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Do The War Supporters Also Support Bush?  
User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Ok...clearly a.net is not the place for my usual direct line of questioning, I really do want to know what the relationship is between support of GWB and support for the Iraq war.

So, possums, with as much dignity and decorum as this nest of vipers can sustain  Smile

Answer me this, do you support GW AND the war?

You can even say that you don't support either but I would like to know whether (in general) support for one indicates support for the other...or vice versa.

All set? Let's be nice to each other or the mods will pull the thread and then none of your opinions will get heard  Wink

Note to ANCFlyer......I am prepared...delete at will  Wink

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User currently offlineRichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

Jafa, I made the mistake last time of answering more than yes or no... Im not sure where the thread went or why it was deleted as I left immediately after...But what do you think? We have discussed this so many times that I believe you are just trying to flame bait this forum.

User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3707 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1546 times:
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I support the war and the president. Flame away.



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User currently offlineT773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

I support GWB and the war with 110% Unlike some ther people, or wish us failure in Iraq, for some reason I can't even begin to understand.


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User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

This thread will probably go away again as the hardliners on either side won't admit anything other than their dedicated positions and will promptly resort to flaming anyone who doesn't say that A) All things related to Bush and the war are complete failures -or- B) All things related to Bush and the war are completely great.

Those in the middle will sigh again, and wish for better days.


User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1535 times:

Quoting RichPhitzwell (Reply 1):
We have discussed this so many times that I believe you are just trying to flame bait this forum.

You might have done but i haven't, this isn't flamebait, it is a genuine inquiry as I have yet to meet an American (face to face) who supports either and I wanted to know if you can like the war but not Bush....simple question from a simple guy, try not to be so touchy, you can ask me anything you like on any subject.

Officially NZ supports neither.


User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 4):
Those in the middle will sigh again, and wish for better days.

Ah yes....the middle path...I remember those far-off days....before I was an a.netter that was  Wink


User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 4):
This thread will probably go away again as the hardliners on either side won't admit anything other than their dedicated positions

I gave my positions. I'll admit, I've supported Bush on quite a few things, yet I think he dropped the ball hella far on quite a few others. Could someone have done a better job? Most likely.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1527 times:

I support the President and the War in Iraq.

And I fully support our Troops.

Support for one or the other doesn't constitute support for both or neither. Does that make sense.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1517 times:

Someone deleted the Bush/War thread? I give up. It seems like my good posts just get tossed in the shitter.

How the hell can I answer this? I don't support the war. And I don't support Bush.

Mark


User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2059 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

Quoting Jafa39 (Thread starter):
Ok...clearly a.net is not the place for my usual direct line of questioning, I really do want to know what the relationship is between support of GWB and support for the Iraq war.

What do you exactly mean by "support of GWB?" I'm asking, because:

I SUPPORT GWB in his:

War Policy
Supreme Court Nominations
Tax Cuts
Stem Cell Research
Other things...

I DO NOT SUPPORT GWB in his:

Boarder control policy
Spending History
Other things...

I'm reading your thread as "how many people simply support Bush because of his war..." or "how many people simply support the war because they support Bush.."
I'm not sure you will find many people at all to agree to either of those statements..



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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

I support the President and I support the war.

If you have any derogatory or lame shit to say - please direct it to this:




If you want to ask me why, I'll be glad to answer.




-NWA742


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 7):
Could someone have done a better job? Most likely.

The better question to ask is "Was anyone else willing to do the job?"

As the question at hand.
Yes I support the war. Yes, overall, I support Bush. The two do not necessarily go hand in hand. One of our neighbors down the street (well, at least at my home in Greensboro) is Bush supporter, but is strongly opposed to the war in Iraq.

I support Bush on his tax cuts (and that's because I've benefited from them. Oh wait, how could I have benefited from them? They were only for the rich people and oil companies.  sarcastic  ). The economy on a national scale is very strong, regardless of what others what some want to say. The success of my family's investments is a reflection of that.


Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 10):
I DO NOT SUPPORT GWB in his:

Boarder control policy
Spending History
Other things...

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Spending would get under control if Congress would ever pass the Balanced-Budget Amendment.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 12):
Spending would get under control if Congress would ever pass the Balanced-Budget Amendment.

Yeah, that'll happend right after they pass congressional term limits and salary caps.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

Keep this on track ladies and gents or I'll can this one as well. Answer Jfa's questions please - without the flame fest. If it turns into another flame fest with personal attacks and a lot of  redflag  this thread'll disappear quicker than a glass of scotch after a long week at work.

User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 10):
I SUPPORT GWB in his:

War Policy
Supreme Court Nominations
Tax Cuts
Stem Cell Research
Other things...

I DO NOT SUPPORT GWB in his:

Boarder control policy
Spending History
Other things...

I'm reading your thread as "how many people simply support Bush because of his war..." or "how many people simply support the war because they support Bush.."
I'm not sure you will find many people at all to agree to either of those statements..



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 12):
is Bush supporter, but is strongly opposed to the war in Iraq.

Now we're getting somewhere! but the simple Q is....can you love one and not the other, I know some Poms who support the war but don't want Blair to get the Kudos if there is a positive result.

Some good info coming through.


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

Even though a Canadian opinion is probably useless...

I support Bush and the War in Iraq.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1448 times:

Quoting Jafa39 (Thread starter):
Answer me this, do you support GW AND the war?



Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 15):
the simple Q is....can you love one and not the other,

Well I see two questions in there, but it's probably because it's late.

I do not support the majority of the positions of this current administration. I do not support the changing targets in the war. I will always support brave men and women who volunteer to put their lives on the line in service to their country. The current president's poll numbers are the lowest since Pres. Nixon resigned from office. That says to me that I'm pretty much in step with the majority of my fellow countrymen.

That is all.



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User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

I support President George W Bush

I support the "War In Iraq" (The troops have my prayers and full support)

I do not understand "War On Terror" because it is to broad of a term that does not have an end.



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
this thread'll disappear quicker than a glass of scotch after a long week at work.

Now that's a crime in itself..

Now to the question at hand; Do I support the war in Irag,NO! (please note I do have family in Iraq as I type so I willing to give the military everything they want to clean up the mess and get our men and women home safe)
The other war that seems to be forgotten: YES

Do I support GWB. No.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

I support the intent of the war in Iraq but not how it's been carried out. I think he ignored Stormin Norman's advise after GW I where he said that the difference between Desert Storm and Vietnam is that we fought it Desert Storm with an eye on protecting coalition lives and not everyone else's. War is a violent act and has to be fought violently. Sometimes more violence in the short term results in less total violence in the long-run. Big mistakes have been made, but they can't be undone. We can only look at decision that can be made from now going forward.

I completely support the troops because it isn't their call. They just carry out the order given to them by the chain of command.

On somethings I support the President (tax cuts post 9/11, using all means possible to hunt terrorist) and on other I do not (in ability to veto runaway spending from the GOP controlled Congress and his administration's position on Padilla).

I think he's in a situation that even he doesn't believe he can get out of. IMO he needs to admit he's made mistakes and go to the world community and ask for help in fixing it. It will be a bruise to the ego but it's the only way this situation is going to be resolved.


User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 20):
I think he ignored Stormin Norman's advise after GW I where he said that the difference between Desert Storm and Vietnam is that we fought it Desert Storm with an eye on protecting coalition lives and not everyone else's

I agree, the job should have been finished there and then.


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 21):
I agree, the job should have been finished there and then.

Do you remember the cries from the left after the highway of death? How much of this could have been avoided if the first war lasted a couple more days?


User currently offlineSpeedbird747BA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

Yes, I support Bush on some issues, and I totally support the war. Note, there is a difference, IMO, between me supporting the war, and thinking that the war could have been done better, as I think both.


Cheers,
Kyle


User currently offlineT773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1375 times:

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 16):
Even though a Canadian opinion is probably useless...

Only if you don't agree with the war!



"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man."
25 PanAmOldDC8 : Great post Pope, couldn't agree with you more. I supported your President when he made the call, however it ha been totally screwed up by incompetent
26 AirCop : I haven't forgotten, lost a couple of classmates over there (thats one reason I joined the Air Force) . Domino theory, didn't happen did it, you're r
27 IFEMaster : I support the war. I also support the President on most but not all of his policies. And, let's face it, like him or not, when he talks he sounds like
28 Searpqx : I voted for Bush in 2000, and came to regret that decision. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on Iraq and came to realize I was wrong
29 Falcon84 : Sorry. I for one won't give you the satisfaction. I can only say I'm on the other end of the answers to both. I think there's very few Americans who
30 Pope : Though I'm glad we agree on principle, Bush needs to accept the responsibility himself. The same way we hold captains of ships responsible for everyt
31 Tom12 : I'm ot an American, but i support the War in Iraq and i support G W Bush. Going to Iraq was the right thing to do, just not for the right reasons at t
32 NWA742 : I most certainly understand you. I agree with Bush's goals in the War on Terrorism and Iraq - but I disagree, in many ways, how it has been managed b
33 DrDeke : I think that part of the reason this question receives such vitriolic responses is that it is extremely vague. For example, when asked "Do you suppor
34 Jafa39 : Please bear in mind that this thread is a result of a previous thread that got pulled, it has been posted with advice from the mods, the direct line
35 Alaskaqantas : I do not support our president or the war. that is not to say that I don't want the soldiers to come back safley, I know many people in Iraq right now
36 PanAmOldDC8 : You know I was thinking, you guys have not had an attack since 9/11, wonder why. Do you suppose that a lot of the terrorists are tied up in Iraq, jus
37 Falcon84 : Not all the terrorists are in Iraq. Far from it. And I don't know what that has got to do with what you quoted me on in any event.
38 AGM100 : President Bush has the only solution ... fight and win it. The admin may have made many mistakes , but I do not believe they did them to make the US l
39 DrDeke : Err, yes, that was rather my point. I know you didn't ask if people support the soldiers serving in Iraq; my point was that a lot of people around he
40 102IAHexpress : Iraq had lost its rights to sovereignty under international law. It is said that if a state meets any one of the following four conditions, that state
41 Jafa39 : Good point, it does get a bit confusing here sometimes...
42 FlyDeltaJets87 : Okay. Who is included in this list of LOADS of people? And once you answer that question, you can answer how they would have carried out this mission
43 Post contains images Jafa39 : I know how you feel...everytime The Hormones brings home another drippy boyf!
44 Post contains images Turbo7x7 : One big national tyrant has been replaced with hundreds (perhaps thousands?) of smaller local ones. Nope, don't support the war, at least not the curr
45 WellHung : I support the Office of the Presidency, but I don't support the bumbling clown and cronies currently occupying it or the unmitigated disaster of a war
46 T773ER : But yet your party resorts to cheap shots at the president on a daily basis.
47 Post contains links Aaron747 : The Democrats aren't the only party making such comments. REP. ROHRABACHER: Today is a day of infamy and disgrace. The policies set down by this presi
48 T773ER : I'd stay away from the clinton news network if I were you. Watch Sean Hannity, and you just might become hannitized. Remember, just because it's not
49 Aaron747 : So because it was on a network without a conservative bias it wasn't said? Mr. Rohrabacher is a staunch conservative and he was speaking on Lou Dobbs
50 Itsjustme : Care to define "cheap shots"? I currently do not have a "party" yet I am very comfortable in saying that everything the Democratic Party has thrown a
51 Nitrohelper : The war was to remove Soodamned & his Boys , we won the war! Now for what has happened since I am against the Bush group. We should have kicked Turkey
52 Turbo7x7 : WTF? I carefully watch BOTH channels, Clinton News Network and Fox Noise Channel. I'd say Faux News skews FAR more to the right than CNN to the left.
53 Texan : I support the President insofar as he is the President of the United States and I support the country. I vehemently disagree with many of his opinion
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