend on part on how the field shakes out. In 2004, John Kerry took f
88 FlyDeltaJets87 : Did Gore do the same with Leiberman? I don't remember if Leiberman ran for President in 2000 or not.
89 AerospaceFan : No, he did not. Vice President Gore was widely seen as a favorite at the time and the field wasn't very large.
90 J_Hallgren : When I heard her announcement today on news, the song that entered my head immediately was one by Elton John: "The Bitch Is Back"... Plus...Her voice
91 AerospaceFan : Mrs. Clinton will very carefully distance herself from not only her husband, but the leftmost part of her party, until she is elected. I think that he
92 ZRH : Do you really believe in that? In which world are you living? Obviously GWB is the most stupid, criminal and worst president the US ever had. Anybody
93 Falcon84 : Greater than. Much greater, Ian. For one reason, if only one: Mrs. Clinton is running. Mr. Bush will not be. How do I fail English101. AF said she ha
94 AerospaceFan : I don't remember saying this. Please state your source.
95 LOT767-300ER : Democrats who ruined/rule over or are from Chicago -Hillary Clinton -Barack O'Bama -Rod Blagojevich -Richard Daley -Jesse Jackson Nice one Chi-Town..
96 Post contains images FlyDeltaJets87 : By not ending that with a question mark. You sure it was AerospaceFan? You want to read back up and check the quotes there? Damn. I knew thinking tha
97 Post contains images Fumanchewd : She certainly is "in". While many celebrities are donning the likes of Versace and Armani, Hillary has been touring her way into America's hearts wear
98 AerospaceFan : Sen. Obama should be a sideshow next to Sen. Clinton. The media have made the gentleman from Illinois out to be far more than he is. He is not qualifi
99 SlamClick : And semi-literates. It is spelled C-H-A-U-V-I-N-I-S-T And that pretty much shows how little you read.
100 LOT767-300ER : At first I thought it was some Slovakian name that I was reading. Then I realized he wanted to spell Chauvinist...hehe
101 Post contains images Allstarflyer : And then there are those of us who are informed. Changed "his" mind, dude? -R
102 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : - all depends on YOUR position. To me, both are middle-of-the-road-liberals, while Jesse Jackson clearly IS a leftist (extreme liberal by your terms)
103 AerospaceFan : Yes. Politics is often in the eye of the beholder. There are many people who would consider some of my opinions liberal, too. For example, I believe
104 Post contains images Falcon84 : You mean, like President Bush did in Iraq? Again, go to a dictionary, AF, look under the letter "H", and near the end of that section, you'll find a
105 DL021 : Are you serious? She's simply waiting for the polls to tell her which way the wind blows. That way she can tell you what you want to hear, rather tha
106 UALPHLCS : This is the best news for the Republican party since Ronald Reagan ran in 1980.
107 STLGph : just look back over the past 6 years. been there. done that twice. Chicago has the best politicians ever! love 'em! oh well. just got caught up in wo
108 Falcon84 : It won't be the best news for the GOP no matter what, UALPHLCS, unless Iraq turns around in the next year. It won't matter one bit. That will be the
109 AerospaceFan : I think that everyone should hold their horses about Iraq. I have no reason to hope that Iraq should turn out badly whether it's the GOP or the Democ
110 PanAmOldDC8 : Can't stand the woman, she is trying to get even with Bill for what he did to her and to show him she is just as good a man
111 AirTran737 : Dear God I hope you are joking. Mayor Daley and friends are the catalyst of corrupt politicians.
112 Falcon84 : I agree with that assessment, believe it or not. But that is not the point-the point is this: if Iraq continues to flounder through all of '07, and t
113 AerospaceFan : Surprisingly, I think that she is perhaps the best of the bunch who are likely to run under the Democratic ticket.
114 STLGph : Of course not. I realize most of you are in a tizzy over that whole little airport thing ... and for the fact you're just biased against Democrats (a
115 Post contains images Turbo7x7 : A word of warning to all the Hillary haters out there. Do NOT underestimate this woman's appeal! I work in IT, in a 50-story office building in NYC. T
116 Fumanchewd : Nobody else has either. Not Obama, or Bush, or Oprah. I respect that she is open minded to other people's ideas. A good leader is looking for all opt
117 SlamClick : You need say no more. The people who work in the heart of the large cities, the middlemen who perform no actual service except administrative and fin
118 AerospaceFan : I, too, have high expectations that she will win, and for similar reasons.
119 SlamClick : Ahh, that myth. Do you mean the Black Oprah who shows up when she has a prominent African American on the show or the white Oprah who brags about pay
120 Yellowstone : I find the comments that Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama might be extreme liberals laughable. Let's face it, there really aren't that many strong libe
121 NAV20 : That's the interesting question to me - how many women (not just Dems) will vote for Hillary purely because she's a woman? Must confess, I can't stan
122 L-188 : You must have missed today's announcement that she wants to bring back Hillarycare
123 AerospaceFan : This was a better argument, I think, before the Democrats began showing their true colors. For example, today, Joseph Biden began showing just what h
124 Post contains images Turbo7x7 : Touchy now aren't we? No need to be so bitter and resentful! As for lives "utterly dependent" methinks it's the OTHER way around. The rich blue state
125 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Oh, I doubt that there's a "male right-wing crowd" that dominates this Forum, though. I can't speak for the entire Website. Anyway, you're right: HRC
126 LOT767-300ER : Perhaps thats why you come from STL. A city that is only rivaled by Detroit and Memphis You are one of the following choices if you support Daley. A.
127 AerospaceFan : ^^ I wonder why it is that, as you imply, certain groups predominately support certain people with certain ideas? Shouldn't it be true that any ethnic
128 UALPHLCS : You keep thinking that. I hope she wins the party nomination. No one is more polarizing thean Hillary. No amount of spin can cover what she has said
129 Baroque : Phew, I was beginning to wonder exactly what a liberal might be. Clearly my view would not be that of the majority here. Or is there some sort of pol
130 Post contains images NAV20 : With respect, Turbo7x7, the reason I don't like her is the one I stated. If I lived and voted in the USA I would certainly vote straight Democrat. My
131 AerospaceFan : I think that it remains to be seen whether history will judge our era the way that either the right or the left desire it to be. We're living in an a
132 Baroque : Well that is the BIG question. 1938(ish) to 1945 we WERE living in an age of war. Now we have been DEFINED to be living in an age of war. This is not
133 AerospaceFan : I don't think that this accounts for the fact that every day is like war for our special law enforcement and intelligence forces here in America, bec
134 Post contains images Turbo7x7 : Yep, we're trying the conventional war/occupation thing now and things are not going swimmingly so I suspect the next Pres, whether Dem or GOP, will
135 Post contains images SlamClick : No, just emphatic. You talk about a bunch of people who live and work in big cities as if it is a broad sampling of the American population. That dem
136 RJpieces : Haven't read all of the posts here, but I would not discount the massive advantage that Hillary Clinton will have in having Bill campaign for her. Bil
137 Post contains images Swatpamike : Hello All OK boys, better buy all those guns you wanted before 2008. Especially if you wanted a 50cal. Cheers swatpamike
138 Post contains images Turbo7x7 : Au contraire my friend, au contraire (does my use of prissy French words anger you even more ). This is why I won't even bother to read the rest of y
139 Post contains images SlamClick : You quote the last line and then say you won't read the post? Do you always read from the bottom up? mais non, mon ami you have been drinking the lef
140 AerospaceFan : RJPieces made a very important point: There is an increasing number of people who are wistful for the days before terrorism, which they (wrongly, I th
141 SESGDL : I will, or whoever the democratic nominee is, be it Obama, Clinton, or Edwards; but living in America these past seven years has shown me that we are
142 Jaysit : I disagree. There are always going to be people who are racist and sexist and won't vote for a racial minority or a woman, but those people are way o
143 Post contains images Queso :
144 Post contains images Superfly : Great observation! I would only want Hillary Rodham Clinton to win to PISS OFF those I really can't stand. I never understood why so many people hate
145 SESGDL : I completely agree. Jeremy
146 Post contains images Turbo7x7 : Sir, I skimmed through your post as I do with any other and what stood out what was your foaming-at-the-mouth assertion that "everything that is bad
147 Baroque : It does certainly have aspects of trying to beat the little buggers. Sadly for the US, and happily for the EU (and wherever else) you are probably ri
148 SlamClick : You use phrases like these... ...to describe my post. Let's take a look at the foaming-at-the-mouth, outrageous, irrational blanket statements" in you
149 Jaysit : Yeah, but when Dubya ran against Gore and Snoozerman back in 2000, he was running against Bill Clinton and Monicagate. What goes around comes around
150 SlamClick : "DEAD HORSE REVIVED BY RELENTLESS FLOGGING" - National Enquirer headline Somebody drive a stake in this thread's heart.
151 Jaysit : Are you serious? This is just the tip of the iceberg. Get ready for 2 long years of "HRC running for President" debates on the internet.
152 Connies4ever : It will be interesting, that's for sure, with HRC in the race. Even her opponents would most likely concede she is smart and tough, and pretty well-or
153 Cs03 : HRC running for President certainly will be "in the news" from now until the Democratic Convention. ABC News gave her (and her campaign), lots of free
154 SlamClick : If this is a disqualifier then Senator Robert Byrd must be a shoe-in, right? Frankly I've been mulling this "lack of experience" issue and I'm not su
155 Connies4ever : Quite right ! Byrd has been around since Hector was a pup. Heck, he's older than me... Politics is about delivering at least half a loaf, you almost
156 ANCFlyer : This thread has gone on and off topic so much, and it would take an enormous amount of time to clean up. Such an effort would gut the thread. Rather t
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