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User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 885 times:

Guess who said this and when. Bonus if you get what they are talking about.

That would have been a worthy mission for the United States. But now -- why, we have got into a mess, a quagmire from which each fresh step renders the difficulty of extrication immensely greater. I'm sure I wish I could see what we were getting out of it, and all it means to us as a nation."

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User currently offlineSwatpamike From United States of America, joined May 2004, 581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 876 times:

Hello All

This one should be easy.

But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour."

Cheers

swatpamike


User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 852 times:

Quoting Swatpamike (Reply 1):
This one should be easy.

I'll take a wild stb in the dark:

Winston Churchill


User currently offlineXjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2471 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 845 times:

Amy Kaplan...but i dont agree with what she is talking about. that being the us invasion of iraq.


XJR

edit...me thinking about three different things at the same time. ....the comparison of the invasion of iraq and the liberation of the phillipines back in 1890s

[Edited 2007-01-22 21:11:17]


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User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 824 times:

Quoting Xjramper (Reply 3):

Close. But I'm not telling yet.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 821 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Thread starter):
That would have been a worthy mission for the United States. But now -- why, we have got into a mess, a quagmire from which each fresh step renders the difficulty of extrication immensely greater. I'm sure I wish I could see what we were getting out of it, and all it means to us as a nation."

Woodrow Wilson talking about WWI.

Mark

[Edited 2007-01-22 22:26:21]

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11689 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 821 times:

Mark Twain ... I think - but that's digging right to the back of my head from History lectures a long time ago! Something to do with early American Foreign policy, I forget where though.

Dan Smile



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User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 812 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 6):
Mark Twain

Ding Ding Ding....

Now what was he talking about. American Foreign Policy is a bit too broad.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11689 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 807 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 7):
Now what was he talking about. American Foreign Policy is a bit too broad.

Aw gawd, lol! It was somewhere in Asia, not Vietnam, too late; so I'd say possibly China or Japan in the early years of the C20th, from an educated guess, but none of those seem familiar so I am not sure. Two years of reading about plants seems to have depleted my historical knowledge! silly 

Dan Smile



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User currently offlineUALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 795 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 8):

Actually Xjramper was close on the topic.

Twain was speaking about the Philippine Insurrection 1898-1902.

It's similarities to the current Iraq Insurrection are striking. As well as the differences.

The US won the first war against one organized enemy only to find itself fighting over the same territory with Insurgents.

It was fought with a mixture of Active and reserve units.

US Casualties were around 5000.

Civilian casualties were exponentially higher.

It was generally opposed by the American public.

For all its parallels there are some major differences:

The war in the Philippines was for Empire. Iraq is not.

The war in the Philippines was against a single Insurgent force fighting for Philippine Independence.

Filipinos were not generally killing one another.

Sometimes the Philippine Insurrection is grouped with the Moro Insurrection which ran concurrently and lasted until 1913. BTW the Moro insurgents were Muslim.

Anyway, I just thought I share that quote with you all.

I'm doing some scholarly work on the Philippine Insurrection, as it compares and contrasts with current events. As you can imagine their isn't alot on the Insurrection. i'm only just beginning the work as well. but I ran across that quote and thought it would be fun to share, not matter what you think of the war.


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 789 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 9):
the Moro Insurrection

So where is John M. Browning when you need him?



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11689 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 785 times:

Quoting UALPHLCS (Reply 9):
Anyway, I just thought I share that quote with you all.

Very interesting, thank you! I needed to head a little South East with my guess, and yes I can accept many of those similarities between the conflict you describe and the current situation in Iraq. I hope calm prevails soon.

Dan Smile



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