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Sydney No#1 Again!  
User currently offlineJeepBoy From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 260 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1548 times:

Sydney tops world cities in recognition
Thursday Jan 25 00:02 AEDT
A survey ranking Sydney at the top of the world's cities when it comes to brand recognition is a boost to Australian exporters, Austrade says.

The survey by Anholt GMI City Brands Index, based in Seattle, Washington, ranked Sydney as the best city brand in the world, and Melbourne ranked eighth.

Sydney knocked last year's winner, London, off its perch.

The index is said to demonstrate how people respond to city brands, in exactly the same way as when they are shopping for cars or clothing brands.

The index surveyed 17,502 people worldwide about how they judged 30 cities' culture, people, appeal as a place to visit, work and live, and international status.

Austrade's chief economist Tim Harcourt said the survey was a boost for Australian exporters who could utilise the growing recognition with global consumers.

"The new polls suggest it's not just Australia Day here but all over the world with Australia as a brand in global business getting stronger every day," Mr Harcourt said in a statement.

"Australia's sound economy is widely admired and Australia is regarded as a place that works - a good place to travel to and do business with."
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*yay*
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User currently offlineJeepBoy From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

The listing isn't just about brand recognition:

The Results:

The Presence
Familiarity/perceived standing
Sydney -- 11th out of 60
Melbourne -- 36th out of 60

The Place
Beauty/climate
Sydney -- 1st out of 60
Melbourne -- 6th out of 60

The Potential
Economic/educational opportunities
Sydney -- 3rd out of 60
Melbourne -- 10th out of 60

The Pulse
Urban lifestyle
Sydney -- 5th out of 60
Melbourne -- 16th out of 60

The People
Acceptance in the community
Sydney -- 1st out of 60
Melbourne -- 3rd out of 60

The Pre-requisites
Accommodation/public amenities such as schools, hospitals, transport
Sydney -- 1st out of 60
Melbourne -- 2nd out of 60



*yay*
User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1537 times:

Where did Adelaide and Hobart come?

 rotfl 


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 2):
Where did Adelaide and Hobart come?

Just above Wellington, Auckland and Christchurch.  Wink



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineJeepBoy From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

1 Sydney
2 London
3 Paris
4 Rome
5 New York
6 Washington DC
7 San Fransisco
8 Melbourne
9 Barcelona
10 Geneva
11 Amsterdam
12 Madrid
13 Montreal
14 Toronto
15 Los Angeles
16 Vancouver
17 Berlin
18 Brussels
19 Milan
20 Copenhagen

*yay for Sydney*

jb



*yay*
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1523 times:

It can't possibly be only conducted amongst those who've been to these places. Not with Brussels in the top 20.  grumpy 


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineJeepBoy From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1519 times:

Just a couple of pics I took recently. Testing the new camera.


http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h189/jeep_buggy/PICT0079Large.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h189/jeep_buggy/PICT0070Large.jpg

*yay* for Sydney.

jb



*yay*
User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1757 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1515 times:
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Is survey fixed?

Quoting JeepBoy (Reply 1):
The Place
Beauty/climate
Sydney -- 1st out of 60
Melbourne -- 6th out of 60

Number one with drought,over populated Urban city without much water.....
Plenty of Pollution and rubbish around the area,polluted waterways....

The Potential
Economic/educational opportunities
Sydney -- 3rd out of 60
Melbourne -- 10th out of 60
WTF!

The Pulse
Urban lifestyle
Sydney -- 5th out of 60
Melbourne -- 16th out of 60
Lifestyle isnt that good,All overworked stressed unhappy people!


The People
Acceptance in the community
Sydney -- 1st out of 60
Melbourne -- 3rd out of 60
Sydney siders dont accept people,race riots,brawls,hatred,


The Pre-requisites
Accommodation/public amenities such as schools, hospitals, transport
Sydney -- 1st out of 60
Melbourne -- 2nd out of 60

Overcrowded Hospitals with good chance of still coming out worse off than what you went in.
Schools are way overcrowded in Sydney area and plenty of racial violence/tension there.

Transport,Public transport is f*cked,Old Ferries/jetcats always slow,breaking down or having accidents,Trains are usually slow unless at night,Buses are always slow cause of peakhour traffic and shit roads.

Roads are shithouse,motorways are 20years behind where they should be today,Tunnels are deathtraps and we fork out the money for failed projects.


User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
over populated Urban city

true. There is plenty of space elsewhere but everyone comes to Sydney

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Plenty of Pollution and rubbish around the area,polluted waterways....

maybe plenty but compare it to the cities surveyed

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Overcrowded Hospitals with good chance of still coming out worse off than what you went in.

caused by overpopulation and ageing population

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Trains are usually slow unless at night

I can speak for this and it usually depends on the type of service you catch, but its quite annoying as they do neglect some lines


User currently offlineKunoichi From Denmark, joined Jan 2007, 796 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

Quoting JeepBoy (Reply 4):
20 Copenhagen

 grumpy   snooty 

Quoting JeepBoy (Reply 4):
1 Sydney

... and it isn't even the country's capital!  sly   duck 



"Do you speak fluent Canadian?"
User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1757 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1499 times:
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Quoting VHVXB (Reply 8):
I can speak for this and it usually depends on the type of service you catch, but its quite annoying as they do neglect some lines

Best place to get flu/sick is on Sydney trains,Only good time to catch them is at beginning of the run,usually 5 stations along and its already packed,dont service all the lines as you said.

Quoting Kunoichi (Reply 9):
... and it isn't even the country's capital!

Canberra is as much part of New Zealand as Tasmania is.....
 crazy   eyepopping 


User currently offlineKunoichi From Denmark, joined Jan 2007, 796 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 10):
Canberra is as much part of New Zealand as Tasmania is.....

Hey, I'll be the first foreigner to say, loud and proudly- Canberra is AWESOME!  cloudnine 

Unfortunately, I come from a country where at least 60% of the population (if not more) really do believe that Sydney is the capital... including my teachers during highschool...  cry 



"Do you speak fluent Canadian?"
User currently offlineJeepBoy From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 260 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):



Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Is survey fixed?

Quoting JeepBoy (Reply 1):
The Place
Beauty/climate
Sydney -- 1st out of 60
Melbourne -- 6th out of 60

Number one with drought,over populated Urban city without much water.....
Plenty of Pollution and rubbish around the area,polluted waterways....

The Potential
Economic/educational opportunities
Sydney -- 3rd out of 60
Melbourne -- 10th out of 60
WTF!

The Pulse
Urban lifestyle
Sydney -- 5th out of 60
Melbourne -- 16th out of 60
Lifestyle isnt that good,All overworked stressed unhappy people!


The People
Acceptance in the community
Sydney -- 1st out of 60
Melbourne -- 3rd out of 60
Sydney siders dont accept people,race riots,brawls,hatred,


The Pre-requisites
Accommodation/public amenities such as schools, hospitals, transport
Sydney -- 1st out of 60
Melbourne -- 2nd out of 60

Overcrowded Hospitals with good chance of still coming out worse off than what you went in.
Schools are way overcrowded in Sydney area and plenty of racial violence/tension there.

Transport,Public transport is f*cked,Old Ferries/jetcats always slow,breaking down or having accidents,Trains are usually slow unless at night,Buses are always slow cause of peakhour traffic and shit roads.

Roads are shithouse,motorways are 20years behind where they should be today,Tunnels are deathtraps and we fork out the money for failed projects.

Are you a melbournian? Have you travelled overseas and seen what other major cities of the world are like? Have you seen the people in other major world cities complain and bitch about?

We are lucky in Sydney town despite the problems that we face everyday now, no more or no less than any other major urban centre in the world.

js



*yay*
User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 10):
,Only good time to catch them is at beginning of the run,usually 5 stations along and its already packed

yes when only a single line is serviced


User currently offlineGman94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

I don't want to start an argument as I known you guys pick on each other a lot regarding your respective cities but when I was Down Under recently I preferred Melbourne to Sydney.


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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 day ago) and read 1447 times:

Not a single city in Asia on that list. What a worthless and pointless survey.


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User currently offlineVC10BOAC From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 20 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 15):
Not a single city in Asia on that list. What a worthless and pointless survey

I agree. I don't see Baghdad, Kabul or Pyongyang on the list. Worthless!
Joking aside, I was wondering why Tokyo, Hong Kong or Singapore did not make the list.


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 19 hours ago) and read 1395 times:

Quoting JeepBoy (Reply 4):
10 Geneva

wow happy to see a city the size of Geneva be in the Top ten, and ahead of Zürich !

however I don't know how Rome can come 4th !



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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 17 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Aww, Aussie18... I just have to reply...

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Number one with drought,over populated Urban city without much water.....
Plenty of Pollution and rubbish around the area,polluted waterways....

Not really. They're reopening some old lake out near Parramatta somewhere because it's now cleaner than it has been in 50 years. Cooks River also has fish in it again which couldn't be said 20 years ago.

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Lifestyle isnt that good,All overworked stressed unhappy people!

I'm from there and never thought people were overworked, stressed or unhappy - are you from Launceston by any chance?

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Overcrowded Hospitals with good chance of still coming out worse off than what you went in.

Australian hospitals are some of the best in the world. Anyway, get private health insurance, it's only $50 a month.

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Schools are way overcrowded in Sydney area and plenty of racial violence/tension there.

No they're not overcrowded at all... sure there's racial violence and tension, just as there were bullies in the "all white" Australian schools of the 1950s and 1960s. Only now because there are many races, it's put down to racism when it's just teenagers being teenagers.

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Transport,Public transport is f*cked,Old Ferries/jetcats always slow,breaking down or having accidents,Trains are usually slow unless at night,Buses are always slow cause of peakhour traffic and shit roads.

Trains aren't slow, I used to get the trains back and forth to work every day and there were major delays maybe twice a year. Peak hour traffic (southside over the bridge and back) is not that bad either if you're smart with your driving.

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 7):
Roads are shithouse,motorways are 20years behind where they should be today,Tunnels are deathtraps and we fork out the money for failed projects.

Yes, I see you're jaded.

Come to Dublin where I live - you'll see how different things are. They don't have EFTPOS (I know!), so you need cash to shop all the time. They don't have enough ATMs so there are long lines. The hospitals are deplorable. It costs $100 a throw to see a doctor - to SEE one! Foreigners here travel back to their own country to see a dentist. The traffic is gridlocked from 7am to 9pm daily due to poor road planning. Some tram lines don't meet up with the main train stations. Some train lines aren't connected to others. The airport is a complete joke with the only transport being by road.

I could go on... but things are good in Australia, believe me... (and before the Irish lynch me, I love Ireland despite the issues!).



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1757 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 16 hours ago) and read 1352 times:
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Quoting JeepBoy (Reply 12):
Are you a melbournian? Have you travelled overseas and seen what other major cities of the world are like? Have you seen the people in other major world cities complain and bitch about?

No i am from Sydney,i have seen some of the other countries and know there would be better cities out their than Sydney

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 18):
Not really. They're reopening some old lake out near Parramatta somewhere because it's now cleaner than it has been in 50 years. Cooks River also has fish in it again which couldn't be said 20 years ago.

Contaminated Fish in cooks river,Parramatta River is much better off but compared to places in Africa and Middle East sure there better.

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 18):
No they're not overcrowded at all... sure there's racial violence and tension, just as there were bullies in the "all white" Australian schools of the 1950s and 1960s. Only now because there are many races, it's put down to racism when it's just teenagers being teenagers.

Schools are overcrowded,Government keeps saying some schools are overcrowded in Sydney Area and time to build new ones,Also Media always bitching about finding a new school where its overcrowded......Sure being in Ireland you wouldnt be aware of this!

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 18):
Trains aren't slow, I used to get the trains back and forth to work every day and there were major delays maybe twice a year. Peak hour traffic (southside over the bridge and back) is not that bad either if you're smart with your driving.

Trains are slow,overcrowded,Using old trains which still shouldnt be in service cause the new ones their building are delayed because of safety issues etc.....

Im familiar with the train system aswell as i have had to catch them many times to work and the services are pathetic,Regular things i experienced were urgent track works which disrupted peak timetable,overhead cable failures,trains breaking down due to poor maintance and weather.....Lets not bring up the story of the Marathon runner who raced a city bound service and actuallt beat it.
Most people refer to Cityrail as Snailrail or Shittyrail.


User currently offlineVH-KCT* From Australia, joined May 2001, 479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 15 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

Quoting JeepBoy (Reply 12):
Are you a melbournian?

That'd be right    Obviously one thing they didn't include in their survey was arrogance - if they did, Sydney would be down there with the worst of them.

For a city where everybody seems to think that they are the only example of real Australians, it's pleasing for the rest of us to see that they are ever more disparate to the rest of the country. Full scale race riots, ethnic ghettos, gang violence, dodgy police, extreme talkback radio to fuel it all... only in Sydney.

Edit: Just realised it's Australia Day! And what better way to celebrate than a bit of a whinge and some Sydney-Melbourne abuse  Smile

[Edited 2007-01-26 00:06:47]


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User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 1331 times:

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 15):
Not a single city in Asia on that list. What a worthless and pointless survey.

Agree

There are about 10 of these surveys that come out every year. Some are more credible than others but in general most are BS, this one included.

Although some of the "placegetters" on this list I do agree with, (including the top 3), there is no way that HK, Tokyo, and a few others are not in the top 10 cities in the world.

I would say the voters are from a group of not very well travelled people


User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 13 hours ago) and read 1329 times:

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 19):
weather.....

an uncontrolable force which can't be managed

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 19):
egular things i experienced were urgent track works which disrupted peak timetable,overhead cable failures,trains breaking down due to poor maintance

I guess you live in the inner west??


User currently offlineORDRyan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 9 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

Quoting JeepBoy (Reply 6):
Just a couple of pics I took recently. Testing the new camera.

Beautiful pictures, JeepBoy! I've never been to SYD  Sad

one day, though!  Big grin



Whoever said winning is not everything never fought cancer.
User currently offlineMelpax From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 1648 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 9 hours ago) and read 1292 times:

Quoting VH-KCT* (Reply 20):
Edit: Just realised it's Australia Day! And what better way to celebrate than a bit of a whinge and some Sydney-Melbourne abuse

Our main role as Melburnians is to put Sydneysiders down a peg or two  Smile



Essendon - Whatever it takes......
25 Post contains images QFA380 : Don't forget the buses, some of which have more than a million kilometers on them. How Sydney can rank number 1 though is beyond me.
26 JeepBoy : Sydney ranks number one because it is an iconic city. The world knows Sydney and people want to come and see the place and live here. ! As for Melbou
27 VHVXB : adding fuel to the fire. For me as long as I live in Australia whether it be in Melbourne, Sydney, Darwin, Broome or Perth I will still be happy. Not
28 Adam T. : Sydney is just like any big city.......it has problems with overcrowding, crime, etc. However, Sydney I have to say is one of the most beautiful citie
29 Post contains images Comorin : Where the Bloody Hell is Sydney?
30 Aussie18 : I'd never leave Sydney for another state but as for ranking it Number 1 in those things i certainly wouldnt agree based on what ive seen...... We cant
31 VHVXB : True not unless a MAJOR upgrade occurs throughout the whole state.
32 Post contains images MilesDependent : Sydney has it's issues, but no way I would want to live anywhere else permanently. Having said that, I have often considered moving to London or New Y
33 NAV20 : Couldn't agree more - and I can still say that despite having visited almost all the cities covered by the survey, and a lot more besides (and lived
34 JeepBoy : Do you live in the poor part of Sydney? Name the cities? Probo Koala.. google it. Oh can you drink the tap water in these palces? Slow? Name me any o
35 Post contains links and images JeepBoy :
36 Post contains links and images JeepBoy : Melbourne doesn't look like this..
37 JeepBoy : We never claim to be anything more than *Sydneysiders* we might not give a shit about the rest of Australia, but the rest of Australia is in our wake
38 Aussie18 : How about we just deport you....sounds like a better idea! Million dollar view blocked by palm trees..... Who really gives a stuff what buses you get
39 JeepBoy : Oh so obviously you live in the McMansion suburbs.. Western suburbs, poor areas, westyfield far flung nasty towns.. Every major city in the world has
40 Post contains links and images JeepBoy : I just can't help myself. And one that I took myself..
41 VH-KCT* : Well nowhere in Australia has there been, nor would there be, racial brawls on such a massive scale like you managed. Nowhere else in Australia is th
42 Aussie18 : All that statement is quite true but NSW police force isnt corrupt....okay always few bad cops out there,But media blows it all out to make it seem a
43 JeepBoy : Melbourne had race riots at this years tennis open... As for talkback radio, only the servants from the western suburbs listen to that rubbish. And w
44 Aussie18 : Haha you keep dribbling more crap,Not being a AM fan myself unless listening to ABC for Live cricket as prefer FM stations but their are plenty of Sy
45 VHVXB : M-set faults have been rectified a long time ago. Work is being carried out throughout the entire suburban network which will allow all these trains
46 Post contains images JeepBoy : *yay* sydney
47 Post contains images JeepBoy :
48 QFA380 : You really don't have to post pictures of Sydney. It's a glamorous city and all but if people want to look at pictures of Sydney they can find them v
49 KiwiinOz : Yeah. We also don't have to post any pics of aircraft on this site as people should go and find them themselves. What have you got against pics of Sy
50 VH-KCT* : Err not quite - 50 Australians throw a few punches at each other. Hardly what Sydney managed - a few thousand-strong mob actively seeking out any mem
51 KiwiinOz : Look I don't want to appear rude to those in my old stomping ground but the whole Sydney vs Melbourne thing gets really tiring. It's a bit like watchi
52 Post contains images Aussie18 : No rules against posting pics of Sydney but all Jeepboy is posting some pretty average pics of Sydney,night shots of Harbour bridge,Opera house are g
53 QFA380 : And airliners.net has how many pictures of aircraft compared to pictures of Sydney? 1.18million compared to less than 100. Not only that, if he plans
54 Post contains links and images JeepBoy : Ever heard of that saying *taking the piss* (out of someone). Sheesh the Sydney v's Melbourne thing is a non event. People in Sydney worry about thei
55 Post contains images JeepBoy : Just some non harbour shots.. lol jb
56 Post contains links and images JeepBoy : But more yay.. Escape from Melbourne.. jb
57 Post contains images Kunoichi : I really don't get the Sydney vs. Melbourne thing... and it's people like JeepBoy who keeps it alive... And jeepboy- it seems like you DO care as you
58 Post contains links and images JeepBoy : *Sydney yay*
59 Post contains images ClassicLover : It's mostly in jest you know... That's because Canberra is a hole. Funny, I read the Sydney Morning Herald online every single day and I am not aware
60 JeepBoy : And thats why our Prime Minister prefers to have his residence in Sydney, I think the lodge (in Canbraaaa) must be full of cob webs these days. I rea
61 Aussie18 : Clowns like you with these statements give Sydney a bad name and reason why its turning into a shit city is because of self centred people like yours
62 V Jet : Does MX5 boy now own a jeep ?
63 Post contains images Kunoichi : Don't get me wrong, the occasional JOKE is funny... but whatever JeepBoy has said so far has been idiotic and could be considered hurtful to some, an
64 VH-KCT* : I thought that you didn't care, mate! Now I may be only a 'second rate cousin' of yours, but it seems pretty clear that the truth of the matter is th
65 Post contains images Bill142 : Come and live here, you'll quickly discover it's not the paradise it's made out to be.
66 JeepBoy : No it's the reverse these days. I am now MX5boy again.. LOL jb
67 Post contains images JeepBoy : *yay sydney* jb
68 Post contains links and images JeepBoy : *yay again*
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