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Official F1 Thread: Let The Pre-Season Begin!  
User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5050 times:

Winter Thread

As requested, Here is the Pre-Season thread!

Recent News:
Renault Announce R27 in ING Livery!
Abu Dhabi In Frame For 2009 GP
Kimi Makes Ferrari Testing Debut!
Webber Sure Of Strong RBR Year

ENJOY!

[Edited 2007-01-24 15:18:30]

[Edited 2007-01-24 15:20:01]


Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5047 times:

EDIT: sorry just seen the reply, you'd linked to the wrong thread, leading me to think you were creating V2. Anyway I dont think i like that renault. Looks like a billboard now. Yuck

Rgds --James--

[Edited 2007-01-24 15:18:00]


You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5040 times:

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 1):
Looks like a billboard now.

Thats the idea... Cos thats what it is...



Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5034 times:

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 2):

Thats the idea... Cos thats what it is...

Yup. They look a lot better for it too. The cars in just plain colours look bland.

Remember the sponsorless Ferrari with the black nose they ran at the Italian GP after 9/11?

That was awful (I know it was done to show their respect, but, I'm talking aesthetically).

Adam


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5032 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 3):
Remember the sponsorless Ferrari with the black nose they ran at the Italian GP after 9/11?

That was awful (I know it was done to show their respect, but, I'm talking aesthetically).

Just found a photo...
http://www.suttonimages.com/fotoweb/...9103D142C2F3F5403C687F1F385525798D

The Ferrari looks different 6 years on!

Nice!
http://www.suttonimages.com/fotoweb/...9103D142C2F3F5403C687F1F385525798D  Wink

Adam


User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 4):
Nice!

All saggy and wrinkley! Looks like a set that Cornish would be happy with! Just give me Bernies wife any day of the week!  Wink



Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5021 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 4):

God i remember that horrible nose! What did the sponsors have to say about them not running them?

Rgds --James--



You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5002 times:

God, that Renault looks like the the Benetton liver from the early 90s, except the colors are different. In other news, I think Ferrari is gonna do brillinat this year, theyve got the great drivers now, and I dont think mcClaren is gonna be able to pull together a good enough car for Alonso to win substnatial amounts.

Cheers,
Kyle

PS - Anyone going to the USGP? My 4th time!!

PPS - What signatures do you have, I have Schumi, Massa, and Brawn (all on 1 hat brag brag brag), i have coulthard twice i think, ron dennis twice, nick heidfeld, hell, i have way too many. Id need to look again.


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

The new Renault looks just like the interim one except the blank blue spots have been filled in with ING logos.

Also the new Honda and Red Bull have had their first runs. The new Honda is due to be launched on tomorrow (or today depending on where you are) and
the RBR on Friday.

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070124193019.shtml


User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4997 times:

How do you think the Nuey designed RB is gonna be this year?

User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4991 times:

Quoting Speedbird747BA (Reply 9):
How do you think the Nuey designed RB is gonna be this year?

"Best of the Rest" Between Honda and BMW Sauber is my bet...


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4985 times:

The Newey car will spring some surprises, grab the odd podium, but won't trouble McLaren, Renault and Ferrari. To be honest, I think 2007 is going to be one of the most unpredictable seasons in recent history. You've got big changes at all the big teams, which may or may not work. I think you could see some odd race winners in 2007 and more of them than recent years. Or I could be wrong and one team will dominate leaving the rest to ponder where it all went wrong.

User currently offlineHKGKaiTak From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4978 times:

Ewwww, that Renault livery looks a bit wrong, nowhere near as elegant as Mild Seven blue with Renault yellow. However, orange and yellow aren't exactly easy colours to match on anything ...

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 11):
I think 2007 is going to be one of the most unpredictable seasons in recent history.

Let's hope so. I'll still stick my neck out and predict Kimi Raikkonen and Ferrari to be the World Champions.



4 Engines 4 LongHaul
User currently offlineMidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4975 times:

A brilliant idea! Fly EY out to AUH for the F1 Grand Prix!


"Cue the Circus Music!"
User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 39
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4961 times:

Nice Renault livery but as many have suggested, I too will miss the old blue and yellow livery. That old livery has become one of the major parts of Formula 1 in recent years, like the ferrari red.

Can't wait to see the new Honda livery now (hoping for green and white  pray  ).

I hate to admit this, but we're in for another Ferrari dominant season  Sad ....

..........unless McLaren have pulled their act together and Heike and Fisi can perform well.



Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4960 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 14):
I hate to admit this, but we're in for another Ferrari dominant season

I don't know. Their technical group has been shaken up and if Kimi is as bad at developing the car as they claim he is, they might be in for a diffuclt season.

There really is no clear favourite.


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4955 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 15):
I don't know. Their technical group has been shaken up and if Kimi is as bad at developing the car as they claim he is, they might be in for a diffuclt season.

They still have Massa who is a good tester, and Luca Badoer(???). As long as Kimi puts the performance's in during the races then Ferrari are flying. Honda could be an extremely dark horse  Silly



Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4955 times:

I'm placing my money on Kimi and Ferrari to win the WDC and CC in 2007. It sounds as if the team needs a driver that attacks the race-circuits and Kimi does this.


"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 2 days ago) and read 4944 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 16):
Honda could be an extremely dark horse

Or they could pull a Toyota and get stuck in the gates.


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4932 times:

Honda Launch the RA107.



The car is still in an interim livery, and its testing hasn't gotten off to a very good start

http://www.f1racing.net/en/news/2007...7_stops_in_button_s_first_lap_out/

Info about the launch
http://www.hondaracingf1.com/en/index.php?section=8&item=1769&type=1


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 39
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4928 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 19):
The car is still in an interim livery,

Phew, I nearly had a heart attack there for a second!

As for the testing problems, just early usual teething problems hopefully.



Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8443 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4925 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 20):
As for the testing problems, just early usual teething problems hopefully.

Apparently it's electrical. Barichello ran without problems yesterday.


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 39
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4925 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 21):
Apparently it's electrical. Barichello ran without problems yesterday.

I think electrical problems are easily sorted with abit of times. Mechanical problems cause alot more worries. Any word when the new livery will be revealed?



Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4916 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 19):
The car is still in an interim livery, and its testing hasn't gotten off to a very good start

Hopefully its Aero Package has yet to be updated... Its all very "Square"...



Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4908 times:

Can anyone post, 2006 cars in relation to 2007 cars?

I want to see what kind of changes have been made but can't seem to compare too well..

I know the Renault car has new Rear view mirrors...any they loook sweet.

Its going to be an exciting year. I personally hope that Button does well in the new Honda...I hope he does well.

GO F1!

Boo Nascar!
(and Montoya too  duck  )


25 Post contains links BA757 : It seems Hamilton has wrote off a new Mclaren already. Great start Lewis! http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=38335 Adam
26 Egmcman : Most of the new cars are longer because of revised safety regulations.
27 Post contains links and images Bill142 : Ferrari: 2006 2007 McLaren: 2006 2007 Renault: 2006 2007
28 BlueElephant : Thanks a lot! Is it just me, or is there almost no change in either the Ferrari or the Mercedes. I can hardly see a difference. The only 2 cars that
29 Bill142 : It's probably the angles. The McLaren has different shaped sidepods and has sprouted various aerodynamic bits. The front suspension on the Ferrari lo
30 Post contains images Nosedive : RBR:
31 Bill142 : Is that Christopher Walken on the left rear wheel?
32 Post contains links and images Nosedive : Too young, gotta be his clone. Doornbos to test Speed and 'Tonio look to have safe seats? More focus on the Renault mirrors... More on the RB3
33 Bill142 : The Renaly mirrors are most certainly unique.
34 Kaddyuk : I personally feel that the RB3 is the most asthetically pleasing car released all season.
35 Post contains images Jamesbuk : I also like the look of the ferrari, there's something there I just like about it. I used to like the look of the renualt, but they've ruined that lo
36 Duff44 : Former F1 drivers do well at the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona (plus some other names you might recognize): 1st Scott Pruett/Salvador Duran/Juan Pablo Mon
37 Post contains images Bill142 : You mean the new McLaren RBR Reanult?
38 Post contains images Kaddyuk : Time for some Pit-Babes! Ding Dang Doo!
39 Post contains images BA757 : That brunette on the Honda - nice! Adam
40 Sudden : Although not a F1 babe, the second from the top can come and hold my umbrella any time. Aim for the sky! Sudden
41 Post contains images Kaddyuk : I'm Sure That You Can Forgive Her!
42 Post contains images Sudden : Yep, no doubt about it! Aim for the sky! Sudden
43 Post contains links BA757 : http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=38361 He has a point? Adam
44 Post contains images BA757 : Just to make a contribution to the pit babes... Grabbed this one of the Fosters lasses at Imola last year. Shame you can't get any closer Adam
45 Post contains images Bill142 : A 600mm lens should do the trick I think she has qualfied on pole He does.
46 Kaddyuk : The ladies are alright, however the beer is SHIT!
47 Bill142 : That's why we send it all over to Europe. Signed Australia
48 Post contains links Nosedive : Williams says hell no to customer cars
49 Post contains images Sudden : Now that's funny! Aim for the sky! Sudden
50 Bill142 : And the FIA won't get involved untill the cars are presented for scruitineering. Melbourne is going to be a mess.
51 Post contains images Kaddyuk : It was a mess before mr williams said anything
52 Bill142 : Why do think everyone north of the border calls it Mexico?
53 Post contains images HKGKaiTak : Yeah Melbourne will be interesting to see what protests Williams et al might lodge ... but don't you think Mr E will sort this out before it turns Mel
54 Post contains images Sudden : The beer you don't have cause you exported it all to Europe. Aim for the sky! Sudden
55 Bill142 : No we import all your crap and send you all of ours. It's a win win for everyone. We're all under the illusion we're getting good beer.
56 Post contains images Sudden : We are basically both screwed then. Valencia Day 2: Alonso fastest again Alonso kept both Fisi a Kovalainen behind him. Testing is testing, but do yo
57 Bill142 : Fernando could be giving the engineers better feedback then Kimi and Juan Pablo did. The issues McLaren have had thus far appear to be minor and ones
58 Kaddyuk : Exactly, its very easy to set the car up for a fast run and let alonso run out with 3 laps worth of fuel on new tyres just to get to the top of the t
59 Sudden : Tyrrell also did this on a Friday practise (in Japan(?) ) to impress everybody as they were on their way out of F1. They clocked the highest top spee
60 Bill142 : I would have thought this was in violation of the rules unless they presented the cars for scrutineering on thursday in a legal trim and then changed
61 HKGKaiTak : The only column I read in testing is the "No of laps complete". I think that tells far more of a story about who's done what in testing than the timi
62 Waterpolodan : In Arrow's defense, they did consistently have the fastest car in a straight line for most of that season (2000, with the A21) despite an underpowere
63 Post contains links Kaddyuk : I've just started up an a.nut racing league... More Info Here... http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1517297/
64 Post contains links Sudden : The FW29 have now been launched. Lets see if they are able to get back up on the podium this season. http://www.formula1.com/news/5598.html Aim for th
65 Kaddyuk : It looks like they've gone all out on that nose of theirs... A Nice Aero package from Williams... I'm not so sure that they'll be as successful as th
66 Jamesbuk : Rgds --James--
67 Bill142 : That is true. I do believe that Verstappen holds the record for the fastest speed through the speed trap on the main straight at Monza.
68 Post contains links Jamesbuk : F1 grand prix in Abu Dhabi by 2009! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6327387.stm Rgds --James--[Edited 2007-02-03 19:06:50]
69 Post contains links Nosedive : Marco back in action for Honda This upcoming Wed and Thurs
70 Bill142 : So in the Middle East/Asia/AU could be looking like this in the next few years Australia (Melbourne, Albert Park) Singapore (Unconfirmed) Malaysia (Ku
71 Post contains images Duff44 : [rant] All deigned by Hermann Tilke, so they'll all be utterly flat & bland, and feature at least one impossibly long corner nobody can pass in, and w
72 Post contains images Nosedive : So.... "San Marino," and European, and gone. Spa's always on an on again off again relationship with the FIA. The USGP is far from certain, and I'd w
73 Post contains images HKGKaiTak : When you look at it this way it does seem like there's a hell of a lot of races in Asia ... you can argue that Japan and Australia are both "traditio
74 Post contains images Kaddyuk : My favourite track in the whole world is suzuka... The esses of corners 3 to 7 are amazing! To both watch and drive (in my driving sim anyways ) A For
75 Bill142 : On a global scale that would become costly don't you think? The new Concorde agreement allows for a 20 race schedule. The current one only allows for
76 GSM763 : Wouldn't moving all that stuff around every week cost a lot?
77 Kaddyuk : Grand Prix's make ALOT of money... Just pass some of that money onto the manufacturers and i'm pretty sure they'd be interested...!
78 Post contains links Nosedive : Exactly! So who is losing a race? UAE Track 3 straits and some tight turns....
79 Duff44 : Singapore, Korea, and UAE would all be new (the others are already on the schedule). The 2007 schedule is only 17 races, so in theory none of the cur
80 Bill142 : I didn't say anyone was losing a race. It could also be an idea to run Singapore/Malaysia and Abu Dhabi/Bahrain at opposite ends of the weekend.
81 Post contains images Duff44 : I'm not sure what you mean by that...
82 Nosedive : I didn't say you were. What I am saying is the current sch. will be maxed out here in a few yrs, and yet other GPs, (Russia, Mexico, India) want to j
83 Bill142 : Weekend = Season. End of the year. The next agreement runs from 2008 to 2012. The details of the agreement are pretty secret so it is possible that m
84 Nosedive : Ah, good to know, thanks.
85 Bill142 : Bernie is pushing for 20 races in 2009. Assuming Singapore joins next year and Imola returns with Abu Dhabi Joining, that brings us up to 20 races in
86 BA757 : Absolutely agree. It is time for a change and let someone else design a circuit for once. Has anyone forgiven him for bastardising Hockenheim yet? Ad
87 Post contains links and images BA757 : Spyker launches 2007 challenger Spyker F1 presented its 2007 car to the world’s motorsport media at Silverstone on Monday. The team, which has unde
88 Post contains images Cornish : But it seems a row may be brewing as they have named Super Aguri's Dutch test driver as one of THEIR test drivers !! Well I'm back after two weeks of
89 Post contains links BA757 : Quoting Cornish (Reply 88): Nigel Stepney now seemingly going Indeed, he seems quite upset at the internal restructuring of staff. Could this be the b
90 Kaddyuk : Conspiricy Theorists will conspire that there is a conspiricy when the ACTUAL conspiricy is that there IS no conspiricy...
91 Post contains links Mika : Here's some fun links in the pitbabe category: http://www.pitbabes.com/ Check out the 'Wives and girlfriends' section there, some interesting shots of
92 Bill142 : Head and Williams have failed to adapt to modern F1. They still have the garageist mindset which doesn't work in an F1 world dominated by the big man
93 Post contains images Duff44 : Nope.... and never will Talk about a shadow of it's former self...
94 BA757 : I know its only testing and too much shouldn't be read into the times but... surely Raikkonen isn't going to be impressed if Alonso or Hamilton starts
95 Kaddyuk : What if Honda start beating everyone? I've heard that they have yet to attatch all the Aero bells and whistles to their car. The nose, rear wing, und
96 Bill142 : And at the same time we hear about component theft from the above teams. Most teams will introduced completely new aero packages prior to Melbourne a
97 Post contains links Nosedive : Well said. Didn't Ferrari attach their 2006 wings to their 2007 car? More on Honda: "We've got work to do" Button Impressive, if that's the same engi
98 Bill142 : It is, as it's essentially 3 race distances.
99 Kaddyuk : They'd have to turn down the revs on that engine to improve life... This is probably the reason why button was 2 seconds off the pace...
100 Bill142 : That's a likely scenario. Depends on what they were testing, they may have wanted intentionally slow lap times.
101 Kaddyuk : Or they wanted to see what indications they get when they run an engine over increddibly long distances... I anticipate some VERY quick laps from but
102 Nosedive : Who all had revised engines by Suzuka? IIRC, the FIA rules mandated the frozen engines for 2007 must be raced twice in 2006, making Japan the thresho
103 Post contains links and images BA757 : A Big Dent To Coulthard's Bank Balance David Coulthard has been fined 500 euros (£360) by a Monaco court for injuring a passenger on a high-speed tou
104 Kaddyuk : ROFL...! I think its a bit stupid though, I mean if I get into a racing car I accept that if the car crashes I'm likely to get hurt... This woman doe
105 Bill142 : It wasn't a racing car. It was his company Mercedes (as he was driving for McLaren at the time). It was just DC trying to the player he wishe he was
106 Post contains images Kaddyuk : Okay perhaps i used the word quite liberally however if I get into a car that is going to drive as fast as possible round a race track, i accept that
107 Post contains images HKGKaiTak : Did this "woman passenger" try to get her hands on DC? And failed? And that's why she's suing?
108 Post contains links Sudden : Folks, Have anybody else read the following about Eddie Irvine, "He has been linked to a future role at the Spyker MF1 Racing Formula One team." http:
109 Post contains links Kaddyuk : Massa: BMW is the team to beat Source: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=38463 Felipe Massa believes BMW Sauber currently has the car to b
110 Post contains images Nosedive : God, I hope so. Honda as well.... 5 way race for the championship into the closing races? That, and I became a Kubica bandwagon fan last yr.  [Edite
111 BlueElephant : This was really interesting to read. It seems that BMW might be a good team this year.... I Hope that Honda wins, and McLaren too... I'm surprised. I
112 Bill142 : I'm not surprised about BMW. They showed some good results towards the end of last season and by the sounds of thing, they have managed to capitalise
113 Bill142 : Found these on you tube. Pretty funny.
114 Kaddyuk : Who here thinks that Schumacher will be missed in F1? I think he certainly will... Especially at Ferarri!
115 Legoguy : Have Honda released their new livery yet!?!?!?! I will miss Schumi. I will miss his racing skills, and will also make the contraversy he caused at som
116 Bill142 : Nah. I would expect that just prior to Melbourne. Probably the week leading up.
117 Post contains images Sudden : Or the week after Melbourne, if they are to have the same pace as last season. Aim for the sky! Sudden
118 Cornish : As great as he was, I don't think he will be missed as much as some of the legends that left F1 in the past. Not for any negative reason, but more be
119 Nosedive : Happens in every sport. People still miss Prost and Senna! There will be new drama. Cornish, I hate the fact you said what I wanted to say.... only w
120 Post contains links Bill142 : STR have finally, in essence, confirmed their drivers. http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070213093442.shtml
121 Cornish : But given the decided lack of serious enthusiasm or public backing for them, I suspect they will be under BIG pressure to perform from the start or s
122 Nosedive : That, and Newmann-Haas probably wanted too much for SeaBass
123 Post contains links and images Cornish : Well Mark Webber is back slagging of Williams again. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6357071.stm Frankly I'm finding this a lit
124 Bill142 : Deep down every F1 driver is. Just these days the PR guy steps in and spins what they say. Journalist: "How was the car today?" Driver: "The car's cr
125 Cornish : Oh absolutely- and not deep down in many cases. But really I've heard more in the clsoe season from how bad it was at Williams than i have about how
126 Post contains links Sudden : Testing now starts to bring down the track times rapidly, and today Ferrari is more or less a second faster then Hamilton, Mclaren. http://www.formula
127 Post contains links Sudden : Some more news, Schimu to take over Jean Todt's position at the end of this year!? When Schumi was asked by the press about this earlier, he then said
128 Jamesbuk : Hmm I dont think he'd be able to run the team after only one year out as a driver, He might be good as the lead strategist, but I think itd have to w
129 Post contains links and images Jamesbuk : Guys is this the livery of the new honda??? Rgds --James--
130 Bill142 : Pics not loading. But I doubt it is (whatever it looks like). The livery is due to be launched on the 26th of this month.
131 Post contains images Cornish : I've read in Autosport that as part of Honda's "environmental" livery, it will feature a series of images from Google Earth on the car along with vari
132 BA757 : That could be very interesting - I will be interested to see how they have made that work on the car. Adam
133 Bill142 : It would be. It would be very difficult to do considering all the weight of the paint that would be used. Unless it's going to be one big vinyl stick
134 BA757 : It has to be a vinyl sticker really, painting a photo onto an F1 car would undoubtedly be very difficult, even with the advances in painting technolo
135 Post contains images Kaddyuk : You do know that they add lead weights inside the car to make them all the same weight... Therefore Honda will need less lead inside the car to compe
136 HKGKaiTak : Yes but the lead weights are placed in optimal places AND as low as possible. Vinyl stickers will cover the whole car, which includes high up bits ev
137 Post contains links Bill142 : In the news this week. Bitter Villenuve blasts Raikkonen Brawn admits stabbing Jean Todt taking over from Jean Todt is an option
138 Post contains images Sudden : LOL! He sure has a big mouth for someone who got kicked out of F1. Kubica pushing the car to much!? On the contrary, Kubica is actually racing with t
139 Cornish : Well I've actually read the full magazine article rather than the snippets and to be fair i agree with most of what Villeneuve says. Its actually not
140 Post contains links Nosedive : Dear Mr. Speed, You're slow. You're cocky. And you act as if you don't give a damn. Why are you on my team? Signed, Gerhard Berger What's odd is the a
141 Post contains links Cornish : And here is the Honda; http://www.crash.net/picture_view_single~cid~1~pid~332396.htm not sure at the moment - looks good static - but on TV at speed i
142 Jamesbuk : It looks well crap. Dont like it one bit, what happened with the google map images and whatever else was said to be on there? Rgds --James--
143 Legoguy : wow, so much for my green and white!
144 BA757 : Isn't that supposed to be a satellite photo of the UK or Japan or something? It is really hard to tell. It looks different. I certainly don't dislike
145 Post contains images Bill142 : There are still rumors floating around about the livery. The official launch happens later today. Apparently Google will be announced as a sponsor. A
146 Nosedive : God I hope its changed.
147 Bill142 : Even tho it is radical, it's still fairly bland.
148 Nosedive : Bland? It looks like someone bought the rights to the old prost livery and threw up on it.
149 Bill142 : And since when has vomit been appealing?
150 Cornish : There is a picture in the Times newspaper here this morning with the Honda at its launch and the cover on the front of the car lifted off - the liver
151 Post contains images Sudden : That must be the comment of the day! It does indeed look like sh#t, but the paint job does not make a winning team, (although, I wonder in this case)
152 Post contains links Cornish : And Speed has finally been confirmed at Toro Rosso.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/6393865.stm Apparently both Liuzzi and S
153 Post contains links Bill142 : So the the new Honda livery is high speed eco vomit Toyota run 'unique' front wing in Bahrain test. Not quite as unique as the 2004 Williams 2006 Hon
154 Post contains links HKGKaiTak : Call me a cynic but I'm not fan of Honda's spin here. So, in the meantime, it's still OK to burn lots of fuel (racing cars, rigs, motorhomes etc) and
155 Bill142 : It does say 9am GMT which is in about 8 hours. We are 11 hours ahead.
156 Cornish : And as the F1 cynics over here point out, one wonders if they'd be quite so keen to do this if a massive sponsorship deal with Sanyo hadn't fallen th
157 Bill142 : For a small fee you can get your name on the new Honda.
158 Cornish : According to the papers here Honda bosses were surprised by the negative reaction to the new launch. As some cynics pointed out, they flew Button and
159 Post contains links and images Nosedive : If that was the case, then it was a smart move for Berger. It appears that Speed tried to bank on Redbull pulling more weight for him. Thanks for the
160 Cornish : Ah well Berger has always been smart contract wise. He always was a successul businessman during his F1 racing days. He never bothered with a manager
161 Nosedive : True, as an adopted Coloradan, I'll root for AJ, but he's been having trouble making the field. Wasn't AJ part of the Red Bull F1 driver search a few
162 Post contains images Cornish : and the launch of the Honda brings me to remember some of the other slightly "unusual" colour schemes. First up the one-off 1986 Mclaren at the Portu
163 Bill142 : Been watching some videos of Bahrain testing on you tube. Noticed a couple of things. 1. Are cars running brake lights this year? I saw a car braking
164 Cornish : In Autosport this morning, one of their columnists was reminicising about the start of the new season 10 years ago. He was highlighting just how quick
165 Bill142 : That is a true fact in 1997 we had Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro West McLaren Mercedes (Now Vodafone McLaren Mercedes) Rothmans Williams Renault (Now AT&
166 Cornish : And how many of the unsuccessful manufacturers will still be around in 2017 after getting regualrly beaten by their rivals. I'll wager Toyota won't b
167 Sudden : That was one sweet looking car! Aim for the sky! Sudden
168 Post contains images Waterpolodan : I wouldn't really consider the Super Aguri team a continuation of Arrows in the same way that Spyker/Midland is a continuation of Jordan or Red Bull
169 Jamesbuk : Well guys, only 16 days till the melbourne grand prix, and hasnt it gone very quickly!!! All major testing has now finished and i believe they are pac
170 Bill142 : Super Agrui use the old Arrows infrastructure.
171 Post contains links Bill142 : So I wasn't seeing things after all http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070304101744.shtml
172 Charles79 : Personally I'd prefer to see Heidfeld win a race or two this season, but realistically speaking you might be right. I can't hardly contain my excitme
173 Sudden : Just a small side note, Montoya managed to win his first NASCAR race. Hat off for him on this one! Aim for the sky! Sudden
174 Bill142 : But he managed to take out his teammate. And he's not happy about it!
175 Post contains images Sudden : You cant wash the stripes off a Zebra. Aim for the sky! Sudden
176 Post contains links Bill142 : The real headlines this week Kimi exercises observational skills The solution to prevent Kimi from braking the car. Get him a tractor! Kimi out on the
177 BA757 : I really don't see the problem the press have with Kimi liking a good piss up. It is the way it should be. It really is a shame more drivers aren't l
178 Post contains images Sudden : I cant agree more, These drivers are working really hard, so why dont they deserve a really good hangover now and then. Look at Mclaren, Their drivers
179 Post contains images Cornish : Erm yes and no. As a fan I like my drivers to have a bit of character, and this is the only time we see it from Kimi as at the race track he speaks l
180 Sudden : That's more of the Finnish mentality. They do not speak that much. Neither did Hakkinen or Salo. That's just Finnish people. Don't forget that Kimi s
181 Post contains links Nosedive : Less confusion on the grid: Skyper to look like Arrows Honda looks to be slower than Williams Put up or shut up next week! Stealing a page from CART:
182 Post contains images Waterpolodan : Gotta say, as much as the Spyker looks like the old Orange Arrows, it looks alot better than it did in that dayglo orange, which looked like a Ferrari
183 Post contains images Bill142 : I don't either. Hakkinen spoke more then any other. Look at Markus Gronholm, he doesn't shut up. In between all the vomiting and queezing, I do some
184 BA757 : That is a really nice looking livery, then I would think that as I was always a bit partial to the Arrows Orange livery. Gronholm is an interesting c
185 Bill142 : I remember what you're talking about. Not sure what stopped it, cost could have been one, lack of interest from teams another and FIA rules as well.
186 Post contains images Sudden : Less then a week to go folks, and the teams are already in Australia. Rock 'n Roll! Testing is over and I think this season will be very interesting w
187 Cornish : Ferrari have looked strong in testing and their familiarity with working on Bridgestone rubber will help them early on in the season - Renault for on
188 Bill142 : Can't wait! Flights? booked. Tickets? bought. Hotel? No dice. Free accommodation? Priceless. We'll get a new thread going in the next few days.
189 Post contains links Nosedive : Americans are not known for patience: New Aussie Thread
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